Step through the ropes and into the ring with Cory and Nick, as they tag in renaissance man Aaron Powell for a fantasy recasting smackdown of the 2000 cult classic "Ready to Rumble".
Just like a perfectly executed piledriver, they bring the nostalgia and laughs to the mat, grappling with what it would be like to see today's WWE and AEW stars, as well as the legendary figures of the Attitude Era, in this infamous film. And because no show is complete without a bit of current events, we throw down on the latest WWE storylines, speculating on what might be in store for Cody Rhodes, Roman Reigns and The Rock.
The team's ringside conversation doesn't pull any punches as they debate the perfect cast for a "Ready to Rumble" remake, laughing at the absurdity of yesterday's choices and dreaming up tomorrow's champions. From the high-flying action of AEW to the titans of WWE, they share our craziest suggestions and heartfelt tributes to the sport that has left an indelible mark on their lives.
Before the bell rings on another episode, Cory and Nick raise their championship belts to Aaron for bringing his A-game to this fantasy booking battle royale. Whether you're a die-hard wrestling fan or a movie buff with a soft spot for body slams and backdrops, join us for a main event that combines the thrill of the fight with the magic of the movies. Remember, this isn't just any podcast; it's Quantum Recast, where the worlds of wrestling and film can collide for your listening pleasure.
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Hosts:
Cory Williams (@thelionfire)
Nick Growall (@nickgrowall)
Co-Hosts (Season 5):
Aly Dale (@alydale55)
Ash Hurry (@filmexplorationah)
Cass Elliott (@take5cass)
Voice of the Time Machine:
Kristi Rothrock (@letzshake)
Editing by:
Nick Growall
Featured Music:
"Quantum Recast Theme" - Cory Williams
"Charmer" - Coat
"Revival" - Daniele Musto
"Pukka" - Bellodrone
"Kings and Queens" - Wicked Cinema
"Kiss the Cat" - Al Town
"Birdcage" - Al Town
"Passenger" - Abloom
*Music and licenses through Soundstripe
Step through the ropes and into the ring with Cory and Nick, as they tag in renaissance man Aaron Powell for a fantasy recasting smackdown of the 2000 cult classic "Ready to Rumble".
Just like a perfectly executed piledriver, they bring the nostalgia and laughs to the mat, grappling with what it would be like to see today's WWE and AEW stars, as well as the legendary figures of the Attitude Era, in this infamous film. And because no show is complete without a bit of current events, we throw down on the latest WWE storylines, speculating on what might be in store for Cody Rhodes, Roman Reigns and The Rock.
The team's ringside conversation doesn't pull any punches as they debate the perfect cast for a "Ready to Rumble" remake, laughing at the absurdity of yesterday's choices and dreaming up tomorrow's champions. From the high-flying action of AEW to the titans of WWE, they share our craziest suggestions and heartfelt tributes to the sport that has left an indelible mark on their lives.
Before the bell rings on another episode, Cory and Nick raise their championship belts to Aaron for bringing his A-game to this fantasy booking battle royale. Whether you're a die-hard wrestling fan or a movie buff with a soft spot for body slams and backdrops, join us for a main event that combines the thrill of the fight with the magic of the movies. Remember, this isn't just any podcast; it's Quantum Recast, where the worlds of wrestling and film can collide for your listening pleasure.
Follow Aaron's social media: @yourfavouriteskinnyman
Thanks for listening; If you feel like supporting us, this is where you do that!
BuyMeACoffee
Check out or other content/socials here.
Linktree
Hosts:
Cory Williams (@thelionfire)
Nick Growall (@nickgrowall)
Co-Hosts (Season 5):
Aly Dale (@alydale55)
Ash Hurry (@filmexplorationah)
Cass Elliott (@take5cass)
Voice of the Time Machine:
Kristi Rothrock (@letzshake)
Editing by:
Nick Growall
Featured Music:
"Quantum Recast Theme" - Cory Williams
"Charmer" - Coat
"Revival" - Daniele Musto
"Pukka" - Bellodrone
"Kings and Queens" - Wicked Cinema
"Kiss the Cat" - Al Town
"Birdcage" - Al Town
"Passenger" - Abloom
*Music and licenses through Soundstripe
The year 2000.
