Ready or Not - Late 80s: The Samara Weaving Horror-Comedy Classic Without a Cult

What if "Ready or Not" was recast in the Late 80s?

On this 'Quantum Dreamcast' mini-sode, we're pulling back the curtain to recast this new cult classic, and uncover the humor and fright in this spine-chilling yet amusing film. Join us as we dissect the film's budget, its box office success, and the intriguing plot that unfolds on Grace's(Samara Weaving) wedding night. We'll also reflect on why, despite its unique combination of genres, this film hasn't received the same mainstream recognition as other horror flicks.

Step into our cinematic time machine as we delve into the '80s era casting choices and performances of the original  film. It's a wild ride, considering the potential impact of big names. Don't miss this thrilling discussion of a film that Nick and Cass really think more people should see. Buckle up for a fun-filled, frightful journey into Ready or Not!

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Ash Hurry (@filmexplorationah)
Cass Elliott (@take5cass)

Voice of the Time Machine:
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Editing by:
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"Charmer" - Coat
"Revival" - Daniele Musto
"Pukka" - Bellodrone
"Kings and Queens" - Wicked Cinema
"Kiss the Cat" - Al Town
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Transcript

Cass: 0:27

Welcome to Quantum Dreamcast, our mini episode series, where we tackle some lesser known films that we love, and the rules are more like guidelines. I'm your host. Cast with me is Nick.

Nick: 0:37

Hey, what up?

Cass: 0:40

And if you're new to the show, we are a time traveling film podcast, taking your favorite films and moving them forwards and backwards in time and giving them a brand new cast.

Nick: 0:49

That's right.

Cass: 0:49

Like we said on this, like we said on this mini. So we're taking the horror comedy cult hit from 2019, ready or not and moving it to the late 80s, where Nick and I will try will each try to put together our own cast from that era.

Nick: 1:06

Yeah, it's a little. We're a little more flexible here. You know, like we're not specific year, you know it gives us some more more room for fun, if you will.

Cass: 1:15

Yeah, and if you like what you hear and want to listen to more, you can follow us on all socials for updates and episode drops. Just look us up @quantumdreamcast and you should be able to find us. You should be, I'm pretty sure we're all just the.

Nick: 1:28

Twitter's, the Instagram's, even on your mom's favorite Facebook and on your on the TikToks. We're talking, we're ticking, we're making videos.

Cass: 1:38

We're ticking, we're tok-ing.

Nick: 1:39

Yeah, we're tok-ing, so tell me about this movie we're jumping into Cass.

Cass: 1:49

Yeah. So before we get started, let's just I'll give a rundown of this film. So it was released in 2019, Ready or Not stars Samara Weaving, Adam Brody and Andy McDowell from amongst others, and written by Guy Busick and R Christopher Murphy, directed by Matt Bedalini Bedalini, I think and Tyler Gillette. Yeah yeah, a little bit. And Tyler Gillette, and the movie is about a bride's wedding night taking a sinister turn when her eccentric new in-laws force her to take part in a terrifying and lethal game of hide and seek.

Cass: 2:30

It's the first movie that makes hide and seek really scary.

Nick: 2:34

True. I mean, I don't know if it's the first, I can't claim that for sure, but it definitely sets the tone right from the beginning, like from the trailer.

Cass: 2:41

You're like, it's just like a very creepy yeah.

Nick: 2:43

Yeah.

Cass: 2:44

It's not what you expect.

Nick: 2:46

No, not at all, Like I think that's the wedding night.

Nick: 2:48

No, and that's the fun of the movie, and you kind of sit there and go like how does this make sense? But they kind of lay it out really well and I feel like they do a good job, like setting the scene, kind of building the world around you. You know, it's about a family that has made all their money off these board games and they have to do this ritual, basically because they kind of made this deal with the devil. So it all generally lays out pretty well, but is there any budget info you got for us?

Cass: 3:14

Yeah, so the budget was $6 million, okay. And the box office actually did $57.6 million.

Nick: 3:21

So it was a hit, so it made money.

Cass: 3:23

Yeah, so it's pretty. Yeah, it became a big, I feel like cult classic at that time and even now are watching it.

Nick: 3:32

Yeah, I think it for $6 million, like that's. When I saw that I was really surprised by it because I was just like this movie looks more like a $50 million movie, kind of like. It looked like it had a budget and like I guess the cast went on, I guess, to do better things and it has some like callbacks, like Andy McDowell who was a bigger deal like in the 90s and such, but I was surprised at that number. But yeah, how did the yeah. Tell us about a useless critic. Stats cast.

Cass: 3:59

So rotten tomatoes Tomato Meter gives it 89% and the audience gives it 78%, which I feel like the audience should have would have been higher.

Nick: 4:10

You think they would have enjoyed it more?

Cass: 4:12

Yeah, IMDB gives it 6.9 out of 10.

Nick: 4:17

Nice.

Cass: 4:22

Metacritic gives it 64 out of 100.

Nick: 4:25

That is nice, but that's usually the case with Metacritic.

Cass: 4:29

Yeah, a little bit, and Letterboxed gives it a 3.5 out of 5.

Nick: 4:33

Okay, all right, I mean that's fair. I think that's a fair assessment. I think you know for some of us that really enjoyed it. You'd argue it should be higher and it is weird that the audience score was a little lower than like the critics scores, especially like on rotten tomatoes. But we all know that that's may not be the most trustworthy place anymore to go look for your reviews and stuff, but I think it's because it is like it's low key, doing a good job with like it's callbacks and like it's world building, and it's really. It's a horror comedy, I would say, and it's a thriller, but it has a lot of fun with it in a way that isn't so much like in your face kind of comedy. It's just it's just having a lot of fun with like the premise and I think that's what's so endearing about it.

Cass: 5:15

Yeah, it's very I don't want to say it's subtle, but it is like at times where it does have a nice balance for horror and comedy, because it's not like with having actors like Adam Burdy in it. You do expect it to be kind of a little bit more comedic, but he does like even a great job with his character.

Nick: 5:33

Yeah.

Cass: 5:34

But no, I definitely expected the audience to give it a higher score than what they did. But 78 still good.

Nick: 5:40

Still pretty good.

Cass: 5:43

Better than a 3.5.

Nick: 5:44

That's true. Yeah, no, I remember when I watched this the first time in 2019, me and Taryn, our guy in the chair, friend of the podcast he and I went to watch it when we were doing a lot of drybacks and watching movies and I remember really enjoying it. But even rewatching it the last week before we did this episode, I think I enjoyed it more. Like I kind of forgot, like, how much fun it was and how like well-paced and put together it actually was.

Nick: 6:09

And even like on character levels, because it's got a lot of twists and turns that aren't necessarily super predictable, like and some that kind of come out the switch, the double turn of the brothers, where Adam Burdy's character he becomes the good guy and then is it Alex, yeah, alex becomes the bad guy. It's a wrestling term we like to use called the double turn is when the good guy and the bad guy change places and become their respective counterparts. But yeah, that was a fun one and they laid the good, they laid good seeds for Adam Burdy's character, daniel, to slowly be the character that we sympathize and we kind of get to enjoy more. You know, plus, I mean, you're probably not too mad about him turning out to be a good guy right.

