Nick and Cory revisit the classic sequel, Home Alone 2: Lost in New York, which Cory firmly believes is superior to the original. Join us as we explore the critic and audience scores, lament of Roger Ebert's disdain for these movies, and debate which movie is superior.
We deep dive FAO Schwartz, the high-end toy store (that actually exists!) the multiple versions of video games for these movies (and Nick's struggle to beat them), and even discuss who might make THAT hotel cameo in a updated version of the movie.
We'll finish up with a look at the missed opportunities for a proper trilogy and a quick peek into Macaulay Culkin's career post-Home Alone. We promise, you'll walk away with a newfound appreciation for both movies and a healthy dose of nostalgia! So, come join us for this short holiday trip through the Big Apple!
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Co-Hosts (Season 5):
Aly Dale (@alydale55)
Ash Hurry (@filmexplorationah)
Cass Elliott (@take5cass)
Voice of the Time Machine:
Kristi Rothrock (@letzshake)
Editing by:
Nick Growall
Featured Music:
"Quantum Recast Theme" - Cory Williams
"Charmer" - Coat
"Revival" - Daniele Musto
"Pukka" - Bellodrone
"Kings and Queens" - Wicked Cinema
"Kiss the Cat" - Al Town
"Birdcage" - Al Town
"Passenger" - Abloom
*Music and licenses through Soundstripe
Nick and Cory revisit the classic sequel, Home Alone 2: Lost in New York, which Cory firmly believes is superior to the original. Join us as we explore the critic and audience scores, lament of Roger Ebert's disdain for these movies, and debate which movie is superior.
We deep dive FAO Schwartz, the high-end toy store (that actually exists!) the multiple versions of video games for these movies (and Nick's struggle to beat them), and even discuss who might make THAT hotel cameo in a updated version of the movie.
We'll finish up with a look at the missed opportunities for a proper trilogy and a quick peek into Macaulay Culkin's career post-Home Alone. We promise, you'll walk away with a newfound appreciation for both movies and a healthy dose of nostalgia! So, come join us for this short holiday trip through the Big Apple!
Thanks for listening; If you feel like supporting us, this is where you do that!
BuyMeACoffee
Check out or other content/socials here.
Linktree
Hosts:
Cory Williams (@thelionfire)
Nick Growall (@nickgrowall)
Co-Hosts (Season 5):
Aly Dale (@alydale55)
Ash Hurry (@filmexplorationah)
Cass Elliott (@take5cass)
Voice of the Time Machine:
Kristi Rothrock (@letzshake)
Editing by:
Nick Growall
Featured Music:
"Quantum Recast Theme" - Cory Williams
"Charmer" - Coat
"Revival" - Daniele Musto
"Pukka" - Bellodrone
"Kings and Queens" - Wicked Cinema
"Kiss the Cat" - Al Town
"Birdcage" - Al Town
"Passenger" - Abloom
*Music and licenses through Soundstripe
Welcome to another episode of Quantum Recast. I don't even know if we call these many soads anymore. They're just episodes.
Speaker 2:They're just what they are, you know we do these enough now.
Speaker 1:We don't have to change it up. We don't have to defame the many. There's slightly shorter than the other ones. Yeah, which, speaking of, if you listened to our last episode, we did.
Speaker 2:Home Alone.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:In the year 2000.
Speaker 1:Took it to 2000. And so, naturally, we're going to bring you an in defense of the sequel, and by sequel we just mean the one true Home Alone sequel. There's only one, I know there's three. I've seen three. After that it gets really fuzzy, up until they I know they made, they remade, they rebooted it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll give you. I'll give you a run down here in a minute. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1:I was like. I was like I don't have the numbers in front of me. Yeah, I knew that you were going to deny the existence of other sequels.
Speaker 2:Of course, of course, yeah.
Speaker 1:But I was like, but we probably need to tell people what they actually are, Right. But that's what we're doing here. This in defense of the sequel. This is when we talk about a sequel, that's usually of a very beloved, first edition usually, and we defend it.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:Because people think sequels are bad. I happen to think sequels are incredible, often better than the original.
Speaker 2:Because you're not a fan of the world building. Let's be honest. No, it's so boring Establishing characters, plot lines like it's not your thing.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, we get it. There's a ring, go throw it in the volcano. Why do we got to go here and go there and go under this mountain and meet these people, and why are nine people?
Speaker 2:at the faking. You just want to see them fight. Works. Let's just move on to the battle. Play some heavy metal, just go for it.
Speaker 1:You know what? Samwise was the second member of that team and that's all you needed. Turns out the entire time. Turns out the two habits could just walk right through the border. Yep, they did not need all that other. They split immediately. You guys go this way. We got this. We found this little monster man. He says he knows the way we got the connect.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I'd yeah, it's a lot of that, it's a lot of world building. But I also just think sometimes sequels are an improvement. I think that I often think that sequels because they're not world building, okay have a lot more fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you've built. The sandbox is already built. Now you get to play with the toys.
Speaker 1:It's to me, it's Grimlins, Grimlins 2, which I'm sure one day we'll do. One day we will absolutely talk about Grimlins 2. Maybe next Christmas. Grimlins 2 is just absolute insanity because they don't have to tell you much. There's like one line that says I don't feed it after midnight. Blah, blah, blah. It's like cool. We have a whole movie that has already told us not to do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean. The good news is there's not that many Christmas sequels that are worth talking about.
Speaker 1:No, not, unless one day we decide to just talk about every Christmas Carol ever made.
Speaker 2:That might have to happen.
Speaker 1:Because I don't know what the first one is. We should watch the first one.
Speaker 2:We watch them back to back to back to back to back.
Speaker 1:No, I was just going to say let's watch the first one and just see how it stacks up to the ones we've seen. Okay got it, because if it's the best, then great.
Speaker 2:Come on, come on, we both see Mother Christmas Carol, so they're not technically sequels. So all right, All right, all right, all right, home Alone.
Speaker 1:Macaulay Culkin. Macaulay Culkin, yes, yes, yes, yes, let's talk about Macaulay Culkin. So I do think, just to get it off my chest, that Home Alone 2 is better than Home Alone. Okay, you disagree? I mean right.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay, it's like I know you love Home Alone Listen. No, I didn't. Just I didn't wait three years to finally recast that move, for no reason, corey. But no, I get it, I get it. So let's dive in, corey.
Speaker 1:Let's look at the numbers to start off before we start making arguments and stuff, let's dissect Home Alone 2.