Speaker 3:Wrestling's fake.
Speaker 2:Wrestling's not fake. Welcome to another episode of Quantum Recast. I'm your host, corey, and with me, as always, is Nick yeah, and joining us is renaissance man Aaron Powell Woo.
Speaker 3:Woo, what's going on? I'm glad to be back.
Speaker 2:Welcome back. Yes, you'll remember. Aaronaron from our most popular episode, that's right, the last dragon as it should be, and I'm proud that this is the most popular episode.
Speaker 3:I am super happy about that too. I still have people asking me about that episode and like what my process was with picking people like I love that movie. It's free on YouTube right now too. Oh it's free. Have you ever seen it?
Speaker 1:They have no excuse. Guys, You've got no excuse. Feel the glow.
Speaker 2:Oh man. Well, today we're gonna I don't know maybe go down a little bit in caliber of film, but we're on the road to WrestleMania. It's WrestleMania season. We are all either wrestling fans or recovering wrestling fans. I'll speak for myself.
Speaker 1:It's a cycle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm a little bit out right now, but we figured we would just tackle the 2000 classic. Ready to Rumble. Is it a classic, Corey? It's something.
Speaker 3:It's definitely a film. It is a movie that exists. It has a beginning, a classic Corey. It's something. It's definitely a film. It is a movie that exists.
Speaker 1:It has a beginning, a middle and an ending it goes the allotted 90 minutes.
Speaker 3:It is also free on YouTube. You do not have to pay money to see this movie.
Speaker 1:Double feature guys.
Speaker 2:Wow, right there you can please start with Ready to Rumble and then use the Last Dragon as a good palette cleanser.
Speaker 1:Yes, please, before you use the last dragon as a good palette cleanser?
Speaker 2:yes, please, before you go out into the world, um, but this isn't a traditional episode. We're kind of coming to you in our dream cast that's right um context here. Well, we're not. We don't have a director, we're not, we're not going to create one definitive cast. Instead, all three of us are going to bring you our own cast.
Speaker 2:Yes, but with our own spin on it, a little wrestling spin, if you will, cory you know, so um nick you're going to recast this film with modern aew, yes, which some would argue is the modern wcw who made this movie. It's a strong argument, kind of the chaotic wrestling brand. Yes, yes, um, aaron, you're gonna be doing modern wwe, you're gonna, you're gonna fill this movie with modern wrestling stars, yep, and I will be doing the alternate timeline. I will be acting like WWF. Wcw competitor made this movie in 2000. So I will be using Attitude Era WWF.
Speaker 1:Yes, this was before the Wildlife Refuge sued them.
Speaker 2:It feels like you guys might have it a little easier than I do. I mean, people will probably know the names we say, that's also true, possibly.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, if you're listening and you're just curious and you have no idea what wrestling is or anything, this probably is going to be a good time for you, but for wrestling fans it's going to be a good time, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think so.
Speaker 1:I think so. This one's for the love of the game, guys. Yeah, yeah, but by all means, if you're not a wrestling fan, listen, and that's why we're here. Yeah, it's March, it's about to be April.
Speaker 2:Cody Rhodes is finally going to finish that stupid story. Maybe.
Speaker 1:Maybe, Maybe Maybe Not if Dwayne has anything to do with it. The Rock is back.
Speaker 3:The Rock is back and violence is back, very upset that people aren't cheering for the Rock right now. The Rock is. He is super upset, but at least he's fully embraced his heel role.
Speaker 2:And that's probably how we should have let off is. If you don't know wrestling, that's where Dwayne Johnson comes from Right right, that's how we got him.
Speaker 3:Yay.
Speaker 2:Courtesy of WWE. Alright, cool, nick, we need to talk about.
Speaker 1:Ready to Rumble. We do need to talk about Ready to Rumble. So for those of you that are uninitiated, ready to Rumble is a movie made in 2000. It came out specifically on April 7th 2000. So right around the time of release for this episode It'll be 24 years old. It was directed by Brian Robbins, who is known for Good Burger, varsity Blues, the Shaggy Dog and Norbit. That's his top listing. He made Varsity Blues. That's wild.
