Quantum Recast: Your Favorite Films, Recast In Different Years

The Addams Family - 1981: Raul Julia and the Macabre Marriage of Family Films and Gothic Horror

October 25, 2023 Quantum Recast Season 4 Episode 12
The Addams Family - 1981: Raul Julia and the Macabre Marriage of Family Films and Gothic Horror
Quantum Recast: Your Favorite Films, Recast In Different Years
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Quantum Recast: Your Favorite Films, Recast In Different Years
The Addams Family - 1981: Raul Julia and the Macabre Marriage of Family Films and Gothic Horror
Oct 25, 2023 Season 4 Episode 12
Quantum Recast

What if 'The Addams Family' was recast in 1981?

We're taking you on a speculative journey where we explore how this cult classic Halloween movie would have been transformed had it landed a decade earlier. We talk about the ins and outs of the kooky characters, the subtle balance between dark humor and wit, and the influence the 60s TV show would have on this hypothetical release. Plus, we bring in a fun angle with debates about potential casting choices - who would suit Gomez, Wednesday, and Uncle Fester best?

Now, picture in your mind’s eye the iconic roles played by the original cast - How could they change if portrayed by different actors from the 80s? Don't hold back your curiosity, because we are laying it all out. From character dissections to possible power-ups for Cory while choosing this cast, we have it all covered.  It's a blend of nostalgia, speculation, and hearty conversation that promises to entertain every Addams Family fan or movie enthusiast.

As hosts, we are not just stopping at examining individual characters and their traits but are also having some hearty debates about the casting. So, buckle up for this nostalgic ride that promises a generous dose of engaging discussions, a sprinkle of fun debates, and a whole lot of love for the 'mysterious and spooky' Addams Family!

Also check out Ash's episode of Film Exploration, covering The Addams Family!

TIMESTAMPS:
(00:01:00) Intro
(00:02:53) Critic Stats
(00:06:10) Year in Review: 2007 Box Office
(00:08:250) Oscars 2008
(00:11:44) What Changes?
(00:14:54) Why We Chose The Movie
(00:20:44) Rules
(00:23:36) 30 Seconds or Less Casting

MAIN CAST:
(00:29:20) Abigail Craven
(00:37:43) Pugsley Addams
(00:44:50) Wednesday Addams
(00:50:58) Morticia Addams
(00:58:25) Uncle Fester
(01:05:39) Gomez Addams
(01:15:52) Final Cast


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Hosts:
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Co-Hosts (Season 5):
Aly Dale (@alydale55)
Ash Hurry (@filmexplorationah)
Cass Elliott (
@take5cass)

Voice of the Time Machine:
Kristi Rothrock (@letzshake)

Editing by:
Nick Growall

Featured Music:
"Quantum Recast Theme" - Cory Williams
"Charmer" - Coat
"Revival" - Daniele Musto
"Pukka" - Bellodrone
"Kings and Queens" - Wicked Cinema
"Kiss the Cat" - Al Town
"Birdcage" - Al Town
"Passenger" - Abloom

*Music and licenses through Soundstripe

Show Notes Transcript Chapter Markers

What if 'The Addams Family' was recast in 1981?

We're taking you on a speculative journey where we explore how this cult classic Halloween movie would have been transformed had it landed a decade earlier. We talk about the ins and outs of the kooky characters, the subtle balance between dark humor and wit, and the influence the 60s TV show would have on this hypothetical release. Plus, we bring in a fun angle with debates about potential casting choices - who would suit Gomez, Wednesday, and Uncle Fester best?

Now, picture in your mind’s eye the iconic roles played by the original cast - How could they change if portrayed by different actors from the 80s? Don't hold back your curiosity, because we are laying it all out. From character dissections to possible power-ups for Cory while choosing this cast, we have it all covered.  It's a blend of nostalgia, speculation, and hearty conversation that promises to entertain every Addams Family fan or movie enthusiast.

As hosts, we are not just stopping at examining individual characters and their traits but are also having some hearty debates about the casting. So, buckle up for this nostalgic ride that promises a generous dose of engaging discussions, a sprinkle of fun debates, and a whole lot of love for the 'mysterious and spooky' Addams Family!

Also check out Ash's episode of Film Exploration, covering The Addams Family!

TIMESTAMPS:
(00:01:00) Intro
(00:02:53) Critic Stats
(00:06:10) Year in Review: 2007 Box Office
(00:08:250) Oscars 2008
(00:11:44) What Changes?
(00:14:54) Why We Chose The Movie
(00:20:44) Rules
(00:23:36) 30 Seconds or Less Casting

MAIN CAST:
(00:29:20) Abigail Craven
(00:37:43) Pugsley Addams
(00:44:50) Wednesday Addams
(00:50:58) Morticia Addams
(00:58:25) Uncle Fester
(01:05:39) Gomez Addams
(01:15:52) Final Cast


Thanks for listening; If you feel like supporting us, this is where you do that!
BuyMeACoffee

Check out or other content/socials here.
Linktree

Hosts:
Cory Williams (
@thelionfire)
Nick Growall (
@nickgrowall)

Co-Hosts (Season 5):
Aly Dale (@alydale55)
Ash Hurry (@filmexplorationah)
Cass Elliott (
@take5cass)

Voice of the Time Machine:
Kristi Rothrock (@letzshake)

Editing by:
Nick Growall

Featured Music:
"Quantum Recast Theme" - Cory Williams
"Charmer" - Coat
"Revival" - Daniele Musto
"Pukka" - Bellodrone
"Kings and Queens" - Wicked Cinema
"Kiss the Cat" - Al Town
"Birdcage" - Al Town
"Passenger" - Abloom

*Music and licenses through Soundstripe

Speaker 1:

1991 Hasta la vista baby. I ate his liver with some father beef.

Cory:

Be our guest be our guest Good night. Have to fight to grow, Okay he's back.

Speaker 3:

Ha ha Showtime. It's a miserable night, I know, darling Uncle Fester, may I have the salt? What do we say Now? Yes, watch the blur, unhappy darling, oh yeah.

Cory:

Music. Welcome to another episode of Quantum Recast. We're kind of rounding out our Halloween season. Yeah, ooh, what and so? But we're going to keep it light. We've talked about what Like ready or not. We've talked about Friday the 13th.

Nick:

From Dust Till Dawn, from Dust Till Dawn, we've kept it pretty rated R, so let's.

Cory:

We're going to do a family episode With me. Today is Nick and Ash.

Ash:

Yo, yo yo.

Cory:

And so we are taking 1991's the Addams Family, correct, and so we're going to do a family episode. You saw that we actually have the year 1981 next to it. Because that's what we do here, everyone on Quantum Recast we take a movie out of its original release year, we throw it in a time machine and we take it forwards or backwards or diagonal ways through time and we're just taking this one 10 years back to see what the Addams Family, the 1991. The 1991 version, the good version, would look like in 1981. Yeah, and so we're going to, we're going to dissect this movie. We're going to say what we love about it, maybe what we don't love about it, but then we're going to give it a fresh, new, 1981 looking cast, because pretty much the franchise goes from the 60s to the 90s, yep, with pretty minimal, you know, not a lot of the cartoon.

Nick:

There's a cartoon.

Speaker 3:

There's a cartoon. There's a cartoon. It's a lot of the content, yeah.

Cory:

So, but for the most part, we want to see what it would look like in that weird time that is the 80s but still the 70s, somehow True, and we're rounding out hey, we're completing the 80s with this episode.

Nick:

We are.

Cory:

This is the last year in the 80s. We've never been to.

Nick:

Which is weird to think about, because you love the 80s.

Cory:

I love the 80s, but this 81 is not the 80s. You're right. If you watch the show Freaks and Geeks, that's the year they're in. I think it's like 81, 82.

Ash:

So you've got to we're still kind of the 70s.

Cory:

Yeah, you've got every year in the 80s then yeah, until now. I mean now we have oh my. God, if we survive this episode, the 80s will be complete.

Ash:

Oh my God, no pressure.

Cory:

That remains to be seen. So let's dive into the Adams family in 1991 with some useless critic stats. Imdb, the international movie database, gives it a 6.9 out of 10. Rotten Tomatoes gives it a 67% and that's the critic score. And the audience gives it a 66%. Okay, the critics like this. 1% more that's a lot Metacritic gives it a 69 out of 10. No, no, sorry. 57 out of 10. Out of 100. Sorry, I wrote the thing twice for.

Cory:

It's 57 out of 100. Kind of fails on that one. That's a failing grade 3.7 out of 5 stars on the old letterboxed. And then Ebert Roger Ebert out of 4 stars, gave it 2. Wow, not a fan Did not think it was funny. And then finally, his entire review was just it was okay.

Nick:

Yeah. So it comes off to me that like, is this just another one of those scenarios where, like people our age loved it and everyone else is kind of like.

Cory:

I'm a little shocked to see that it pretty much just gets a D Right. It's pretty much just like it barely passes high school if this was being graded. It just it like essentially gets by on a 60.

Ash:

It's a loveable bat movie, I think.

Cory:

And it's very weird because it's very good and it seems like even like there's been multiple iterations of the Addams family all the way back to the show, the Black and White show, from the 60s Up until now. It's mainly animated. You know, the animated movies were okay, yeah.

Speaker 1:

The newest ones.

Cory:

The first one was really good, the second one not great, but it seems like this is actually the definitive family. Yes, and it's weird that the movie got kind of low scores, because it just seems like when you say Wednesday Addams, people go Kristen Orichi, right, and then in the next few days.

Nick:

you say they change it up now, but it took them 30 years to find another Wednesday Addams.

Cory:

Yeah, and they did, and it's genorte, and it remains to be seen, though, if she's going to be as like, if she's going to take the real mantle. True, right now, she's just a viral dance. There's only one scene from the entire show and you wouldn't like no, the dancing, of course, and so Ash hasn't seen it. Spoilers I've only seen the dance, that's all I've seen. And that's the reason why I don't like Gooseman as Gomez Adams.

Nick:

That's fair. You know he tries but it doesn't work. Like we're going to talk about. It's hard to find a great Gomez Adams After.