Speaker 2:Okay, so just to give a rundown again those of you that have listened to a defense of the sequel we do our critic stats, a little note from Roger Ebert and then we move into just notes about the films themselves in general. But today we'll be talking about Lost in New York, obviously. So the original Home Alone came out in 1990. It Rotten Tomato has a 66 critic score, a 68 audience score, imdb 7.7. Metacritic 63,. Naturally Letterbox has a 3.8. I didn't see your score on Letterbox for Home Alone, but oh, out of how many stars Out of five.
Speaker 1:It's out of five or out of four. Out of five Out of five Make it a three and a half.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's fair. That's fair, okay, respectable, respectable.
Speaker 1:I have it as a five and we'll get into that, so I should just go ahead and point out that obviously we all have our own rubrics. Yeah, Nostalgia does not carry a lot of weight with me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's fair so.
Speaker 1:I mean, if I cared a lot about nostalgia, give it a five because it's very nostalgic, but I don't factor that in.
Speaker 2:For me it's a lot of case to case because it's like this is one of those movies I watch growing up, so of course there's going to be a five next to it. Is it pro? I mean you could sit down, sit there, look at and go like is it like this nuance? Perfection of like cinema.
Speaker 1:Probably not.
Speaker 2:But I gave it a five. So box office it had an 18 million budget. The box office made 476 million, which we pointed out in our last episode. It was the highest comedy at the time. Now it's Barbie. Go, listen to that episode as well. Ebert, as we pointed out, gave it a 2.5 out of four stars and this was the original right this was the original. Okay, so now.
Speaker 1:Give me some two. Give me some two For some two.
Speaker 2:Rot Tomatoes was not kind 35, corey what? And 62 for audience people. They critics hated this movie, which I don't understand. Why their big drop off happens.
Speaker 1:It's delightful, I don't know what it is is. It's a copy and paste. Yeah but it's the same movie.
Speaker 2:It's just in New York City.
Speaker 1:It's done well. Well, I mean, I'll give them this the movies in New York City.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:It's not in Toronto. Like Jason Ford East, true, true true, it seems when you watch it, they filmed it in New York City, most of the exteriors in New York City. They didn't find a fake New York, so come on, critics, give them.
Speaker 2:they deserve that, which, and you know, they bumped the budget up. It was $28 million for Home Alone 2.
Speaker 1:Got an extra 10. It made $359 million so that's Drop off a triple Respectable yeah.
Speaker 2:Beyond Rot Tomatoes, imdb. It has a 6.9, 69 if you're nasty Metacritic has a 46. Letterbox 3.4. I gave this, I gave this one 4. You know, I felt like it. It still was a solid. In my opinion. It's a solid sequel. I think it follows a lot of the same notes and beats of the original.
Speaker 1:As a movie, I'd give it a 4.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:As a Christmas movie, I'd give it a 4.5.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I think it's a great Christmas movie.
Speaker 1:I think it's a better Christmas movie than the first one.
Speaker 2:Why do you think that?
Speaker 1:We got the turtle doves. We got a charity involved. Now Okay.
Speaker 2:We got the nice little toy. Owner yeah.
Speaker 1:You got your surrogate, santa Claus. Okay, okay, you got your Grinch. So it's.
Speaker 2:It's a bit In Tinker, yeah You're leaning into a lot of that mythos, callback kind of stuff with Christmas movies. The original, though, has and this one touches on it a little bit, but not as much, obviously, but this one, the original, had the themes of family and appreciation of it, and especially around the holiday times, which is generally a large theme in Christmas movies. But, yeah, I think it's a solid follow-up. I mean, you talk about following up, it was the biggest comedy at the time. So then you have this and has respectable numbers. So, corey, before we start talking more into detail about what we love, what we don't love, roger Ebert gave this one two stars.
Speaker 1:Wait, well, how much did he give the first one? 2.5. So I will respect you came down half a star, I respect the consistency at least here's his notes, corey.
Speaker 2:So his beef with the Home Alone series is basically the cartoon violence become live action. He calls Macaulay Culkin the sadistic little hero who mercilessly hammers a couple of slow learning crooks. He did not enjoy the shameless attempt to leave in the mayhem by including a preachy subplot about the pigeon lady at Central Park. He says call me hard-hearted, call me cynical, but please don't call me if they make Home Alone 3.
Speaker 1:What in the world?
Speaker 2:He's like inconsistent. The problem is he says the cartoon violence is only funny in cartoons.
Speaker 1:That's not true.
Speaker 2:It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:He never saw the mask It's-.
Speaker 2:He never-. I'm like, sir, these movies exist, the masks exist. How can you hate this?
Speaker 1:My thing is I think Ebert he it took him a while to come out of the Reagan era moral police like yeah, the Home Alone police entertainment. It's really weird.
Speaker 2:Reading the review, it comes off just very like I can't believe that this is a children's movie and I'm like what is your problem? He's like the question is it whether the movie will scare the children, it's whether the adults will be able to peek behind their fingers Like even as a adult I watch it and like yeah, there's like, oh, that hurts, but you're still like that's funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's like I don't know what did he rank Schindler's list? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Like geez.
Speaker 1:I mean it's rough to watch, Right. You know you're cringing the whole time. Did he give passion to Christ one because of the cartoon violence on Jesus?
Speaker 2:Listen. This violence was just too much, I can't. And yet he likes horror movies. He'll give horror movies decent scores.
Speaker 1:But he gives the later horror movies. In the 80s he hated horror movies because he thought they were packaged towards kids. He's like slash, your movies are being packaged towards kids and they're violent. He was a morality police guy but he lightened up later in life.
Speaker 2:Well, that's good, I mean, at least that's respectful. So, speaking of later in life, corey, okay. So, like we said, two points, two stars, four Home Alone 1, 2.5 for Home Alone 1, 2.0 for Home Alone 2.
Speaker 1:I think I know where you're going, what happened?
Speaker 2:Take a while. Guess what Home Alone 3 got. He watched Home Alone 3. He did watch Home Alone 3.
Speaker 1:Oh, so he's not even. He doesn't even stand by his convictions.
Speaker 2:No, not at all.
Speaker 1:So he called them and said Home Alone 3's out.
Speaker 2:You gotta go watch it. It's straight to video. No, no, no, that one was in theaters. That one did get her theatrical release, home Alone 3 starring Alex Pruitt. This is the only moment we're gonna touch on this movie, hopefully. Yeah, he gave it three stars, corey, three stars. What year did that come out? That movie came out in the year of our lord 1997.
