What if 'Mean Girls' (the original 2004 version) was recast in 1984?
Imagine slipping into a time machine and landing in the heyday of 80s teen cinema—what would Tina Fey's "Mean Girls" look like with the stars of that rad decade? That's exactly the tantalizing scenario we chew over with the fabulous Aly Dale, as we embark on a wild ride through North Shore High with a retro twist. Tune in for a podcast that's as much a celebration of "Mean Girls" as it is a playful foray into the art of the hypothetical cast.
Strap in for a time-traveling journey through cinema as we juxtapose the teen movie landscapes of the 2000s against the backdrop of 1984's silver screen hits. With Aly in tow, we delve into the iconic films of 1984 that charmed audiences and set box office registers a-ringing, from "Splash" to "Beverly Hills Cop." Meanwhile, we don't shy away from debating the finer points of Roger Ebert's insights or pondering the tantalizing 'what-ifs' of alternate casting histories. This episode isn't just a podcast—it's a love letter to the film that shaped many filmgoers our age.
Wrap up your visit to 1984 with a heartfelt nod to the actors who enlivened "Mean Girls," as we pay tribute to Rachel McAdams' tour-de-force performance and reflect on Lindsay Lohan's Hollywood journey. The road from child star to adult actor is fraught with challenges, and we examine this transition through the lens of other famous names in the industry. Whether you're here for the '80s nostalgia, a fresh take on a beloved film, or the simple joy of "what might have been," our episode is the ultimate high school movie makeover, served with a side of cultural reflection and a dash of whimsy. We can only hope this episode is worthy of the title "fetch!"
TIMECODES:
(00:01:00) Intro
(00:03:54) About the Movie
(00:11:44) Useless Critic Stats
(00:15:11) 1984: Box Office & Oscars
(00:26:58) Notable Films
(00:30:05) What Changes About the Film?
(00:36:44) Casting Rules
(00:39:59) 30 Seconds or Less Casting
Main Cast
(00:44:01) Janice
(00:50:31) Aaron
(00:58:59) Karen
(01:08:22) Gretchen
(01:16:19) Regina
(01:23:33) Caddy
(01:33:56) Final Cast
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Ash Hurry (@filmexplorationah)
Cass Elliott (@take5cass)
Voice of the Time Machine:
Kristi Rothrock (@letzshake)
Editing by:
Nick Growall
Featured Music:
"Quantum Recast Theme" - Cory Williams
"Charmer" - Coat
"Revival" - Daniele Musto
"Pukka" - Bellodrone
"Kings and Queens" - Wicked Cinema
"Kiss the Cat" - Al Town
"Birdcage" - Al Town
"Passenger" - Abloom
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What if 'Mean Girls' (the original 2004 version) was recast in 1984?
Imagine slipping into a time machine and landing in the heyday of 80s teen cinema—what would Tina Fey's "Mean Girls" look like with the stars of that rad decade? That's exactly the tantalizing scenario we chew over with the fabulous Aly Dale, as we embark on a wild ride through North Shore High with a retro twist. Tune in for a podcast that's as much a celebration of "Mean Girls" as it is a playful foray into the art of the hypothetical cast.
Strap in for a time-traveling journey through cinema as we juxtapose the teen movie landscapes of the 2000s against the backdrop of 1984's silver screen hits. With Aly in tow, we delve into the iconic films of 1984 that charmed audiences and set box office registers a-ringing, from "Splash" to "Beverly Hills Cop." Meanwhile, we don't shy away from debating the finer points of Roger Ebert's insights or pondering the tantalizing 'what-ifs' of alternate casting histories. This episode isn't just a podcast—it's a love letter to the film that shaped many filmgoers our age.
Wrap up your visit to 1984 with a heartfelt nod to the actors who enlivened "Mean Girls," as we pay tribute to Rachel McAdams' tour-de-force performance and reflect on Lindsay Lohan's Hollywood journey. The road from child star to adult actor is fraught with challenges, and we examine this transition through the lens of other famous names in the industry. Whether you're here for the '80s nostalgia, a fresh take on a beloved film, or the simple joy of "what might have been," our episode is the ultimate high school movie makeover, served with a side of cultural reflection and a dash of whimsy. We can only hope this episode is worthy of the title "fetch!"
TIMECODES:
(00:01:00) Intro
(00:03:54) About the Movie
(00:11:44) Useless Critic Stats
(00:15:11) 1984: Box Office & Oscars
(00:26:58) Notable Films
(00:30:05) What Changes About the Film?
(00:36:44) Casting Rules
(00:39:59) 30 Seconds or Less Casting
Main Cast
(00:44:01) Janice
(00:50:31) Aaron
(00:58:59) Karen
(01:08:22) Gretchen
(01:16:19) Regina
(01:23:33) Caddy
(01:33:56) Final Cast
Thanks for listening; If you feel like supporting us, this is where you do that!
BuyMeACoffee
Check out or other content/socials here.
Linktree
Hosts:
Cory Williams (@thelionfire)
Nick Growall (@nickgrowall)
Co-Hosts (Season 5):
Aly Dale (@alydale55)
Ash Hurry (@filmexplorationah)
Cass Elliott (@take5cass)
Voice of the Time Machine:
Kristi Rothrock (@letzshake)
Editing by:
Nick Growall
Featured Music:
"Quantum Recast Theme" - Cory Williams
"Charmer" - Coat
"Revival" - Daniele Musto
"Pukka" - Bellodrone
"Kings and Queens" - Wicked Cinema
"Kiss the Cat" - Al Town
"Birdcage" - Al Town
"Passenger" - Abloom
*Music and licenses through Soundstripe
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Speaker 2:Another a today be On an all Because they were going shopping. People take a human form in Regina George.
Speaker 4:She told me that you like Aaron Famil. I could talk to him for you if you want.
Speaker 1:I knew that this would be settled in the animal world. Welcome to another episode of Quantum Recast. I'm your host, corey. With me, as always, is Nick, and try umphantly returning to the podcast. After Barbie, after Barbie, after.
Speaker 2:Barbie. It was our last appearance from Ms Allison Dale. Hello, we taught Happy be back, just be a professional, just be a professional, all right, yeah.
Speaker 1:So hey, this is your first time here on Quantum Recast Um. God bless you.
Speaker 4:Thank you so much for your support.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, hey, we're glad that you stumbled across us somehow. Maybe you stumbled across us on social media, because we're on all of them.
Speaker 4:All of the social media's Corey that I know of I.
Speaker 1:There's new ones all the time, but as far as I know, I'm caught up.
Speaker 4:The ones that matter, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:We're on the major ones, even, even the rufflets.
Speaker 4:Yes, yes, I don't know what our Twitter social media page looks like it's it's there, it's there.
Speaker 1:It's probably a lot of. Do American history acts? It's probably a lot of that. But yeah, no, for sure we're there and we're kind of engaged with us. That's, we will talk back. We're not. We don't have ghost writers, we can't afford them.
Speaker 3:I can't.
Speaker 1:And so it's really us on the social media's. If you've never listened to this before, you've clicked on an episode that says the title of a movie and the wrong year. We're not idiots. That's what we do on this podcast. We take a movie and we uproot it out of its original release year, and then we take it forwards and or backwards in time and we drop it in a new release year because we want to know what that movie would look like in that year, especially the cast.
Speaker 4:That's right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're going to recast. If you've clicked on this, you've clicked on mean girls and it says 1984. And it's very possible that you listened to our last episode, which we were in 1984.
Speaker 4:Going back to back Corey back to back on 84. First time ever.
Speaker 1:Not really sure why 84 deserves it.
Speaker 4:I don't know. I mean, you love the 80s, so it works. I love 85, though, but that's very sacred ground, corey, it is very sacred ground.
Speaker 1:84 is just like we're cruising in 80, 85.
Speaker 4:It's the prelude, the prologue.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can mess with 84 a little bit more, so that's why we're here twice. It's also because the hook was great for 84, our previous episode. But we also just thought we're doing a teen movie and what's better than it's kind of like the real birth of teen movies.
Speaker 4:It really is. Yeah, 84, right, yeah, pretty much, at least as we know them. Well.
Speaker 1:Before that, it's teen, it's R rated sex comedies and getting murdered in the woods, right, yeah, yeah, they weren't really learning anything about themselves.
Speaker 4:Right yeah.
Speaker 1:You never had that. You know the epiphany at Kent Crystal Lake and then just murdered right there.
Speaker 4:You know, Jason, I think there's more to life than hackin' and slashin' and sex.
Speaker 1:And then get ya and then just dead right there. Machete to the face, that's what you get for thinking yeah, so we're doing mean girls and we're mainly celebrating the release of the.
Speaker 4:Of the new one. Remake musical whatever it is, the movie version of the Broadway musical based on the movie from 2004.
Speaker 2:Based on a book. Got it. I didn't know it was based on a book. It is actually Based on a book Interesting.
Speaker 1:And so to properly do this, we have to really dive into the movie mean girls, and then we have to dive back into 1984 to get an idea of what was going on in cinema. We need to get a good cinematic feel, yeah.
Speaker 3:Of 1984.
Speaker 1:So mean girls, released April 30th 2004. Guys, I was like 20 days from graduating high school.
Speaker 4:Nice.
Speaker 1:I don't remember this movie having any, maybe just because it was the end.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you didn't have a summer going. Like this is, this is just like high school, like I can't wait to like see how everybody thinks about this.
Speaker 1:I feel like mean girls probably had more of an impact on the class of 2005, but they watched it right summer in the senior year, absolutely. And so, for me, though, it's just like we're at the end. We have our senioritis. Who cares about teenage movies? We're going to college.
Speaker 4:I'm free man, I'm finally free.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, no, so I don't really remember this movie having much to do, even though I'm like right there. It is currently streaming on Paramount. If you have not seen it and you need to pause this Spoilers or your only, or maybe you just saw mean girls, the musical and theaters and didn't know that it's there was a original movie. Original movie. Oh no, it's on Paramount Plus or I'm sure you can rent it on the old Amazon for probably $3.
Speaker 4:Well, directed by Mark Waters of Freaky Friday and Ghosts of Girlfriends Pasts, wow, okay, so he's a little he's just a low hand working for I'm assuming it's the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, not the old one, not the original one, not the Jodie Foster. No, no, no.
Speaker 1:All right, okay, cool. So he's two time low hand alumni here for director. Wow, both of his movies kind of fit the same genre, but this one doesn't have a supernatural element, I see.
Speaker 2:Freaky Friday, for the record also holds up. It is great. It is such a fun movie.
Speaker 1:We may be jumping the gun here, but can I just say that my top three low hand movies are Freaky Friday, mean Girls and then Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen. Really, yeah 2004.
Speaker 2:Really, man, she was just. She was just banger at the banger at the banger. She was the moment, guys, she was killing it.
Speaker 1:Wow, all right. So yeah, I like Freaky Friday too. I do prefer the original, but the remake's phenomenal.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I love Jamie Lee. Written by. The script is written by Tina Fey, but it's based on a book, Ally. Yes, it's based on Rosalind Weisman's 2002 self-help book Queen Bees and Wanna Bees.
Speaker 4:That's right.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure how I feel about that being a self-help book. Is this like a what's?
Speaker 1:it about? Is it like a teenage girl?
Speaker 4:I mean, it's basically a self-help book to help girls navigate high school and all clicks and basically Mean Girls, basically. And so Tina Fey just saw it, I guess, and said, hey, I want to write a book based on this, but it's obviously going to be a movie and a story, and I think the thing that she sold it on to Weisman was like it's going to have a good core message to it and that's kind of where she was like okay. I'm open to this.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's fair. I might have to check it out and just see how accurate it is to the teenage you know, Because, I started high school in 2006, so I'm really interested to see if any of this would be applicable to-.
Speaker 4:For sure, because it came out in 2002 and they had and I guess she's done some updates to it to include like social media and stuff as well.
Speaker 2:That could actually be really helpful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, but it just seems presumptuous to think that everyone has the same high school experience.
Speaker 4:Is this true?
Speaker 1:I went to high school in South Oklahoma, where I did not thrive.
Speaker 4:Well, ali went in California, but that's my thing.
Speaker 1:I think if I had gone to high school in San Diego I would have thrived. I feel like I just already have this weird, stupid hippie SoCal thing going on.
Speaker 2:I mean, you all saw pictures of me in high school, so thriving is not exactly how I would have described myself.
Speaker 1:Did your Avril Lavigne thing get you through? Oh?
Speaker 2:man, I was obsessed.
Speaker 1:Her second album, no you guys have no idea, but how did your high school handle that?
Speaker 2:Were they cool with it. So, if I'm being honest, my high school we didn't really have too much of a click problem. We really just didn't. We didn't have. I don't know it was one, but I also I don't want to be that person, but I have a tendency to get along with a lot of different types of people, and so I didn't really have too many issues. Now, freshman year I did, but that's a whole other story. But really, like the biggest thing that I can think of from high school is probably we actually had our own burn book that got distributed at our spring homecoming. Oh, dang.
Speaker 2:Where the senior girls and I wasn't there, unfortunately, but apparently somebody leaked it and it apparently papers everywhere. I mean very, very similar to the movie.
Speaker 4:So yeah, was there a fight that broke out and everyone was making animal noises?
Speaker 2:I don't think so. No, not animal noises. For sure, I can guarantee that. But I think they had to have an assembly kind of like in the movie. I know that, like my aunt, who was a very revered teacher, had to get involved and be like don't do this, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 1:My high school did a similar thing but again predates this movie like by a couple of months, with someone just like or a group of people like did a bunch of class favorites, but they were like like sluttiest girl and like a douchiest guy, or like her biggest male genitalia, biggest boobs, and there's really horrible things that would not end up in the yearbook. They were telling the truth, corey.