Speaker 3:But it makes sense, doesn't it? That's a huge. On Rotten Tomatoes you can see they have the whole meter of actors and it goes up and down how they do movies and stuff Everything that you listed at the bottom besides Good Burger and Varsity Blues.
Speaker 1:I didn't know. He made your bit too. Nostalgia can only take you so far, wow.
Speaker 2:Varsity Blues is just tonally way different than everything else you said it's like he tried it, that one.
Speaker 1:It's all of that era for sure, the late 90s turn of the millennium. It's got that vibe to it.
Speaker 2:I'm kind of looking at a picture of him. I feel like maybe he played football in high school, so maybe just varsity he took it serious yeah yeah, maybe this is serious guys.
Speaker 1:And then he was like now I'm gonna try wrestling, and it just didn't quite go as well, and in norbit, norbit's for me, that one's for me, he's just like, he's like that one was for me. Let's do, I'll do all these studio films now, but norbit that's for me my dream passion is to make an eddie murphy movie where he plays a nerd you know he plays several different characters in the movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm looking at his larger okay, I mean, he's mainly a producer, but he does a lot of listen, and I'm just saying because it's you know, a thing right now, but he's really, like, involved in a lot of listen, and I'm just saying because it's a thing right now, but he's really involved in a lot of Dan Schneider productions which he's getting roasted really hard by an.
Speaker 3:HBO series right now for not having safe working environments.
Speaker 2:So just saying this could be interesting. Brian Robbins might have some answering to do. Well, probably not. He's still making movies. Yeah's producing a new Rugrats there you go, he's fine Anyway.
Speaker 1:So it was written by Stephen Brill. His credits are Heavyweights, Mighty Ducks and Little Nicky. Damn yeah he's got a good slew there of some quality films. Now this movie Ready to Rumble. The budget was $24 million and it has a box office of $12.5 million. It did not make back its money, which is not surprising given the state of WCW and just the state of the movie itself.
Speaker 3:That was just a regular Monday for WCW Just shelling out a bunch of money and not getting it back.
Speaker 1:Those later days especially.
Speaker 3:That was what A Thursday Night Thunder episode apparently Pretty much Corey for useless critic stats.
Speaker 1:I'll run through these. Thursday night Thursday night, thunder episode, apparently pretty much um Corey for useless critic stats. I'll run through these real quick so we can get to the good part of the show. Uh, imdb gives it a 5.3. Rot tomatoes it's a 23% for the critics, a 52% for audiences. Metacritic also 23%, 8.2 for audiences. So some love there for Metacritic, that's all for audiences, so some love there for.
Speaker 1:Metacritic. That's fair. Letterboxd gives it a 2.6, I gave it a 2.5 and a lot of that score is nostalgia, just because it was fun to see wrestlers in a movie.
Speaker 2:I don't know if Corey you actually know that I've ever taken the time to give you just on the spot.
Speaker 1:You Letterboxd, reviewed it. What would you give it? Corey, I'd probably give it a 2 Aaron, same, same question to you.
Speaker 3:I'm going to give it a two and I want to fire Randy Savage's manager because, like, or just be like, I guess his apology to Randy Savage was, I'll get you in Spider-Man, because Spider-Man came out after this and Randy Savage is wasted in this movie.
Speaker 1:He is I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he shows up for the dream sequence at the gas station, and then is just not involved in the rest of it I'm glad you guys said that, because a lot of the bigger names in WCW opt out of this movie. I don't know why, but like Kevin Nash, sting, booker T, a lot of these dudes just don't have any role and a lot of them are just background.
Speaker 1:They're just hanging out in the back.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying but a lot of the bigger names Scott Hall, these and have any sort of role. It's like this is a world in which they don't exist. But Randy Savage said I'll do it and they said all right, we got a scene for you, right?
Speaker 1:Or maybe it was just like he's like I'll only do one day.
Speaker 2:It's like are we sure that Randy Savage shouldn't have been the Diamond Dallas Page role? That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Cooking with promos. At the time, ddp was always a baby face. He was never really a he, whereas Savage. Savage could switch it up but like.