Cass: 6:52

I mean I was okay with him being a bad guy too.

Nick: 6:54

That's yeah, yes, yes. Was he your main motivation? Was he your main motivation for watching this movie when it came out?

Cass: 7:00

Actually, no, I think I didn't know that he was in it the first time I watched it Because I think I just wanted to. I liked the premise of it. I mean, we know me, I love my horror and I love comedy. So I have such the soft spot for horror comedy anyway, because going in I don't take it seriously. I'm not going in with like just this, like film viewer, like eyes, I'm just, I'm going in as okay. No, I'm just going to enjoy this movie.

Cass: 7:26

So yeah when I watched it, because I don't I don't remember like how long it was after like the movie had came out to like pay-per-view DVD, but I just remember at that time I enjoyed it, but who I watched it with, which was my parents. They did not like it. They liked it up until the end, because of like twist.

Nick: 7:47

Yes, well, okay, listen we're on we're, we're, we're spoiler, we're not spoiler free here, Like if you you're clicking on this because you have watched the movie probably and at this point, if you haven't, I've given you enough leading time that you can turn it off. But when they all explode at the end, you know that's probably where your parents that's when they turned it off and they said this is too much, I can't take it.

Cass: 8:06

They were like that's stupid and just like I don't accept this. No, but they just no in their mind. They thought it would just be better for it to be like oh ha ha, like they like the curse isn't real, but I think that's kind of what makes the movie really unique is like oh no, the curse is real. And then they actually like explode in the way that they did.

Nick: 8:24

Yeah, I can, I can see where they're coming from. If it had been more of a traditional horror, like because then it comments on this whole idea and which it plays with throughout the movie, of like superstitions and whether to believe it or not and stuff, and how far are you willing to go because of something that's kind of been ingrained in you and you've been groomed growing up to believe, like if we don't do this, our family's going to die, and for like them to face a truth that would hit that hard of like oh no, we've killed all these people over the years for no good reason, but obviously, like it's an over the top moment and I think that what is what lends it to the comedy is just that they are literally all exploding and at that point you're like it's. I think they've done a good enough job writing that line, like I said, of horror and comedy, where you're you accepted and like, oh, that's really funny. Yeah, they, and they get their comeuppance. Basically.

Cass: 9:12

Well I have to ask do you think Alex would have survived had Grace not take off her ring and say I want a divorce?

Nick: 9:21

So here's I was thinking about this at the end of the rewatch last week and my thought was, like, even if she hadn't taken off the ring, I think what you could have, even though it hadn't been spoken in dialogue, what you could have picked up from it was, while they had been married, they had not consummated their marriage. Because that's a thing in like a lot of horror movies is like you don't have sex, you don't do drugs, you don't do all that. So like and I think that might have been a reason they had the scene where the wedding's over and they're in the room and she wants to, like you know, consummate and the, the, the creepy ants in the room to stop them. Basically Because it does it keep on. At least from the viewer standpoint, it keeps her on this peer level. That's consistent with other slasher and horror survival type movies. Like it's. It's again. We're living in a 2023 world where, like, we're not going to slut shame anyone or just shame anyone for having sex on a premarital level anyway, but that's it's just.

Nick: 10:12

I think it is just like a slight callback to that mentality of like the 80 slashers and stuff, but in the terms of the ruling of how, like I guess the deal with the guy at works is, I think it, I think it again, it like gives her that leeway, that gray area where she's like well, I'm technically not fully his wife, you know like, so I think it just plays off that maybe. What do you think Like? Do you think that the Reading Ring needed to be thrown off real quick?

Cass: 10:39

Well, not even just that, it was just the. I remember, like when they all, like everyone but Alex had died, and like he was still there for a minute and he was, like you know, we could still like, you know, like we don't have to worry about that.

Nick: 10:51

Make it work, baby, come on, I love you yeah.

Cass: 10:54

So for her to like take her ring off and I don't even remember if she like threw it at him or she like dropped it, but she was just like I want a divorce and after she said that that's when he exploded. So, it was just like that's where my mindset is, where I'm like okay, well, does it like say that he didn't like actually side with his family and she survived?

Cass: 11:12

till the morning and everyone else had died, would he have still survived? So it's just, I feel like in a weird way I want to say yes, for as long as he was standing there talking to her, but then it was that moment of when she said, like I want a divorce is when he died. But I also wonder if Daniel, whose dead body was in the other room, also exploded.

Nick: 11:34

Yes, well, he's dead, so probably not. But the other curveball I would throw at it is that maybe it's not necessarily her saying the words I want to divorce, but her intent, like she wants nothing to do with the family. Daniel wanted nothing to do with the family, but Alex came around at the end. So I think it also you could also interpret it that way of like, well, grace and Daniel, if he had lived, he might not, he might have survived because he rejected the family. Basically.

Cass: 12:01

And I was thinking yep, yeah. So I was thinking that, not just because he's Adam Brody Daniel's. But no, I was upset when Daniel died.

Nick: 12:09

Yes.

Cass: 12:11

No, but I was upset, like yeah, I was upset when Daniel died, because it is that whole when he changes to a good guy, you're rooting for him and like Grace to leave. So that did click to my mind too, where I was like, ok, well, he was probably going to die with the family anyway. Yeah, yeah, for sure, like, yeah, most likely, but I do think.

Nick: 12:29

I do like to think that little bit of leeway, where maybe the rule is like if it's, if you're fully in on the family business, basically like yeah, you're screwed, but like if you have a change, true change of heart, where you're like I don't want anything to do with this, maybe you get some leeway and you don't have to explode into a bunch of pieces and stuff.

Nick: 12:49

Well, you know it's interesting movie because for and maybe it's it's a. I almost feel like, while we talk about it being like this cult hit and stuff, I almost feel like it's not talked about enough. Like I see it on a lot of people's like top you know 10 newest horror movies and stuff and things like that. But I you don't see people dressing up as Grace in the bright. I think that's like a fun Halloween costume. You just go to Goodwill, find like a cheap bride outfit and throw some red paint on it and stuff and get a shotgun and like you're good to go like you know.

Nick: 13:21

But I, because it's a very iconic image and she's playing this, what I would assume to become, what I think would become a very iconic character, but it seems like it just hasn't. Maybe enough time hasn't taken off yet it's only been four, almost five years and so maybe there's just needs more time to gestate before people go like, hey, that movie was awesome, I love this movie, you should watch it. But that's what we're doing right here. Because it is interesting, because it yeah, for such a small budget it may back its money, but I guess because it didn't like blow up, because that's kind of where the world we're in now. It's like if a movie doesn't blow up like 100 million plus and gets talked about a lot, it almost gets thrown under the radar and gets lost in this streaming world that we're in now, you know.