Speaker 4:They're getting it out there. That's what it was. They were like. Here's what the people really want to know. We researched they're supposed to have voted on Years of research finally comes out Exactly, and I remember like these are the results, and I remember those dudes got in some trouble. So like a mansion. What's shocking.
Speaker 1:And I think they put some stuff about teachers too, so that was real.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh, my that's spicy.
Speaker 1:So yeah, Okay, so Allie and I have lived this.
Speaker 4:As far as I know, there was no burn books or a war, terrible tacky awards going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not to say that Nick's high school career was easy.
Speaker 4:No, no, we don't want to be little. You we know.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you, we're trying to live up to dad. Trying to play football and be a good little boy. Watch rated our movies.
Speaker 4:Why don't you want my dream? It's a good dream.
Speaker 1:It's not my dream, dad. Yeah, nick lived Varsity Blues.
Speaker 4:That's yeah. If we want to talk more in line with myself, friday night lights and varsity blues right, that's. That's the thread, right there.
Speaker 1:That's Nick's trauma. I mean, I heard me girl Nick's living varsity blues. So all right, that's awesome. Wow, Do we even want to go on? I feel like we all just had a therapeutic moment.
Speaker 4:I mean it's good, but let's keep going, All right?
Speaker 1:Stick deeper, can you handle it? All right, the budget. Saturday Night Live creator, lord Michaels, produced the film on an 18 million dollar. What, wow? It was only 18 million dollars.
Speaker 2:That's way lower than I would have anticipated. Yeah, cheat back then. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Made 130 at the box office. I would have thought it made more, but same. I bet it had some serious DVD legs. Oh yeah For sure. Winner of many teen choice at MTV movie awards, notably for Lindsay Lohan and Rachel McAdams, did get snubbed at the Oscars? Obviously yes.
Speaker 4:Which we'll get into in a moment. But obviously this was the Lindsay Lohan moment. She had worked her way up since Freaky Friday, parent Trap in 98. And this was like right at the peak of like her powers, basically, I would say. And then Rachel McAdams, it was her breakout role Because actually she did notebook and this. They came out and it obviously put her on the map for sure.
Speaker 2:What two great movies to start your career out, right Wow.
Speaker 4:It's kind of wild?
Speaker 1:I don't remember where she came. Where did Lindsay Lohan come from?
Speaker 4:Like just Parent Trap. Yeah, she was there, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:That's right. Yeah, it's like there because at some point we got to a place where if it's a popular teenage girl in movies, I'm like wondering what Disney movie or show they came out of yeah Right.
Speaker 2:She only had a Disney Channel TV movie called Get a Clue which came out a few years before, and then there was like a big haul alpha from Little Rascals.
Speaker 1:I remember that one. Oh man, you're going to go far on this podcast. The bug haul drop Wow. Do you know the name of the kid that was Spanky.
Speaker 2:No, but I do know that, if I'm not mistaken, he went to OU and no. I think it was him that went to OU and I actually know somebody around our area who met him Made out with him no, no. I mean, that was Spanky, that was.
Speaker 1:Rascals, that's a hard flex. Surprisingly good kisser and I would be impressed with anyone that claimed it.
Speaker 4:I thought wow that's awesome.
Speaker 1:I also don't know his name. I wasn't trying to flex on you.
Speaker 2:No, I just remembered him. That would have been wild if I whipped it out, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would have been like wow OK.
Speaker 2:Huge Little Rascals fan over here.
Speaker 1:We're pivoting and doing Little Rascals in 84. Surprise, all right, we need to talk about useless critic stats for mean girls. Imdb gives it a 7.1 out of 10. Dang, that's pretty good. All right, rotten Tomatoes and Critic Score, which one's first?
Speaker 4:Rotten Tomatoes is the first one there. Yeah, but is it? The Critic Score is on the left. Ok, all right.
Speaker 1:So the critics love this more. They did 84% Critic Score Audience Score only 66%.
Speaker 4:Listen. Listen this is ahead of its time.
Speaker 1:Metacritic we have 66 out of 188.1 out of 10. It's like the inverse.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's wild.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that is wild. Ok, because Metacritic came later.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're trying to be more prestigious and snobby and it's like yeah and that's like now.
Speaker 1:The critics are like this movie's dumb because it got cool later and the critics are a lot like high schoolers. All right, cool. Letterbox. 3.8 out of 5. That's solid.
Speaker 4:It's pretty solid, pretty solid Letterbox is mostly cinephiles.
Speaker 1:Our own reviews Alley gives it a 4.5, nearly a perfect film for Alley.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that this was going to be included.
Speaker 1:It's all out there now I really enjoy this movie, nick, a solid four stars Solid four stars yeah. Mine's just a 2.5.
Speaker 4:Definitely beefed up after the rewatch for the episode. Oh, OK.
Speaker 1:Oh, so was it already rated.
Speaker 4:You went, and gave it back, I had a 3.5. I mean, we bumped it up a half a star, boosted it up.
Speaker 1:OK, I'm just at 2.5 stars, I sorry.
Speaker 4:Hey, that's a B right, that's the middle of the road, it's a half yeah.
Speaker 1:Because it's out of five right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, out of five, I think it's half 50%.
Speaker 1:OK, I have half love of this movie, sure.
Speaker 4:What did our friend Roger Ebert have to say about this?
Speaker 1:The man. I still can't understand this guy. It's like you think you know what he's going to do and then he just turns on you. He gave it three out of four stars. I mean, that's solid. He's a fan, he's a fan, he's a fan. Some quotes In a wasteland of dumb movies about teenagers. Mean Girls is a smart and funny one. It even contains some wisdom, although I hesitate to mention that lest I scare off its target audience.
Speaker 4:Oh there he just insulted teenagers. It's like a back end of compliment.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:It's pretty good, but I don't know if the teenagers will appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's some wisdom in there, but you know teenagers are going to listen. He says the screenplay is both a comic and a sociological achievement. I think he tried too hard here. Ok, although many of producer Lord Michael's movies with SNL cast members have been broad, dumb and obvious, I resent that because I like most of them. This one has a light and infectious touch. Pracer's Lindsay Lohan, who, at 17, provides a center by being centered. She never allows the character to tilt into caricature and for that matter, even the plastics seem real. I kind of agree there.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Actually, Lindsay Lohan is very good at being the grounded one.
Speaker 2:For sure Agree.
Speaker 1:Will teenage audiences walk out of Mean Girls determined to break with the culture of cliques, gossip and rules for popularity? Of course not. Breakfast Club didn't do it, not a chance. But they may find it interesting that the geeks are more fun than the queen movies, that teachers have feelings and that you'll be happier as yourself than as anybody else. Thanks, dad, well, ebert's Ghost, if you're listening. Teachers are leaving in droves from education, so I don't think anybody learned that teachers have feelings.
Speaker 4:We didn't learn anything.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, listen at Breakfast Club. What are you going to do? Mean Girls wasn't going to do it. No, definitely not. You just watch these movies as a teenager and go. That's so accurate. That kid's a nerd. You don't learn anything. So, all right, allie, you chose Mean Girls. You bet I did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Mean Girls. Mean Girls is well. First off, I felt you all needed some more chick flicks.
Speaker 1:That's fair, we'll take it. Just being honest here there's too much testosterone on this podcast.
Speaker 2:But also, in my opinion, it is a fantastic movie that came out at a really good time for comedy. So I think it's funny that I'm saying this, after Ebert said, in the midst of a bunch of teenage comedies. But you think about the 2000s and comedies in the 2000s, and that's when parody movies started getting really popular Scary movie one through three, because those are the only ones that exist and other movies such as Judd Apatow's movies he also hit his stride in the 2000s with Superbad and Knocked Up and 40 year old Virgin, and I believe, forgetting Sarah Marshall was 2010, which is one of my absolute favorites. But Mean Girls came out at the perfect time for comedies in my opinion, and it's just a fun movie, plus, I figure, with the remake of the remake that just came out, I feel like it's appropriate for us to talk about, to recast and discuss it. So that's the main reasons I decided to choose Mean Girls.
Speaker 4:We're just adding. You know it's now a 20 year generational tradition. Now, in 2044, they'll make another one and we'll have to prepare for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're not wrong.
Speaker 4:Well, it's fine because we'll be actual adults and we won't care.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're not wrong. Yeah, well, and Mean Girls too. The cast is stellar, in my opinion. Everybody does a really great job of portraying their own characters and overall it's just a fun movie and it's also a cultural. It's culturally iconic if you think about it. I mean, even if you've never seen Mean Girls, I guarantee you've heard that sketch. I guarantee you've heard of a burn book I guarantee you've heard of. She doesn't even go here. I mean, the movie is so quotable and so culturally iconic and the fact that we're 20 years later and we are still quoting this movie is, I mean, I feel like that's a, that's a whole huge thing on its own.
Speaker 4:It's those early 2000s movies that really not only have sustained themselves, not just in terms of quality, but also when they became embedded into meme culture, Because now it's like part of like a vernacular on online to communicate with stuff. But you know, going back to rewatch it you really get why it stayed, had so much staying power and because of all that quotability it's considered one of the most quotable movies of all time.
Speaker 3:And it's.
Speaker 4:A lot of that is due to Tina Fey's writing. It's very funny, it's very biting it's commentary on, like high school social life. I think it just nails it at a perfect time and place, like you said, when the anchormans of the world are going on. I think it just was in a perfect time, perfect spot.
Speaker 1:What's the date? There's the stupid date.
Speaker 4:October 3rd.
Speaker 1:October 3rd. Okay, all right, I just don't bring up the cultural impact, and I was like there's a day that's officially been dubbed mean girls day.
Speaker 2:Technically there's two different days because, if you think about it, you could also say we. You know, on Wednesdays we wear pink. So there are two important days within that movie.
Speaker 4:That's just every Wednesday, that's every.
Speaker 3:Wednesday not just one Wednesday. I can't do that.
Speaker 2:No I have no pink in my closet. I would not survive in the plastics.
Speaker 1:No, no, I do the March 25th breakfast club date. Still I'm old. That's my social media post. Okay, so you're bringing up all the teen movies around the time and I was kind of thinking like was there not great teen movies going on in the 2000s? And okay, oh, like listen, mean girls might have done something. Like you're right, because I mean you 99, you're coming off like American Pie movies which you know, love them or hate them. Yeah, I mean you had she's All that which just created the Bette movie.
Speaker 1:And within a year you have not another teen movie which is just a parody of. She's All that. But then you have a lot of trash. You really do. You have like Sugar and Spice. The bank robbing cheerleader movie. The Girl Next Door came out the same year.
Speaker 4:Oh that's more of a launchy. That's a throwback to a launchy kind of thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's like a meal hush like somehow moving next door to a porn star.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like that gets like. Somehow the porn industry gets involved in the high school.
Speaker 4:It's you're not really sure how it got made. What it's like 2000s were a weird time, corey.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's wild. You have Walk to Remember. That's just sad. Yeah, that's just, that's just terribly sad.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you basically had you basically had like sad romantic movie where somebody probably dies or you. Eventually you got like Mean Girls. But Mean Girls really does stand out on its own.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying, though, you get Mean Girls, but then you literally watch a change happen in teen movies that by 2007 you get Juno and Superbad and Charlie Bartlett all in the same year, and those are all very clever, well written, huge stars in them. Like teen movies.
Speaker 4:It's almost like they were had to be reminded that, oh yeah, there's this demographic and audience that doesn't have to be talked down to like they're idiots.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, all right. Tina Fey and Mean Girls. Maybe I'll give it a three stars on that box.
Speaker 3:Hey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe they earned some stuff there. All right, cool, all right, wow. So does that mean anything else you need to say about it?
Speaker 2:No, I just I will say it's almost embarrassing to admit, but so for those of you who don't know me in real life, I had a really bad tendency to rewatch the same movies over and over and over again, to the point where I would well I can. I have several movies like Memorized. I listen to movies while I'm at work and I can quote certain ones, and apparently Mean Girls is one where I didn't realize. I've seen it so many times. I can quote it from the beginning to the end, but it's a great movie. If you haven't seen it, highly recommend. I recommended it to my niece the other day and it's a good one.
Speaker 4:She didn't opt for the Renee Rapp version that just came out. No, no.
Speaker 1:Wait, has anyone here seen it?
Speaker 4:Me and Ally went with a group of friends to watch it.
Speaker 2:Yeah we watched it Cool. Oh yeah, by the way, we watched it.
Speaker 1:Haven't seen it, I just realized everyone else in the room went to go watch it together. That must have been fun, oh sorry it must have been good for the pod.
Speaker 4:Listen, the vibe that you put out was that you were not super into the idea of the Mean Girls.
Speaker 1:I mean no, no, was it good, Was it good?
Speaker 4:I think it was a decent update of the movie and I think it being a musical helps it out a lot because it allows it to have, like, a lot of fun cinematically.
Speaker 1:Yes, are the songs good Like? Is this a Hamilton caliber thing we can be singing?
Speaker 4:these songs for years or what? I don't think so, but I think they were. They were fun and entertaining at the same time and they fit the characters well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've listened to the soundtrack a little bit outside of, but if I'm being honest, if we weren't doing this podcast, I wouldn't have watched it.