Ash:

Rauhulia. It's very hard to sort of come back, and I think originally he's meant to be a very stodgy person. Rauhulia made him. Yeah, I think Rauhulia made him charming. And sexy, and that's what I want.

Cory:

I don't want Gooseman, I want pure sex.

Ash:

We love you Lewis.

Cory:

Gooseman. I'd like to say that Gooseman isn't sexy in his own way. I'm sure there's a fan base out there that gets down on some of these, oh yeah for sure, no doubt.

Cory:

Well, so the critics just wrapping it up. The critics, they're okay with it. Just the critics ads are like that's a passable, watchable movie, but we know now, 20 years removed, that it's just incredible movie. The ad is going to be so good. It's going to be a really solid sequel that we may or may not be talking about in the future. So, since we're taking it to 1981, though we really need to get a feel of 1981 to see if the Adams family is going to fit well. I mean, we don't care if it does or not, but we might as well just see, Give it a shot. So, Ash, give me the top 10 at the box office in 1981. What were people going to see?

Ash:

Certainly, corey is quite an interest in top 10. So at number 10, we have Terry Gilliam's time band. It's great film. We haven't seen it. Number nine is the four seasons. Number eight for your eyes only Number seven is the classic chariot of fire. Number six is the cannonball run. Number five is the very funny Bill Murray and John Gandhi stripes. Number four is Arthur. Number three, surprisingly, is on Golden Pond, which is an interesting one.

Speaker 3:

How that one made it there.

Ash:

Number two. We have the debut of Indiana Jones Raiders of the Lost Ark. And number two, which is very surprising because the film that beat it in the worldwide box office in 1981 is Superman 2.

Cory:

Wow, not surprising at all, because Superman 2 is the better movie.

Ash:

So I take Superman 2 is better than Superman 1. So tuning on our blogs to find out, is it so?

Cory:

um, but OK, I think that it fits for no other reason that 1981 is just a completely diverse mix bank.

Nick:

It's a bonkers year. It's a great while.

Cory:

It's like it's. I mean the fact that Terry Gilliam had a top 10 movie ever shocks me.

Nick:

The fact that on Golden Pond is in top three Corey makes no sense because it's like weird Terry Gilliam.

Cory:

I'm guessing the four seasons is a biopic about four seasons. That's just a shot in the dark. Free your eyes. Only Is that?

Ash:

is that bond? That's bond right.

Cory:

That just sounds like a bond movie so and then it hits a biopic and then a string of comedies, which is where I think Adam Sambly might fit here.

Ash:

It's got a place in 1981.

Cory:

Two big action movies, but right in the middle there's a spot. There it's in on Golden Effing pond. It's wild to me. It's just too old people.

Ash:

It's made out of a pond $119 million. It grows worldwide. Yeah, that's a lot of money. That is a hundred million At least.

Cory:

at least $100 million is people who want their money back. So it is Wow, okay, all right, on Golden Pond, I think Adam's family will fit in there somewhere, yeah, for sure. And then it works. I think it works, nick.

Nick:

Yes.

Cory:

What were the cinephiles watching? We need to put on our bow ties. We need to put on our tuxedos, our dresses, if we so choose, and go hit the red carpet and check out the Oscar.

Nick:

So for the Oscars Corey, it took place the year after 1982, obviously, but this year's Oscars for this we have for supporting actress, marine Staplan in the movie Reds. For supporting actor, we've got John and Glee. Good for Arthur. Best actress, we have Catherine Hepburn in on Golden.

Cory:

Pond Serious.

Nick:

Best actor we have Henry Fonda for on Golden Pond oh Corey. It's a box office smash and an Oscar $100 million.

Cory:

Oh my gosh. I mean I get Henry Fonda and Catherine Hepburn or royalty, but man, that is okay. No, that's fine, Go on.

Nick:

So for best picture nominees we've got Reds Raiders of a Lost Ark Corey, atlantic City, not the winner on Golden Pond.

Cory:

I'll thank God.

Nick:

But the actual winner, Chariots of Fire. So yeah, if you don't know, it's the one, the slow motion song.

Speaker 3:

Exactly yeah that is pretty much all.

Nick:

Yeah, I've never seen it, but that's all I know for it. Ash, give us the quick Twitter size review of Chariots of Fire from your perspective.

Cory:

Yeah, Ash runs.

Ash:

Yeah, I mean it's about running, but it's sort of a side piece I think the music outlives. It's basically about two British track athletes One's like a determined Jew and the other's like a devoted Christian and they're driven to win the 1924 Olympics and they sort of wrestle with their inner emotions and it ends with this amazing scene that outlives the film itself, which is the famous soundtrack Great film. I think it was very emotional, different kind of film, really good.

Nick:

Yeah, it's definitely one of those scenes in cinema history that has just been done and lampooned to death, like, I think, every cartoon, every comedy has a scene where someone's running in slow motion and they get sideswiped by something or tripped up, and that's what we know it as now, and they had this thing on the magazine like 10 greatest scenes not film scenes and it came in number eight.

Ash:

I think is one of the greatest scenes in cinema history, which is crazy to think about. All the great scenes there, like Star Wars, luke, I'm your father, and all that. Yeah, yeah, still ranked in the list number eight, I can't remember what number one was, though.

Nick:

I have to look that up.

Cory:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Cory:

Maybe I'll watch it. Maybe I need to run first.

Nick:

Yeah, gotta do a good run. Maybe the double feature with Marathon man. You'll be running after the movie, for sure.

Cory:

So I love Running man yeah.

Ash:

What got the Arnold Schwarzenegger?

Cory:

one. Yeah, yeah, running man is my favorite.

Ash:

You'll actually run in one scene in that movie.

Cory:

Yeah, it's mostly not a lot of running.

Ash:

Running away from the game. Yeah.

Cory:

All right. So bringing the Addams family to 1981, how does the movie change? We always try to tackle this question. I really don't know if it changes a ton.

Nick:

Well, here's my perspective on it real quick. So, like me and Ash talked about in our mini-soad from Dust Till Dawn, check it out we went to the early 80s and the thing that we talked about and discussed was just how this is such a transitional period between the 70s and the 80s. It's not the 80s. They didn't find their groove yet. They're still going. What's this next decade going to look like? And so this is a very interesting and kind of weird period of cinema. Like you're getting your supermans and your Raiders of the Lost Arcs and stuff like that, but then you're getting like on Golden Pond and movies and stripes and comedies are starting to slowly become kind of like these bigger deals in cinema.

Nick:

So what's weird is that just glancing at it very quickly is like there's not a lot of like family oriented filmmaking going on. There's a lot of like teenage type stuff with Superman and Raiders, but it's adult humor and adult comedies and things like that. So I think it does fit. You could find a little room for this, but I think we've reached the point where because ET came out was it 82, I believe?

Ash:

Yeah, early 80s yeah.

Nick:

I think they haven't quite understood like how much of a bankable property and demographic family cinema is and so this is kind of like getting into that and I think it actually works because this movie does ride that hard line of dark comedy. So I think it will still generally stay the same and people will appreciate it maybe more critically because, it's not afraid to pull some punches on stuff you know.

Cory:

Yeah, it's a weird year because really, like, chuck Kloserman just wrote a book called the 90s and in his introduction he talks about how decades really don't start with January 1st of that decade. It's really like they sometimes start earlier, sometimes they start later. Like, obviously, he says the 90s don't start till Kurt Cobain dies, oh, or like you know, and so like, and it's like he's like he's like really it may have been the release of Nevermind, but it's like Nirvana is the start of the 90s.

Nick:

I would say the start yeah, nevermind release, probably is it.

Cory:

And then, and like the, 80s don't really start to 83. That's when MTV happens, that's when Prince hair metal all that stuff like thriller comes out. Everything changes in 1983. Being in 1981, we're still like it's the 80s but the 70s is still kind of got a stink on it.

Nick:

Star Wars is the thing.

Cory:

still it's almost like the Ramones and punk rock. We're keeping it going for a second.

Ash:

You find in a balance between like a transitional period, like a dark period in the 70s and this vibrant decade it's going to become right now and Adam's family is like somewhat staterical You've got like slapstick humor in the top 10 at the moment so easily find its place and it's an adaptation that was made in the 60s and what the Flintstones comes out in the early 90s and you get.

Ash:

you get in these kind of a sequels leading the box office at the moment. So it's definitely well placed. It's just depending how dark you go or how funny you go. It depends where the balance is in the 81 or is 91. You can probably get away with more comedy than darkness, which is what they did.

Cory:

That's true, yeah, yeah, no, it's, it's interesting.

Nick:

Well, Corey, so tell us, why did you pick this movie?

Cory:

I mean it really did have a lot to do with the fact that I knew like, as we were making our October schedule, it was like man, we're going pretty hard in the paint as we should Like that man, elm Street, fred 13, dustle Don.

Ash:

Smesse more black, smesse, more black. You're not.

Cory:

I was like. I was like we should lighten it up a little bit.

Nick:

Just a little. Just a little, not too Like we're not going full Disney Channel lighting it up, but we're going to give you a little. We're going to give you a McDonald's Happy Meal, yeah. Approved 90s movie.

Cory:

And I was like it'd be. I was like let's just just liven it up. And this is like it's weird. We stuck with horror and I feel like this is more Halloween.

Nick:

Yes, you know, that's what it is yeah, I think.

Ash:

I think this is more Halloween than a scary film. For sure, yeah.

Cory:

And so like I was like this is going to be one of our last episodes of the Halloween season, so I was like let's just go Adam's family, it's, and it's also it's fun because the characters are iconic, and so it's I feel like it's going to be really fun to cast it because it every character is its own distinct thing.

Ash:

Exactly.

Cory:

Gomez and how do you want to play Gomez and you want to do the the John Austin, sean Austin's father was the original.

Speaker 3:

The original from the. Tv show.

Cory:

Or do you want to go, yeah, the the Raul Julia route, and he's the this debonair guy you know yeah. And so, and then Morticia's its own thing, wednesday's its own thing, pugsley it's his own thing, and so I'm just I think it'd be really fun to catch. Sure, yes, it's characters individual characters. Yeah, we get to play with a lot of character actors this episode.