Cass: 14:03

Yeah, and it's weird because, like Grace is, I think, one of my favorite final girls, just because, like she is different from the other ones where it's just like she.

Cass: 14:13

She didn't know what she was expecting like during that night and she was funny about it too. She was just I don't know it's, it was just it's. It's weird to see that there are people that like they see this movie. They like this movie, but it really isn't talked about that much when it is a good movie and Grace is a final girl, no matter what, like I mean she was cut, soaked in blood at the end, and sits, sits down on the step while a bunch of like firemen and police officers are running into her house.

Cass: 14:44

Yeah, technically it could be her house now her, her former house.

Nick: 14:47

Yeah, it is a great shot and like again, like there's so much like attention to detail in this movie. The cinematography is great, like even like the setup of, like the games and stuff and like the contraption that they use to decide what game they're going to play. Everything on that level is so like meticulous and and I and that's what I really loved about it- yeah, no, I.

Cass: 15:10

I enjoyed a lot about that movie. I think it was just a fun watch and plus, some are weaving and Adam Burdy.

Nick: 15:16

True, true, you can't go wrong with that? Yeah.

Cass: 15:19

But but, nick, how do you think it will hold up or change in the late 80s?

Nick: 15:23

So I think that obviously, this movie is somewhat of a love letter to those slasher movies of that time. I think there's a little bit of meta going on in 2019, but there's still plenty of comedies and horror comedies going on in the late 80s. I mean, you think of things like Heather's, where it was like this, very much like this teen movie, but they're murdering their high school friends and stuff and it's and it's treated just like very over the top and hilarious, and so I think it finds a sweet spot in this area easily. I think it is almost at moments and homage to this era in time, you know.

Cass: 15:58

Yeah.

Nick: 15:59

What about? What about you? What do you? What do you think? Changes about it?

Cass: 16:03

No, I mean, I kind of agree with that I, and Heather's is a really good example too, because, like I, was worried that maybe the comedy aspect of it wouldn't be as like as on the forefront yeah. But if you think of stuff like Little Shop of Horrors and Heather's and stuff, like it will still be that same sort of vibe for horror and the comedy aspect.

Nick: 16:24

So I mean, I think, that will still be there.

Cass: 16:27

The war will not be, I think, as prominent, yeah, like, unless you're doing like a Nightmare on Elm Street, fun version of it. So to get that.

Nick: 16:37

I think it could still live in that horror comedy realm and still have a lot of the humor that goes on with it. I mean, you're, you're almost 10 years removed from an American werewolf in London, which is kind of one of the first times I'm aware of that. They blended, like this horror and comedy stuff where the horror moments are very horrifying when he's turning into the werewolf, when she's watching someone's head get shot off or she falls into the trap With all the dead bodies that are there and then but then there's funny moments in both movies. So I think it still has plenty of room to like be funny and kind of have some dark humor going on as well. I think the only thing obviously that changes is there's no cell phones.

Nick: 17:16

You know, I think you still have a monitor system that can you, can you can 80s technology technology explain that a way of like we have a tech system like security system, but the like when, when the, the husband, when the brother in law, whose name is Fitch, when he's like off looking at his phone how to use a bone arrow, or just talking to his texting his friend, it'll probably be more. You could have him with that old time regular wired phone, just being like calling his friend, like what's up, nothing, family stuff. Yeah, it sucks Like that. It could be funny to get the phone. But other things, like on the on service call where she's in the car and they shut down the car, you have to work around that a bit. It might be a they'll just. You just have to figure it out in a different way that fits the ages. You know, like flat tire. You know there's there's tropes like that, but hey they, you got to keep her around the house for a reason.

Cass: 18:06

So unless you like, it could be like a situation where someone like she was able to like stop somebody from the road and yeah it's that whole taxi, like or not taxi, but just like someone picks her up and it's like, oh hey, I'm actually part of the family. And then they end up getting like killed in the process.

Nick: 18:24

She gets picked up by a cop and they say like, oh, there's a crazy person out and they think she's the crazy person or something like that. For sure, technology just ruins everything when you go backwards, cass, it's no fun.

Cass: 18:36

You don't need technology for horror.

Nick: 18:38

I guess not. Yeah, I suppose not. Oh, Cass, is it time to cast. Are we ready now?

Cass: 18:44

I think so. Are you ready?

Nick: 18:46

How about I'm gonna be. You know All right?

Cass: 18:50

Well, we don't have enough time for everyone, so this is where we throw in some notable supporting cast and like on our main show. This is the lightning round where we each quickly give our picks. So here's who will be casting in this section 30 seconds or less. Woo, woo. So for our 30 seconds or less, we only have a few, because I think we have. I think, ready or not has a decent amount of it's a pretty big cast yeah.

Cass: 19:15

Yeah, but for to start with, we have charity lady Dumas, who is played by Elise. Uh, what is it again?

Nick: 19:26

Love. Yeah, it's love, Elise, Love okay.

Cass: 19:30

Elise, who is the wife of Daniel Daniel, played by Adam Brody.

Nick: 19:35

Got it Okay.

Cass: 19:37

Elise Leveque was in. Should I say what she's in or?

Nick: 19:42

Yeah, yeah, let the people know what she's in. Yeah, she looks like she's in orphan black and stargate universe. It looks like some TV shows and stuff. Okay, cool, cool, cool, very cool, very fun. Who did you have picked there, cass?

Cass: 19:58

I went with Demi Moore.

Nick: 20:00

Okay, I could see that. Yeah, Charity's very much the she's in it to win it, Like she's all about the money, she's all about the fame. So like I think Demi can play into that kind of like I knew what I signed up for. There's that moment.

Cass: 20:13

Yeah, she could play like that bitchy role very, very well, because that's kind of how Charity is.

Nick: 20:19

Yeah.

Cass: 20:19

But Nick, who did you pick?

Nick: 20:21

Well, I went with Jennifer Jason Lee. Most people, she's a name a lot of people know, but if you don't, in this period of time, in 86, she's doing the hitcher, and then a bunch of different movies from there to 89, like Sister, sister, undercover, heart of the Night, and then in 89, big picture, last exit to Brooklyn. But I think she just has the right amount of fun as well as just being like an attractive lady, you know at the time one of the girls of the 80s but I think that she has like the dramatic timing to be able to just like be like no, I signed up for this, I'm ready to go, and you're like oh, oh, you're one of the bad ones. But what's Demi Moore up to in this? She's just got off St Elmo's fire, like in 85, right, yes, yes.

Cass: 21:03

And she was doing in 86, she was doing about last night in 88. I believe she was doing a couple of different things. The seventh sign was one that I saw. And there were no angels in 89.

Nick: 21:16

Got it, okay. So this is this. Predates ghost in the early 90s. So she's got. She's got some free room to play. Okay, I think either or there for sure it would work. Okay, who's up next?

Cass: 21:25

All right, so our next one is Fitch Bradley.