Speaker 2:But, I was surprised at how enjoyable it was and how much fun I had with it. I think that, like Nick said, I think that it did a really good job of updating everything you know and it could have been really obnoxious and bringing up you know like TikTok and stuff, but I feel like it handled those types of cultural updates such like you know, such as social media and all of that. I think it handled it pretty well yeah.
Speaker 4:It really implemented camera phones.
Speaker 2:TikTok, all that stuff really well.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and. But the thing I will say is that I think this one is definitely a star, making turn for Renee Rapp, who's already been on the come up, but whereas the other one, there were so many stars that came out of it. I would say Okay. Of the main girls.
Speaker 2:Yep, I would agree with that.
Speaker 1:All right, cool cool, all right, that means we got to go back to 1984.
Speaker 4:Sorry for not inviting you Is there a it's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 1:No, it's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 4:If you say it again, it's not fine, it's fine, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1:Do you watch? Do you like? Just watch all the movies we do on the podcast with the other person?
Speaker 3:No, I go to.
Speaker 1:England every time, you could probably FaceTime Ash and just point it at the TV, and you know if I have a good time. So all right, all right. All right, we do have to go back to 1984.
Speaker 4:Again, Again.
Speaker 1:we were just there it looks very similar. There's the Pepsi's clear. It's weird. So but we're going to go through this. In case you didn't listen to Hook, maybe just tape Peter Pan or Robin Williams. God bless you if that's true. I mean that's horrible, but like we are going to go through it. So what people were watching in 1984. We consult the great box office top 10.
Speaker 1:That's right Worldwide in year released in 1984, releases coming in at number 10, splash, which, again I think I asked the success, I think Bush, that's the Tom Hanks.
Speaker 3:That's right. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1:Number nine Star Trek 3, search for Spock. I think they find them.
Speaker 4:I think so.
Speaker 1:Eight Romancing the Stone. That's correct, Douglas. Yeah, that's right, that's right. Okay, all right, seven Footloose.
Speaker 4:That's Kevin Bacon. I know that. That was good. That was good.
Speaker 1:I watched Footloose like once a year. All right, Six Police Academy. The first one which honestly they don't get good to a pretty good one. So controversial statement, I'm sure, for someone out there. Five Karate Kid I cannot believe this.
Speaker 2:On the number five, four Gremlins why One of the best Christmas mood I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding, we're in the world where people are watching Gremlins in 1984. All right, number three, nick, you can tell me what number this is, but Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Number two Two Ghostbusters One. And then number one, beverly Hills Cop. Yep, that is wild. I don't think I like the Beverly Hills Cop movies that much, so maybe I need to rewatch them.
Speaker 4:I think it's time for a rewatch. Probably rewatch them. I love the third one. Okay, I love the third one. They're making a fourth one.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to find hold, so I'm all in.
Speaker 1:So, all right, the Oscars. So what were the cinephiles really into in 1984? I do remember not knowing much of this Supporting actress Peggy Ashcroft. A passage to India.
Speaker 3:Nope, no one Watch this. In the last episode.
Speaker 1:No Supporting actor. Hang In your for the Killing Fields.
Speaker 3:Hang S yes get it right, hang S.
Speaker 1:Hang S, hang S, hang S, hang S, hang S, hang S. One for places in the heart.
Speaker 3:Have seen that.
Speaker 1:Have seen that, and the best actor was F Marie A Abraham Amadeus have seen that one have not he killed.
Speaker 4:Mozart Corey.
Speaker 1:Mozart, I know that, so I never needed to see it. Last section of your spoiler for me. All right, I know the ending. The nominees for Best Picture that Year were the Killing Fields, a passage to India, places in the heart a soldier story, and the winner was Amadeus.
Speaker 4:So and I think you know what's weird about the 80s is that a lot of those period pieces were the big Oscar movies. And there's a lot of them I just haven't seen or just wasn't really into and they just don't peak my interest. Amadeus we watched in school, like in our music class, and but it's, I do think it's one I want to rewatch, but I do remember it being pretty, pretty decent. Yeah, I have a theory, yeah.
Speaker 1:So those movies to us when we were kids in the 80s, slash, 90s.
Speaker 3:they look boring, they do look boring, that's the thing you don't want to see it.
Speaker 1:But as adults we'll go watch Napoleon because we're like that looks interesting and I should probably know about Napoleon and his Joachim and Ridley, you know.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I think it's just like it's hard to go back and watch those movies because you're like ingrained in your brain they're boring.
Speaker 3:That's fair.
Speaker 1:But the same exact movies that come out now. We're like, no, we'll watch them. So I think it's just that, I think you just like, you just put it in this weird like kid box.
Speaker 4:For me it's an aesthetic thing Really Okay, like it's almost like the cinematography looks, and I'm sure I'm gonna hate that. It's just not as intriguing to me, okay, and it seems like they're all set in like the 1700s, and everyone's wearing wigs, and so people wore wigs.
Speaker 2:I mean, they did, they did.
Speaker 3:Gee snack, yeah, read a book.
Speaker 1:I watched the Patriot All right. So that's the, I'm sorry, thank you If you listen to Hook and you've already gone through that. If not, that's hey. That's what's happening in 1984. A lot, of, a lot of period pieces and a lot of things that would become franchises down the road, because that was Star Trek 3 and then, like you get police academy and karate kid, we're still making those ghostbusters.
Speaker 2:Indiana.
Speaker 1:Jones.
Speaker 3:Beverly.
Speaker 1:Hills Cop. We're still making Geez. Oh my gosh, and I couldn't get a Footloose 3 like seriously.
Speaker 2:What the world? There's two Footloose movies. Well no, there's just a crappy remake. Oh gotcha, Okay, there's just been like at least four with Kevin Bacon.
Speaker 4:They go town to town letting people dance.
Speaker 1:By three. It's John Lithgow and Kevin Bacon in some sort of duo's like contest. It's a road movie Like yeah, they're just, you know, they're just out there trying to win money to save his church. And, like they realize, the only town they have is Kevin teaching John Lithgow how to dance.
Speaker 4:I'd watch that and he had.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, I'd watch that which had a real time machine, all right. So, guys, we obviously did this last time, but I'm sure we can come up with new stuff. Are there notable films from 1984 like that you have seen want to see? I recommend Gene Simmons runaway. Oh dang it.
Speaker 4:I should watch that. I ended up watching Last Starfighter for the first time. Okay, it's a solid little sci-fi. Star Wars want to be, you know. I mean I liked that it had like this fun idea of like the video game is used arcade video games use as a recruitment device for Starfighters to save the universe.
Speaker 1:But it definitely the military and Call of Duty.
Speaker 4:Now you made it bad. Now you made it bad. Okay, I take back what I said. I will say it's a movie that needed, one of the rare movies that needed a bigger budget.
Speaker 1:It's fair Space propaganda is better than real military. All right, so all right, Allie anything, so I failed the assignment.
Speaker 2:I was, I didn't know about this, so I did not watch anything from 1984. However, I got to be honest. There's a couple that I haven't seen that I'm probably I'm almost ashamed to admit that I haven't seen them and I call myself.
Speaker 4:It's a safe space. This is a. Yeah, I'm so worried. This is it. It's wonderful, footloose.
Speaker 1:I think I've seen Footloose. Okay, I don't like that. You said that I think I've seen it all the way through. If you've seen Footloose, you would know. I think you've seen Footloose.
Speaker 2:You've seen Footloose I know for sure I've seen parts of it. I don't know if I've seen it in its entirety, Just like I don't think I've seen Ghostbusters in its entirety now that I think about it, what about Ghostbusters 2?
Speaker 3:I don't think I've seen that one at all. Okay, we'll just watch that one. Okay, I'll add that to my list. Don't listen to that.
Speaker 2:And then I also have not seen Karate Kid. I'll be honest, there's not a whole lot of 80s movies that I've seen outside of, like the blockbusters, like Back to the Future and like Star Wars and Indiana Jones and stuff.
Speaker 4:I'm being. Y'all said this was a safe space. You're just talking. You're just talking to Captain 80s, I know. That's why I feel like I can't.
Speaker 2:I can't look you in the eye. I can feel like I just disappointed. I don't expect other people to be the 80s person.
Speaker 1:I just love the 80s in terms of cinema and music. Honestly, I'm learning. That's fair. I'm getting into new wave lately. For somebody it's so good though. But like okay, have you been watching Cobra Kai Like? Okay, that's fair, it's like you're not one of those people, that's just like only watched Cobra Kai and don't have any of it, because those people exist.
Speaker 2:And I'm just like put some mac. I'm terrible at watching shows anyways, so yeah, that's fair. That's just not for me, but I'm willing to give it a go. I think I've actually seen you know what. This is kind of embarrassing, but I'm going to admit it. I think I've seen the Karate Kid with Hillary Swank, but I haven't seen any of the others.
Speaker 4:The next Karate Kid.
Speaker 1:Okay, Hillary Swank's Karate Kid is phenomenal.
Speaker 2:I really enjoyed it as a kid, like the part with the eagle and everything.
Speaker 1:The four movies are all great and they're all canon.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm glad that that turned out better than Pat Merida's in them.
Speaker 1:It's canon, it's fair, all right. There's a movie from 1904 that I really want to watch and it's always on my list, but, like Ali said, sometimes we're creatures of habit. We have watched the next, the only person on the watch list that goes through them.
Speaker 3:I try.
Speaker 1:I'm like, hey, I should watch this. I'm like you know what? Or I could watch like fans move the paradise but racing the moon. It's like it's about two soldiers right before they're deployed to World War. Ii in like Southern California and they're just like it's their last night before and it's Sean Penn and Nicholas Cage, so it just sounds like a rad time.
Speaker 4:I'd watch that so it.
Speaker 1:Just I don't know. Those two together seem like chaos. So we'll see. I'll watch it and check it out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, let me know, let me know, all right.
Speaker 1:So does this movie change if we take it from 2004 to 1984?
Speaker 4:Well, I think that it builds off of what came before it to an extent, like you've got the breakfast clubs of the world and heathers that came before it and I think it has some continuation of that kind of cinematic storytelling of like hey, being a teenager is hard, high school sucks, like, and we shouldn't have all these clicks and stuff going on Like that's a general theme going on throughout those. But I think it will be like the style of writing I think doesn't come into like a fold until you get to like a heathers where it's very like tongue-in-cheek a little bit. So I think it'll just be pulling that ahead of its time a little bit. Like I think if it was actually released in this year it would be seen as like oh, it was really ahead of its time and like people may not have gotten it at the time or something. But I do think it fits right in with pretty in pink and all these other ones that come up Sweet 16 candles as like this teenage coming of age style movie.
Speaker 1:It very much. Does you know we're taking it back. So I mean like, obviously we can watch anything with a certain kind of lens and go, eh, things are problematic 20 years later, which people get over it. That's just how the world work. Hopefully you grew as a person in the last 20 years and like some jokes aren't as funny, you know. Or he went oh, I know not to laugh at that now.
Speaker 1:Right you know absolutely, and so it's stupid, but like taking it back to the 80s, we don't have to worry about any of that. That's true Like 16 candles has a very problematic Asian character.
Speaker 3:Very problematic.
Speaker 4:Like you say, the long duck tongue.
Speaker 1:And so which you know what seems to care about? I never hear people.
Speaker 4:No one talks about it.
Speaker 1:I think the actor is super proud of it, so maybe that's what it is. I think to this day he loves it and goes to 80s cons and you know so.
Speaker 2:Well, on 16 candles, isn't that the one where, like they steal, or the girl like falls asleep or she's drunk or something and she falls asleep and all of that? I mean it's just super problematic stuff, and so I definitely see mean girls having more of those types of situations.
Speaker 1:That's kind of what I'm saying it's like yeah, it's almost like you take this move back to the 80s, Like we do not really have to like clean it up. No, not really Like the 80s movies of the 80s were pretty like hardcore yeah.
Speaker 4:Well the rating system had. It would only change after this year. After Gremlins and Temple of Doom was too edgy, and before that your comedies were Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, Like sexting type comedies or keys and stuff. What's his name? Knocking up with a girl and not going to the abortion appointment. You're like that's a teen movie.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 1:That was Fast Times at Ridgemont High Geez Like so that's rough. But, yeah that's what I'm saying Like, so like you could take it back. I guess my question is you take this back to 84. Sixteen Candles is kind of the beginning of the John Hughes team. It's Molly Ringwald.
Speaker 3:Right, john Hughes run Right Now. We're about to enter.
Speaker 1:We're about to enter into three great years of movies, teen movies specifically. So like would this kind of replace Sixteen Candles in a way?
Speaker 4:I think they both can live you think they both live.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think they both live, because one is very much about diving into popular culture.
Speaker 4:Like when I say that like being one of the cool kids in school, she very much in that movie is not it's the joke at the beginning. Very much is like I'm not cool, my parents don't even notice, it's my birthday, you know, and so for her it's like trying to get the guy to notice her. And in Mean Girls that's very much Katie's goals, like I want it's one of her goals is like I wish I want this guy to notice me. But it's not the main storyline, you know. Like with her it's trying to enter into the social world of high school that she's never been a part of, having grown up in Africa with her parents, and so it's like that she gets to have this fun like observation from the outside as she gets integrated into it. It's that rise and fall kind of storyline more. So I think they're different enough that people will still appreciate both. One might lose its like initial luster, I think, if depending on which one was to become more popular.
Speaker 2:A thing that I just thought of is Breakfast Club would have come out a year later. How would this have affected that? Because the whole click issue would Breakfast Club be as iconic as it is now?
Speaker 1:I think so. You think so Just because of the minimalist approach. That's fair. I was just curious.