Speaker 1:I do remember. I do remember when it came out being weird, confused as why DDP was the bad guy, because he was always like the outlier guy that never really joined the NWO or anything until he joined, like the Wolfpack. But yeah, it's just a lot of weird because you're dealing with a commodity, an entity, an ip, that has its own continuity and lore and the movie almost has to create its own lore and and world building. Because so many wrestlers are absent. You're inserting a fake wrestler that's supposed to be like on hogan levels of, like, superstardom. So it's, it's an interesting concoction of stuff going on there, but for sure. But uh, just to wrap up the critics real quick, uh, roger ebert gave it two stars gory, so he's wow, are you serious?
Speaker 1:he gave it two whole stars, he was nice about it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I thought that was a typo. When you sent that to me, I was like that is no way that he gave this that high of a score shocking very shocking.
Speaker 1:Um, just some of his quotes, you know he. He basically opens it pondering Michael Buffer having to say the phrase ready to rumble before matches. That's the guy who says let's get ready to rumble. And he's saying, and so earnestly, was I not ready to rumble? That I wanted the camera to follow him out of the arena instead of staying for a three cage fight to the death between Jimmy King and Diamond Dallas Page. So he's not praising it, but he does claim that he has a newfound respect for the sport after watching the documentary Beyond the Mat. He's in awe of wrestlers, not as athletes but as masochists, he says. They take a look in and keep on kicking. But after sitting through Ready to Rumble with only the occasional grudging ha, he knows better what a two-star movie looks like, and so I guess, if anything, it helped him gauge what a two-star movie really is. Corey.
Speaker 2:Fair enough. Huh, maybe he was a wrestling fan.
Speaker 1:Maybe closet yeah.
Speaker 2:He's just disappointed. He was just like the rest of us. He's like nostalgia carried this a little bit. I like wrestling, but this is not what I wanted.
Speaker 1:I wanted more, as we all did, well, aaron Corey. This is not what I wanted. I wanted more, as we all did, well, aaron Corey. I'm just going to keep this train moving, but when was the first time you watched this and what are your thoughts?
Speaker 3:now on, ready to Rumble.
Speaker 1:I'll let you start.
Speaker 3:Aaron, the first time I saw this was around the time it came out in 2000,. 2001. When it came out, I did not go to theaters to see this at all. I was a huge WWF fan at the time and it was clearly the better product. So I watched that and when I finally ended up watching the movie, I think I was like homesick from school or something, and you know when things are only like the afternoon, price is Right, had gone off, and I was like, alright, I guess I'll watch Radio.
Speaker 1:Romance.
Speaker 3:It's probably an afternoon movie on TNT yeah and I guess I'll watch Radio Rumble it's probably an afternoon movie on TNT, yeah. And then I remember when David Arquette was the WCW champion and it coincided with this movie and I watched it and I was like oh, this happened and I was like wow, and one part of it bugged the hell out of me and we'll get to it in casting and stuff too. But I never remember the nitro girls being that important to to to wcw nitro, like I know they were.
Speaker 3:Women wrestlers in general were not important to no, no, no, but like the nitro girls they had to find a way to like get female roles in the movie yeah, like the only the only reason I know of like two or three Nitro girls. I know four. I know four Nitro girls. It was Shawn Michaels' wife, whose name I can't remember, sharmell Booker T's wife, stacey Keebler and Tori Wilson. That's it.
Speaker 2:But Was it Diamond Dallas' page wife.
Speaker 1:That's right, kimberly was a Nitro girl too, shawn Michaels'becca, curse, cersei or cursey yeah, I believe it's her name yeah yeah, yeah, yeah and like yeah, I mean, they were just for those that don't know. Nitro girls were just, they were just cheerleaders, basically.
Speaker 3:Yeah they were just basically cheerleaders and like. I watched the movie when I was a kid and I was like, wow, this is just as bad as a bad episode of Nitro and then so, if anything, it's accurate, but it was kind of worse because it took it. The movie itself takes itself way too serious, that's true. These are some grown men who they never go into how old they are, who really, really, really buy into wrestling, and I swear it reminds me of tony khan today.
Speaker 3:honestly, yeah, it's just yeah, yeah way, way into his own product and like and I, and I know saying this, now a bunch of aw fans are gonna attack me on the internet.