Nick: 21:31

Okay, played by Christian Braun Braun.

Cass: 21:36

I think, is how you say it Sure Run, sure, he is the husband of Emily the sister Got it To both Daniel and Alex and he is in Snowpiercer and orphan black.

Nick: 21:50

He was in a lot of more like TV shows. Yeah, snowpiercer, the TV show, not the, not the crisp pine movie that it's based off of?

Cass: 21:58

Yeah, Is it crisp pine or is?

Nick: 22:00

it, chris Evans. Chris Evans, I'm sorry.

Cass: 22:02

There's too many Chris's.

Nick: 22:04

But yeah. Fitch, Fitch who's like the. He's the. He's just the brother-in-law, that's just he. He doesn't want to be there. He's bored, like we're talking about. He's on his phone. He's even been like he turns to the best scenes. When he turns to charity, he's like so we're out right, like I'm, we're over this right. And she just stares at it. He's like okay, fine.

Cass: 22:23

Never mind. No, wasn't he given like a crossbow that he'd even know how to use?

Nick: 22:27

Right, he's like how do I, how do I use this?

Cass: 22:29

And he's he's like how is this?

Nick: 22:31

Yeah, it's ridiculous.

Cass: 22:33

He's definitely the fun character of the of the group.

Nick: 22:36

Yeah, well, I'll tell you who I went with. It's pretty, I would say it's pretty on the nose, by the way, with Glenn Shaddix. People know him from Beetlejuice and Sunset and Heather's particularly, but I think he just he looks like the guy. He's also a great kind of comedic actor that has a kind of seems to have like a good fit in these kind of macabre, horror-esque kind of movies. But I just think he'd have a lot of fun with it. Who did you grab?

Cass: 23:03

I also picked Glenn Shaddix, Cause I was thinking of the whole Beetlejuice like how we played in Beetlejuice so you know, it's very, it's very hit on the nose and, yes, he does look like.

Nick: 23:15

Right. I immediately was like what's that guy up to?

Cass: 23:17

I was like yes, we can.

Nick: 23:18

We can fit it in there somewhere.

Cass: 23:20

It'll work out.

Nick: 23:21

The rules are flexible here, we don't lose anything.

Cass: 23:23

It is no, this is all for fun.

Nick: 23:26

Yes, imagination, but yeah, across the country high five, we got the same one, yeah.

Cass: 23:35

Cool, cool Cool.

Nick: 23:36

All right.

Cass: 23:37

So now let's go with Emily Leidemoss, who is played by Melanie Scrofano Scrofano, sure, yes, she was in Letter Kenny.

Nick: 23:49

Oh, mrs McMurray, that's right. Okay, yes, okay, have you watched Letter Kenny Cass?

Cass: 23:55

I have not.

Nick: 23:55

Oh, it's fun. She's a very it's not a far, it's not a far jump from her Letter Kitty character in this movie. Like I was watching it and I was like she looks so familiar and I was like it's Mrs McMurray and like her and her husband in the show are like these outrageous characters who are for lack of a better phrase they're just horny all the time and they're just constantly talking about it and her being the Coke addict sister. That likes the party, not that, not a big of a jump. So you could see where they were. Like let's put this, let's put her in here, she'll have fun with it. So it's Melanie. Melanie Scrofano plays Emily in this one.

Cass: 24:29

Okay, so it's. It's crazy because her and Fitch have kids and stuff together and she's the Coke addict.

Nick: 24:35

Yeah, there's the moment when she's like my kids don't deserve to die and I was like, wow, you came around real quick. So I got so screwed up real fast when I got serious.

Cass: 24:46

The Coke just left her system.

Nick: 24:48

Yeah, not the kids. So for this one, cass, I'll just throw at you. I picked Jennifer Tilly. People know her from Bride of Chucky, later on in a decade or so from here, but in this point she's just got smaller roles and stuff from in 86. It's inside out. And then from there there's he's my girl Gary Shandling's show, which is a TV show, a movie called Remote Control, a cult hit, johnny be good, that a lot of people are familiar with. And then in 89, she's moonlighting far from home. Let it ride in the fabulous Baker boys to give you the rundown. But I think she just has a lot of fun with comedic timing and she can kind of play that party girl vibe as well. But then when it comes to that moment when it kind of hits, you're like okay, well, I feel a little bad for you, but you're still kind of a screw up. So you're. But she's a fun character and I think Jennifer Tilly could have a lot of fun with it. But who did you grab?

Cass: 25:40

when she kills the maids and stuff.

Nick: 25:43

Yeah, where she keeps accidentally like stop killing everyone. I'm I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what I'm doing. I could just see her kind of doing that with a lot of fun.

Cass: 25:54

I went with Sarah Jessica Parker. Oh, okay, I thought I thought that'd be kind of fun. It's after Footloose she was doing a couple of different things at the time. I don't think it's too much like known stuff, but she is just a fun. I think she would have fun with it because, like you said, it's more of a like like. You just have this outrageous like girl who really should be more of a mother to her kids than a coke addict. Like love and girl. But then again she married a very useless man.

Nick: 26:29

Yeah, yeah, listen, it was college, they were having fun, you know. She thought. She thought maybe, maybe he would come around and, like most men, he didn't.

Cass: 26:37

So I just think. I think it would be fun for Sarah Jessica Parker, because this is her like. This is younger Sarah Jessica Parker. So this is. It is before sex in the city. Yeah, predates that I think it just works for her. For sure, I think that it just it's fun.

Nick: 26:53

But Jennifer Dilly, really because even in Footloose you kind of see how she gets to play the peppy best friend character and with this you just you just kind of crank that up about to nine or 10 or 11, depending, and you say, just have fun with it. And she gets to be like the younger sister, that's always like daddy's girl and gets what she wants. It's. That's. What's funny is when the mom's like go do this, and she's like I don't want in, the dad's like listen to your mother, and she's just like, oh no, so that's so, that's 30 seconds. So that's our 30 seconds or less, not done in 30 seconds or less. We're working out the kids on these mini soaps, but you know it's still still fun. Yeah, it's fine, we're fine, it's fine. So that means we're jumping to the top cast right.

Cass: 27:33

Yeah, Okay cool.

Nick: 27:34

Cool, give me the rundown cast. Who do we have up there? Just just the characters themselves.

Cass: 27:41

Yep.

Nick: 27:41

So we have Helen Leidemass, who is the Okay, the creepy aunt right.

Cass: 27:47

The creepy aunt? Yes, she was just always sitting around staring with those creepy eyes.

Nick: 27:52

Yes.

Cass: 27:54

Played by Nikki.

Nick: 27:56

Yeah, nikki Guadagini. Probably there's a lot of Italian-looking names in this cast.

Cass: 28:03

Yeah, yeah, a little bit.

Nick: 28:07

Who else do we have on this cast list?

Cass: 28:08

Yeah, All right, we also have Becky Leidemass played by Andy McDowell, who is the mother.

Nick: 28:17

Okay, loves the name.