Nick:

We do. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. That's the tricky part of it.

Cory:

Yeah, so you just really got to like, get, I think, creative. I'm excited to see how you guys got creative because 81 second be necessarily the most friendly year.

Nick:

It's not just spoiler alert. It's not. There's a reason we have a come here again.

Ash:

We're killing some stuff there, for sure.

Cory:

Yeah yeah, I mean like I don't have like a really distinct other than I just love the movie. It came out 91. I was like six going on seven.

Nick:

Did you watch it in theaters or did you? I wouldn't have seen it in theaters.

Cory:

No, I would have seen it.

Ash:

Did any of you know about the TV series in the 60s before watching the 90s version of the 90s film?

Cory:

I did know about it because I was a really weird kid that watched like when Nickelodeon went off the air. Yeah, I still watch Nick at night. I didn't change the channel I had. So I got down on some welcome back codder and some get smart, and the Adams family was in that rotation.

Ash:

Yeah, cause we like to ask the arsonic and old lace. I remember you say you love that film and that's very. I love our sonic and old lace and that's kind of the vibe you get with with Adam's family. So it's very much the same kind of vibe yeah very dark comedy kind of thing going on that's taken like light-heartedly. So yeah, the 60s show is good.

Cory:

We should have done our. City girl, I blew it.

Ash:

We should have done our old lace Harry Grant's best film, Honestly let's start over.

Cory:

Let's start over. We're taking. We're taking tan. You guys are gonna.

Ash:

Okay.

Nick:

There's no kids. That helps, that does help.

Cory:

Man, our signal is this gonna be yeah, I just have the same vibe and I do, I like, I like the whole dark vibe, I like the, the family that Exists in this dark world, in a very vibrant world. But it's a little sad that we're not in the total pure 80s yet. Yeah, it would have been, it would have been more of a contrast if we were like an 87.

Nick:

Yeah, it would have been a bit. We've been a very different movie at that point.

Ash:

Yeah, it would have done a good like sort of stereotype. It's difficult like juxtaposition, and the really good thing about the Adams family as dark and like barbaric as they are, they're actually nice people. They're not evil. Everyone yeah, everyone just doesn't like them because they're different and there's quite an interesting message there. But they're nice people. They just like random stuff.

Cory:

That seems to be a bit, yes, crazy and I'm glad you brought that up, because I think sometimes that message gets lost on. It does, and, on this, of the movie is that what it is it's like. These are people that like dark stuff, but they're incredibly nice, loving people. Yes and it's very much challenging that whole, like I guess a A leadest mindset of just because someone's different, that you know they're bad and yeah. I. It does have that great message that I don't think gets enough credit.

Ash:

Not sure?

Cory:

Um, I will say this the last thing I'll say. I think one of the ways this movie does change that maybe we missed out is in 81 is the soundtrack is gonna drive it.

Nick:

Let's drive it.

Cory:

Yeah, we're in the air of soundtracks in the early Coming off of the Saturday night like fever stuff, the grease stuff, you know we're the like really sells the stuff, but it's about a heavy metal was just born, in the 70s true. And so, like you could do so much with black Sabbath and kiss and like these in, like those types of bands.

Nick:

We have a few times for it. Yeah well, you're definitely not getting vanilla ice on a boombox in this version. This is true.

Cory:

This is true. We will not get vanilla ice here.

Nick:

You might get the sugar hill gang. I don't know if they're On the timeline or not imagine it's you to the song as well.

Cory:

Yeah, I think, I think what you'd get your Alice Cooper, your black Sabbath, your kiss, like yeah, stop the horse, I'm into it, yeah. I think, I think that would be a huge part of the soundtrack. All right, cool, cool. Well, is it time, corey, I think it's time to cast this thing.

Ash:

Oh, okay.

Cory:

I'm all jazzed for it. Let's go, let's go, let's do this 1981.

Speaker 3:

We're gonna have to catch those. You have arrived.

Ash:

All right, that's sure you ready? I think so, but we're gonna be burning a lot of stuff down here. But yeah, let's go for it.

Cory:

It's fun. That's why we do the, that's why we decide the movie first, because then you start second guessing everything you did.

Cory:

Well, I Chose this movie and so I'm the director, which means I have sent a cast list to Nick and to Ash and said give me 1981 actors give me a great 1981 Adams family movie and They've put their cast list and they're gonna we're gonna go roll by roll, actor by actor, and they're gonna pitch me the actor they put in these roles. And, however, you can't just do it every one. We have rules. If time travel movies have taught us anything, you just don't get a time machine consequence free. That's true. So we put rules into place. Rule number one anyone y'all chosen for Adams family 1981 Must be alive in 1981. It's true.

Speaker 1:

They cannot be dead.

Cory:

They cannot be deceased. We don't use the time machine for such macaw purposes. Rule number two anyone you cast must be essentially not in prison or in war. They must be available or pregnant. Yeah or pregnant.

Ash:

There's loose rules. That's a loose rule we Case by case basis has, and so like if they had the baby in january like.

Cory:

Hollywood forced them to get thin in two weeks. Oh god, some director producer said, all right, smoke these cigarettes and lose that way. Yeah, sadie, one Harsh times. Rule number three anyone you cast in Adams family 1981 must be active. They must have at least one acting credit on imdb in 81 or sooner. We can't discover new talent, got it.

Cory:

And then finally rule number four anyone you cast in this 1981 version of the Adams family, we'll lose all major film credits from that year. We are tyrants and we don't allow them to be in multiple projects.

Speaker 3:

True, you got to devote.

Cory:

there they're got a method act, this Adams family movie, and we want to main character for a year and not distract. Yeah, so that's it, commitment. And then I, as the director just in case you two losers mess this up I get two power-ups.

Speaker 1:

Okay, you know.

Cory:

It's just clean up, you know, in case y'all any massive mistakes here. My first power-up is I can do the old switcheroo at any point in the casting. I can like take any two actors that have been chosen and placed on the board and I can switch them in the respective roles. And then and then my second power-up, the better power-up, the real power-up where the real power is Is I can override. If you guys at any point I say your choice sucked and your choice sucked, or hey, I like this role too much that I've already got my guy or my lady, I could override you to tell you to take yours back and I can put mine in play. But I can only do that once and it must do it during the actual casting.

Cory:

I can't do that retroactively. It's got to happen right then. So are you guys ready to cast the Adams family? I think so, from 1981.

Ash:

Yeah, I think I'm ready. I think I'm ready for this.

Cory:

We are. We are in 1981. We are stepping out of the time machine and we're like this looks a lot like the 70s A lot of rush, a lot of rush music, all right, so. All right. So we do do a 30 seconds or less, which here we only got three characters. There's three characters that we love, we think are great, but we just don't have enough time to really dive into them, or maybe the characters themselves don't have enough screen time to really just dive deep into. Those three characters are lurch, who is the frankenstein butler yes, played originally by correll. Uh, tricky in, I believe. He is obviously in men in black as the acrylic and he's also in twin peaks. He plays the guy in the courtroom in the jail that you will see all the time is clickbait In articles that are like most dangerous criminals of all time.

Cory:

Yes and you see that guy and you're like who's that guy? Then you find out it's just some dude from 20. That guy's not real. I like that so um, we also have granny, played by judith melina, um, who, uh, in the secret of my success and dog day afternoon great movie, um, and then totally offered, played by just one of the greatest characters of all time, dan hadaya. It's good of the usual sex specs, clueless and one of my personal faves, first wives club, also in shears, had a recurring role on shears.

Ash:

That's not a from.

Speaker 3:

Ray pearlman's husband.

Cory:

He was a deadbeat in that he's got a lane. It's usually playing the deadbeat husband, not a pipe, so I. I do love that respect.

Nick:

I do love that he plays plays the lawyer here and but also again playing into like the insanity of this Movie is that they immediately start sword fighting. I'm sorry, it just feels natural and it works, it is.

Cory:

And it's it's weird. His character is very similar and, like at the exact same time as this, we had casper come out within like the same Generally you know he's right again. Yeah, kid's movie, christina richie, but like there's a lawyer character played by eric idol and I'm always like this is the exact same character.

Nick:

Yeah, that's for 95. So it's like four years later, it's like we've done this before.

Ash:

Both are great. Yeah, both are great yeah.

Cory:

So, all right, we're gonna do, we're gonna knock this 30 seconds or less out. We love these characters. We just don't have the time, or really the characters all have pretty low screen time anyway. So Lurch doesn't even speak. So Not a whole lot to do there, all right. So I'm gonna name the, I'm gonna, I'm gonna call out the role. You guys will rapid fire me your picks. And uh, nick, you'll go first. All right, ready.

Nick:

Five, four, three, two one Lurch Richard keel from moon raker and happy Gilmore fame.

Ash:

Okay, I like that. Uh, I've gone with the original lurch because he's actually the same age as in one that's playing there ted castley from the 60 series.

Cory:

Oh, okay, okay, I have to go, richard keel, because the original lurch was dead in 1981. What he died in 1979. Oh, oh my gosh.

Nick:

Oh no.

Ash:

Started off with a killer.

Speaker 3:

As we're very clear about the rules.

Cory:

We can't bring it back, we're dead. Everyone's literally no dead actress.

Ash:

Right, I'm just gonna get one thing straight here. Ted castley, I thought it was alive.

Cory:

Uh, what's really?

Ash:

Yeah, he died in 79. Oh my gosh.

Cory:

You know he was, so he was dead in 81 years body's fresh it's a halloween movie oh, we could be happy lines, we could be great.

Nick:

I'm sorry 79.

Cory:

Yeah, so All right. Wait, he quit filming in 79, but he was alive.

Ash:

Yeah.

Cory:

Is that what you're telling me? No, no, I'll make it up. I'll make it up to back up my case. Okay, all right, all right, all right, granny.

Nick:

Okay, For granny I have may questrel of christmas vacation fame, but she's also the voice of betty boop and olive oil.