Speaker 1:See, I think he lightened up by then.
Speaker 2:I think so Because he liked Scream in 96. You know.
Speaker 1:I think he lightened up by then.
Speaker 2:That's fair. I mean, it's a glowing review.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing and just a little kid beaten up on terrorists, right, and that's the wild thing.
Speaker 2:He's like oh, it's enjoyable. And he's like partly because of Alec Lynch. So he has a problem with McCulloch-Hulkin. He thinks Alex Lynch is adorable and he has this genuinely sweet smile on his face as he watches his traps demolish the bad guys. I'm like, bro, you, literally you. It's the same movie, flow for Flow bar for bar.
Speaker 1:Listen, I like Alec Lynch. He had a good run. He had Liar, liar.
Speaker 2:He had OmoM3 and One Fine.
Speaker 1:Day with Clooney man. He was in a movie with Clooney the whole day, but it's like just sit there and completely.
Speaker 2:Just bash McCulloch-Hulkin and then act like Alec Lynch is any different. I think he's got Beef with Culkin. It's got some beef with Mac all right, we're calling you out, roger. I know that you're passed away. May he rest in peace, but we're calling you out.
Speaker 1:So Putting you on notice. That is upsetting.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 1:Because OmoM3 is stupid.
Speaker 2:His final notes are the stunts at the end of War Slap, stick and less special effects. The result is either more entertaining than the first two films or I was having a very silly day. He loves to talk about his silly days, corey, just in case everybody's like. You were wrong.
Speaker 1:I like that Ebert always cops out of his reviews at the end. It's always like maybe I was just having a bad day, I was having a good day and I was just like no, tell us what you feel about this movie.
Speaker 2:All right, well whatever that's dumb it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:OK, before I say what I'm going to say, are you going to tell me this franchise, because I don't really know what happens after 30.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let me give you the breakdown here, so for those of you at home that also probably don't have any idea how this franchise worked out. So 1990, home Alone 1, 1992, home Alone 2, 1997. So there's about a five-year gap. Home Alone 3. Macaulay's too old at that point. Home Alone 4, november 3, 2002, it comes out starring Kevin Macalester, again played by Mike Weinberg.
Speaker 1:See now in the third one. It's not Kevin Macalester, it's not. His name is Alex Pruitt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ok.
Speaker 2:So, beyond that, there is Home Alone, the Holiday Heist in 2012. That stars two people, finn Baxter and Alexis Baxter, the character names. And then, of course, the Disney Plus much-maligned attempt at rebooting the franchise called Homesweet Home Alone, starring Max sorry, archie Yates, most people know him from.
Speaker 1:Jojo Rabbit. Yes, he was the funny kid in Jojo Rabbit. It was good or bad.
Speaker 2:I don't understand how you sit there and go. Let's make a Home Alone reboot and pick the other kid from Jojo Rabbit.
Speaker 1:Because the other kid was probably too pretentious. I guess he was like I was in Jojo Rabbit man.
Speaker 2:I went to the Oscars.
Speaker 1:My agent said it's not good for me to be in a Home Alone reboot. Give it to the pudgy kid.
Speaker 2:Right yeah, just hand him that. He needs a win.
Speaker 1:So, like here's my thing, I don't know what the plots of 4, 5 Holiday Heist are, or whatever, but I know in 3. I saw 3. 3 is their spies.
Speaker 2:They're terrorists, man, they have nuclear warhead chips or something in a race car it's.
Speaker 1:So over the top it's like the Fast and the Furious. It's like what happened to just the thieves.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like who are these guys?
Speaker 2:Why are we making this meticulous plot that no one's going to barely be able to follow?
Speaker 1:I just remember friend Stewart said it and it was horrible.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It was even, I mean, I was like 12. And I thought it was stupid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was not.
Speaker 1:Ebert, whatever I'm done, Ebert.
Speaker 2:We're, he's officially our enemy. I guess We'll find out in the future and future episodes how he feels. But Corey, let's level of thought. I'm going to ask you some questions here. So how badly, just starting off here, did you want to go into the toy store in New York City?
Speaker 1:Um FAO Schwartz. I've been to FAO Schwartz.
Speaker 2:You have okay.
Speaker 1:FAO Schwartz is a real toy. It's a, it's a high brand, high-end. It's like there is a thing that was above toys or us okay, so they're only in major cities okay. Now we'll tell you this they don't really look like that and it's full of just the same kind of toys You'd find in toys or us it's not so, not like, like tinker toys.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Here's my thing. I will answer you honestly. I didn't want to go in this toy stories a kid because it's full of crap my parents played with in 1964, like you want to.
Speaker 2:You want a pet rock? You want to. You want to try sickle who's?
Speaker 1:buying their kid a giant wooden ferris wheel. What are you gonna do with it? Where's the video game? Section mom like this game had a second Genesis slide or this movie had a Sega Genesis game. I came with it.
Speaker 2:It's like no, you know we didn't talk about is the NES version of the first game. There are multiple versions, they're on all the different systems, okay, but I played the one on the NES and that one is like it's a 2d flat, you're, it's one space. You have to survive Marv and Harry for 20 minutes and they get faster and you can use traps, but the traps, after use them so many times, they run out. You know, it wasn't until about 30 years old that I learned you could hide. Oh, they were hiding spots.
Speaker 1:Oh, back then the game didn't really. They just didn't tell her not and they said hear it out.
Speaker 2:Now the other ones are more like level based. Like you go here, especially home alone too. It's like you. You're in the mall, You're in the toy, all that stuff but the first game was it was a test. It was a true test of your, of your skills as a platformer.
Speaker 1:I would say the other thing about this toy store, though, is that they sell McCauley-Colk in a knife. I just want that I like here take the free turtle. That always throws me off. He's like he gets some candy thing, he gets some turtle doves. But he also throws a Swiss army knife up there that all man just sells it to him.
Speaker 2:That's wild. Listen, cory, it's new. You're a kid needs a knife in New York? Let's be honest, okay.
Speaker 1:So the old man should have been like yeah, it's a good knife, That'll get you out of some stitches right there.
Speaker 2:Whatever you do, don't walk in Central Park at night.
Speaker 1:You want a cannoli with that knife? Yeah.
Speaker 2:I will say when I, when I got to go to London that I did I stumbled into a toy store called Hamley's Okay and that thing's about as close as I've ever gotten. It was like five floors of toys. The bottom floor was the video games and they had like people in their gaming and stuff. But like every there's a Lego floor. There was a fully pink girls floor and then like just a stuffed animals floor, like it was as close to this as your posture. I imagine if I went in there at Christmas time it would look very similar to the store in the movie.