Cass: 28:20

We also have Tony Leidemass, played by Henry Sersney, I think is how you say it who is the father?

Nick: 28:27

Yeah, he's one of those guys you recognize. You're like, oh, I know him.

Cass: 28:30

Yeah, he was very. I still could not place where I knew him from but he's definitely familiar. Then we have Daniel Leidemass, Adam Brody.

Nick: 28:40

Okay, we know that.

Cass: 28:41

We know him.

Nick: 28:42

Moving on.

Cass: 28:45

Alex Leidemass, played by Mark O'Brien.

Nick: 28:48

Okay, and he's the husband. Yeah, okay.

Cass: 28:51

Yes, he's the husband. And then Grace Leidemass, played by Samara Weaving, who is our final girl.

Nick: 28:57

Cool, let's jump down to the bottom and I'll kind of. Yes, I want to talk a little bit about Helen. Obviously she's the creepy aunt, helen Leidemass, nikki Guadagini, I guess she was in a lot of Canadian film and stuff.

Cass: 29:11

Yeah, she was in a lot of. She was just in a lot of film and TV at that time, but more in Canada than anything Gotcha. The only thing that's very most notable that she was in was Silent Hill and I've seen that movie but I don't remember her too much. But that's her more notable like bigger film that she's been in Besides this movie.

Nick: 29:30

She has. I think she has the most fun in this movie Like she plays up, like the creepy over the top, like, just like, almost like the there's a word for it like the person who's warning you like you must, we must do the thing. Like she's just playing up that trope so hard but she's having so much fun with, like her faux-hawk going on the entire time.

Cass: 29:51

Oh, my God.

Nick: 29:52

It's like if I could get my hair to stand that tall, that high, I would have been so popular in the early 2000s. I would have Listen. It was a time. You had to be there, cass. You had to be there.

Cass: 30:02

Okay.

Nick: 30:03

But no, she had a lot of fun with it and it is kind of a callback to like that type of horror character. You know, the Harbinger is what I'm thinking of, that's the term for them Kind of a Harbinger.

Cass: 30:14

Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, no, definitely. And she, yeah, she's really creepy with every, but she's wanting everyone still on track, because she's really trying to tell people like the curse is real, oh, she believes a hundred and ten percent, Like she's like we got to stick to the plan, we got to do it the way we've always done it.

Nick: 30:29

And everybody else is like can we use guns Like normal guns, Can we? Let's just use the security footage, it's fine. And she's like no.

Cass: 30:39

Oh my God, I forgot about that. But, Nick, who did you cast? As so I.

Nick: 30:45

Yes, for Helena. I gave you a throwback as well, a horror throwback. I felt like this was the right spot to put someone like that there. So I'm giving you Janet Lee. Most people probably know her from the original Psycho back in 1950. And she At this point she's just playing old lady. She's doing a lot of TV shows, tv movies and stuff in the late 80s, just playing kind of a motherly figure, a grandmother figure. So I think she fits right in here with In this spot and I think she can definitely play up the whole creepiness as well, like she's a phenomenal actress and she's only. It's funny that I think it just is a nice bow on her horror career as well as her film crew in general, just framing it with Psycho and her films in between up to this point.

Cass: 31:31

Yeah, no, I like that. That's a solid pick.

Nick: 31:35

Yeah, it is, I picked it.

Cass: 31:37

Okay, full of yourself, aren't you?

Nick: 31:41

Confidence, confidence.

Cass: 31:43

Sure, that's what we'll call it. I went with Liza Minnelli. She was doing a lot of music videos at the time.

Nick: 31:52

So this never works for her. She's one. Go ahead. I'm sorry, I keep cutting you off, oh I know it's rude, don't roll your eyes, she was.

Cass: 32:05

I just thought she was a fun pick. She was doing music. God, you best be up now. She was doing music videos, but also a lot of other smaller TV stuff. But yes, nick, go ahead.

Nick: 32:15

No, I was just going to say I think that works because she's very much. I mean, she's a musician more so than an actress at this point especially, and she has a thing for the theatrics so she can kind of play the over the top. She can kind of do the big right at this, for sure.

Cass: 32:30

No, yeah, definitely, and I just feel like with this sort of role, it doesn't have to be super big Just because you just got to look creepy, you just got to kind of be in the corners, sit in the corner where you're really thick eyeliner and shadow have fun, which I think she would do great. It's not, it's perfect for her. No, I think both of those picks are fun. All right, are you ready to do Becky?

Nick: 32:57

Yup, yup, yup.

Cass: 32:58

Let's go with our mother, becky Le Demas, played by Andy McDowell Andy, I feel like everyone knows who Andy is like in St Elmo's Fire Ground Hall Day.

Nick: 33:10

Sex Lies and.

Cass: 33:11

Videotape. She's just she's known in everything.

Nick: 33:15

A big late 80s, early 90s staple, for sure, yeah.

Cass: 33:19

Who did you pick, Nick?

Nick: 33:21

Well, you know, andy does such a good job with this.

Nick: 33:24

I think she because she comes up, she's not part of the family mainly, but she comes, she's married in, but she and she leads you to believe like, because that's the whole thing, like building up Samara's character. She's so Grace is so concerned with like are they going to like me? And stuff, and she kind of puts on this thing of like you know, it's great, you know, and she kind of relates and she's like you know, when I came in I thought the same thing and stuff and she they use Andy McDowell's likability here really well, but she also is able to flip the switch when it comes time to play the game, even more so than the dad who's like part of the actual bloodline, part of the family. It's funny how a lot of the outside characters that are married in are way more into the game than the family members are. They're all like we got to do it, you know, and they're all like let's get this done, let's come on, let's go, let's freaking go Besides, besides, besides Fitch Right Besides Fitch.

Nick: 34:17

I just wanted the money, so but no, I think no.

Cass: 34:20

They definitely need you yeah.

Nick: 34:22

So I think with that you want somebody that has that really well rounded ability to come off as charming but then also can play up kind of the serious side as well and the very in the pursuit of our main character, grace. So I'm going to give you Julie Christie. Most people know her from Dr Shavago is a big movie back in the day and Fahrenheit 451, but in the 80s she's doing kind of the same thing that Janet Lee's a little bit. She's in movies like Power, miss Mary and then Secret Obsession in 89. So nothing of super major note. So I think this is going to be a fun role for her to play, like a very motherly character on one side and then also like being able to be on the hunt as well. But who did you pick?

Cass: 35:03

I picked Dee Wallace, so it was already. She's already known for her horror.

Nick: 35:09

Okay.

Cass: 35:10

Cujo critters.

Nick: 35:12

Okay, got it, got it. Okay, the mom and Cujo, yeah, yes, okay.

Cass: 35:19

So I think she's in movies and shows around that time 86 was doing critters and club life. But I just wanted a motherly figure because you kind of need that, like as you explained, like for Grace, like kind of like, you know, just being nice to her, bringing her into the family, trying to get her to understand, like what you know, what they're about, but until it comes to time to play in the game, that's when, like, she completely switches. So I feel like you need someone that is like motherly to them. Be like, oh shit, like she's no longer a mother.