Ash:

All right. Uh, this one's definitely like this one's, virginia mayo. Uh, you might not know, but she's in a film called Skeletal me, called the man next door. Uh, she plays a very creepy woman and she was also in white heat. We've seen that. Very interesting for the film, white heat.

Cory:

Yeah, like the james cadney movie. Yes, that's right. Okay, I'm trying to remember. Oh my gosh, 30 seconds or less, but I've seen white.

Ash:

He, I've seen it.

Cory:

I've seen it recently. Oh my gosh, um, I don't know. Make a pic.

Speaker 3:

Virginia mayo Virginia man.

Cory:

What do you go with it? So all right, all right, all right. Okay, finally, tolly alford nick, go In one of his last roles John belushi. That's not bad. That's not bad ash I have gone is on the board, luce.

Ash:

I like him All right. Well, I've gone slightly younger but definitely always looks about the same age. I've gone for henry winkler, always with, uh, adam sarner and the water boy. He was a principal. Scream Um and yeah. He's got that very kind of like hateable look about him.

Cory:

I'm absolutely going, henry winkler. Oh my god, I want the heel turn.

Nick:

Out of the winkler.

Cory:

Is he still playing bonzie at this point? I don't know, but it's great. Oh my gosh. I mean, if he is, he just jumped the shark literally literally jump.

Nick:

it went to 84. So he's, he's in mid, so he needs a heel turn here. He's a hillturn, he does?

Cory:

He needs to stop hanging out with high schoolers and go?

Speaker 3:

be a sleazy.

Cory:

Lawyer. Oh my gosh, henry winkler is going to be so much fun in that. Belushi's good. It's just like kind of like on the note, I can see it. Yeah, I can see belushi doing that. I want to like, I want to just see the live in the creativity of Henry winkler.

Ash:

That's fair playing this very out of and also, it's just it's.

Cory:

Henry winkler is one of those like actors.

Ash:

That's a genuinely good dude, that's true and so like, and he'll have fun with a sword fight as well. He'll have a fun time of the sword fight, yes.

Cory:

It'll be fun. He'll have so much fun. Oh my gosh, that's great. Oh, we're off to a good start, this movie.

Ash:

Uh, speak for yourself. I had somebody.

Cory:

Ash tried to break rule number one, but he's testing that as a quonsum recast first, honestly, do you? Think it was. But okay, so we're gonna move on to our main cast, and I will read the main cast Right now Abigail Craven, which is our, our main villain, right.

Ash:

Yeah, uh.

Cory:

Wednesday Adams. Most people, if you don't know, her middle name is Friday. Her whole name is Wednesday, friday Adams, interesting, and so, uh, then we have, uh, pugsley Adams as well. So we have the siblings Okay, uncle fester, yeah, morticia Adams and Gomez Adams. So we have the Adams family in the villain, essentially got the creepy, we got the spooky all together kooky.

Nick:

They're all spooky.

Cory:

Yeah, and so. Adams, all right, all right. So we're gonna start off with our villain here. Okay, abigail Craven, your brother returns.

Speaker 1:

You feel guilty, you displace, I do the feelings in your brain cells. They bubble and collide. You suspect things. You love him but you resent him. Love, hate, hate. Love Like for mama. No, but I didn't hate my mother, it was an accident.

Cory:

Who is um? She just shows up and she, uh Gosh, I don't. I'm not even sure if I understand her plan.

Nick:

Her plan is to basically convince the Adams that Uncle fester is uncle fester because she's, he's the, you know he's the son. Yeah, she's convinced him that she, he's her son and they're gonna steal the Adams family fortune using the lawyer.

Cory:

Yeah.

Nick:

And it's all like the shoe in of like, as long as we could convince them, he'll know the secret of where the fortune's hiding at, and then they steal the money, because here's the thing she wants money.

Cory:

She wants money, yeah, she wants money because here's the thing I never know if the movie really reveals like is uncle fester A fake relative who just enters the family, or did she find an actual long-lost Adams and use him to get access?

Nick:

So I had the same thought and yesterday I'm glad I rewatched it because it does reveal that it is him. How so? Because it's it's a slow burn, because you know, obviously, like it's set up where he's, it's like no, he's not, he's a fake, he's imposter, and the entire time it's him pretending and the kids kind of figure it out, but then him bonding with the family like reawakens, his uncle, fester and us, and you could kind of see it in his performance I don't we're talking about no, he does well, yeah, and then incredible.

Nick:

But by the end she kind of it's. It's not like it's not really set out loud, but it is kind of set out because she says the line like I should have left you where I found you.

Cory:

Okay, so she saw it out.

Nick:

Yeah, okay and then also at the end of the movie, granny tells him like, and he, he and granny have a conversation where he's like, yeah, all my memories came back and she's like, yeah, a strike of lightning is all it took when he opened the book at the store. Yeah, that's right Okay because I had that same thought too. It was like is he Actually?

Cory:

I've always had that thought.

Ash:

I mean it's up for discussion still. So they haven't outright said this is uncle fester. It still could be the the.

Nick:

There's some leeway there, but it kind of is spelled out but it's kind of not. So they have fun with it I mean it's fun.

Cory:

It's interesting because, honestly, the adams family, they, they change the actual relations from cartoon to show to a movie. Uncle are in the original comic, I guess, um, by charles adams. Yes, uh, he's actually granny's brother. Okay and granny's actually Morticia's mom, but, in the mood or no, she's gomez's mom.

Ash:

Yes, and so yeah, uncle fester should be More tissues, his brother.

Cory:

Yeah.

Ash:

Got it.

Nick:

Okay.

Cory:

Yeah, so it's like weird, they change it a lot and so in the movie Granny's actually more Tisha's mom, and Uncle Fester is Gomez's brother.

Ash:

That's right, yeah, but they change it, it's wild.

Cory:

I feel like this should be the canonical version. It's just this one's canon. You know, not to, not to, not to crap on Charles Adams. Actual, the creator Charles did good, we just, you know we did a better. Drawings I should say. Abigail Craven is played by Elizabeth Wilson, very famous for the graduate nine to five in quiz show. Nine to five is such a great movie. It's wild that I'm concentrating on nine to five out of quiz show and the graduate quiz show. All right. So, Ash, I'll let you go first.

Ash:

Oh God, okay, I'll go first. Okay, so a nice character, one outside of the family. I went for someone who is going to have a gimmick for this movie. This movie's got a bit of satirical nature to it so I thought let me bring in a pop culture reference in 1981. So I have brought the very definition of scream queen into this role. And she was just in a film where she looks very old as well, even though she's only 44. But if you put a bit of makeup on her, which they had in 1981, you'll definitely look, make a little older. She was in the fog the year before of John Carpenter with her daughter, jamie Lee Curtis. I give you psychos, janet Lee and, I think, a. I wanted someone iconic in a horror movie to play someone who is going against type in a film. That's the satiricals, the Adams family. I just like the idea of her naggy, because she's very naggy in the fog and she's and she looks quite old in that movie for someone who was 43 at the time.

Ash:

So I think she can definitely have the appearance of a mother and I just like the fact that she is, you know, psycho, she is the you know Marion Crane, and I think that's sort of a cool like pop culture reference. I think I wanted to add to the Adams family in 1981. But yeah, I'll bring you Janet Lee.

Cory:

Nobody's nobody alive whose peak years were the 60s and 70s, came out looking young.

Nick:

No hard drugs. A lot of hard drugs, a lot of stress.

Cory:

Smoking was healthy. Of course it was yeah nobody came out looking great, so all right, all right, okay, I don't hate it, nick. Nick Janet Lee, the original screen queen, is on the board, okay.

Nick:

I'm going to go slightly different way, but I'm bringing you she's TV's beloved grandmother from murder. She wrote Mrs Potts and Beauty and the Beast and, in back of the day, manchurian candidate. I'm bringing you Angela Lansbury, Corey, oh wow. Now previously on this podcast there had been a conversation where I was on the opposite side of this, where I was like she can't play a villain role, and then I saw her in Sweeney Todd the musical and I went okay, I was wrong.

Cory:

No, I should be. That's fair, that's fair so.

Nick:

I want that energy a little bit. I want some. I want some heel turn Angela Lansbury, some meat pies, make an Angela Lansbury thrown in here and I think she'll just have a lot of fun really eating up, chewing up scenery with her musical Broadway sensibilities.

Cory:

Are you telling me we've heel turned Angela Lansbury on this podcast before we have? Do you remember what it was for? I don't Okay.

Nick:

You just know you lost. I just know I lost. Okay, and I've learned a lesson, corey, that's fair.

Ash:

Maybe we should go down that route again.

Cory:

That's okay. Here's my thing. I'm like I want to heel turn Angela Lansbury, but I'm like we've done this before. I don't want to be redundant, exactly, exactly.

Nick:

So the keep thinking about it, Corey Keep thinking about it.

Cory:

Oh my gosh, it's royalty versus royalty here.

Nick:

It looks like she may not have won.

Cory:

Oh, so you convinced me not to heel turn Lansbury, I guess so.

Nick:

You got an A.

Ash:

I was very impressive with my. She's so nice, though she's too nice, exactly.

Cory:

Here's how I'll make this decision.

Nick:

Can she do a Russian accent? Probably Either, oh, I was like I don't know.

Cory:

Now we can have that. It's good to come down to who who who has who. I think will be more fun with Henry Winkler Okay. And it's going to be Lansbury. No, we're going to get the double heel turn.

Ash:

And Winkler one. My last point on this matter Can you just imagine her screaming and being captivated by to hear her just screaming, like she was in the shower? True.

Nick:

The end of the movie Janet gently would be.

Cory:

Yeah, I get it, it's great. It was a great pick. It wasn't a trash pick like Paul Gleason for Iron man, but it was Angela Lansbury and Henry Winkler as the dual villains. Here is just, it's my cup of tea.

Nick:

Okay, it's 100% my god, I love it.

Cory:

That's, and and I do think that Angela Lansbury plays like she's very bitchy and bed knobs and root Bromstice she is. Yeah, I'm like she's really mean to these.