Speaker 1:I don't know, man, I've been to. I mean I have been to an affair, short stuff, been to that one, yeah, but it's, it's not like that on the inside. There's one. There's one in Vegas, one in Chicago. I think they're in major cities, gotcha, I don't know if they're still around.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, you've been to New York, I've been to your, but I was only there for like three days, but it seems like you've been there. You got to experience a little more than I did twice. You went twice, okay, but you also got to go to the hotel. I snuck into the hotel. Yeah, you can't just walk in, you can't walk into a hotel.
Speaker 1:Why can't you like, though, like five-star hotels? They the doorman guard to you need to prove you're staying there. So so you hang out by the door. Yeah in when something fancy pulls up in the doorman ghost to greet the people getting out. Yeah, you walk in okay cuz, it's just a rotating door.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah so, but they're just.
Speaker 1:they got people watching waiting for somebody yeah, and like I Actually snuck into the Plaza Hotel this movie with mom and she looks rich. So we got. We were able to walk around, fine, okay. But I snuck into the Waldorf by myself. I got kicked out pretty quick.
Speaker 2:They like pegged you fast, like neck well when you're not wearing, like a Trench coat, a suit yeah, I was wearing an AC.
Speaker 1:DC t-shirt. And they were like buddy, you're not staying here.
Speaker 2:I was like you're right, I'm not. You're right, sir, I'm sorry but I got to sniff.
Speaker 1:You know the welfare for a minute.
Speaker 2:So let me ask you that. So the hotel in the movie is not a Trump Tower.
Speaker 1:Uh-uh, I mean it might be now and maybe a part of it Okay, I'm not sure it's cause that's a hotel and it's right on Central Park okay, yeah to my recollection because he I mean he runs out of the hotel when they chase him, and then he gets into Central Park.
Speaker 2:That's how he ends up.
Speaker 1:It may be attached to the Trump Tower.
Speaker 2:I honestly don't remember cuz that was my question, cuz obviously the elephant in the room, or the, you know, the Magaleta in the room, if you will, donald Trump's in the movie makes a cameo. Yeah he's there. You know you can't do anything about it, but that's why I was just I in my head, I think I always just thought he was in a Trump Tower because Trump walked in. I think I think that was after the fit. Once I realized who Donald Trump was, I was like oh so he was in a Trump Tower.
Speaker 1:That makes sense. I mean it's possible that Donald Trump is since owned or bought it.
Speaker 2:I don't I really don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying there's no affiliation with it, but I think he makes a cameo in this movie just because he's so Synonymous right, new York. Yeah, a big, a big icon of New York now that city's suing the ever-living crap out of them, so they don't love him as much.
Speaker 2:Okay. Fun question who in a in a sequel to our 2000 version? Who is the cameo for New York at that point? Do you pull a Yankee out? Does Derek Jeter just walk?
Speaker 1:by like 2002, cuz I mean, yeah, give it two years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be like Derek Jeter.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, it's a safe choice. Everybody loves Derek Jeter. All the all New York people love Derek Jeter.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't like the.
Speaker 2:Yankees I would have, he would have. When?
Speaker 1:he came on screen ever like.
Speaker 2:But even Derek Jeter, even though he's a Yankee and like everybody's like yeah, screw the Yankees. Like he still like comes off as a Likeable person, like sure, it's like I feel like.
Speaker 1:I'm more than Alex Rodriguez, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I mean, like he he he, he just comes off as like one of those dudes. It's like I'm just here to play baseball and yeah, I got. I got on like the right team kind of thing.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean actually now that we say it in 2002. We're probably not basing this movie in New York. What do you mean? There's some Fresh wounds in 2002 in New York.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, right, yeah, yeah, so I'd be lost in Los Angeles. Yeah, yeah, that's something we didn't talk about, oh in 2002 it's Giuliani. It's who's also being sued eight ways from Sunday. It doesn't age well at all, no matter what year we put this in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we go to 2002,. We go to New York. Kevin McAllister has a heartfelt home at Ground Zero.
Speaker 2:What's happening is what's happening, and it's Giuliani, oh gosh, oh no, because people loved him.
Speaker 1:That's true. Think about all the cameos Giuliani had, all of them In, like the late 2000s, in the early 2000s, in the ESPN Sandler movies yeah, everywhere.
Speaker 2:No, I think in the middle of making this. I mean, we are time travelers, so we are aware of it. But if we were trying to, it would happen and they'd be like, yeah, we can't make this movie here now, it just doesn't work. So we probably have, in hindsight, we probably have to pick LLA or something.
Speaker 1:I mean the Twin Towers are in the movie, though I don't know that he ever goes to the movie.
Speaker 2:What if he went to London instead, Corey?
Speaker 1:Lost in London. That'd be fun.
Speaker 2:It has a nice ring to it. Yeah, it's even further now. It's a further distance. The mom has to fly the six to seven hours across the sea. Maybe she sits next to a John Candy type figure. Okay, I'm liking this. I'm liking where we're going with this.
Speaker 1:I think you could still have in New York, but I like.
Speaker 2:London too, it's a little less. You get a lot of fun accents. It's a little less Toby Keith soundtrack, and then you just have a run into the Queen, yeah. And I mean.
Speaker 1:I get that. People were I don't know when she died. All of a sudden people were like she was terrible. It's like, well, y'all didn't say she was terrible when she was alive, she just came down. People like her.
Speaker 2:She's a sweet old lady. She was an old lady. She was an old lady. Times changed a lot. Either die, hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
Speaker 1:Corey, it's true, and I think she just lived long enough to just be a sweet old lady. Everybody needs to leave alone, that's all I think.
Speaker 2:I mean, how much power did she really have?
Speaker 1:I mean nah whatever.
Speaker 2:That's more of a title thing. That's what I assumed.
Speaker 1:Ash has told me that like there's half people that want to go to a more traditional democracy and be done with theocracy. And then there's the old guard that's like no, we're kings and queens.
Speaker 2:So really it's no different than America. No, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, no one's happy ever. That's the truth.
Speaker 2:That's the line, that's the bottom line there.
Speaker 1:So no.
Speaker 2:But Corey. So we got off topic there for a little bit, but let me, let's just let's talk a little bit deeper. So obviously, like we said, there's a lot of similarities of this movie and the last movie. You know, in the last one he had the old man next door, this one he has the pigeon lady.