Speaker 4:And it's also approaching many different types of kids With this. It's very much like the girl. It's a girl's story and it's approaching it from like her and Janice being unpopular, and then from Regina George's viewpoints as well and her in the plastics, whereas with that you get the jock the basket case all the different aspects of high school.
Speaker 1:Aaron Samuels is way more approachable than Jake Ryan.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 2:Jake Ryan, though. Jake Ryan, oh, my Jake Ryan, he was an Adonis.
Speaker 1:It was a fight between Aaron Samuels and Jake Ryan. Jake Ryan's taking Aaron Samuels down.
Speaker 2:Yes no questions asked.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I feel like that's the thing about the male lead in Mean Girls is he feels approachable, like he's not above it, all Right. And you're like, honestly, the plot of that. He's tired of banging the hottest girl in school.
Speaker 4:He's trying to find some new territory. I want more.
Speaker 1:He doesn't have a great, he doesn't have a really redeeming arc.
Speaker 4:Not, really no.
Speaker 1:He's like oh, that freshman's cute. It's kind of like that's weird. Sure, she just turned 16, so that's not great, all right, but okay, my last question. This is a real question, because I don't know what you guys did as we're about to recast Mean Girls in 1984. Okay, and you'll know my love for Molly Ringwald and her movies, but let's say, john Hughes makes both of these in 84.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He's filming these things back to back and Molly's offered both. Do you think she takes Mean Girls or do you think she sticks with 16 Candles?
Speaker 4:See, that's the tough thing, and I know how important 16 Candles is on your list of movies.
Speaker 1:So I know you it's like could she have been in Mean Girls and had been just as impactful, I mean.
Speaker 4:Lindsay Lohan can do confessions of that or whatever the title is, and Mean Girls. And also Rachel McAdams can do notebook and Mean Girls in the same year. So what's to say she doesn't do both.
Speaker 1:Gosh. Rachel McAdams is a killer year Killer year. Yeah.
Speaker 3:She could do both.
Speaker 1:I mean, she would not by our rules.
Speaker 4:No, not by our rules yeah yeah, like slow your roll there. I'm just saying I tried, Allie, I really tried what you did. Hey for effort.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying, I'm not. I'm even like wondering if Molly Ringwald, as either Regina or Katie, wouldn't have been just as cool. You know, I'm just saying, but I don't know. I love 16 Cables, despite its problems, despite its message. All right, so that means we're going to cast Mean Girls in 1984. Weird. We're taking it right back to the birth of, like the modern teen movie. So I like to say 1984., I'll be back. You have arrived, all right, but before we do that, we have rules.
Speaker 4:That's right.
Speaker 1:And I'm directing this right. You are, oh, my gosh.
Speaker 4:I tried to make it easy for you, corey, thanks.
Speaker 1:Don't love Mean Girls, but I love teen movies. It's in your ballpark.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1:We took it to your decades and now I feel like it's already sacrosanct somehow. I'm like already like all right, what do we do here? All right, I don't care about 2004, regina George, but 1984, regina George. I just hope y'all did well.
Speaker 2:So we shall see we will
Speaker 1:see All right. Well, there are rules. Rule number one anyone you cast in 1984 is Mean Girls must be alive in 1984. Okay, can be cast in dead actors, even if we got a time machine here. Rule number two anyone you cast in Mean Girls 1984, they must be free to do so. They cannot be in prison. I'm not sure who is in prison in the 80s, but or POW, cold War situation, you know.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure how many there were. Yeah, especially a lot of talk and chest bumping. But all right, okay. And then rule number three they must be active in the actor you cast must be active, and we describe that as having at least one film credit in 19 or TV credit in 1984. That's right or prior to. Yeah, they have to be working. We've changed that for kid actors, but there are no kids in this movie.
Speaker 4:No, no, these are definitely juniors and seniors. The adults playing teams, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Lindsay Lohan was.
Speaker 4:She was she was 17 because they had to limit her time on set filming.
Speaker 1:Which only happens was full grown adults 26., 25.
Speaker 4:She was 25.
Speaker 1:Apparently any pollers only like six years older than her.
Speaker 4:I think it's six or seven years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just like, and that was her mom, and so that's one of those things where you show up to set and I just got to make you feel bad.
Speaker 3:And you're like, oh, that sucks.
Speaker 1:I'm Amy Poehler and I'm a treasure, but that that sucks. So, all right, we love you, amy. Rule number four and the final rule anyone you cast in this film in 1984 version of Mean Girls, we'll lose all major film credits in 1984. We don't allow these people to work twice.
Speaker 4:That's right.
Speaker 1:In this podcast. They had to make one movie in 1984. We don't count TV, broadway, producing, directing, whatever they can do, all that.
Speaker 1:New heart's content but they're getting one role here. At least that's how our main cast goes. Our 30 seconds are less round, Not so much. I as the director have two power ups. The two power ups are at any point. I can pull the switcheroo card, which means any two actors that have already been cast. I can just switch them at any time. I just like hey, you know what? I think this person in this movie lends itself to that.
Speaker 4:This is, like, mostly just teenage girls. Yeah, you have a lot of rooms play here.
Speaker 1:So and so may look good here, but then towards the end she may look better there. So I'm not sure Like I'm excited about this. And then the last one is I have the director override. At any point. I can tell you both that you've failed miserably. I hate it. It's dumb, Get out.
Speaker 4:You don't even go here.
Speaker 1:I could even pull the Molly Ringwald nuke and just kill 16 candles myself.
Speaker 4:I feel like, if you, if it's, it's right there, corey.
Speaker 1:And so, but yeah, I can only do that once, and I must do it in the casting of that character. All right, are you guys ready?
Speaker 4:I think so.
Speaker 1:I think so you understand that you don't have an excuse. I should know the rules, like the hundredth time you've done this.
Speaker 4:Not a hundredth yet, but we're close, you're like on eight or something.
Speaker 1:So do you know the rules? I believe I do. All right, cool, cool, all right. Well, that means we need to cast this movie. But, like all movies, cast are big in this podcast goes long enough, as is, so we only pick a few characters for up top. That will do major discussion on Right we get to defend.
Speaker 1:But we have a lot of characters we love that end on the 30 seconds or less. People that we adore, but just don't lend themselves to the type of conversation, either because we just don't have time or the roles are small.
Speaker 3:True, we love these people, they're great, but we got to move on.
Speaker 1:So all right, and so our 30 seconds or less will be the characters of Miss George, played by Amy Poehler, kevin DePour played by Rajiv Sorenja, mr DeVall played by Tim Meadows, and I believe they tried hard to get Steve Martin. Couldn't do it, oh he was already doing cheaper by the time he was already doing cheaper by the dozen. He wanted to do it as a favorite of Tina. Apparently it was written for him.
Speaker 4:OK.
Speaker 1:Then someone. Then she asked what about Chevy Chase or Michael's despises? And hate Chevy Chase and said absolutely not, and so we went to Tim Meadows perfect, who is just an unsung hero of the movie.
Speaker 3:That's true.
Speaker 1:Miss Norbury, played by Tina Fey, who's also the writer, and then Damien, played by Daniel Franze Franzeci assuming it's his name. He was. He was on that remake of I Spit on your Grave. I guess that is wild, all right, ok, cool. One of the SNL alum at the bottom.
Speaker 4:That's right. They initially were afraid to put SNL people in because they didn't want to be seen as an SNL movie. But you know, and it's not, it's not, it's really not.
Speaker 1:It's not like you look at it. The same as Wayne's World or any other. Tommy Boy or any of that it's just like oh, there's a bunch of SNL playing the loser adults. All right, cool, cool, I like it. All right. So the way it's going to work, I'm going to say the character. All right, I'll let you go first. All right, throw your name at me and then right after OK, and we'll try to do this as fast as possible. All right, Are you guys ready?
Speaker 4:I'm prepared.
Speaker 1:All right, miss George.
Speaker 2:Gilda Radner.
Speaker 4:Goldie Hawn.
Speaker 1:Gilda Radner, kevin the poor.
Speaker 2:Eddie Murphy not super confident.
Speaker 4:OK, I went. Eddie Dezen you only know him from Wargames. Yeah he's just the 80s nerd. He's the voice of Mandoir from Dexter's Life, but yeah, in the 80s he's just the nerd yeah, no him. Ok.
Speaker 1:It'll be great. All right, mr Duvall.
Speaker 2:Jim Belushi.
Speaker 4:SNL throwback there I did, david Allen Greer.
Speaker 1:I'm going, jim Belushi, weird.
Speaker 3:I kind of like it, I like it.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's just because we're in January and I just watched Jingle All the Way. So, he's there, he's fresh. Miss Norbury Jane Curtin.
Speaker 4:Miss Norbury, I put Carrie Fisher, oh, oh that's right.
Speaker 1:Oh dang it. She brought this no no, no.
Speaker 2:You brought Carrie Fisher, dang Carrie.
Speaker 1:Fisher yeah, rightfully so. Huge, huge role model on Tina Fey. Oh man.
Speaker 4:I didn't mean that, but the connective issue was the writers there, for sure.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, ok, all right, and then finally Damien.
Speaker 4:Figure let's have some fun and have some boy George. Oh, ok, ok, oh. Who's a teenager at the time? Yes, or a young man in the early 20s?
Speaker 1:These are so weird. They both just have very definitive like who they are. Yes, absolutely, and it's hard to like put them in high school and they're both like very big icons of the LGBT. She's gonna be boy George. Ok, ok, it's gonna be boy George. I just I think boy George would have a lot of fun with it for sure. Dang it, yeah, all right.
Speaker 4:That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 1:I like it. Ok, all right. I feel like we're starting.
Speaker 2:Strong, strong. This is a good start.
Speaker 1:Maybe it doesn't look too bad. That's Jim Belushi.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's John Belushi, excuse me, sorry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nick Get it together, maybe dead by now.
Speaker 4:That's true, you're right. 83, 82, 83, I think.
Speaker 2:Dang.
Speaker 4:But yeah, are you ready for the big, big casting now? I?
Speaker 1:am so up top. We are going to start with the character of Janice Ian. Nice wig Janice, what's it made of?
Speaker 3:Your mom's chest hair, I'm.
Speaker 1:Janice, played by Lizzie Kaplan.
Speaker 3:Yes, who would go on?
Speaker 1:to have quite the career herself. People might know her from Hot Tub, time Machine and Cloverfield yeah. I have never seen Hot Tub Time Machine.
Speaker 4:But you have seen.
Speaker 1:Cloverfield.
Speaker 2:I have seen Cloverfield. It is fun. I'm also a little offended that you didn't include the interview, because she's also in the interview.
Speaker 4:That's right, I forgot she was in the interview.
Speaker 2:Come on now.
Speaker 1:It's all a lot of really good stuff when you write these.
Speaker 3:Dang.
Speaker 4:My apologies.
Speaker 1:So Janice is the first person KDB friends after transferring to North Shore High School. Early in the movie you find out that she doesn't really have a good reputation in school and that other students constantly treat her like a punching bag. Regina spread a rumor that she was in love with her. She also a very close friend of Damien and the two have pretty weird and funny relationship which can be seen in many memorable scenes throughout the movie. Yeah, she's the outcast, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:She's just fun. She's the outcast that used to be on the inside, or not really. Sort of Like.
Speaker 4:It's. They were friend here, regina were close as kids and then it was that basically, the situation was that Regina the wall group.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah Got popular and then she made it like, oh you've, you're in love with me, so I will say that's one thing, that that's one joke within the movie that I didn't catch on to until years and years later. So in the movie, you know, regina says that oh well, janice is a lesbian, you know, and tries to accuse her of that. And then, later on in the movie you hear Janice talking to Kevin to pour and he and she mentioned oh no, I'm Lebanese. And so you find, you figure out, that Regina George thought that she was saying she was a lesbian, but in reality she was saying that she was Lebanese and just completely misunderstood, so I thought that was a really fun little.
Speaker 4:Clever, very clever. Yeah, that's a blink and you miss it kind of moment. Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 1:The character of Janice Ian is an homage to musician Janice Ian, who was the very first Saturday Night Live musical guest.
Speaker 4:Interesting.
Speaker 1:Alongside Billy Preston.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 1:And then we have that 17, which appears in the movie in the background when the girls are fighting at Regina's house.
Speaker 4:Naturally.
Speaker 1:So yes, and also Janice, ian is an out lesbian, so there you go, there's just an homage to this real life person.
Speaker 4:Yeah, apparently, when Tina Fey writes, or because this was her first feature script, she was just like to make it easier. I just put real names. So a lot of these people were kind of based on real people, which I get that as a writer. It's like because you spend too long trying to go what's the perfect name for this person, Instead just go oh, let's just check.
Speaker 1:Yeah, careful with that, like every single one of like Richard Linklater's, like Ren's trying to sue him later.
Speaker 4:Well, you change it later. I mean, Tina Fey didn't Like people in basic views is like hey, that's me.
Speaker 1:Wait a minute, I didn't do that. That's my name, so like, all right, all right. All right, so we're looking for edgy outcast. We need a strong actors here.
Speaker 4:Right. Right right right this one's got a lot of drama, A lot of like a lot of the dry humor, which can be tough. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, agreed, I think we're going to have to go first.
Speaker 4:Do I have to go first?
Speaker 1:You'll go first, dang it. I'll let Ally go first, bottom Unless you just want to ladies first it. She already went first, I'll go first. Okay, ally, wouldn't get it put up with that anyway.
Speaker 2:No, I wasn't. I was going to make you go first.