Ash:

She does have that face, but she's always nice, sometimes like generally nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cory:

All right, let's move on. Let's move on, let's hop on to Pugsley Adams.

Speaker 3:

Somebody else. It has to warm up. Why? So it can kill you.

Cory:

I knew that the the lesser known of the Adams children, kind of kind of the Where's the black and white sweater played by Jimmy workman and Nick. You've brought up other work he's done, which I would have been shocked that if you told me he did other work. Yeah, I mean he was in the sequel. He was in as good as it gets. He was in Star Trek in 2009.

Nick:

That's why basically he's a technical staff guy. Now he switched over to behind the camera. He said I want to be on the other side. He's like I'm tired of this everybody.

Cory:

Yeah, okay, I get it. I get it. Pugsley Adams is. He is just as much of a as wild and macabre for the Adams family, but he's kind of the punching bag for Wednesday.

Nick:

That was gonna be the word I would use punching bag.

Cory:

It's mainly he's just like. He's like there for Wednesday to experiment.

Nick:

He's a pin cushion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I can very willing one?

Cory:

I think absolutely so it's, that's like his thing. He's like like he's.

Nick:

He's sitting in the electric chair, not even once Questioning it. And then mom and Morticia comes up and she's like, and they're like, please, please.

Cory:

Wednesday's a Dom, pugsley's a sub, but with no ancestral undertones.

Nick:

Corey, it's the internet, I'm just. You've unlocked it.

Cory:

They, they develop their kinks early, and so All right, but yeah, there's not a whole lot to say. Other than that's his whole thing is he's just very much the, the very fun little brother that lets the. I guess I don't know who's younger or older.

Nick:

Really to find it's almost like the Griswold.

Ash:

Yeah, it changes from movie to yeah, yeah, maybe twins actually. Okay, they're meant to be twins.

Cory:

Oh, okay.

Ash:

Charles Adam never even gave them names. Only until the series came out that they add the names. So Charles Adam's only just did the drawings. So the Wednesday and Gomez and Morticia was made up by a producer in the 60s.

Cory:

Charles Adam truly phone this in Um they are not twins.

Nick:

Wednesday is the elder sister of. That's what the internet says.

Cory:

All right? Um, okay, I guess we'll. We'll see if that stays. Okay, we'll see if that stays casting children on this podcast is a menace. Yes, and rarely do we ever nail ages down, so it could change something to change. All right, nick, you made it, I do. You made the Angelo Linsbury shot, so, um, who is your Pugsley Adams?

Nick:

Corey, you're gonna get excited, so get excited. Oh, but I'm bringing you your boy. One of the two C's a Corey Feldman, that's right. People know him from standby me the Lost Boys, the Goonies and the Burbs for those of you, deep divers I love. But I think he's gonna be a little different flavor here. He's gonna be a younger Corey Feldman, but that's I did really enjoy, like the fact that they were like kids, like pure kids, not teenagers, not preteens like they're. I enjoyed that energy that they brought to the movie in that, because I was tempted to go older and pull some people, but I was like no, it's more fun when they're like actual kids. So I think, corey, he's right in this era where he's about to pop into the Friday the 13th franchise, which we talked about. So I think that it's gonna be a lot of fun to also throw him in here as well. He's not afraid of the weird.

Cory:

Type of movies. Corey Feldman's. He's like the opposite of wine. The younger you go with Corey, the better.

Nick:

Okay, it's kind of that's kind of how Philman's career. I wasn't sure where you're going with that metaphor.

Cory:

The younger the younger and further you go back with film in, the better.

Nick:

He was a phenomenal kid actor, like he's he's great, and now he's Michael Jackson impersonator, basically.

Cory:

Yeah, he's the comeback king, so Sure, sure, I mean, we're talking about him.

Nick:

Yeah.

Cory:

Yeah, sure, okay, uh, still means on the board, ash. Um, who are you countering with?

Ash:

I mean the word counter is very funny here because I'm going completely opposite, um, of Nick's choice. I like Corey Feldman. I'm I I'm changing this entire setup of Adams family. I mean, I'm doing some things that I'm gonna get like chastisement here. I wanted someone a bit older. I like the teenage aspect of it. Actually, I kind of want to see what they oh, so he's 15 years old at the time, same age as my Wednesday, to come to it as well. Um, I just like the fact with Tim Burton's Wednesday that you get to see more of a development ever. Anyway, a Pugsley, like you said, is sort of the least developed person. They's probably the least favorite, the one of the least personality. Everyone else has got a bit of a flare about them and Pugsley is sort of the punching bags.

Ash:

I wanted to introduce Pugsley with a bit of provado, with a bit of strength. So I've casted someone who could probably do that and I've casted someone that is basically a Wednesday at a male Wednesday, adams. So I've gone a bit that way. So I give you a free agent at the time and, thanks to his father, he's been in a few films prior to this year. A Robert Downey Jr, years old at this time Before, but if you look at him, if you look at him at 16 years old, he is a perfect fit for an Adams family. You just have to look it in the black hair, the Gothic eyes, and I want him to go against type with Pugsley. I want him to bring Pugsley into the realms of how popular Wednesday is. So I want to reinvent this role, because Pugsley never really gets any Attention or popularity. I think it's all given to Wednesday and I kind of want it to be shared between the two. So yeah, I've got a bit weird with this one and gone Robbie Downey Jr. So RDJ is on the table.

Cory:

Okay, okay. So Robert Downey Jr Also. The younger you go, the more doughy his face is, and so it kind of works.

Nick:

I see that, yeah, literally here yeah especially like I.

Cory:

Okay, I also just recently rewatched the most depressing of the Brat Mac films, which is less than zero. Yes, because it's just about him being addicted to drugs and Essentially being forced into gay prostitution to feed his habit. Yikes. But in half the movie he's got, like the like makeup under the eyes to blacken his eyes. Yeah, it would work, okay.

Speaker 3:

It would work yeah.

Cory:

I got to take four years off of that or no, actually six years off of less years. Keep the like really drugged out. Look, which in 87, it wasn't a look he was, he was really doing drugs, but an 81, probably not, hopefully. Okay, so it's between a child Feldman, yes, who's like what? Eight, yeah, or a teenage Pugsley, and I'm assuming. I'm not. I'm not really sure how I get to, like necessarily what questions I'm allowed to ask, but I'm assuming you're stuck with the ages for your Wednesday. Okay, all right, nick, you're gonna be mad, but I just I'm gonna go. Robert Downey Jr here. Oh, I want a teenage.

Nick:

Pugsley interesting. I don't know how I feel about that.

Cory:

Honestly, I want a teenage Pugsley because I'm interested to see if y'all brought a younger Wednesday, because I don't know that I hate. I would hate the dynamic of little sister With the boxing around the other brother brother huh, interesting dynamic Okay. I'm not okay, but I mean it gets. It depends on who you're gonna say so.

Nick:

All right, just pieces off the board. So that's what we've got.

Cory:

Okay, yeah, I took my hand off, I'm yeah. We're gonna see it. All right, let's move on to Wednesday, adam.

Speaker 3:

Is this made from real lemons? Yes, I only like all natural fruits and beverages, organically grown, with no preservatives. I'll buy a cup if you buy a box of my delicious Girl Scout cookies. Do we have a deal? Are they made from real Girl Scouts?

Cory:

All right, let's just yeah, I need, this is a pairing and so we need to just hop into this Wednesday. I'm very famously right now being portrayed by general Vega, but in 1991 she was played by oh my gosh, christina Richie. Like she is like the I don't know, she's just the poster child for hot topic. Yeah, it's like. I think whoever created hot topic just looked at Christina Richie and said people want to dress like that. It's like why don't a writer?

Nick:

if we can make a style built around this aesthetic yeah, this dark Gothic aesthetic.

Cory:

It was the second coming of one on a writer. It's like. It's like Burton ditched writer for Christina Richie. I'll need a bottom quarters. Is the older one? True, so true. Oh my gosh, it's like the trifecta there. Oh my gosh, we need a type we need a witch movie based around these, these three people, and just keep Jenna or take out of it.

Nick:

I'm a little so which is a Eastwick remake? So oh yeah keep Jack Nichols yeah.

Cory:

Oh, for sure, for sure, all right. Christina Richie Obviously, we've discussed it. Casper 1995 she's in Speed Racer 2008. She's in sleepy hollow 1999. She's right now killing it on yellow jackets. I'm a TV show, and I think she she's in the Wednesday show, isn't she?

Ash:

Yes, yeah, she's a role, natural ironic role in that.

Cory:

Yeah, all right, so we have Robert Downey Jr. I need a Wednesday. Adams, ash, you made it, give me your Wednesday.

Ash:

Yeah. So this is someone else who I think everyone will know now, who had a very good career leading up to present day. Francis Ford Coppola called her his favorite actress I breathe and the reason I've picked this actress is because I saw a picture of her when she was 16 and she's got pigtails and all you have to do is dye her black and she looks the part and she's got a bit of sasta her. You may know her from Justice League, a super hand, superman's mom, or Robin Williams mom in Jack or Unfaithful. I'm giving you a 16 year old who was used to marry to Josh Rowling. Diane Lane Dang is beautiful, a very, very gorgeous woman. Yeah, but in 1981 she was 16 years old and there was a film I can't remember it's one of things called child bride of short and of short Creek and she looks exactly like Wednesday and that's the reason she does and she's got that.

Ash:

Arms folded kind of thing. I can see her doing that.

Nick:

Corey, I know what you're, I know you're, I know what you're thinking and I just want to let you know it's okay. Streets of fire isn't till 1984.

Cory:

I was very saying. I came like we're a streets fair falling on this time. Yeah you named a lot of stuff she's known for, but we know her from streets of fire.

Nick:

Yeah, this year she's just in a TV movie called child bride of short short of short Creek, that's right.

Ash:

Yeah, tv, so round the movie. So she's almost a free agent besides that TV movie. But, yeah, I, I always grew up watching her from Jack, that Robin Williams film and she was the mom. Yeah, that random film. Jennifer Lopez as well. Okay, all right.