Speaker 1:And it's the it's copy and paste. Copy and paste. This can be.
Speaker 2:But it still works. I feel like it does and I feel like the pigeon lady. The casting with those two characters has done so well.
Speaker 1:What's her name? Who plays the pigeon? Lady?
Speaker 2:The pigeon lady escapes me at the moment. Let me pull it up real quick for you.
Speaker 1:She does incredible. Yeah, that's all I'm gonna say. That's why it works is because she just nails it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's the thing. Like both of those performances are so undervalued in the sense that without them just nailing the tone properly, like it doesn't work as well, like it even would be fair to say oh there she's too. She's too on the nose, or it's too sweet and sultry, or whatever. Like Brenda Frickler is her name, who's who she played. I like her so she was in my Left Foot, that's that Daniel Day Lewis movie he won is like first Oscar, for she was in a time to kill.
Speaker 1:And also in. So I married an ex murderer. She's the mom. She's great, nice, no, she's great. I think, yeah, I think, they're both undervalued performances that give both Movies a lot of heart.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, In 2002, the bird lady she's homeless because her husband died in 9-11.
Speaker 2:We just, we just ride those emotions. You could really just, we just ride that and it becomes the cinematic masterpiece. I don't think we knew what we were walking into into this episode no.
Speaker 1:But I mean also, though, in 2002, Kevin never, ever gets on that plane.
Speaker 2:No, so you're right. Yeah, after 9-11, there's no way he's just able to go. What do you bounce into that?
Speaker 1:lady. There's like four guns like put on him and he is not put on that plane. All flights are grounded. They find his parents, they all get to Florida fine.
Speaker 2:After there's not this good. Where's your dad at? Yeah?
Speaker 1:He's like, oh, he's on the plane. He's like, yeah, likely story. Let's step into this room so I hold a Mr Cavity search kit.
Speaker 2:He's probably a 30 year old midget or, excuse me, little person. Yeah, sorry, sorry, yeah, so Smaller human being.
Speaker 1:Yeah, small human being, yeah.
Speaker 2:Is the point yeah.
Speaker 1:So you're right, in 2002, we'd have to bump this movie up.
Speaker 2:Have to bump it up a little bit, a little bit, a little bit, a little bit. You know of the things that carry over from the first movie, though Corey like and this is something that we didn't get to talk about in the last episode but John Williams' soundtrack also takes this movie up to another level. Well, yeah, I mean it's John Williams.
Speaker 1:Did he do the first?
Speaker 2:one, he did the first one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, honestly. It's to the point where, like I think that the soundtrack for Home Alone and Home Alone 2, they're just Christmas songs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're like now in the ethos of Christmas songs. There's remixes of them. Yeah, there's covers of them.
Speaker 1:It's not, it's just Christmas. Now, christmas stole those songs. They're not Home Alone movies songs anymore, they're just Christmas songs.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, they are technically Christmas movies, so yeah.
Speaker 1:But I mean Christmas, took them for the season itself.
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 1:It's practically just jingle bells, I mean it's.
Speaker 2:I mean it's like Meet Me in St Louis, like that movie generally isn't a Christmas movie until the end and she sings the song, you know, and now that's like iconic, it's just part of it. So but now I think, yeah, I think that just sometimes we forget to talk about music and stuff in movies, but I do feel like we need to acknowledge the greatness that is John Williams. Like dude has, I don't think the dude's ever had a miss, ever in his life.
Speaker 1:I'll look into it. Yeah, We'll have to have a deep dive of John Williams episode or something. I'm gonna find a failure in John Williams.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna find out he you know I will say the other thing about this movie that, to give you a point in your favor is it does a decent job balancing all the villains.
Speaker 1:That's why I like it. There's not. He's because Colick Hulkin's like they, because it's a fish out of water. He's no longer. They, they, they, they flipped it. Yeah, in the first movie they're coming to his territory and this one. Now he's on his own.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:In a big city.
Speaker 2:Right In the big city. He doesn't have home filled advantage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the big city is like scary. Obviously they use that the whole like New York City scary and Central Park is scary and blah, blah, blah blah and the burnt lady is scary. But then there's also you have the bourgeois hotel staff that are trying to like out him. And then there's, you know, the sticky bandits now.
Speaker 2:Right, so rebranding, rebranding. I like it.
Speaker 1:There's like there's, there's twice the peril in this movie.
Speaker 2:For sure, for sure, yeah, absolutely. One of the things that also is new to this movie is some of the gadgets Corey, specifically, the talk boy that he, the recorder that he has.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was just a toy commercial. Oh for a hundred percent.
Speaker 2:They were like can you put this in the? Can you work this into the movie please? That would be fantastic.
Speaker 1:My neighbor had one and it wasn't that cool.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, if you're not trying to like confuse people on the phone, if you're not trying to like make a big impact or something like that it's, it's just kind of like oh great, I recorded myself.
Speaker 1:That's all it is. It's just a kid's tape recorder. Let's just sell an adult device to children. Call it talk boy and it'll put it in a movie.
Speaker 2:But that was kind of the thing like in the nineties, like because obviously, like now you hand that to a kid, he's like I have a phone for that, I don't, I don't need that anymore. But back then, if just to have a portable version of something that, like your parents would probably have, like was super awesome, you know well like I remember the commercials for the talk boy.
Speaker 1:They showed a lot of clips from home alone and then it also the kid in the commercials like tricking people, yeah. So, I don't know, my friend, I don't think we ever trick anyone with it.
Speaker 2:I mean, once prank calls kind of became the way the dinosaur, I guess so did the talk boy. So Tiger electronics obtained permission for 20th century Fox and the producers of Home Alone to create and market a real version of the talk boy so it could sell to thousands of people.
Speaker 1:Oh, so you're saying that the movie made the thing Apparently.
Speaker 2:Apparently it was designed. That's a little more cool, I think. So We'll have to do some deep diving. That's a lot more cool, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think it's okay because it's neat when like yeah.
Speaker 2:It originates as a prop, but technological inventors capitalized off of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it became an actual toy. The product lasted for seven years in the market, but had a later resurgence, you know, when it was made into an application, decades later or an application, I guess. So I'll have to go find that talk boy.