Speaker 4:Well, just right off the bat, here I brought in somebody that's kind of like becomes an it girl of the 80s for, and she's kind of got an alternative style to herself. I was tempted to put Madonna, but Madonna hadn't done any actual film work yet, so I put Lisa Bonet, and this is her first season on the Cosby show.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 4:So I think she could just play kind of that outsider really well and I think it would be fun. She has a very laid back, chill style about her, but it'd be fun to see her have like a more vindicative, revenge based storyline going on here.
Speaker 2:That's fair. That's fair, all right.
Speaker 4:And I think she'd play off of boy George would be a lot of fun it would be fun. I had to repel there, but I was like, okay, boy George works too.
Speaker 2:Works too as well.
Speaker 4:Both very stylish.
Speaker 2:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Okay, All right. Ally Lisa Bonet's on the board.
Speaker 2:All right. So this person at this time was 22 years old and I will be taking her out of Oxford blues. She what she is, yeah, hi, yeah, I'm sorry, allie.
Speaker 3:Sheedy, I'm just going to get it over with.
Speaker 2:Allie Sheedy. I know that we see her in the breakfast club playing kind of an outcast, but I think that she could embody Janice in a completely different sort of outcast rather than the one that we see in breakfast club. So I'm bringing you Alex Sheedy, Corey.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Well, in breakfast club it's she very much, is the basket case. She's very shy, quiet performance. And this one, janice, is a little more outspoken, a little more like ready to like get her vengeance on Regina George, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 1:All right, I have opinions.
Speaker 3:Okay, all right.
Speaker 1:I actually don't love Oxford blues. I just, you know. I just gasped at it because I know what it is you do enough research in the 80s.
Speaker 4:You know exactly what someone's going for.
Speaker 1:I've seen Oxford blues. It's all right, just rob a little of me. So that's not a big deal.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:My first thing, though, when you said it was well, we've seen this or we're going to see it in a big way. Yeah, like, she plays the basket case very famously in the breakfast club. However, she plays a mute for like most of the movie. Yeah, this is true, Whereas here we're going to get like a sassy caddy, sarcastic kind of Ally Sheedy as an outcast.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 1:And I want to see it. It's Ally Sheedy, but could you see it? Yeah, I can. Yeah, you can see it Nick.
Speaker 4:Oh well, hold on, though. Couldn't it be? Potentially higher spot? The one moment I get the cough actually on purpose on this spot.
Speaker 1:No, I got to go Ally Sheedy right here. If I water later, I'll do it.
Speaker 4:Okay, that's fine, that's fine. I'm just going to do some nonchalant research here.
Speaker 2:No, big reason. Sorry, Nick.
Speaker 1:It's been over a year since Tanner's been on the podcast We've had to dealt with. We like to have it a Tanner constantly, so I would steal his pics.
Speaker 2:Well, now you know how it feels.
Speaker 1:I hope Tanner's listening. She's, yes, finally, all right. All right, I'm sorry, I just I'm sorry if I got a little presumptuous here, but I just need a brat packer in this movie already.
Speaker 4:I mean it's fine. It's not fine, but it's fine.
Speaker 1:I feel better. But yeah, we could, we could. We'll see. I know what roles are coming up and I got the switch. I got my hand on the switch.
Speaker 4:It's true. You got some time, Corey, to rethink your mistake Moving forward.
Speaker 1:All right, you got me all flustered now. All right so, in not typical Hollywood fashion, we're gonna get the lead male out of the way.
Speaker 4:Get him out. Get him out Moving forward. Get him out. This is a girl's only club.
Speaker 1:Get up here, pretty boy. I don't know if this actor ever did anything else, but we are casting Aaron Samuels because on October 3rd he asked Katie Herron a question. On October 3rd he asked me what day it was. It's October 3rd. Oh my gosh, this movie. So he's a meme. So like congratulations to Aaron Samuels. I didn't mean to like the greatest career Played by Jonathan Bennett. He was in Van Wilder Freshman Year and the Christmas House.
Speaker 4:So that's pretty much it. Those are the noteworthy things.
Speaker 1:All right, so I'm assuming Van Wilder's, not the Ryan Reynolds movie it's some sort of offshoot.
Speaker 4:No, no, it's a spin-off. It's not Rise of Tosh, but it's a different one.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure he also hosted New Year's Eve on like NBC or CBS or something like that. One of those shows as well, just to throw that out there.
Speaker 4:After MTV New Year's Eve Dull Apart.
Speaker 1:Are you confusing Jonathan Bennett with Ryan Seacrest?
Speaker 2:No, no, I can prove it. Well, we'll see. Maybe I can prove it, we'll find out.
Speaker 4:So who is Aaron Samuels Corey?
Speaker 1:Aaron Samuels. He's the hot popular guy in school, though it's really hard to tell. I do like that about mean girls. They make the school seem bigger than you know, like, obviously, a lot of teen movies do where you're just like. I'm only seeing like a fraction of this school. I don't really have a good like he's hot popular guy, but I really don't know what he does.
Speaker 4:He's just a jock. Is he on the football team? Yeah, he's on the football soccer. Yeah, everything.
Speaker 2:OK so he's just a swimmer too, if I'm not mistaken. So he's got a swimmer's body. Yeah, swimmers body, all right, sure.
Speaker 1:He's like I know.
Speaker 2:He wasn't very good.
Speaker 1:So his torso was not that long. So all right, I mean that's mainly it. He's the love interest of the movie right. Yeah, Obviously Katie falls for them.
Speaker 4:And.
Speaker 1:Regina, just they already had a thing right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they did a previous one, obviously, and that's why when Katie's into him, gretchen's like, oh, you can't date him because Regina dated him and it's the Bros Before Hoes rule for women obviously Still applies.
Speaker 2:It's very true.
Speaker 4:But producer Tina Fey confessed that when she casted it she liked him because he looked like Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 1:He does look a little bit like Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 4:It's the hair.
Speaker 1:Like early 2000s.
Speaker 4:Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 2:I could see that.
Speaker 4:James Franco was considered for the role which was eventually given to him. And then Bennett says now a day goes by that someone doesn't refer to him as Aaron.
Speaker 2:I mean, he has a pretty big hair and a pretty iconic character.
Speaker 4:He's very important. When you're memed, you know you're mean for life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:I don't like Franco in the role.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't either.
Speaker 4:Doesn't work as well.
Speaker 1:There's a reason Spader didn't play the hot, cool guy in the 80s movies. Because he's creepy, he's creepy, he's sleazy and creep in Franco's sleazy and creepy.
Speaker 4:You don't even know his real name, Corey.
Speaker 3:Sleazy and creepy.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, I love Robert. California is my favorite character from the office, so that is including the main cast. That one season is just phenomenal. All right, yeah, so I think that's a good. I think that's that's good. Yeah, that we didn't go Franco, let's in Franco, got stuff later. Jonathan Bennett, this is what he is. He is a meme, and so, all right, we're looking for a memeable, a memeable guy here but he needs to be relatable.
Speaker 3:Yeah the hot. We don't like Jake.
Speaker 4:Ryan here guys. No, ok, we need relatable, relatable hot guy. Yeah God, oh no.
Speaker 1:The hot guy that's approachable.
Speaker 4:OK, ok, ok, yeah, yeah, yeah, I see that I see you.
Speaker 1:You're sure he's going to call back. He's not going to ghost you. Yeah, he's not going to go see it all. So all right, allie, you made the last one, so you get to go first. On Aaron Samuels.
Speaker 2:Aaron Samuels. All right, so I am bringing you a young, 22 year old Tom Cruise. This is a free year for him. He has nothing going on in the year of 1984. And he is coming off of risky business. So I'm bringing you Tom Cruise.
Speaker 4:It's rare to get Tom Cruise on this on the show.
Speaker 1:He's a busy man. He's always busy, he's always doing something of note. He's also coming off all the right moves.
Speaker 2:Yes, that one as well.
Speaker 1:High school football player.
Speaker 4:Dang, oh no, is it too much? Too soon, too early?
Speaker 1:Possibly opposite Allie Sheedy. Did I pull the trigger on Allie Sheedy too soon? No, no, no, no, no, it's not Allie Sheedy. It's not talking about all the right moves.
Speaker 4:No, it's Marty McPly's mom. Oh, you're right. You're right, leah Thompson, leah Thompson. Yeah, thank you All right.
Speaker 1:I don't know what I was thinking. Was I confusing Tom Cruise with Matthew Broderick and or Camps? Maybe, it's probably never happened to Matthew Broderick ever.
Speaker 4:He's like what a compliment. He's like dang, I wish.
Speaker 3:All right, all right, ok, all right.
Speaker 1:Still fair, fair, fair. All right, ok, I don't hate it I like it no.
Speaker 3:No, I mean it works, it makes sense, because he's not like.
Speaker 1:No, he's not massive yet.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and he wouldn't say he's unapproachable by any means either.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 4:He's not on that level. He's affordable. Yeah, he's affordable. We can just keep this as a thing.
Speaker 1:But like it's going to.
Speaker 2:But he hasn't become Tom Cruise.
Speaker 1:No, he's going to do legend and no one's going to notice, except for Slater.
Speaker 4:We're like legend's incredible.
Speaker 1:And then he does Top Gun and then we can't afford him.
Speaker 4:Right. So all right, this is the window. This is it. Yeah, we're going to get Tom Cruise in the team. Corey, I'm going to offer you an alternate window, oh gosh, and you're going to be really flustered by this one. Corey, I'm bringing you John Stamos. Oh Whoa 21 years of age. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:So he's like just general hospitaling right now.
Speaker 4:He's on Dreams the TV show and that's pretty much it. Yeah, I think I don't even know if general or ER general hospital.
Speaker 1:He was general hospital. Yeah, I don't know if that one is yeah.
Speaker 3:ER is later on Because Full House is 87.
Speaker 1:He was on ER.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but in terms of acting wise, yeah, the main thing that I saw was that it was Dreams, this TV show that I've never heard of before in my life. But television wise, I mean in 86, he's never too young to die. And he's in Alice in Wonderland, a TV miniseries in 85. General hospital he's in it. Yeah, he's from 82 to 92.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, that's how long the show went. Oh, ok, he was from 82 to 84 playing Blacky. Oh, I see, ok, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, this is in the middle of that run. Oh, I'm going to have to Google. I know what Tom Cruise looks like.
Speaker 4:Well, I think the thing is is like John Stamos is definitely going to be a heartthrob level. Tom Cruise is also a good looking dude. He's not quite in the scale of heartthrobness. He's not Stamos.
Speaker 1:John Stamos. Oh the Stamos, what a babe.
Speaker 4:If one of them asked you what day it was, Corey, which one? Would you have a hard time figuring out what day it was.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean like I just feel like Tom Cruise might spit on me, like John Stamos is going to tell me what day it is, or like I mean I mean like I don't know that Tom Cruise would look at me. John Stamos is like he's OK, here's OK. Here's the thing. John Stamos is the more approachable guy he's. He's more cut for Aaron Stamos. There's no problem with Stamos and I don't know what the rules are in the podcast. He has atrocious hair, kind of in the early 80s.
Speaker 4:He has 80s hair. He has, like feathered 70s hair. He has luscious 80s hair, corey.
Speaker 1:He kind of kept the 70s like Farrah Fawcett thing going, Kept going a little too long.
Speaker 4:Oh my, I kind of you don't think girls are going to be like his hair is amazing.
Speaker 1:I just think we need to cut it a little bit. I just we have to cut his hair down. I can agree to that.
Speaker 4:Are we cool with?
Speaker 1:it Because it's just like, Because even like at the beginning of Full House, you're kind of like man. That is he, just that's everywhere.
Speaker 4:Listen, some things, some things.
Speaker 1:you just got to try to live as long as you can and season two, when Stephanie accidentally cuts his hair, you're like thank God Did him a favor you have huge favor.
Speaker 4:And Becky would have never approached him had he had that hair.
Speaker 1:I'm going, john Stamos, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 4:Is that a first time for us?
Speaker 2:I hope so.
Speaker 1:It might be celebrating Going out after this. That's a rarity for you.
Speaker 4:I'm excited. Now Wrap this baby up. We got things to do.
Speaker 1:Man, all right, that's. I'm so excited about that. Ok, cool, yeah, that's a good one, awesome, all right. Stamos on the quantum recast board.
Speaker 3:He might have been on my list.
Speaker 1:Yes, Hold on. I mean someone's stall.
Speaker 4:Hello my baby, hello my honey. No, I mean I don't know if he's been cast before, but it always seems like there was like something going on or he just never was the right fit, because he was always playing an adult in the early dad, uncle figure in the late 80s, early 90s and then, like his star, kind of fades a little bit after that. Yeah, in terms of popularity.
Speaker 1:He was on the list of resolution actors I made years ago.
Speaker 4:You're welcome, corey. Like two years ago I don't think I ever got. I mean, Michael Jordan is also on that list, so it's kind of a tough list. Hold on, I got Polly Shore, you did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got sure I got Lou Diamond Phillips in somewhere I'm.
Speaker 4:Corey, corey, rami girls, rami girls.
Speaker 1:Hold on, just, I'm just. There's no more male characters, right, because Lou Diamond Phillips is a thing. Now, my, my, my, my hands off the piece.
Speaker 3:OK, OK, I'm off the chest piece. Ok, OK, OK, all right.
Speaker 1:It's like thinking Lou Diamond wouldn't be a bad and say, all right, no, what am I saying? He's a poor man. John Stamos, all right, all right. That brings us up to essentially our leads here the plastics and Katie. We're going to start with her name's Karen Smith.
Speaker 3:So if you're from, Africa.