Cory:

It works. If I want two teenage children, it works. But, nick, give me your Wednesday. Okay, corey.

Nick:

Tell me so. I messaged you earlier this week because I was bemoaning the difficulty of finding it in my definition a child actress.

Cory:

Oh, you were trying to get me to change rules on this. Plus I was. I was down the list.

Nick:

I went through the list. I sit there going like I can't find anybody for this age range because I was. I was playing into that same range 10, 10 and down a Little bit, but like when known a writer, hello, bob Carter, goller, carla Gujino, molly Ringwald, allie Sheedy none of them have a credit in the early 80s. They don't get started till like a year or two later. Even so, I'm just sitting there going through. I've like I've run out of names and I'm just hunting and hunting. So I finally found, you know her from natural born killers, from dusk till dawn. Oh, in the 80s Christmas vacation, I've given you an eight-year-old, juliet Lewis.

Cory:

Juliet Lewis was acting she was.

Nick:

She has a credit.

Ash:

Which I found eight years old.

Nick:

As a Very young age she had a credit in 81. In 81 she's in 80. She's doing Bronco, billy home fires a TV movie and and that's and she doesn't have a credit in 81, but in 80 she has credits.

Ash:

Is that?

Nick:

a credit. I'm sorry, but I think she just in 1980 it's Bronco Billy's her first credit and that's pretty pretty much yet until 87. But but it counts, just uncredited child spectator.

Ash:

Yes, it's still counts.

Nick:

It's an IMTV credit. Oh, it counts. This is how much I had to dig. I didn't go teenager and that was probably my mistake, but I'm staying out of the form of the technicalities of the rules.

Cory:

Okay, there's a thing Again. I just watched less than zero, okay, and, and the best thing in that entire movie is towards the end of Robert Downey Jr Interacts with an eight-year-old girl and he's just being really sweet. He's at the end of his rope, he knows he needs to get off drugs or it's gonna kill him and he pretty much knows he's gonna die. Yeah, it's the most touching scene in the whole movie. I'm going. Juliet Lewis yes, the dynamic of an eight-year-old, juliet Lewis, strapping a 15, 60 year-old Robert Downey Jr into an electric chair and all that. It works so much better it's so much better.

Ash:

It's so much better this, this the role she was in in 1980, I mean Uncredited a technicality.

Cory:

Yes, it counts. We define it as at least acting credit.

Nick:

You don't know how long I spent hunting for an actress.

Ash:

I'm getting a feeling of how it was long.

Cory:

I love this. I did not know less than zero was gonna come into play, so much.

Ash:

Well, it did what I watched it. This, I mean, I like it. I like it All right.

Cory:

Let's okay. So we're in our top three here. Sweet, and I'm actually tempted to go a little bit out of order here. Okay, I actually want to skip up to Morticia Adams an open grave Was my first funeral.

Speaker 3:

You were so beautiful, pale and mysterious.

Speaker 1:

No one even looked at the corpse. Your cousin Baldizar, you're still a suspect.

Cory:

I couldn't stop staring at you all through the eulogy and let's be honest, morticia doesn't have a lot to do in the movie. Yeah, no other than she's. I mean, she's there a presence, she's a present.

Nick:

She's not as dialogue heavy as the others, but she it's more about, yeah, her being in a lot of scenes with me. Yeah, she's quietly dominant.

Cory:

Yes, but the two leads are Gomez and Fester, so I'm just gonna leave those two for last, because the whole movie is about their brotherhood or suppose it's better that's fair. So I'm gonna bring in Morticia who is excellently, by the way, because I'm not down playing no.

Nick:

Houston is Into this movie, kind of thinking, like you know and Joe, I don't even remember much about hers, but on this rewatch I was like, oh, she's doing so much with so little she is Every scene.

Ash:

She's in every oh my gosh.

Cory:

Yes and it's, it's so much they do the lighting on just the eyes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, great yeah it's.

Cory:

She is the quintessential Morticia Adams hundred, arguably gonna be one of the hardest ones, maybe next to Raul, but possibly the toughest one to recast here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because of her performance.

Cory:

Yeah, played by Angelica Houston. The grifters, the witches, ever after. She's the daughter of John Houston, she dated Jack Nicholson forever. She's awesome, yes, she's incredible. And so Morticia Adams is the mom, she's great, the lover of Gomez, mom to Wednesday and Pugsley, and she is very much. Nick just said it, she's just a presence. Yeah, that's the character. It's just when she's in the room, it's all eyes on and all it's all comes off natural.

Nick:

Yeah, that's the heart, because I think there's a lot of Morticia Adams that we've seen in later installments and stuff.

Cory:

It's like they just don't have it the beauty of Angelica Houston as Morticia Adams and just the character itself Is. Everyone else is so over the top and she is so not. Yes, she's just pure bike sex. She's just so sexy by just being there. There's a lot of sex in this family movie. There is.

Speaker 3:

Subtext you sex.

Cory:

So but she is, she's just super attractive, super like it. But I mean she just so much was a little so good luck to you both. Nick, you made it, I did.

Speaker 3:

Juliet Lewis.

Cory:

So you did.

Nick:

Corey, I'm. I might be going off on a leaf here, but I'm going with the big name big 70s name.

Cory:

Oh my gosh.

Nick:

Um, I just want you to think of the only tall, dark-haired woman thin, you didn't do it from the 70s, cory bringing you share, why wouldn't I? She's right there, 67, she was in the man from uncle good times, the young animals, and she's known for her Oscar win in Moonstar. What was the Barry?

Cory:

say she's not like, she's a great actress actually burlesque mermaids mask. That's what I gotta do. I gotta like, I gotta separate, I gotta remove modern-day share life after love right from my brain.

Nick:

You need 80s share. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's ask all right out. You know it's hard to find. You can't get it on streaming services right now. It's so hard.

Cory:

It's Eric Stoltz and shared and and Sam Elliott just firing on all. All right, share. I hated it when you said it, but now, like I'm thinking, I'm being in the air at 81 and no, it's actually it's. It works. It's well, okay, I just had to kill some biasness, ash. Yes here's on the board. What do you have?

Ash:

Well, after that soul crushing decision on the last round myself up here Rebound rebound come on.

Ash:

Right. So it's funny you should mention Jack Nicholson because this actress is very linked to Jack Nicholson. This is the year after she did probably the two most famous films. She's known for Starring alongside Jack Nicholson and Robin Williams and these two films and I think this film will serve as therapy because of the awful time she had shooting with Stanley Kubrick in the shining. I Give you Shelley Deval. She's tall, she's sassy, the dark hair, she shows the confidence and Popeye, she has that vulnerability in In the shining but she really puts her face that you know she can. She can hold her own with Jack Nicholson and she can definitely hold her own with Stanley Kubrick and I can see that fire in her and I feel like she needs this role as sort of a To get over what happened on the shining, from that pretentiousness of Kubrick's dark side.

Speaker 1:

So we need to bounce her back into like a list status.

Ash:

The one bad thing, though, corey, is I am taking her out of time bandits, that's right. Oh, and I mean it's a film with Sean Connery playing King Agamemnon and John Cleese playing Robin Hood. So it's a crazy film, but it's worth the risk. It's worth the risk.

Nick:

So yeah, shelley Deval, I'll give you yeah, shining and Popeye the year before she kind of she kind of just doesn't do much of huge note after 81.

Cory:

Yeah, because she was traumatized as they say like I mean right.

Nick:

Does it work? Yes, let's, let's think about it, let's ask the question.

Cory:

Here's the thing she would look brilliant. Yeah, shelly DeVall would look brilliant as Morticia who looks there? It's just like what state of Shelly DeVall am I getting On?

Nick:

set Like is she just going to break down every time? Like can we do another take and she just like starts ball. Yeah, it was only two takes.

Ash:

Hey, kierbryk was he was going too hard on her. He was going way too hard on her. We need to ease her down a bit. We need to bring her back to the fun times, the Popeye time.

Cory:

He's kind of fighting dirty.

Nick:

He is fighting dirty.

Cory:

Like OK, here's the thing. All right, I'll make this simple. Ash, I really respect the angle you're going where I need to give her, but she was on the set of time bandits. She's around like a bunch of little people in Monty Python. If she's not having a good time after the shining, it's going to help her heal. She's around the funniest people on the planet. She's around Michael Palin.

Nick:

Like yeah, Ash, it's come back to bite you. You didn't think about the counter.

Cory:

I'm going to go share. I'm going to go share. If you were giving me pre-shining Shelly DeVall, I would probably consider it more, but I'm really nervous about having that liability on the set.

Nick:

Oh man, oh man, Especially a dark set. Yeah.

Cory:

Really dark, gloomy set, yeah and yeah.

Ash:

That's what we need.

Nick:

We need that presence of it.

Ash:

We need that presence of it.

Nick:

And booby traps and stuff.

Cory:

Yeah, and she's just yeah, she's like this is post-Sunny Bono.

Ash:

Oh yeah, I mean, she's just living life right now. I think she actually auditioned for the role.

Cory:

I would have, did she really?

Ash:

I think so I mean it wouldn't shock me if she did.

Cory:

I mean she literally. It's like when you she looks like Morticia Adams. Yeah, All right. Yeah, this is.

Nick:

Oriane really wanted her to play Morticia in the 91 version appearance.

Ash:

Yeah, that's right, yeah.

Cory:

All right and it's like. It's like, just I'm still getting kind of the 70s share. Post Bono, post reality show, but not the crazy big haired. If I could turn back time, I think I'm getting like a really great era of share. Yeah, for sure, even other years, nick and I would have told you no so.

Nick:

But you said yes.

Cory:

And that's what we're going to happen to hit peak share, all right. So let's, let's round out the Adams brothers. Uncle Fester Got it. Gomez, we're going to start with Uncle Fester being in my old room, sure?

Speaker 1:

brings back memories. Remember camp custer for preteen offenders. Oh, oh. Oh, heart memories precious.

Cory:

Today I like to wander through the house, who is brilliantly played by Christopher Lloyd. I had seen this movie three times before I realized it was Christopher Lloyd.

Nick:

Really.