Speaker 1:Oh, we can talk, boy yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm about to go use that for my Christmas party, somehow some way. So yeah, I mean there's the talk boy and the talk girl. The talk boy watch talk boy walkie talkie and the incredibly popular talk boy FX pen that could record up to 12 seconds. I remember the pin too, that would have been great for class, you know, because you could record the teacher and then just play it and she doesn't know where it's coming from, until you see the giant bulky pin in your hand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, who is that? It's like you're holding a baton.
Speaker 2:It wasn't me. I'm just writing, ma'am, please don't, please, don't send me to the principal's office again. Now. There is some carryover for John Hughes here. So he did. He was part of this one as well, and we had John Candy in the first one and we had a cameo of Allie Sheedy in this movie, and I was sad to see that. I didn't even know Allie Sheedy was in this movie until you brought it up last episode.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think I said she was in the first movie, she's in this one, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But I was just because you said I was like where is? She at and you're like, oh, she's the, she's the lady at the desk when he gets to New York. City and the airport and I was like, oh my gosh, all the. It's one of those big mind boggling moments as an adult. Now this one also. It has Marvin Harry and it's the. All the jokes are still there, especially the third act when they have the big battle at the end at the at his relatives house. But it also has Tim Curry Corey.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Which is also great. And Robbie Schneider, maggie Smith and Schneider. You know Schneider's there. He's in peak Schneider time, yeah.
Speaker 1:He's SNL right now.
Speaker 2:He's not a carrot or a white chick or anything like that, but he's. He's playing Hot chick.
Speaker 1:He's a hot chick.
Speaker 2:That's right. That's right, the Wayans were the white chicks, that's right, thank you. But yeah, anytime you put Tim Curry in a movie, it's always a good time it's kind of a win. You know, and I was having this thought, it's like he did have a minute in the early nineties where he had this movie. He was in Muppet Treasure Island, but you know beyond Clue and you know legend and it and then obviously Rocky Horror Picture Show. It feels he's one of those people. It feels like he should be bigger. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:So yes, I think he just did too much.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:He like overloads his thing towards just like his awesome career. Just looks like he had gyms and like little hits in a big thing, because he's like Samuel L Jackson never really said no.
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 1:I mean his, his, his standard, whereas Tim Curry's like no roles Tim Curry's doing voices in video games and TV show.
Speaker 2:I mean he has a great boy. I mean he's Nigel Thornberry in the Wild Thornberries. He's the bad guy in Fringully, which.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was the bad guy in McKell's Navy. I think, yeah, I think, like Tim Curry lived out the whole the world to stage Like ideology, like to a literal fact.
Speaker 2:And he's in Congo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's incredible in Congo.
Speaker 2:We've completely forgot about your favorite non-jurassic park movie, Corey.
Speaker 1:I love Congo, he's so good.
Speaker 2:I love that. His known for and IMDb is Congo, muppet, treasure Island, rocky Horror and Clue. It's a solid four.
Speaker 1:That's perfect for.
Speaker 2:It's perfect for.
Speaker 1:Does he choose those?
Speaker 2:Does he choose those? I don't think they get to choose.
Speaker 1:I was like I wonder they choose those. I always wonder who if you get to pick your top four.
Speaker 2:Sometimes it's like it'll be something like why would you pick that over this?
Speaker 1:Cause I would love it if Tim Curry put Congo over like legend.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's the first one. It's the first one on the list If he's like I'm most proud of Congo.
Speaker 1:I would be so pumped.
Speaker 2:Any regrets, Tim Curry? None that there wasn't a Congo too?
Speaker 1:Of course spoilers. He dies in Congo.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right, I forgot. Yes, the weird ape, stone or whatever in the mountain.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, they get to. It's all about the. It's like they're finding Solomon's mind.
Speaker 2:Right, okay.
Speaker 1:And they find out it's guarded by psychopathic gorillas. They kill him.
Speaker 2:We might have to do a quote unquote mini-sode, or if you're brave enough to do a full recast of it, I don't know.
Speaker 1:We'll do Congo one day and some former another. Okay, I don't know if it's going to be a main episode.
Speaker 2:Gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 1:I'll do it as an indivents of the sequel, as a pseudo-jurassic park sequel.
Speaker 2:So, okay, we talked a little bit, corey, so now it's time to break it down to the main points here. So, in short term, what makes you think that Home Alone 2 is better than Home Alone 1?
Speaker 1:Oh, I don't know, I do like. I just think I like the, I like the just setting that he's no longer feel, because you take the safety net of a home away, obviously the stakes are much higher. I do like that. He's on one end again, as we mentioned the two villain thing I like on this side of a line he's got these guys who know he's lying, know that he's stolen some credit card using it and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:And then, on this other side, you have these thieves that you know an axe to grind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there are bumbling, stumbling cartoon characters. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so I don't like that, I don't know. I just I think, like you get, you know, when I watch after watching Home Alone 2, when I go back and watch Home Alone after a while, you just kind of feel claustrophobic in that home.
Speaker 2:You're like we're in this home. We're in this home. We're in this home.
Speaker 1:We're in this home. Where is this one? You're kind of all over the place. These movies are defined by their last 20 minutes the traps.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1:And I think Home Alone 2 is just so much better.
Speaker 2:Well, it definitely goes. It takes, it takes all the, all the pranks and stuff and turns them into 11. I mean literally, literally one of them gets electrocuted and turns into a skeleton.
Speaker 1:He throws cinder blocks at their heads. Yeah, he likes a rope on fire. He tries to murder them.
Speaker 2:But that's just sequel. Like you have to raise the stakes, you have to top yourself. In the first one, I, you know it's. I think this is another. I think Adam's family, adam's family value, family value situation where I, where people always talk about, well, it's just a carbon copy of the first one, I'm like, but I think they both do different things and they do them both very well. The first one was very small, had a small setting, and I think the simplicity of it is what makes it so charming and so great, whereas the second one was like, okay, it's a sequel, we're going to blow it up, we're going to, like you said, fish out of water and we're going to have him tell this other story going on, and while there are the same, a lot of the same beats in both movies, they are telling two very different kinds of ideas with, with the, the sandbox that they have.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think that it. It's great that, yeah, you, you, at first he's the, he's in command, he's, he's got home, uh, home territory with the house, and then this one, he has to figure it out. He's all alone. Logically, a kid in New York by himself isn't going to last that long, but he, he manages to, and that's the thing is. And I think it's also nice that there are adults that he outsmarts, like Marvin Harry. But there are also adults that are wise, wise to what he's up to. Like Tim Curry is trying to constantly prove it and I love the fact that he never really completely gets like the win against McCully Cause, even at the end, like his dad's, just like the dad and mom are. Like you literally had a child by himself in your hotel and you, you, you ran him off.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You were. You didn't think to go. Hey, are you okay? Do you need your? Where are your parents at?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you were, you were being too, five star rich, yeah, instead of actually concerning yourself with that's the lesson. A child.