Speaker 4:Why are you?
Speaker 1:white. Oh my God, karen, you can't just ask people why they're white.
Speaker 2:That is just poorly.
Speaker 1:It has Karen's. Karen's not a great name anymore, and Smith is just not very bad. Yeah, you would have thought.
Speaker 3:For being in the plastics. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 1:George would have been like. I mean, george is kind of edgy, it's like an ugly man name. It kind of works. Gretchen's last name's a Weeners, karen Smith. I can't believe they let a Smith in. You would have thought they would have made her changes like hey, we need more something that.
Speaker 4:or just have a. You had to have the basic way. Yeah, you had to have the basic, I guess.
Speaker 1:All right, fair, fair Played by. And this is her first movie, right? Amanda Seafreed, yes, Future Oscar nominated actress.
Speaker 4:That's right.
Speaker 1:So yeah, we know her from William is a Rob. Dear John Ted. To Mamma Mia, she is the Mamma Mia.
Speaker 2:Mamma Mia. Those are such fun movies.
Speaker 1:And she got nominated for Mank.
Speaker 4:I don't know if she got nominated for Mank, but she was her Oscar, she also had a lot of press for that TV show she did a year or two ago. The dropout, yeah, the dropout.
Speaker 1:All right, fair, fair. So this is, she's the dits. She's the idiot. Right, she's the idiot friend.
Speaker 4:She's the Dumb Blonde Right.
Speaker 1:Correct. We were all making Dumb Blonde jokes back then. For sure Are those in portesno. Did we decide that was bad?
Speaker 2:I hope not, because I actually made a blonde joke today, oh.
Speaker 3:OK, I really hope it's.
Speaker 2:I apologize if I offended anybody with my. Is that that you canceled it? I don't know.
Speaker 4:I hope not. I don't think we've reached the point where I think blonde and blondes are still. It's not that we can insult them. You're so good sports. They're so good sports about it. Yeah, ok.
Speaker 1:Family Anderson still adds funny.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:All right, all right OK.
Speaker 1:All right, well, that's who she is. She essentially plays the dumb blonde, always like clueless yeah, influenced by the other two.
Speaker 4:And then she's admitted to Katie that she's failing all her classes.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 4:But she is nice and friendly, like that is like one of her. She is probably the nicest one of the plastics, for sure, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I think so. I think she's got some sides to her that are, because, I mean, whenever you think about the three way call which side note that is absolutely accurate I have been the victim of the three way call several times in my yeah, yeah. Which I don't think three way call, you can't what it was Star 69 or star 67.
Speaker 4:I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 1:But, anyway, but you know, just FaceTime now Zoom call it. But yeah, I guess cell phones you can do multiple people. Surely yeah, but I think yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't, yeah, I don't need that. That function of my life anymore. But yeah, yeah, I would say she's the nicest out of all of them. But I don't know if I would categorize her as nice.
Speaker 1:Nick, you never got three way called, like there was never like a mystery third person Probably the victim of a three way call of anything.
Speaker 4:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, were you never like?
Speaker 4:not aware of it at least. So I've been on a three way call before, I mean I don't know what, not a secret one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's rough, allies was similar to the mean girls thing.
Speaker 2:I mean, is it just like some people being nasty and mean, yeah, just yeah, yeah, just talking poorly about somebody else, and then me, yeah, not saying the nicest things. And then the other person oh. I can't believe that you think about me that and it's just. It was awful. Junior High Allie is a completely different Allie than 31 year old Allie.
Speaker 4:She went through her own coming of age story Just for the record.
Speaker 1:So I Ars, was always like for a guy, at least for me, it was like a girl would call you and be like hey, what do you think about my friend?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, like Amanda and you're like who.
Speaker 1:I'm sure she's fine.
Speaker 3:And then Amanda would come on back. Oh my gosh you think.
Speaker 4:I'm fine. You think I'm cute?
Speaker 1:And you're like whoa whoa, whoa, whoa. I was misquoted, yeah it was always that kind of ambush.
Speaker 4:Interesting and you're like it was it, was it?
Speaker 1:was he's a hang up and tell your parents don't answer the phone.
Speaker 3:Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1:All right, they're trying to trap me into a relationship.
Speaker 4:Would you date her if she was a single? That's that, that's literally what it is, wow, and you're just like.
Speaker 1:You don't know how to answer, but you don't think they're there.
Speaker 2:You just don't mean, you're just like, I mean they're fine and you're in your formative years and you don't know how to react to that kind of stuff, because I always I did that with my best friends who had crushes on other guys. I would be the one that called and they I was. I was that person, I'm so sorry, y'all are learning so much about me today.
Speaker 4:It's fine. We learn a lot about each other on this podcast.
Speaker 1:You would go to school and find out that this kid's dating that girl and he doesn't like her. Like what happened and I go three way, call me. It's like well, how long is this going to go on?
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 1:He's got a little break up with her.
Speaker 4:That'd be mean Other people that auditioned for the role to Ashley Tisdale auditioned.
Speaker 1:Oh, and Blake lively was almost cast. Apparently, this is. This is Ryan Reynolds, and. Amanda Seyfried auditioned for Regina, which most of them did but then they think she would be better as the dumb blonde. As the dumb blonde. Apparently she was terrifying as Regina George oh you know, she does have like an intimidating face.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like it's just like she's going to kill you.
Speaker 3:Probably, yeah, no for sure. I would be like too much.
Speaker 1:You have to play like the manipulative side. You just look like all all monsters. So all right, okay, cool, all right. So that's what we're looking for. The ditzy blonde. Here are people. So who made that last one?
Speaker 4:I did. Oh, you did. You've stamosed it. I did yeah, that's right. Bring me the same level here, nick. Okay, all right. Well, I don't know if that's it's Lori.
Speaker 1:Loughlin, acting in 84.
Speaker 4:Probably, but I didn't pull her out. But I'm going to bring you another babe of the early 80s. She is 19 at the time, so she's probably going to be the youngest member of the cast if she's chosen. But this year she's doing Muppet Steak, manhattan and Wet Gold, the TV movie I'm giving you, brooke Shields.
Speaker 1:Oh Dang, oh, now obviously not blonde, blonde.
Speaker 4:But you know, you give her a wig, you bleach the hair. I think she can nail the role. I think she can have a lot of fun with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, interesting, so she's 19.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So we've already sexualized her as a child by now.
Speaker 4:All right, now she just gets to have fun being a dumb blonde. All right, loughlin's happened, yeah. All right. Yeah, it's, we've been. It happened, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:No, not me. No, I know, I don't know. I've been in TV for her.
Speaker 1:I just know, she just had kind of a terrible start.
Speaker 4:No, it was probably not the best times for Hollywood to look at.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, not at all. All right, Allie Brook Shields is on the board.
Speaker 2:All right. So this person is a free agent in 1984. Yet again, she is known for and don't judge me for the movies that I'm about to say. She's known for Jerry McGuire, but she's also known for what a Girl Wants, which is an Amanda Bynes movie that I absolutely adore, and Sky High, which I argue is underrated. I'm bringing you a 22 year old, kelly Preston. Oh, Dang.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's Mrs Travolta, right.
Speaker 1:Mrs Travolta, mrs Travolta, what?
Speaker 4:do you think, Corey?
Speaker 1:I'm thinking about using Override On Karen.
Speaker 4:Hey Karen Smith.
Speaker 1:On Karen Smith. There's an actress I want in Interesting. I don't think she goes up higher, who do?
Speaker 4:you Okay, well, who.
Speaker 1:Probably she's not blonde.
Speaker 2:Listen I think that I mean that's fine. Rachel McAdams or Wig play Regina. That's true, that's a solid point.
Speaker 4:Things are adaptable here, so.
Speaker 1:So it's between Kelly Preston and who I already forgot Brooke Shields. Wow, I feel like I have a chance.
Speaker 4:Dang. I feel confident here Well.
Speaker 1:I actually I think I have more of a pulse for Brooke Shields as an actress that I age, that I do. Kelly Preston what? Was she in around this time.
Speaker 2:Around. This time she wasn't in a whole lot, so she was in a movie called 10 to Midnight, metal Storm, the Destruction of Jared Sin and Christine and Miss Jeff. Miss Jeff, yeah, those are the movies that she did before, and those were all 1983. And then she was a free agent in 84.
Speaker 4:Don't leave us hanging, corey, I'm pulling the override here.
Speaker 1:Alright, I'm bringing Aunt Becky. Maybe I just got a full houseage now, but Lori Loughlin was acting.
Speaker 2:She was, she was, but she was in a show, wasn't she? Cause I TV doesn't matter. Oh, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 4:TV's fine.
Speaker 2:Oh, dang it, Cause she was one that I was thinking about casting for a different role. I forgot about the TV rule.
Speaker 3:Yeah, apparently I feel like if.
Speaker 1:I put Lori Loughlin here. I have my over or my switcheroo still.
Speaker 4:That's true, you do, I do. I can move pieces. Yeah, you got a lot to play with here Right now.
Speaker 1:I'm playing chess, I got Allie Sheedy down low to get her in.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you did.
Speaker 1:Apparently I should have trusted Nick, didn't, and then if I put Lori Loughlin here, I got pieces to move later. I think is how I'm playing this, cause there's a movie called Back to the Beach and Lori Loughlin plays kind of a dits.
Speaker 4:She's like a surfer girl.
Speaker 3:I could see it?
Speaker 1:No, she could play.
Speaker 2:I can see it.
Speaker 1:She's at an age as well, because her daughters turned out to be so dumb.
Speaker 2:I was going to say the same thing, but I didn't know how spicy we wanted to get.
Speaker 1:We're super spicy I apologize to Olivia Jade, that's good.
Speaker 4:Your daughter, I mean your mom was.
Speaker 1:I just think listen, your daughter. She was just protecting her daughter, that's all it's like. Listen, I get it. She's making money off Sephora, but you want her to have skills too, Just in case. So I'm bringing Lori Loughlin at ages fun, I'm probably maybe stay most in her get together you never know.
Speaker 2:You never know in real life.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we're just hooking them up a few years early.
Speaker 1:That's it, that's all. So maybe, maybe we right some wrongs in the world.
Speaker 3:All right, I think they're both happy. Yeah, I mean you know, as a stop.
Speaker 4:We want it.
Speaker 1:So all right, all right, all right, let's move on. Lori Loughlin is on the board as Karen Smith. That is a terrible name. We might rewrite that. Yeah, come on, Tina. I know it's based off some Karen Smith. I guess she knew that brings me to I wonder if she knew an actual Gretchen Weeners. You love him. I need totally complimented you.
Speaker 4:That is so, fetch Gretchen stop trying to make fetch happen. It's not going to happen? I don't think so.
Speaker 1:It wasn't on the quick spark notes that I went through, but anyway I had an English teacher with this last name spelled that way, but we pronounce it Weiner.
Speaker 4:OK, I know a Weiner as well.
Speaker 1:It looked like the word. She was very much first day of class. She's like it's Weiner.
Speaker 2:Do not miss my mouse.
Speaker 1:If you do say the other one like you're dead. Never heard anyone say it either, not even in the hallways by her back, because she was pretty much a beloved teacher. Gotcha, I'm sure she listens. My favorite character in this entire movie, gretchen.
Speaker 4:I am a Gretchen Weiner's a holly I got to say it all at once, to make it not weird.
Speaker 1:I absolutely adore this character. I think it's the heart and soul of this entire movie. For some reason, OK. I love Lacey Shaber. It's a shame her career wasn't bigger.
Speaker 4:It's kind of where it was peaked at.
Speaker 1:She's Eliza from the Wild Thornberry.
Speaker 4:It's pretty much had a role in the reboot of Lost in Space Christmas reboot not another teen movie. So this is it.
Speaker 1:She played the fake Jennifer Love Hewitt. All she had to do is walk through and be pretty, and I think I had a huge crush on Lacey Shaber back then as well. Totally understandable, I think it's the one that all the guys really had the crush on. I don't think we really talked much about Lohan or McAdams. We were like Shaber.
Speaker 4:I mean, I was in the middle of the Lohan Duff Tough, that's you.
Speaker 2:Over Aaron Carter.
Speaker 4:Apparently, she tried to explain that whole thing to Tina Fey and them and they just went. They didn't get there. I don't understand. Why is there beef Boy problems?
Speaker 3:Hollywood.
Speaker 1:All right, gretchen is a member of the Plastics, kind of, I think, second in command you would say until her obviously role is challenged by. Lohan, the loyal sidekick to Regina George.
Speaker 3:For sure.
Speaker 1:Rich family, kind of like her whole character, though she doesn't have her own personality. It's all manufacturing. I relate to Gretchen Wieners.
Speaker 4:She's just manufactured.
Speaker 1:You don't really know who you are. That's like. All I ever talk about in therapy is like people made me. I just allowed people to just make me, and so now it's like I'm almost 40 and I'm like I don't even know my real voices. I use different voices and my therapist is like you're broken, so that's what it is. It's Gretchen Wieners, I just that's all it is.
Speaker 4:I don't have a crush on her, I just am her. Which mean girl do you identify with?
Speaker 2:Probably Katie, if I'm being perfectly honest. Yeah, good choice, good choice.
Speaker 1:Katie thing to say Thanks. And I don't know if we mentioned this, but Leasy Shaper was the only choice.
Speaker 4:That's right Right off the bat.
Speaker 1:She came in and said I think everyone else was fighting for the other two. She's like I will take Gretchen Wieners. They're like good, awesome, so I perfect. And she ends up at a whole other click at the end, right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she joins, like the Asian click.