Nick: 35:49

We were bonding, we were having fun, no, and now she's trying to shoot you. It's fine. This woman is so traumatized by the end.

Cass: 36:00

Oh, my God, you know what I feel like. Grace, you know, just left tougher than she was before she would have. Oh yeah, 100%.

Nick: 36:09

She left like she has a very strong character arc which we will dive into once we get up to her. The before and after is a very vivid image, physically as well as like internal character 100%.

Cass: 36:22

But no, I like both of those. Those are fun.

Nick: 36:24

Yeah, I do too.

Cass: 36:25

It was the same same vibe. Let's go to the father. Tony Leidemoss. Played by. Played by Henry Searsney. Henry Searsney has been in a few different things. He was in the boys of Saint. Vincent Mission Impossible. Oh, it's that guy.

Nick: 36:45

It's the guy from the. He was in the original Mission Impossible and he's in the new one and the new one that came out. Okay, that's where I've seen him before. I was like I know him from somewhere. But okay, that's what I know, that's what I know him from.

Cass: 36:57

But I'm sorry, I got excited at that he was also in scream six. I don't remember him in scream six, but the director of the film of ready or not also directed screen five and screen six. So that kind of made sense to why Henry Searsney was in this. But no, I did like the father's character as well, I think he was just kind of he was charming.

Cass: 37:24

Yeah, he's a lot of fun, for sure he, because he's just very charming. But he's also like okay, we want to get this done, but he's willing to change the rules too, Just because he just wants to like, he wants to kill grace, he's like let's get this done. Turn the cameras back one.

Nick: 37:43

He wants it to be as easy as possible. If we're not going to, just because the whole game is, if she draws this card, they have to kill her. But every other game it's just like oh yeah, he played tic-tac-toe, he played chess or whatever, but that's kind of the vibe.

Nick: 37:56

Yeah, that's kind of the vibe all the family goes through is they're just like, oh gosh, now we have to do this. And at first he's into it, but the harder it gets he's just like, oh my gosh, just somebody, let's turn on the security cameras please. So he's definitely really funny and a lot of fun to play with for an actor. Who would you do?

Cass: 38:15

with.

Nick: 38:15

I went with Charles Groden. If you don't know that name, he's the dad in Beethoven is what most people will know him as he has a bigger movie with Robert De Niro at this time in 88 called Midnight Run. I've heard it's a great. It's on a lot of like top listed action movies and stuff. I need to watch it. It looks really great. But beyond that he's doing from 86 to 89 things like Last Resort, ishtar, the couch trip, you can't hurry love and Cranium Command, which is a wild name, but he just has. He has the traits for both comedy and like serious moments. So I just think he he has. He's obviously goes into dad mode in Beethoven, so I think he does a good job playing into that really well. So yeah, cass, that's who I picked. Who did you pick for the dad?

Cass: 39:01

I went with John Lithgow.

Nick: 39:04

Okay, Because I wanted I wanted.

Cass: 39:06

I wanted someone fun, Like this. I wanted a dad figure. I wanted some, as you mentioned, for the mother. I wanted someone fun, like likable. So you're going to like him when you first see him and then you're just like, why is he acting like this? Like, don't kill our main character. But at that time he was doing the Manhattan Project in 86, was doing Harry the Henderson's.

Nick: 39:32

Yes.

Cass: 39:34

Baby Girl's Scott. Baby Girl's Scout oh got it In 87 and out cold in 89. So I just I don't know. I wanted a. I wanted a fun father figure, but also.

Nick: 39:47

I wanted a fun dad.

Cass: 39:50

Yeah, I mean, you need, you need a fun dad for this role, cause I just feel like you need someone serious. And then to the mindset of like footloose you're going to have to know that he's going to. You need someone like serious but also fun, because like he's not like serious all the time, like there was always times like even when they were watching the recording of her, like outside, because I think it was the whole the car scene.

Nick: 40:14

When someone was driving, they're like look behind you. She kicks the crap out of the butler and they crash and they're like oh my gosh.

Cass: 40:25

So that's the scene.

Nick: 40:26

Yeah, you try to find that line between between a footloose mean preacher, john Lithgow, and Harry, and the Henderson's father figure, john Lithgow. God, I see, I see the vision. Okay, I'm down with it.

Cass: 40:38

That's fun, you know they're both fun. I like them both All. Right now let's go to Daniel Leydemoss played by the one and only Adam Broody.

Nick: 40:47

I don't have I heard of him. Is he? Is he anything? I think so.

Cass: 40:52

He was in the show, the show, that one thing that he was in the show the OC, which was very popular.

Nick: 40:59

Yeah, I've never watched that, never heard of that. I haven't either, but anyway, that's a lie, kikass, stop lying, stop, stop the lying.

Cass: 41:06

This is where I wouldn't lie, but he was also in Jennifer's body.

Nick: 41:12

Also in Shazam and I think she's also in Shazam.

Cass: 41:16

You can go on Listen, I'm just riffing you he was, I know, but I think one of his like notable, like roles was Mr and Mrs Smith, because it was a smaller role but he was still like known for, like I forgot what he was. I think he was like he was helping in some way with it, like just he was a part of it but, I, haven't seen Mr and Mrs Smith in a long time, but Jennifer's body is probably mainly the one he's more notable for because he was the lead singer of the band.

Cass: 41:48

But Daniel's a very fun character. Daniel is just very he's the alcoholic, he, he's very funny about alcoholism, cass Okay. For him it is.

Nick: 42:01

Okay.

Cass: 42:01

Everything's fine, got it? Um, no, but like, he's just very, like he's very. Not about his family, you can just tell. And because there's a conversation between him and his wife where he was like I like her, she's, like I like her she's you know good, and his wife kind of says something smart, he was like no, honey, it's just because she still has a soul, because of the fact that, like, they've all, like, have basically given up their souls right to this damn curse, he's very much the cynical member of the family and which in the flashback at the beginning.

Nick: 42:37

He's correct me if I'm wrong, but he's the one that's just watching. He's not the one that rats out, the guy that's running right.

Cass: 42:43

He does Okay.

Nick: 42:45

But clearly that has an effect on him and I think that that's just worked all its way, all the way through up to the movie at the starting point here.

Cass: 42:52

Yeah.

Nick: 42:53

So I think, yeah, he definitely. He plays well off of the idea that you're like this guy's the screw up of the family and he's just gonna be a problem. But then, slowly over the movie, you kind of you empathize with him a the more you learn about the family. And then when he kind of comes around finally to help out grace, you're very much like you rooting for him to also survive. So when he does die, it's you're like no, we really liked you. You, you did it, you came back around, but yeah, let's talk about that real, just real quick.

Cass: 43:23

He dies by his own wife.

Nick: 43:26

Yes, that's right.

Cass: 43:27

Charity was when I killed him.