Speaker 3:It's fine they just might, they just might switch it to another episode no, no no they'll listen to the whole thing and tell me how I'm wrong and how tony khan is saving wrestling, but I never saw any other wrestling promoters dress up as their favorite wrestler for halloween, but whatever. Um, but then I watched it. The last time I watched, it was like a couple hours before we started recording and even then I was like man, man, there's something in this movie. This movie could still be made today, which is hilarious. It'd be on Tubi and it would be made today and for whatever reason, it's like it would just exist. You know, if you throw some wrestlers in it, people will think that it's good. When that is not the case well, it would probably be.
Speaker 1:It would be funded by wwe or or wc or aw, and yeah, I would just be on some streaming app and just disappear into the other but if wwe funded it, the production value would be great because their production team is on fire.
Speaker 3:like, say what you will about the wwe, they have a great production team that can make a video out of anything I can't wait for AEW to get desperate enough to make a movie that's going to be wonderful.
Speaker 1:Corey is all in.
Speaker 2:It's going to be like Mortal Kombat 2.
Speaker 1:Remember where they tried to cram 50 characters into one movie.
Speaker 2:It's just going to be like 10 second cameos of the entire AEW roster.
Speaker 1:They learned all the wrong lessons from the first movie. It's just going to be like 10 second cameos of the entire AEW roster. They learned all the wrong lessons from the first movie. It was like, oh, we didn't have their favorites in, let's just get everybody in it.
Speaker 3:Let's just get everybody. Let's make some people up. People are going to play double duty. We're going to have big announcements in the middle of the movie. It's going to be great.
Speaker 2:We're just going to have a press release in the credits. Yeah, we're going to have a press conference.
Speaker 3:That's just going to go horribly wrong.
Speaker 2:We're going to have a press conference.
Speaker 3:that goes on as long as the pay-per-view event and there's going to be a fight in the locker room later on.
Speaker 1:Yo.
Speaker 3:This is great.
Speaker 1:Now, corey, you watched this when it was in theaters.
Speaker 2:Oh, I saw this in theaters, okay, it's wild because, like I in my brain, I just like always thought, okay, I watched ready to rumble because I was watching nitro and stuff at the time but, then, when I was kind of looking and researching this, I was like, well, the math doesn't add up.
Speaker 2:I didn't. I didn't realize that eric bischoff was gone by like time this movie came out, that vince russo was in by time this movie came out and I, I like stopped why I had switched to WWF. Like they won the Monday Night War in my heart before Bischoff was gone, yeah, like I never saw the finger poke of doom or any of that stuff in real time. I was already a WWF purist at that point yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1:Once Goldberg the streak ended all their momentum. It was after Crowe's sting, it was after Goldberg's run. That was my time of dropping interest in wrestling.
Speaker 2:I think the Scott Hall tasering Goldberg thing, was my last pay-per-view. I felt like ah.
Speaker 1:So at least you got pay-per-views. Some of us had to wait until the next day to watch and see what happened in photos.
Speaker 2:Well, for context to anyone, wrestling was so big in the 90s. It was one of the most popular things on the planet in the 90s. And so my sister's 20, 20 something, and she, you know, and I was like in middle school, I was like the proper age, but she was like in her 20s and all her friends were also really into wrestling in their 20s and they ordered pay-per-views and my mom made her take it naturally so, because your mom didn't want to go well, she didn't want to watch wrestling.
Speaker 2:So she's like, oh my gosh, get your brother out of here the finger poke of doom.
Speaker 3:That was actually like I used to watch wrestling as a little little kid with my grandma. She used to watch in like the 80s and the early 90s and then, when I became an actual fan, it was literally that episode, the finger poke of doom. And when, uh, oh, no, no no, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 3:And then mick foley won the championship. That's right night. I, literally I, I in my mind, I, I was like I have to choose between these two and Hulk Hogan sucks and this is way better. At least there's a fight over here and that's how.
Speaker 2:I went. That's how I went you got two great sample sizes and just said this one.
Speaker 3:Yep, basically I was like. I was like this is garbage.
Speaker 1:Some of us were in the trenches.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had to watch for years.