Speaker 1:That's right. That did not age well, but sure. But it just goes to her character Again she just found something.
Speaker 4:She travels, she does like a year abroad, she studies in China or Korea or Japan or something Learns a lot about herself.
Speaker 1:Maybe so Comes a huge CEO of some overseas corporation. She learns Japanese.
Speaker 4:She invests in anime and that's going to pay off in the future. Man, that is going to pay off. She's right there, at the cusp of the two.
Speaker 1:She's like okay, all right, she got in early on, Hello kitty.
Speaker 4:So who made that?
Speaker 1:one.
Speaker 3:You made it, you took it, yeah, so it goes back to you.
Speaker 1:Back to me. We got Becky and Uncle Jesse in the movie.
Speaker 4:We cannot screw this up At this point.
Speaker 2:We're fine, no matter what Cory's happy now.
Speaker 1:Cool. You can't put Danny Tanner anywhere in here, no I did have my finger on the ring wall Newt the whole time, but it's up top of the table now, so one of you will have to pull that newt Possibly.
Speaker 4:Well for Gretchen Wieners. Right now I do not have Molly Ringwald, but I do have another 80s star at the moment. People know her from Fast Times at Regiment High. I'm going to pull her out of Gremlins.
Speaker 1:I'm giving you Phoebe Cates Cory. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:That's my other huge crush.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1:Phoebe Cates. There is no bigger injustice in the world that she married Kevin Klein.
Speaker 4:Kevin Klein.
Speaker 1:Way much older. Is this like a Michael Douglas situation?
Speaker 4:Sort of but they're still married, so it's like you're not that mad about it. Clearly something works. Okay, I mean Catherine.
Speaker 1:Zeta-Jones is still married. That works.
Speaker 4:Man, Kevin, she could have had any man in the world. And Kevin Klein Maybe he was just funny. I mean he seems delightful.
Speaker 1:I would hang out with him, but man. That's what they say Make a girl laugh.
Speaker 4:Oh, we got to lose him now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Kind of like said like someone's got to raise our children and it's not going to be me.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4:Forget what I said.
Speaker 1:She might have made the choice. She might have rickmarananced it.
Speaker 4:She might have said I like being a mom. We'll do some research later.
Speaker 1:I don't want to drag Kevin Klein completely.
Speaker 4:Not yet, I'm just salty.
Speaker 3:I should have married Phoebe Cates in the 80s.
Speaker 4:I feel that I get that.
Speaker 3:I get that.
Speaker 4:So, Ally, who is your Gritchwiener? Well, after all of that, I feel super confident.
Speaker 2:So I got to be honest with you guys. I messed up. I messed up on the. I thought for some reason I thought that teens also were a part of the children role. So the person that I chose had started acting in 85.
Speaker 3:So that's on me.
Speaker 2:I apologize.
Speaker 3:What did you?
Speaker 4:pick though.
Speaker 2:I decided to choose Mia Sarah, who you would know as Sloane Peterson from Ferris. Bueller Stay Off. Melissa Walker in Time Cobb. That's right, so she was 17 years old at this time.
Speaker 4:She's also in Legend. Did you say that?
Speaker 1:I forget that she was in Time, cobb.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm bringing you Mia Sarah.
Speaker 1:Well, the good news, Ally, is she did one episode of All my Children in 1983.
Speaker 2:She is on the board. I take back my apology.
Speaker 1:I apologize, it isn't it's nice that you're honest, though I was in an episode of All my Children in 1983.
Speaker 2:I'll take it Just kidding guys.
Speaker 4:I pulled some moves last season, so that's totally within, totally fine.
Speaker 1:So we have Lily from Legend Sloane Peterson.
Speaker 4:Very cool.
Speaker 1:Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Man Mia Sarah doesn't come up a lot.
Speaker 4:Here's why.
Speaker 1:I say Phoebe Gates Just to get into the debate side of this.
Speaker 4:I know why you say Phoebe Gates, that part. But then on the other side of it I do lean towards the Gremlin series, because in that one her speech about Santa Claus and all that stuff, and I think that in the scenes where Gretchen is being very much like dumping all the information on somebody about Regina or Katie or something that's going to come in handy- right there.
Speaker 2:That's fair.
Speaker 1:Phoebe Gates is gorgeous.
Speaker 2:She has really beautiful outfits.
Speaker 1:She's more than a gorgeous face.
Speaker 4:She is so attractive.
Speaker 1:Everyone in the 80s agrees with you. Listen, Kevin Klein wouldn't marry someone without substance.
Speaker 4:I hope so.
Speaker 1:He is a Shakespearean trained actor.
Speaker 2:Listen, a second ago you were saying he just wanted somebody to get in the kitchen barefoot. Yeah, this is what is.
Speaker 1:I'm just, I don't know, I'm flustered, I like. I mean, when am I going to have another opportunity to?
Speaker 4:cast Mia Sarah in anything.
Speaker 1:Next time? We're in the 80s maybe, but here's the thing I got to go.
Speaker 3:Phoebe Gates yeah.
Speaker 2:No other reason than fast times in Rijima High. That's fair. She is a mean girl in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, that's totally fair, she's a high schooler dating older men and it's a character right out of mean girls.
Speaker 2:You're not wrong.
Speaker 4:Well, now you're just more satisfied, cory. Yeah, I didn't intend to do that, but I did it.
Speaker 1:Phoebe Gates. I'm digging this movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1:Okay, that brings us to. We're on our top two here. Woo Brings us to Regina George, played incredibly by Rachel McAdams.
Speaker 4:Oh, my God, I love your skirt.
Speaker 2:Where did you get it? Uh, it was my mom's ladies Vintage.
Speaker 4:So adorable. Thanks, that is the ugliest effing skirt I've ever seen. I know we do a lot of Rachel McAdams.
Speaker 1:She comes up on the podcast a lot, at least Rightfully so I think she just has enough consistent work that it's hard to get her in the show Do we? Appreciate, not like we, but like. Does the world appreciate Rachel McAdams enough? Well, the Oscars didn't this year.
Speaker 4:I'll tell you that much. No, they did not, and she was great in that movie.
Speaker 2:Wait, what movie Are you there? God, it's me Margaret.
Speaker 1:She plays a mom Cory. She's in mom mode now. There's one part.
Speaker 2:Obviously I'm not going to spoil it but there's one part where she plays it and you're just like this is real, like this is a real person, like talking to it's a I need to watch it.
Speaker 1:I didn't know. They made the Judy Bloom book into a movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's pretty solid.
Speaker 4:I agree with you. I don't think people are appreciating her enough, because you take.
Speaker 3:Mean.
Speaker 4:Girls, and then stuff like the Notebook, even like Wedding Crashers, and you're like about time you go down the list of like her smaller role in like the Sherlock movies and stuff she has incredible range going on and it's not this is the biggest like I would say like character role. Like it's a bit over the top, it's a bit, but it's need, it's necessary for this movie, but she's capable of doing that, but then pulling it back and being more subtle in these other movies that she's in.
Speaker 1:Well, it's wild too, because it's like the conversation we had about Allie Sheedy. We're like, okay, we're casting her as the outcast here, but even though we've seen it, in the Breakfast Club in the Breakfast Club. She barely speaks. It's kind of one-dimensional a little bit until the very end. And then here we'll get to see her shine, because Rachel McAdams played essentially Regina George in a Rob Schneider movie like just a year before this in the Hot Chick. She's literally just Regina George. But she's not really in the movie because Rob Schneider becomes her.
Speaker 4:And a weird vice-christ.
Speaker 1:And so you only see her every once in a while, and she's not really in the movie that much so it's like we got to see her finally in that role with doing stuff, and so I appreciate that. The Hot Chick's weirdly a funny movie.
Speaker 3:For a Rob Schneider movie Ratched.
Speaker 1:So okay, but yeah, it's Regina George. She's the leader of the plot, she's the villain of this movie. She's hyper-manipulative, she's vain as all get-outs shallow. She is the queen bee and so raised by wealthy parents that she walks over. She has the mom, obviously, Amy Poehler, that's trying to be the friend more than the mom. She wears pink on Wednesdays as well, and so all creates the burn book. And then you know, brains. She's the bad guy. She's the bad guy. Apparently, Lohan wanted to play this role.
Speaker 4:Yes, but just because of Freaky Friday.
Speaker 1:they were like no, no, you are a horticult.
Speaker 2:I hate that. It drives me nuts that studios did that. I don't know if they really do that anymore where they feel like they need to protect the image of certain, I mean.
Speaker 4:Disney still does. They do still to a degree, for sure, but I think now it's becoming easier for people. We're becoming more aware of how controlling and manipulative studio heads were on TV in movies like this. So I think it's easier to like, try to. It's easier also for people to be outspoken, because it's become easier Like there's another platform for films. Yeah, absolutely, because that's what happens One domino falls and everybody else feels comfortable.
Speaker 1:Hopefully they'll be like well, this is what happened. Well, apparently McAdams originally wanted the. Katie role and Lohan wanted the Gina role but apparently they cast McAdams because she was very polite in her auditions and stuff and they're like this is the mask the devil wears kind of a thing.
Speaker 4:This is great and they also felt Lohan was a little intimidated by her, I guess.
Speaker 3:This is the end.
Speaker 4:Let's make it happen.
Speaker 1:You're in Movie magic.
Speaker 4:I'm 25. Is that a problem?
Speaker 1:Oh no, it's fine. Actually, that's good. No, no this is fine.
Speaker 4:How old are the kids on?
Speaker 1:the OC 30? All right, yeah, you're fine. Fine, let's go, all right so we need a very manipulative. Looks like an angel, but is the devil.
Speaker 4:Okay, so insult some actress now by giving me their name. I will go first. I'm going to bring you another name. I just felt like she's becoming a name. I believe next year when she is in St Helmholtz Fire, it's their first big movie. So I'm going to give you Demi Moore Cory. At 22 years of age Before this this year, she's doing no Small Fair. Blame it on Rio Michael Cain comedy, where he's sleeping with his best friend's daughter and she's Michael Cain's daughter, but he's sleeping with the other one's daughter.
Speaker 1:It's kind of awkward. Oh gosh, yeah, that movie's like Age poorly and people like to talk about how they're like why did this get made?
Speaker 4:And the other daughter is like hyper-sexualized. Yes. And Demi Moore is just like enjoying her vacation, like I'm going to go skydiving and stuff, but she's also in general hospital and bedrooms. But Demi Moore, I just think she can ride that line between like being like the sweet, sensitive girl like you said, devil in the skies, but then she also has the Like you get to see a little bit in St Helmholtz Fire, where she can be a little more self-absorbed and kind of about herself as well.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's what I got for you, koy. Thanks for watching.
Speaker 3:All right guys.
Speaker 1:What you got.
Speaker 2:Believe it or not, I chose Demi Moore. What? Yes, yes, yeah, no. I completely agree with everything that Nick just said. I think that she could play a mean girl. I think she could play a mean girl very, very well, but she could also pretend and put on some persona that she's a nice person and she's trustworthy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and you know, to bring it back to the 2024 version, we were talking about it after the movie, you know, where Rachel McAdams plays it a little more over the top and it kind of fits in that movie and that era of the movie.
Speaker 1:Renee.
Speaker 4:Rapp's version is a little more natural in performance. So it kind of. I think in casting this version it kind of broke like the expectation a little bit for me and I was like, okay, this can be a little more realistic and I think that would also lean a bit into the 80s as well, like they wouldn't be so over the top and as much of like a what's where I'm looking for, like it's a commentary making fun of the whole situation.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:But yeah, I guess I have nothing to do here, unless you want to pick her and then swappers on her?
Speaker 1:No, cause I don't really know where else you would land.
Speaker 4:There wasn't a lot. There were other people I thought of, but they weren't on the rise, kind of stars that would really fit that role. You know, like Rebecca Desmourne from Risky Business I thought about, but she just kind of tails off after that. And then Sharon Stone just wasn't a name yet, like she was doing stuff but and she could have done it, I think, but it wouldn't have. I don't think she would have had the same impact.
Speaker 1:For the record, this is where I would have pulled the ring wall nuke.
Speaker 3:I was wondering where you were going to go. This is where I was going to do it, I think it's because I feel like we never got full ring wall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 1:She's kind of the heel in the breakfast club. But she's also painted as like dude. She's just a victim of bullshit. Yeah, you know it's just like, dude, she doesn't even understand, she's the bad guy. She's just like, well, and I'm pretty and my parents are wealthy. It's like what do you want me to do about it? Type of thing. And so it would have been nice to get full heel ring walled, and I was almost willing to burn 16 candles down for it.
Speaker 4:But you didn't, corey, you didn't, that's fine.
Speaker 1:They both live to find another day, and I don't think Lori Lawfellin has the potential for Regina George. No, I don't think so either, and I like VBK's at Lacey, shaiberg or the Grudge Weaver. So no, it's got to stay.
Speaker 3:All right, cool. Everything's fine right now. Everything's fine right now.
Speaker 1:So that brings us to the lead, katie Herron, played by the Lindsay Lohan.
Speaker 3:Why couldn't I?
Speaker 1:remember anything about limits. That was a week. Aaron got his hair cut.
Speaker 2:Oh God, he looks so cute. Okay, focus Katie. What was on the board behind Aaron's head? The limit does not exist.
Speaker 1:The limit does not exist. Who I think we're like cool with again. She just seems to have come out of nowhere again, like she's. Well, it wasn't that, I don't think it was.