Cory:

Yeah, I mean, I saw it as a kid. Ok, ok, so that's about the teenager and I watched it. I'm like, oh my gosh, that's the guy from Back to the Future. This is the homeless guy from Dennis the Minutes.

Nick:

Like this is crazy. That's the bad guy from who Frayed Roger Rabbit.

Cory:

Yeah, this guy Dude. Christopher Lloyd's a badass yeah.

Nick:

He's good. I don't think we appreciate that enough. He's got some range. I think people forget.

Cory:

I feel like we lump him into Doc Brown and walk off.

Ash:

Right? I think so, yeah, 100%.

Cory:

Oh my gosh, All right, OK. Yeah, he's phenomenal. Somehow I don't know how he has to weigh 90 pounds at his heaviest in his whole life and he plays a fat guy.

Nick:

Right.

Cory:

And the thing is he's wearing a fat suit, but they don't add anything to his face. Ok, somehow he gives himself a fat face. I don't know he's got a bald head Must be the bald head that makes him?

Ash:

I don't know.

Cory:

I don't know. Yeah, he's just very good at doing the double chin and keeping his shoulders up. I don't know, it's brilliant, all right, but he does incredible. It's all there really is to say about Christopher Lloyd here, also one of the all-time great character actors, just an absolute treasure. He will die soon and will all be really sad. Say that Corey, I can't help it. Yeah, we're in a mood I'm like, oh no, it's going to come soon.

Nick:

Listen, he was just a nobody playing the grandpa. He's doing fine. I really hope so. I hope he's doing fine.

Ash:

He's a good nick at the moment. He looks really solid at the moment. It was an interview with Michael J Fox. He looked great.

Nick:

I'm trying to say like oh yeah, your grandpa's going to die soon, listen the other day Steve Martin just had a birthday.

Cory:

He's like well into his 70s and I'm like prepping myself, I'm prepping myself. I won't go to work for a while. I will call in when Steve Martin dies.

Nick:

That's fair. That's fair.

Cory:

I will take sick leave. And so it's, I'm not prepared, all right. All right, christopher, uncle Fester, nick, you made it, I did. You brought in Cher, who's on the nose, but it just happens to be the right era.

Nick:

Not always bad things. Not always bad things, Corey. That was bad.

Cory:

And we've taken some good risk here. I'm liking this cast. We got RDJ and Julie Lewis and Henry.

Nick:

Winkler and.

Cory:

Lansbury, we got some great combos going.

Nick:

Well, I got another one for you, Corey.

Cory:

You ready for this?

Nick:

Here we go. All right Now. Most people nowadays know him as an old man he's. He's long, he's long since passed away. But back in the day you knew him in Young Frankenstein, in Taxi Driver and more recently everybody loves Raymond. Oh, I'm giving you Peter Boyle Corey, aged 46 years of age in 81. This year he's doing Outland, which I don't really know of. But Peter Boyle, I think he's shown the ability to play dark characters and obviously like the TV sitcom Kooky Grandpa characters. So I think he could find some good energy here to play our uncle tester. But it also helps that he's he looks good bald. I think that's also an important feature to this character.

Cory:

Does he need to? I just want to read the plot of Outland Go ahead, which is a picture of Sean Connery in a police uniform holding a shotgun. Best film of the year Wasn't? A federal marshal stationed at a mining colony on the Jupiter moon Cool uncovers a drug smuggling conspiracy. Sounds like you'll kind of film. I don't know if we want I it's.

Nick:

Listen, nick, I'm not saying I'm or he's not top billing.

Cory:

I know he's not top billing, but I just don't know how much I want to test this movie until I see it, because all pictures look incredible.

Nick:

Well, we can watch it later, after you've picked him for this movie.

Cory:

I'm not. I'm listening. I'm not listening. I am one of those people that I will destroy things, I don't know, but I'm a little hesitant right now. This looks like a really bad alien knock off.

Nick:

Like it looks really fun.

Ash:

It looks awesome.

Cory:

OK list Peter Boyle's half on the board, ok, half on the moon of Jupiter, ash. Ok. Really depends on how you're going to play Uncle Fester here, and I do have a potential override if I have to.

Ash:

Oh God, I'm right, I forgot about that. Ok, right. Well, I've gone for someone who has hair and I think he's one of my favorite actors. He's been in pretty much everything you can think of. He's been in Avengers, he's been in pretty and pink, he's been an alien. He is one of my favorite actors of all time and he can definitely sell the role. He's done so much range, he's done comedy, he's done animation, scary. I just love the guy and he's loveable. And Uncle Fester is a loveable guy and I would love to see him in the makeup. So I'm giving you Harry Dean Stanton.

Ash:

Oh, is playing the same age as what Christopher Lloyd was. As the time I think he was 55. But Chris Lloyd was 53. And in 1981, he was doing a film called One from the Heart, which I have never heard of. Oh, he is also in Escape from New York, which I've just seen, but he's not. He's not Kurt Russell on that. It's all good, he's not Kurt Russell on that, but yeah, he's in two films in 1981. None, that is really particularly you know him. But yeah, harry Dean Stanton, I wanted to give him a.

Nick:

You're taking John Carpenter's staple guy out of his movies.

Ash:

Hey, as long as I'm not taking Snake, listen out with you. I was about to say Kurt Russell is the staple guy.

Nick:

Yeah, but he's. But Stanton's the secret weapon, he's the secret course.

Ash:

Nick, you say out of this, all right, the quality with Julia Lewis is One for the books, honestly.

Nick:

Spectator in the background. It's an acting credit OK.

Cory:

Wow, ok, ok.

Nick:

OK, I got acting credits on. If that's the case.

Cory:

All right, I'm not going to use it over right here. I'm not.

Ash:

I'm just pretty in pink. John Hughes, you love, you love the 80s. No, I love the. He loves Harry Dean Stanton yeah, he's a great character actor he is.

Cory:

All right, I'm not going to. I want to say my override for Gomez. I'm afraid of what you'll have done with Gomez.

Nick:

OK fair.

Cory:

Ok, because my override was going to be Don Knot's for Uncle Fester.

Ash:

It's not bad actually.

Cory:

Really hoping when he fell, we're going to bring me Don Knot. He's just sitting right there. He's a free agent this year. How old is he? Who cares? I'm just asking, Um so.

Cory:

I like it. I'm going to go. Harry Dean Stanton, dang it. I think for me maybe Peter Boyle is a little too on the nose in the wrong way. Not the shareway, come on, but maybe just to, just to. I want to see what Harry Dean Stanton is going to do with this, because Harry Dean Stanton is also kind of out of his mind a little bit.

Ash:

He is out of his mind. The John Hughes effects pays off of Corey.

Nick:

For those wondering at home, Don Knot's is in his 50s at this point 50s.

Cory:

Absolutely perfect Good of me Right.

Nick:

I over thought the. You know, the black and white indie-grip show throws you off.

Cory:

Yeah, I mean it's, I don't know, it's kind of like you. The fact that Christopher Lloyd was in his 40s when he played Doug Brown still blows my mind.

Speaker 1:

That's true.

Ash:

So I mean, he's looked 70 for 70 years. Yeah, yeah, oh my god.

Cory:

Yeah, so all right, great, not copyright. He's going to be in his late 40s.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, all right.

Cory:

That brings us to Gomez Adams. Look at her.

Speaker 3:

I would die for her, I would kill for her. Either way, what bliss.

Speaker 1:

Unhappy darling.

Speaker 3:

Oh yes.

Cory:

Yes, completely. Just the heart and soul of this Raul Julia, who is a treasure we lost way too soon in life. True, he's at the end of this kind of run here. He's going to make this, he's going to make the sequel and he's going to make Street Fighter.

Nick:

Oh, also great.

Cory:

Essentially, he just started making movies his kids could see because he knew he was going to die. You know has been quoted as saying Gomez is his favorite character and he loved it. Any time to recognize on the street would happily go in a character for them.

Nick:

Nice and so gone too soon, way too soon, archies yeah.

Cory:

All right, and when we're going to attempt to recast him here, all right. Gomez Adams. He kind of recreated the character as this very suave oversexual but great father.

Nick:

They are half a second If the camera keeps rolling. Him and Morticia are having sex in those scenes.

Cory:

Oh yeah.

Ash:

The chemistry is ridiculous.

Nick:

It's shocking the only of two children. The auction yeah, literally.

Speaker 1:

They are they are.

Nick:

They just go at it. They're fun people.

Cory:

Yeah.

Nick:

So we don't kick, shame.

Cory:

Everyone wears their kinks on their sleeves in the Adams family. So all right, all right. So it's Gomez Adams. Everyone knows the character. It's iconic. It's great Raul kind of created the modern innovation of that. That is just stuck Again. Charles, you did great, but people just did your stuff a little bit better. That's fine, so all right. So who made that Ash?

Speaker 3:

You got to go first Gomez.

Nick:

That is the reward.

Ash:

Oh, I'm not sure about this, all right, okay, I'm going to take it Gomez Adams. I just want to put it out there. I don't think anyone's going to do a better job than.

Speaker 1:

Raul Julia Attle. I don't think so Perfect yeah. Gomez Love the guy.

Ash:

That being said, I've given it a go. I've taken a swing and I found a guy who is quite charming. I've dropped the age down a bit. He's about 10 years younger, but he's always looked kind of like middle aged, so it's not really a thing. He was established in a very famous film with Robert De Niro and a Woody Allen film, annie Hall, and he does a trademark in most of his movies where he does a little dance, and so I think he would be perfect in the waltz here and in true romance. He has this sort of dark attire as a Sicilian. He has that dark privado about him. So I am giving you Christopher Walken and I think he would be ridiculously good. He's very charming, he has that voice. He's got his own sort of voice, which is very more of a gimmick now, and the only thing I'm taking him out of is a film called, oh my God. I almost said Penis in Heaven. It's Penny's in Heaven, oh.

Nick:

Penny's in Heaven, yeah.

Ash:

Yeah, penny's in Heaven. That's the only film he's in, but this is after Dear Hunter and Annie Hall, so he's established in the 70s. So this would be taking a little different direction. I didn't think about.