Speaker 2:Listen, that's the. We need to stop with all this 1%, all this, all this, all these class level systems. All right, we got to look out for each other. That's what this movie is about.
Speaker 1:Yeah it is.
Speaker 2:It's actually when you think about it.
Speaker 1:I also think that this movie has a superior. I think the bird lady is a little bit more superior to the shovel man. Okay, I think her whole story and her whole arc and I think we get more of her.
Speaker 2:We do get more time with her, yeah.
Speaker 1:Showman, we just get the one good thing in the you know in the church, and well he's definitely like scary and then it's and then the church scene.
Speaker 2:He opens up and he kind he comes to the rescue at the end with her. Yeah, there's the whole like second half of the second act. It's it's kind of like a sit-down conversation and her in her place with her pigeons and stuff. Speaking of it, she has like this free seats, the Carnegie Hall yeah, her and the Ninja Turtles have like the best free seats in the house because she gets to go there and they get to go to Madison Square Garden and watch basketball, yeah.
Speaker 2:So figure stuff out, yeah you know, oh man Marley, he doesn't get that and so um.
Speaker 1:I like, I like bird lady a lot more and I also think the reunion with the mom.
Speaker 2:It's more, that's I mean it's more dangerous. It's yeah, way more she, because she has to get, she gets to New York, because the first one was just just get home.
Speaker 1:She's running around showing the picture. It's more, it's kind of more desperate. Yeah, it's like yeah, cuz it's like all she has to do is get home. She knows where he's at. In this one she gets to New York and it's now needle in a haystack time. It's like my child is somewhere in the city of eight million people. Yeah and she's running around and when they finally like see each other at Rockefeller and Kevin does the, I don't know if I forgive you, but then he runs.
Speaker 2:Yes, and I think it's more emotional and that's the thing everybody wants to touch on. They always, like you said, they always touch on, like the pranks and him beating up Marvin Harry, but they, it seems like they don't touch upon how well Constructed the story and the plot and the overarching story lines for each character is. Like like we talked about in the last episode, the plot is very much Macaulay running around doing his thing, kevin just having fun, but it's also the mom trying to get home with the first one. It's her trying to get to him in New York and and realizing, figuring out where he is. And it's because she, because she knows him and loves him and remembers, like he loves trees, I know where he's gonna be yeah and that's why they end up at the Rockefeller Christmas tree.
Speaker 2:So I think you know, honestly you asked me like which one's better. My personal choice is gonna be the first one, but I think that this does what all what great sequel do is it does takes what was great about the first one and Changes it up enough that and advances a story and Still makes it fun and a joy of experience. You know, if it was just a carbon copy of the first one, no one would watch it because you'd be like, yeah, same thing. It happened over again, you know, but it was.
Speaker 2:It's different enough and it's unique in its own nature that it's worth watching yeah and when you're watching home alone and you have time, you're like yeah, I'll go ahead and play on home alone too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure. But yeah, I think those are all the reasons I think it's. I probably like it more yeah. But yeah, I like both. I mean again, I do think it's an Adam St Lambson values, where it's like they're kind of interchangeable. I one day I might even like home alone more than I'm on to you.
Speaker 2:You know, for me obviously home.
Speaker 1:Stolzik? No, not at all, it's just. It's a sequel that works, I think.
Speaker 2:I think people that love the movies love the movies and you have the detractors that will just make those comments of it's just a sequel. It's literally doing the same thing as the first one and you're like, but it's not. It is, but it isn't. It's doing it all the it's doing a sequel, in all the right ways, I think it's like it's not.
Speaker 1:It's not Fixing what's not broken.
Speaker 2:Right, that's all it is because sometimes that's the problem with some some sequels is they're like well, we got it, we got to change it up, we got to do something different. And this one does the job of keeping similar things but still expanding the, the, the toy box, still Letting him explore new worlds and stuff.
Speaker 1:I mean like not to be the typical internet cinephile, but I think the most recent example that I'm worried about is Furiosa. It feels like they try to fix what wasn't broken. Yeah it looks overly CGI'd for a movie that was Brilliantly and mostly not CGI.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean there is CGI in Mad Max, but it's, it's built. It's built like we've talked about, it's built on the practical.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and this one looks more like it was done mostly, just it seems like it lacks practical effects.
Speaker 2:But, again.
Speaker 1:We just seem two minutes. Yeah, and so I'm just being the internet right now and prejudging something. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Is that could be an example of saying, like, well, how do we be different enough and try to fix what wasn't broken? Yeah you know, and so I do think that, yeah, I think that's the main thing.
Speaker 2:I think this, these two movies, it's like Adam's family and Adam's family values, like we talked about a couple months ago. It's a shame that we couldn't get a third one in the same World as this, but that's the problem. You wait to like this. The third one came out five years later, so you completely miss the window of like the magic.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's why I think some, that's why some of these legacy movies and stuff Don't work. It's like they want to try to capture that nostalgia, that magic that you had when the first one came out, but what you don't understand is like it's not gonna feel the same. I know that's a very broad term, but you like, from the terms of like it was shot on film, the the way New York looks right here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the way that I mean, well, the Colick Colick is gonna age, but it's still gonna be him. And you you probably would get a preteen McCulloch Colkin or something, but it's just not gonna have that same feel and design and look. And because, because you're gonna miss members of the team, it's it's like any and the Golden State Warriors in the Chicago Bulls you could try to like rip, you're gonna. Six years ago you say, hey, michael, let's try to run it again. But it's like I don't have my supporting cast anymore this movie is not gonna be the same.
Speaker 2:This team is not gonna be the same as it was. Yeah so it's a shame that we this goes into the the category of movies we wish had a trilogy, a proper, true trilogy, not these ones that came out later in my opinion I get because they always toy with the idea of the Home Alone sequel or legacy sequel.
Speaker 1:Yeah in various ways and to the point that Google made a commercial. Yeah that was kind of jokingly. Oh look, mcculloch Colkin still in this house. It's funny, but like I would hate it if they made a legacy sequel.
Speaker 2:The problem is the I mean, the first mistake they made was not having McCulloch Colkin in the third one. Yeah, now, obviously he probably. I think he had a lot issues as a child actor like.