Nick: 43:29

That's crazy.

Cass: 43:31

Listen, I don't know what that's supposed to say.

Nick: 43:34

It's sad, it's just sad, it's just really sad. The statement on marriage in America is just really sad. At that point, if you have any worries about getting married, this is not the movie to watch on the night before your marriage. Let me just put it out there in case your family turns out to be murderous.

Cass: 43:52

I actually just read a YouTube comment today, watching the trailer again.

Nick: 43:56

Yeah.

Cass: 43:57

And the YouTube comment said just got engaged today and my mother sent me this trailer. I was like damn.

Nick: 44:06

That mother does not want you to get married. If you have, if you are still in the engagement process, that's your sign. Your mother's trying to tell you something.

Cass: 44:17

But it makes you wonder with his scene in the beginning, like was that a sign to show you that he was actually protective of his brother to not be a part of something like this? And he was doing it with Grace as well, because he wanted to help Grace. But he just kept kind of like having to listen to his family, which is why, like that first time, he was like I'm going to give you a 20 second head start. He's like I'm going to let them know where you are.

Nick: 44:41

Yeah, they definitely sprinkle in like a lot of hints Will he? Won't he turn? Will he? Which sides he really going to play for? You know, especially when, like the dad gets choked out and he's just like, come on, we'll do it together, and then the dad hits him the husband, from behind and he's just like I was distracting him. Obviously, you know.

Cass: 44:57

Yeah.

Nick: 44:59

It's a fun role to play with. It's fun. I mean we said that about pretty much every role. This movie is just fun in general. So like there's no real like lame duck role here, we have.

Nick: 45:09

Where you're, just like you know, I guess they just had to do the best with what they could. You know, I think everything, every character has like a nuance to them that's interesting and great for a character or an actor to dive into. For sure I'm giving you I feel like this is a little I don't know if it's on the nose, but it's like he could definitely play this type. And I'm giving you James Spader Now everybody knows him now is the voice of like Ultron and stuff from the Avengers sequel, but back in the day and also as Robert California in the office TV show. But at this point he's doing young blood about last night.

Nick: 45:42

87, square dance and masquerade. I'm sorry, this is the wrong list here. I'm talking about someone else. Wrong list. Okay, 86, he's pretty in pink. 87 it's mannequin baby boom. Less than zero is the notable one with Robert Downey Jr, who I also considered here and I could. I could hear Corey screaming from like a week from now, being like that's the pick you should have done.

Nick: 46:05

But I'm sticking to my guns with James Spader. He's also. He was also in Wall Street and Sex Lies and videotape in 89, but I think he just has that kind of vibe like you. You would sit there and think, like this guy's prop he's probably in on the whole family thing like he's trouble. Like James Spader gives off that vibe. But I think especially young James Spader right here he'll have a lot of fun working on that arc from being like the cynical one to being like okay, I'm gonna try and do the right thing here at the end and you'll feel bad when he dies. Who like? No, no, ultron, come on, come on, you're. You're a robot with feelings. Okay, who did you pick for to replace your beloved Adam Brody?

Cass: 46:47

which was very hard, but it's fine because I went with someone that I liked in the 80s. I went with Rob Lowe Cause I wanted someone in that like charming mindset too, because like, even if people don't consider Adam Brody attractive or like the pretty boy and stuff, I feel like for that role you need someone that's in that role, cause it's like I think you need Rob Lowe in his like lowest.

Nick: 47:15

Yeah.

Cass: 47:17

Just because.

Nick: 47:17

Daniel is at his lowest, which is personally where he's at at this point, isn't it On his personal life?

Cass: 47:21

Yeah, it works out. Yeah, you kind of need Rob Lowe in, almost like the St Elmo's fire mindset as well too, where it's like doing like drugs or drinking and stuff, but also still like sweet. So I thought he'd do a really, really good job with Daniel and at that time he was doing young blood about last night in 86, 87 square dance masquerade and illegally yours. But, no, I just thought he would be. He would be fun in the Daniel role.

Nick: 47:55

Now no, it's not Adam Brody, but it's not quite there, but no, I get it. Yeah, rob Lowe was actually someone I considered also, cause I do, you're right, I think he can play like the likable person, but he also has the ability to kind of lean into some cynicism and stuff which he doesn't bring out a whole lot, like in Parks and Rec. He's definitely playing like his. They're playing off the fact that he's this gorgeous human being that still has age, while I find wine. But, like you'll see, like there's there was a blooper where, like they're pretending he's a bad person behind the scenes of the show and he's just like cursing and stuff, and I'm like that's who I'm kind of thinking about. So, yeah, I totally get your pick there, but I didn't pick him there because I had him somewhere else, so I wonder where it could be Cass.

Cass: 48:42

But speaking of which?

Nick: 48:43

who's next on the list?

Cass: 48:47

Who's next is Alex Leidemoss, played by Marco Bryan.

Nick: 48:51

Right.

Cass: 48:52

He's our in-character's husband, who later on becomes the antagonist. Marco Bryan was in Arrival, bad Times at the El Royale and Marriage Story.

Nick: 49:02

Gotcha gotcha. He's a very I don't remember him. I don't remember Marco Bryan in any of the movies that he's in, but he has a recognizable face. But yeah, he's playing Alex. So.

Cass: 49:15

Alex is like very, he's the good one in your mind because, like he's sweet, to our grace, he's very just. You don't expect him to change in the end. So I feel like with him, like he is trying to get her out, he is trying to like save her and protect her, but then he, like you do kind of need a character, that or not a character but he ends up just turning like just completely like you know what I'm gonna be, this bad guy, like I'm gonna listen to, like what my family has said to me, like I was the one that actually saw the ghost.

Nick: 49:52

Yeah.

Cass: 49:53

I'm gonna like, I'm gonna finish this. We're gonna kill her, like, let's finish this, let's get her into this room and finish this.

Nick: 49:59

The turn on him? I don't know. Yeah, the turn on him doesn't, is it, as I feel like as well handled as Daniels is, but because it kind of comes out of nowhere. But I feel like that's kind of like you kind of need it to be that Cause the entire time they're trying to feed on the whole idea that he's like you're part of this family. You gotta get back in the fold. You know who you really are. And the whole idea of him actually seeing the ghost guy in the chair does lay some of that groundwork. But when you first watch here, like well, that came out of nowhere a little bit. But second watching you're like, okay, I kind of see where this comes from, got it.

Cass: 50:32

Got it but this is where I put I think hinting about the chair.

Nick: 50:36

Yeah, Hinting about the chair definitely. Sorry, but it lays it on there thick the second time around. You're like, oh okay, but this is where I put Rob Lowe for sure. Yeah, For the same kind of reasons, just flipped obviously like good guy to bad guy instead of bad guy to good guy. So I and we've kind of already talked a little bit about Rob Lowe, but I feel like that's that's where I placed him instead. So who do you have for Alex?

Cass: 50:57

Okay, I went with Michael J Fox.