Speaker 4:anybody was cool with her. I think she just had the same tragedy of most child stars. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1:It's also like Paris Hilton came back out of hiding and it's like all these girls are kind of like dude, we were forced to be stupid and forced to be dumb and killed our careers. And now we're back and we're like yeah, we believe you because we also have heard worse things. They're also part of like that.
Speaker 4:That kind of party culture of like two thousands, because like they hung out like that and some other people.
Speaker 4:But and I think that's also part of the reason that Lindsay had such a fall off she didn't have the best movie choices after that, but I think she did. It was weirdly like she was pegged into this kind of role of like you're kind of the it girl, but then you're also like it was playing on her like physical attributes, like she's like oh, now you're gorgeous and now we want to put you in like these sexier roles and stuff.
Speaker 4:So, I don't. I think she tried to do some more challenging work like that. I know who killed me and stuff.
Speaker 3:But it just wasn't the right picks of quality.
Speaker 1:All right. Obviously, she is the young teenage heroine of the movie, just now fresh back from living in Africa because her parents are zoologists or something.
Speaker 2:I think so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so she has absolutely no context for high school, which is dangerous.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:To just walk in with no social norms or social cues. And so she befriends Janice and then Janice kind of uses her to infiltrate the plastics. But then, of course, it goes to her head. She meets her and blah, blah, blah, she becomes what she hates, to finally learn who she is. That's true.
Speaker 3:Right, ok, so that's, that's the beauty of the movie here, yeah, folks.
Speaker 1:So again, we don't care about spoilers. If you're listening to this, you haven't seen the movie. That's on you. That's weird. You're this far in and you're like, oh, you blew the movie. It's like I OK, this was Lindsay Lohan's first non Disney film, so hey, yeah, because she did parent trap and then jumped and then did the.
Speaker 4:What was it? Get a clue, yeah. Get a clue, yeah here she is.
Speaker 1:This is Evan Rachel. Evan Rachel Wood turned down this movie. She had already committed to the lead part. Another title Pretty Persuasions, with a Similar Plot.
Speaker 3:I'd never heard of that. Never heard of it, all right.
Speaker 1:It did not work out for Evan Rachel Wood, but that's all right, she got the Beatles movie later. Right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1:I was unfortunately a trist with Marilyn Manson that this is horrible, so that's OK. He didn't age well, we don't like him.
Speaker 3:True.
Speaker 1:And he has nothing. He didn't get a song in the soundtrack, so we're fine, did he?
Speaker 4:No, it would shock me. No, that would be very sharp. It would have to be like she had to go to like some rave or club or something. Oh my, gosh.
Speaker 1:Like did a cover of David Cassidy's something but teen song.
Speaker 4:Oh my.
Speaker 1:Because it's all he's doing after he wrote his own songs for two albums. It's like I should cover things. It's going to work out for you.
Speaker 3:They're all going to sound the same.
Speaker 1:So there's a lot of industrial guitars in me screaming lyrics so yeah, screw you, marilyn Manson, all right.
Speaker 3:He listens.
Speaker 1:So, and I hope he feels bad, all right. So, guys, we need, we need to lead actress.
Speaker 3:Yes, need to lead actress, ok.
Speaker 1:So not going to have as much fun as.
Speaker 4:Regina George. But for sure, for sure, all right. Well, I made it again, so let me, but I don't have what I my original choice of Allie Sheedy Thanks to another, allie Dale.
Speaker 1:But now at all fairness, sorry about that you both made the last one.
Speaker 4:That's true. You just made the prior one.
Speaker 1:Right, right Take any of Allie's thunder.
Speaker 4:I'm not trying to, so I was thinking logically there. Sorry, sorry, all right, so since I don't have Allie Sheedy, I'm just going to throw my we'll call it my Hail Mary. A little bit for you, corey.
Speaker 1:So Melly Ringwold it. I did not Melly Ringwold it I could.
Speaker 4:I guess I could right here, but I'm going, I'm not going to, I'm going to throw at you. Nobody's going to know her except for this, and it's Little House on the Prairies, melissa Gilbert.
Speaker 1:I've never seen a single episode of Little House on the Prairie.
Speaker 4:Here's my logic of why. So watching it was something I watched a little bit growing up, having sisters and stuff. But she's the main character based off of the author, laura, and so I think that she grows up in front of audiences as this character.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And at this point is when little house on the prairie ends, this is like the final season of it, and so I think this would be a nice transition for her into film, because she tries to do other film stuff and just doesn't work out. There's just nothing of note. She has like this weird relationship with Rob Lowe at the time.
Speaker 1:Wait, is this like the bad one? Yeah, this is the bad one. This is the bad one where she's a minor. I don't know. I don't know if that's it. I don't know if she's the one. Rob Lowe, weirdly, has a career for committing a crime. Yeah, I don't know if she's the one that that was about.
Speaker 4:It never popped up when I was looking to do some deep diving here. But I just think that it kind of parallels Lindsay Lohan a little bit in the sense of, like Child Star growing up here's, we're going to put you in this movie where you're still playing like the it girl, like the sweetheart character. It also works because it's like you went from Africa to here, so now it's going for a little house on the prairie to now she's in the real world kind of thing. So I think there's a fun marketing PR kind of idea around that. And in most of the show she does have that same kind of mentality, that same kind of personality that comes out of her a little bit. So that's, that's my Hail Mary for you, corey.
Speaker 1:I just want to see the main little steeper girl running across the field in the opening Sure.
Speaker 4:Okay, that's how you want to put it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's literally all I know her from, okay.
Speaker 4:Well, that's that's it for you, there, you go, I love I told you was a Hail Mary I love it.
Speaker 1:I love that, of course, little house, the prairie was a grow all parent approved program.
Speaker 3:There you go, there you go, so you're familiar with it. I love it.
Speaker 1:That's good, hey, that just means you got. You got a broader perspective than the rest of us. We were watching Beavis and Butthead and you were watching the house, the prairie Don't insult me, All right man. I was unaware of how much like little house property there was a big deal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the books I read in elementary school. Six movies.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, it's off of this. This is a franchise, corey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it was pretty big deal.
Speaker 1:Nick, can I ask a personal question?
Speaker 4:Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Like, as someone who watched the original show, is it? Should they remake it or just let it like live? Just leave it be.
Speaker 4:It being like a like a movie series out of it or a Netflix show that appeals to, like you know, a young demographic, but I don't know if it would work. Young conservatives. I feel like it would be in that world over there. Hallmark, it's a hallmark show, it's a hallmark show 100%.
Speaker 1:Netflix is like. Who does Mr Wilder have buried under the house, the little house on the prairie?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was like they would be throwing in a lot of new stuff in a 2020 version of this. The hallmark Okay.
Speaker 1:Cool Okay, ali.
Speaker 4:Who's the one that Ali Corey's going to pick Wilders?
Speaker 2:I don't know if mine's the mines, yeah, all right. So I decided to cast this person. Now I will say they were in 16 candles, but they were a minor role. She was also in alphabet city, which I've never seen and never heard of if.
Speaker 3:I'm being perfectly frank.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I've never heard of it, but we know her in Twister and still standing and her name is Jamie Gertz. She brought me the Gertz.
Speaker 1:She brought you the Gertz, jamie, gertz, gertz, what's she?
Speaker 2:doing in 84? She's only doing 16 candles in alphabet city.
Speaker 4:Now alphabet city. While I enjoyed, it is by no means like a. You got to keep her in it kind of thing.
Speaker 2:Okay, by no means In 16 candles. She's Robin, she's just yeah. So I mean it's a very minor role, Put her up at the top.
Speaker 1:Honestly keep it. Yeah, cameo, it's like Don Qsack in 16 candles. It's just not. Not even there they're there and you watch it now and you're like, hey, it's that guy.
Speaker 2:But I think she's beautiful. But she can also because one thing that Lindsay Lohan does in you know the 2004 version she's very beautiful, but then she kind of glows up. If you want to call, it that, and so I feel like Jamie Gertz could do that, and she's 19 at the time, so she's only a year or two older than the Lohan.
Speaker 4:To be terrified of Demi Moore and terrified of Demi Moore, exactly.
Speaker 1:You're just not going to mention Lost Boys. Is she learning Lost Boys? Oh she is. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3:Hey, Corey, she's also in the Lost Boys.
Speaker 1:I'm so sorry. She had a great 87. She was in the Lost Boys and less than zero Yep.
Speaker 4:Corey. I Googled Jamie Gertz 1984 and the first image that came up was Dreams the TV show. And guess who's in the photo with her?
Speaker 1:Who is it Just?
Speaker 4:Google it, Corey Jamie. Gertz 1984., 1984., Watch this magic trick Whoa Jon.
Speaker 3:Stamos.
Speaker 1:Are you serious?
Speaker 4:Jon Stamos, it's perfect. Yay, that's what we call podcast magic.
Speaker 1:Well, let's just sign that baby, let's just burn the little house on the prairie down. Jamie Gertz is going to be our Katie Herron.
Speaker 2:Yes, that is weird time. Oh my gosh, that's incredible.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, oh my goodness. Why have I not watched Dreams? That's the real question. You're welcome, corey. That is let's find that where it's streaming, shall we? Oh my gosh, okay cool. No, it's Jamie Gertz, you can just judge yourself in the foot there buddy, I did.
Speaker 2:Now I get it. You didn't really you, alishidee, you had her, it's fair it did become between Alishidee and Jamie Gertz.
Speaker 4:Do you do, you do? You could switch it.
Speaker 1:No, I'm just I'm. I'm, I'm no, the Jon Stamos thing solidified it. We can't move it.
Speaker 4:Well then I wouldn't have said anything man all right, though I know what held Mary when I see it, Corey.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think about putting the situation. I don't I don't know about a gun with Gertz. Well, in all fairness, actually you would have lost If Alishidee wasn't in the movie already we would have put her in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, that's completely fair. Yeah, it's Alishidee, I get it. No, totally not offended at all.
Speaker 1:Well that's it. This movie is full of young Corey Williams obsessed babes. This would have been my favorite movie growing up. You've been so excited. Oh, my gosh, the poster of with Alishidee and Lori Loffin.
Speaker 3:Demi Moore. Demi Moore Is PBK.
Speaker 1:This is on my wall, is it? Oh my gosh. This would have kickstarted puberty fast Like, oh man, this is oh okay, this, I love this, this is great. And Gilda Radner.
Speaker 3:I forgot Yep.
Speaker 1:Yep, oh, this is just this is a and 80s, carrie Fisher.
Speaker 4:This is just babes everywhere. Give me the rundown, Corey. What's this final cast look like? Oh?
Speaker 1:my gosh All right. Coming in playing Miss George will be Gilda Radner. Mrs Jean Wilder, by the way, yep.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, jean Wilder.
Speaker 1:Interesting. Kevin DePore will be played by the quintessential 80s geek, eddie Deason. Mr Duvall will be played by Jim Belushi. Miss Norberry will be played by Carrie Fisher and Damien will be played by Boy George Coming up up top, janice Ian will be played by Alishidee. Aaron Samuels will be played by John Stamos and, appropriately, karen Smith will be played by Lori Lofflin. Lacey, sorry, holly Schabert. Gretchen Wieners will be played by Phoebe Cates. Regina George, you both came in with D'Amimoir, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Love it when that happens.
Speaker 1:That makes my job easy. And then Katie Herron will be played by Jamie Gertz. There's no Ringwalt for an 80s teen movie, but we're going to give her a run for the money.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we are, oh my gosh, this movie is incredible.
Speaker 1:Even the one male lead, john Stamos. He's hot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's a babe, he's a babe and a half if you will.
Speaker 4:It's going to be a awakening for a lot of people.
Speaker 1:Yes, the 80s is pure sex. Like it's just every movie's oozing with it, whether they need it or not, and I think we just created the sexiest 80s movie of all time. Did I just say so? So all right, Mean Girls 1984, that worked out.
Speaker 2:That worked out very well.
Speaker 1:I love this movie way more than the 2004 version. So, man, if we could have just got Sally Field in here somewhere, this would have been over Too old to play anybody, though unfortunately, all right, cool, hey, that's Mean Girls 1984. Do we know where we're going next? We do know where we're going next.
Speaker 4:Well, Corey, we're bringing back our friend from the East Coast, Cass, who's joining us, and we're going to be recasting a because it's Valentine's season.
Speaker 1:I was going to say we've got.
Speaker 4:Valentine's coming up, so we got Crazy Stupid Love and we're going to take it to 1993. Get out of the 80s.
Speaker 1:Honestly, we've done all we can do in the 80s. We can just shut the decade down. We do not have to do any more movies in the 80s.
Speaker 4:Corey is very pleased.
Speaker 3:If this podcast ends today.
Speaker 4:I feel like we've done our due diligence honestly, but all right, so 1999 or three, three, 93, sorry, no, no, we can't be edgy, we're going to go back to the Blow there, the Matrix.
Speaker 1:Stupid, crazy love. All right, everyone, just in leather and it's weird. Okay, all right.
Speaker 4:No, okay 1993., 93.
Speaker 1:1993. Crazy, stupid Love. I had not seen that in a minute That'll be a fun rewatch.
Speaker 2:I think, so that's a fun one.
Speaker 1:Well, Allie, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Thank you for having me back on. It's been. It was a blast If this was your first listen.
Speaker 1:It's never going to be better. So you can go back and listen to old episodes. It's whatever, but this was it. This was the peak of the podcast Tune. In next time, if you want, we're on social media, you can tell us if we missed an 80s babe, but I assure you we did not. So Quorum Quorum Recast, quorum Recast. Thanks for listening. Say good night, nick Nawazchee. M enforcements.