Speaker 1:At this point, he'd very famously like separated from his parents. Yeah, they were just pretty much using him as their cash cow and he pretty much like I think, ever since he did that he had enough money that he felt like he had to do anything right.
Speaker 2:He's just like I'm good, this is my money and yeah, and I'm glad that he's dipping his toes back in acting on his terms. You know he's been on American Horror Story. I think he's had some stuff here and there. He's on a lot of YouTube stuff seems like a pro wrestling. Yeah, he's super in pro wrestling. We can't be mad about it. But he and he got his star on the walk of fame, which?
Speaker 1:is awesome. It was really hard it was a really heartwarming moment. You know, no hair showed up.
Speaker 2:She showed she was there, corey she made it and that's all that matters. Yeah so we'll court the rap things up. I mean, I don't think we've changed each other's minds, but I think the deep dive that we've taken discussion it makes me feel it supports the idea. I think that this movie for me is on the same, on the same level, as the first one.
Speaker 1:I think there's just less urgency to like change each other's minds. Yeah, I don't think it's a hot take to say either one's better than the other.
Speaker 2:I don't think so. That's the only problem with this.
Speaker 1:maybe this one yeah so this is not really a hot take. It's like the Adam's family we're doing the more out of just because we're following up main episodes right, yeah, it's controversial is future, and defense of the sepals might get.
Speaker 2:But that's, but yeah, that's, that's kind of Adam's family list. When it's the same is like well, we did the first one.
Speaker 1:We might as well talk about this as a greasest. The same grease to is better than grease. True, very true statement, but like it's a greedy.
Speaker 2:I need to go back and watch the Christmas performance from that for the holidays you do you do.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I like I. Yeah, I don't think it's a matter of necessarily change your mind. I think they both work. My only question to you, nick.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Did Kevin McAllister get like See, is there some financial trouble? Because first one's Paris, then it's just like Miami, the hotel they're in kind of shitty In Miami. It's the storyline that we didn't get. It's like a motel. It's not even a hotel, but then in the end they're in like a suite.
Speaker 2:So I don't know for me. He's mad that like he used up all, like the, he got all the room service and stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So maybe I'm thinking like maybe things aren't going so come on some hard times. Maybe Michael Jordan got a new agent.
Speaker 2:Okay, going along with your theory 92, so he's. He's in the middle of the run for the first, the first Dynasty maybe he's, maybe he's like, but hurt.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they got a chip and then he went and like got too big for his bridges and got a new agent.
Speaker 2:It's either that, cuz, cuz. The last one came in 93. I believe. So maybe this is the point where he's like talking about. You know, I'm thinking about going playing baseball for my dad.
Speaker 1:He says that's stupid Michael. And Michael said well, I'm getting a new agent was that.
Speaker 2:But now suddenly his dad's like like we got to save money on this, we can just buy stuff. The Michael Jordan money's gone.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I'm Paris this year's Miami. The motel is not on a beach.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do they go? Do they do? They just travel every year everywhere?
Speaker 1:I don't know. That does sound for a family whose home is so Christmasy they like bail just bail immediately. Like why do all the Christmas decorations if you're not gonna spend Christmas?
Speaker 2:at home. People, most people the Christmas the cranks are like we're gonna go on a cruise. We're not decorating this year, like yeah, that's like my literal parents.
Speaker 1:You have to like, essentially, get like a pitchfork at them to put up their Christmas tree. You'd like Pokemon put it up, come on, please.
Speaker 2:Come on.
Speaker 1:They're like, yeah, we're going on a cruise, like we're literally going on a cruise for Christmas this year. I'm Devastated, that's what if?
Speaker 2:what if that's a sequel? That had never happened? Was that they're like we're just gonna go on a cruise, it's safe, we're all gonna be together. He gets on the wrong boat.
Speaker 1:That could be fun, that could be fun.
Speaker 2:And Marvin, here You're on the boat. They're like Marvin's, just like listen, the cruise business is great, it's a bunch of rich.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of theft on cruise. Oh, see, see, there's a lot of theft on cruises.
Speaker 2:They're like. He's like I listen, I know a guy that you get on the boat. You just put all the stuff in there. You bring empty bags and luggage.
Speaker 1:That's the okay. So that's the trilogy that needed to happen is a preteen, kevin McAllister, because now he notices girls.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's all funny. He's gonna have a crush on the boat, yeah.
Speaker 1:Tim Curry's the captain After being fired from Waldorf Astoria the whole gang back together as a hotel gig, and then we'll add a third one somehow.
Speaker 2:I love.
Speaker 1:that's Good, that's really good, that's the trilogy that we didn't get and said we got the stupid one that Ebert Loves. So yeah, all right. No.
Speaker 2:I'm into it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm also into it, so that's good. I mean, that's really all I have to say. It's about the movie. I just I do like home on to a little bit better. Cool, I also think I like the house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, at the end it's more of a haunted house. It's definitely a creepy vibe. It's a lot more, a lot more dangerous.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that also fits my aesthetic more than the nice ritzy home.
Speaker 2:That's. I'm a Chicago house person. Core, you're a new broken New York kind of brownstone guy. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:I like the idea that apparently he's also got rich relatives that own a brownstone in New York City.
Speaker 2:They just not bother fixing it Eventually, corey, it's in the process.
Speaker 1:It's fine, I like it, but uh, you know, yeah, anything else, I think that's it. I think it's time to wrap it up. That's a wrap on our. It's a wrap on our season.
Speaker 2:Season four is in the books Corey in the books.
Speaker 1:We got some fun stuff coming. Yeah for the future, maybe even a spin-off series, we're not sure is it time I Love you time?
Speaker 2:Okay, we've talked interesting long and hard about it. Yeah, very exciting All right. Well, you know, corey, you're gonna be on cruise. I won't get to see you, so, uh, merry Christmas.
Speaker 1:Merry Christmas. I know you love this time of year.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:My family does not, so I'll be on a cruise.
Speaker 2:Listen.
Speaker 1:I made my mom watch Christmas with the cranks and she's like 100% like if y'all pulled that crap on me, I'd been on cruise. She's like if you tried to come home last minute and expect some parties, but I won't be here.
Speaker 2:Bye.
Speaker 1:The doors unlocked is whatever. Go find your own food.
Speaker 2:I will be on a cruise of course You're welcome to have Christmas with us anytime.
Speaker 1:I know. Thank you very much. So well, that's over loan. To that's in defense of that sequel, say goodnight Nick.
Speaker 2:Good night, nick.