Nick: 51:01

You put Michael J Fox in the bad guy role. How dare you? I did.

Cass: 51:08

I went to feel like listen, listen, I wanted a good guy, I wanted everyone to see him and be like oh, it's Michael J Fox, like he's going to be sweet, like he's going to just be this, like you know, loving husband. I wanted that vibe because you're going to, you're going to get pulled into his character. You're going to just be like okay, like he really does care about Grace.

Nick: 51:28

Yeah.

Cass: 51:29

And then it's slowly hinting about him like turning, and then it clicked, like then it hits, to that scene where he grabs Grace to take her into the other room. So I just thought Michael J Fox would be fun for that, because he does play that sweet boy like nice role very, very well and I think getting him into a horror like this and having him change is perfect. I think it'd be fun.

Nick: 51:52

No, I get it. There's the shock of it. At first we were like, are you serious right now? Like what are you talking about? But yeah, you really do want somebody that the audience is going to be like, oh, he's the good guy, he's here to help, like he's just chained up and when he gets loose he's going to come to the rescue. So when it gets to like the whole sacrifice scene, you're like, oh no, like he flipped on us and it's just that much more of a literal or figurative knife in the chest of like, oh my gosh, even he's trying to kill me. So no, I get it. I get the logic there. That makes sense. It's a fun playoff of Michael J Fox. He's just going to be really busy in the late 80s with the Back to the Future sequels, bright Lights, big City, secret of my Success. He's got a busy time, but he's used to it. At this point, yeah, sure, we'll just slowly kill him by overworking him to death. It's fine. Are we at the top? Is it fine? Is it time?

Cass: 52:44

With a small budget, like this movie was, I think it's fine.

Nick: 52:46

Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure Are we at the top now?

Cass: 52:48

It's time, it's time. Let's get to the last one, grace Le Demas, played by the beautiful Samara Weaving.

Nick: 52:58

Yes.

Cass: 52:59

Who is our protagonist?

Nick: 53:00

Not Margot Robbie right Final girl, Just confirming this.

Cass: 53:03

No, it's not Okay got it. It's not, which is funny, because Margot Robbie was considered for the role of Grace.

Nick: 53:09

Ah, interesting.

Cass: 53:11

Yeah, samara Weaving. You would know her from the babysitter. Gunza Kimbo Scream 6, and Nine Perfect Strangers Sure, she does a really yeah, the babysitter sounds familiar.

Nick: 53:28

But yeah, she does a great job in this role, I think, and, like we kind of hinted at before, she has a. There's a great arc that goes on Like they do a good job portraying it physically, with her costume change going from innocent white, you know all that stuff, to the disfigured dress being red and full of blood, with the gun and the smoke in the cigar at the end of the movie. She smokes at the beginning, but she's hiding that part of herself like who she truly is to the family in an attempt to impress them and so like. By the end she's like you know what I'm done with this. So it's, yeah, it's a fun. It's a fun transformation for her for sure.

Cass: 54:05

I didn't think of it that way. That's interesting, um, but, nick, who did you pick? Okay, we are great.

Nick: 54:12

Yes, I was.

Nick: 54:14

So one thing I tried to do my best of against Corey's will obviously is tried to not cast too many brat pack people.

Nick: 54:22

So instead for our lead actress shout out to Meg Ryan, who I thought about casting, but I'm going with kind of a lesser known 80s actress, catherine Mary Stewart. Most people know her from movies like Night of the Comet and the Last Starfighter and later on in the late 80s she's in a movie called Weekend at Burnies that a lot of people know, you know, but I think she just has obviously leading lady looks. But she also shows in movies like the Night of the Comet, which is kind of a horror-esque movie that she can handle, a lot of action and with some little bit of humor from Weekend at Burnies. So I think that she it's a chance to give somebody a big spot here and see if they can take off from there, obviously, or just something more to do, cause I do feel like she's one of the ones that got lost in the shuffle of all the the brat pack and all these other huge actresses at the time. Who do you have?

Cass: 55:18

No, I think that's fun. I picked Phoebe Cates.

Nick: 55:23

Okay.

Cass: 55:24

Just because I and this is after Gremlins and Fast Times, she was doing an 87 date with an angel, 88 with Shag, Bright Lights, Big City, and 89 was hard of Dixie. But I wanted someone that played like the pretty girl role as well, Cause I mean, I look at Samara and think she's the pretty girl.

Nick: 55:48

Yeah.

Cass: 55:48

But I feel like that'd be fun for Phoebe Cates because, like, yes, she's done Gremlins, and I mean Gremlins to me is still like horror based anyway Even if it's just not as scary, but you need a tough girl role. She played a tough girl role in that and I just wanted someone that, like did give off a fun vibe that, like Samara gave off. So I don't know, I think she was. She was the first person that I thought of, just because I wanted to see her in a leading role like this.

Cass: 56:20

And I think she would do amazing and honestly, I would love to see her. Michael J Fox. Well, you can also see her with Michael J.

Nick: 56:27

Fox in Bright Lights and Big City also in 88. So you're just, you're doubling up the Phoebe Cates, michael J Fox role, oh yeah.

Cass: 56:34

So, you know what it worked out? It worked out.

Nick: 56:37

Sure, sure, sure, no.

Cass: 56:39

I think the speech from Gremlins, I did not even realize that.

Nick: 56:42

I'm like it's right there. But I think the speech that she gives from Gremlins, which we've talked about before on a former episode of this podcast, and it's very just dark and stuff, but it's like she can ride the line between being the cutesy, very fun loving character. Then, like even in Gremlins too, she's like the self serious, like you know, business woman minded character in that movie. So you can have a lot of fun with those lines that she can play with as well. Well, that's it. I guess we did it.

Cass: 57:12

We wrapped up.

Nick: 57:12

This is the cast those are our casts for Ready or Not? The late 80s edition. Any final thoughts before you send us on our way. How do you feel? Do you feel like the cast is good? Is it as good as you thought it was when you first started?

Cass: 57:33

I did. I think it was fun. I think we picked a really really good fix. This wasn't one of those that I was like upset over or mad or couldn't see. I think we had really good reasoning.

Nick: 57:43

I should have just bonded, especially the Adam Brody role. I should have just made you suffer.

Cass: 57:48

That's fine. I knew you were gonna say it it's fine, but no, it's just that no one will be Adam Brody, but anyways.

Nick: 57:59

Goodness.

Cass: 58:01

Well, everyone that was Ready or Not in the late 80s, casted by myself and Nick. We're sure you have thoughts and critiques, so be sure to let us know on our social media profiles at Quantum Recast, comment on our posts and even set us a DM if you're feeling that strongly. We'd love to talk about these.

Nick: 58:18

Send us all of your hate.

Cass: 58:22

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Nick: 58:37

Yeah.

Cass: 58:39

Woo, but thank you for listening and we hope you'll join again next time. Say goodnight, Nick.

Nick: 58:45

Goodnight Nick.