Nick:

Christopher Walken Corey.

Cory:

I didn't either.

Nick:

That's a while Okay.

Cory:

So at first again and I'm going to give Ash the benefit of the doubt here I hated it when he said it. But again it's the time period is very different.

Nick:

It's not late walking. It's not late walking.

Cory:

This is like serious actor that's getting nominated for Oscars Walken.

Nick:

This is just post, dear Hunter Walken. Yeah, exactly.

Cory:

So I'm like I took it to context and I'm like and he sports mustaches in that movie as well. And he does have the little go to mustache. Okay, so he can pull off a mustache.

Nick:

It's important. It's important for this role.

Cory:

I'm pulling him out of his only movie was in with Steve Martin, though. Oh, my God so he's not one of Steve Martin's signature films. All right, okay, all right. I hated it at first, ash, but now I'm like I see it because of the time period yes, no I kind of like it. Actually it's growing on me.

Nick:

And you can definitely. He's more of a blonde, dirty blonde but you can darken it yeah, no, no no, it's fine, it's fine.

Speaker 3:

It's fine.

Nick:

It's a low key, but brilliant walking is on the board. It's a brilliant walk in, I'm not afraid to say it. It's a well played move. So I'm going to cut. I'm playing with a lot of rules, Corey today, I guess, but I'm going to both.

Cory:

Are I'm going to cast and dead people, or just?

Ash:

change in ages. We're testing, we're testing, we're testing. I'm going to add the Ted Cassidy thing. All right, you might define.

Nick:

Okay, Corey. So this is going to come off of weird, but let me explain it as quickly as possible.

Cory:

Oh gosh, it's just like another. Charles Bronson is Maximus thing here. No, no.

Nick:

Well, this person has technically already played Gomez Adams. Oh, no, no, but my art. Here's my argument.

Nick:

Oh gosh, I'm going to bring you Tim Curry, and here's why. Here's why the argument was that I had other options but they didn't quite hit right for me. And the only reason I'm bringing up Tim Curry is because I think he, if you don't have Raoul Julia, Tim Curry is a great substitute. The only problem with him in the third straight to DVD version that he was in was that it was a straight to DVD version that he was in after Raoul Julia existed.

Nick:

And the movie itself watching some clips of it. It does not hold up. But Tim Curry holds up, but the rest of it does not. But the other thing too is that he's too old at that point for the role. So I think, post Rocky Horror, pre-clu, and all his 80s hits that he gets, and then the 90s early stuff, I think this is a great time for Tim Curry to take on the role. So I want, I want to. I'm writing that line, but I think there's a decent argument there for it. I mean, you've explained yourself well, thank you.

Ash:

It makes sense yeah.

Nick:

I mean like because if, because Gomez is, so he is sex appeal, it's a gentlemanly kind of vibe about him. He's not quite like, he doesn't have like an English gentlemanliness to him, but there's a lot of that in there. I feel like it comes off a lot like a Clark Gable, if he was just super like horny all the time.

Cory:

Yeah, yeah. So I mean, like I, I I'm sort of frustrated that you did the thing but at the same time like yeah, it's, this is technically a third installment of the franchise that we don't acknowledge. Right, it's not canon. The only person that reprises a role is Lurch.

Ash:

Lurch yeah.

Cory:

And that's mainly because you can't. It's like there's not a lot of seven foot.

Nick:

And that's the only. I think those technicalities are the only reason I would even bring it up.

Cory:

Yeah, and so I get it. I do get it.

Ash:

Yeah, I get it. I do get it. Your reasoning is is logic is sound.

Cory:

You kind of want to give Tim Curry a real shot, right? I'm not bringing you Ralph Julia 10 years ago. Yeah, you're, you're. You want to give Tim Curry an actual shot at the role? Yes, because he didn't get one. Because Tim Curry's main flaw as an actor was that he didn't say no to a whole lot.

Speaker 3:

That's true, because IMDb is long.

Cory:

There's a lot of crap you got to wade through to get to the good.

Nick:

Yeah.

Cory:

And so, all right, I'm also considering my overrides here, but at the same time I don't. I don't know if I love them as much as I like your guys. One's just okay, I'm not going to use them.

Ash:

I'm not going to use my overrides Wow.

Cory:

Okay, I was thinking Jack Nicholson, but he's too creepy.

Nick:

Just came off the shining too, he's just too creepy.

Cory:

Yeah, I just he's charming, but his charming is like it's creepy. Yeah, it's creepy yeah.

Ash:

There's no sex appeal to it in a not a charming.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's almost non-consensual yeah.

Cory:

Exactly.

Speaker 1:

It's almost non-consensual even when it is.

Cory:

So, and then Al Pacino was my other guy.

Nick:

Also fair. Also fair to consider.

Ash:

Pacino.

Nick:

Very sensitive woman.

Cory:

Al.

Ash:

Pacino yeah.

Cory:

That's what I'm saying. I'm bringing, I'm bringing like the right era of.

Ash:

Pacino After the Godfather, though.

Cory:

I can't believe I'm going to do this, but I'm going to let Tim Curry have the shot. Oh my God.

Ash:

Yeah, I, I, I, yeah, I'm not mad.

Cory:

Nothing else, just an undo of Blemish on his very Blemishy record, that's yeah.

Nick:

That's fair yeah.

Cory:

Like, let's just, let's just remove that, let's let him have the shot. It's going to be good, because this is like Rocky Horror era.

Nick:

Yes, it's just. It's a few years after that.

Cory:

Yeah.

Nick:

It's a few years before you know legend and that run with Clue and everything.

Ash:

Yeah.

Nick:

His little quick nineties run yeah.

Cory:

I think Curry deserves the shot. Guys, what do you?

Ash:

what do you think, what do you guys think, listening, let us know on the blog.

Cory:

Yeah.

Nick:

I think the blog on the social media.

Cory:

I will say that Christopher Walken was brilliant.

Nick:

It was, but it's, it's more. I really thought you were going, christopher Walken.

Cory:

I was really going to.

Nick:

I had a.

Cory:

I was waiting on let's give Tim Curry this, this, this shot.

Ash:

Same. I think you played on my heartstrings a little bit with that one as well, I think you played dirty a little bit. Yeah, I like it. I don't mind it. I mean, I'd rather lose to that one than like random spectator and an uncredited role in 19. I'm not letting that go, by the way, never.

Cory:

What it actually is, though, is I knew as soon as you said walking, I knew I wasn't going to do my my override.

Ash:

Okay.

Cory:

I was better than Nicholson and Pacino, that's true.

Nick:

Yeah, it was a very solid pick, like I really thought I was losing that one. All right, okay, go ahead.

Ash:

No, I like Tim Curry, I'm not mad about that one.

Cory:

This is going to be one of my favorite casts from this podcast. Dang, this is good, we nailed it I think this is a very 81 cast and what's weird is I actually like and this doesn't happen a lot. I feel like this is a realistic cast. It's looking good. This is like an affordable cast.

Nick:

We can. We can go under budget.

Cory:

Essentially, we're throwing all of our money at share. Yeah.

Ash:

Shares, shares. Raking it in now. I think that is Everyone else is working for like their normal rate.

Cory:

Yeah, this is rare for us. I think we actually did this within budget, because when you have a time machine, you don't think we don't consider budgets here, we just were, but we have all the money in the world Future money, corey and so all right, all right, so I'm going to bring this.

Cory:

This is what a 1981 the Adams family would look like, per quantum recast. Okay, coming in at Lurch, frankenstein Butler is Richard Keele. Jaws himself. Granny will be played by Virginia Mayo of a white heat. Emily Alford will be played by the font, henry Winkler. Abel Abigale Craven Craven I can, I can. I can not pronounce that Abigail Craven will be played by Angela Lansbury. Pugsley Adams will be played by a 15, 16 year old, robert Downey Jr. We teen aged Pugsley. Wednesday Adams is going to be played by an eight year old, juliet Lewis. Love, the dynamic we just created. Uncle Fester we played by Harry Dean Stanton. Morticia Adams will be share and Gomez Adams getting a shot at redemption. Tim Curry.

Nick:

I like it. This is actually phenomenal, I'm. I'm into this.

Cory:

I'm proud of this. I'm proud of you guys.

Speaker 1:

It would sell to get the podcast at the end until this happened.

Cory:

So I had an announcement ready and everything.

Nick:

I was ready to walk, we did it, nick.

Cory:

And then y'all convinced me to say another episode.

Ash:

Four more years and you didn't use any of your power ups.

Nick:

I did. You didn't swap, I did it. There's no rest Wow.

Cory:

I'm so glad to be here, other than I'm really sad because Robert Downey Jr in 1980 looks a lot like Ralph Julia. I wish that.

Nick:

That could be exactly alike they would be yeah.

Cory:

So all right, that is Adams family 1981.

Nick:

That's it. So we thank you for listening.

Cory:

It's great, it's great, it's wonderful. This is essentially pretty much the end of Halloween.

Nick:

Almost. Yeah, we got a surprise episode. We're probably in the back pocket a little something.

Cory:

We're heading into November that's right, probably our worst month on this podcast. We're in between two like easy months of full of Halloween and Christmas movies, and then you're just like we're convincing ourselves not to do.

Ash:

Thanksgiving maybe.

Cory:

Because it's the only Thanksgiving movie anyone can think of. That's true. So yeah. Well, so subscribe. We're on all the social medias. Please check us out. We're on the Instagram, the Tik Toks, everything, and we have a website, we have a blog. We have a lot of stuff that you can interact with and engage.

Nick:

Yes, you can At Kwan recast.

Cory:

All right, until next time. Say good night, nick.

Nick:

Happy Thanksgiving to you.

Intro
Useless Critic Stats
Box Office Top Ten: 1981
Oscars 1982 (54th Academy Awards)
What Changes About This Movie?
Why Did We Pick This Film?
Casting Rules
30 Seconds or Less Casting
Abigail Craven
Pugsley Addams
Wednesday Addams
Morticia Addams
Uncle Fester
Gomez Addams
Final Cast