Speaker 1:I remember, yeah To the audience. We've been talking a lot of insider baseball. So, yeah, if you're not a wrestling fan at this point, we apologize, but this is probably going to be a very niche episode for you. So just hang on tight if you're still with us. But growing up watching it, yeah, it was obviously the Monday Night Wars carry over to lunchroom talks and arguments and fights. I remember one of my friends, like we'd be arguing Goldberg versus Stone Cold and it was a losing battle. As a WCW fan Like again, my very sheltered upbringing, corey I was not allowed to watch WWF because that was the. That was the bad one.
Speaker 2:And WCW. That was the more tame OK one to watch, yeah, and I guess just like for a quick like 20 second context. When we say monday night wars we're talking about in the 90s the two biggest wrestling companies competed against each other. One essentially ran on nostalgia from stars of the 80s, so the other one pivoted to like, like more mature value like boobs and like blood and all that stuff and they had to kind of make their own stars, which happened to become Stone Cold and the Rock and they end up winning.
Speaker 2:But when you're a kid in the 90s you were watching both. My experience was you have Raw on in the living room and you have Nitro on your parents' TV and you're like running back and forth.
Speaker 1:If you're me, you're just quietly switching over when nobody's in the room and then having to switch back when it's WCW time.
Speaker 3:I treated WCW as a pre-show to Raw because, remember, wcw was three hours at the time. They started an hour earlier than Raw.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I would jump in, you got all the cool.
Speaker 3:Cruiserweight stuff. Yeah, you could watch Eddie Guerrero and Rey Mysterio up until Eddie Guerrero was like I'm done and just left. Left for Greener Pastures, which happened the next year or the same year that this movie came out, or something like that I think it's like the same year, I think in 2000. I think it was the same year, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Because because Ready to Rumble comes out in 2000. And then the, the infamous David Arquette title run is in the middle of that year, and then they have a couple of the triple cage matches and none of none of those guys are anywhere to be seen.
Speaker 2:Basically, yeah, and none of those guys are anywhere to be seen. Basically, yeah, and again for context, to an audience they essentially put the most prestigious belt in all of professional wrestling here.
Speaker 1:On their actual show.
Speaker 2:On an actor just as a gimmick to promote this movie.
Speaker 3:It did not go well with wrestling fans Right. And not only that, that same wrestling championship is like 150 years old today, like legit. That's wild. So with with that story history of wrestling, there will always be david arquette on that list.
Speaker 1:so now I will say and I was gonna wait to say this when we got to david, but I will just say it now, since we're on the topic I did watch the documentary you can't kill david arquette and in that he talks about his time with, during making the movie, being on wcw and then bischoff, and then coming up the idea of like he's gonna have the title and he even he was like that's not a good idea, I feel like that's disrespectful.
Speaker 1:And they were like no, no, we're gonna do it anyway, and like he laughed when they told him about it. So he has spent watching this like you root for david arquette because he spent the last 20 years just getting hated on by wrestling fans. And when he decides it's kind of like he's just having a crisis moment. He's like I'm going to go in and actually do this the right way. So he starts backyard wrestling, he goes into the indies, he even does a hardcore match with Nick Gage and then eventually finishes it off at this big indie wrestling show. That happens, but you root for him because he actually goes through it. So I feel like David Arquette has redeemed himself a bit with this, having watched that. But yes, at the time, it was just seen as the biggest blot on wrestling history.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was sacrilegious for sure, but I mean, vince Russo put that belt on him like a week later.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he got it for himself like a week later.
Speaker 1:So this was the dark times.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and so I mean I guess like to like wrap this up. It's like for the context of this movie is this was a last ditch, like this is wcw on fumes. Wwf has like created these bigger stars. A lot of people have left wcw at this point.
Speaker 2:There's this whole merger happening with time warner and a and warner brothers and all the stuff like, uh, that was going to get rid of wrestling anyways, and so, like, this was just a movie they made as like this last ditch effort and it's yeah, it's it's about as good as the product was on tv pretty much already said and talking about the movie specifically.
Speaker 1:As we get into it, you know, like aaron was talking about. There's moments where they take it so seriously, but then there's literally a joke where david arquette sticks his finger in his butt and acts like that's what his milkshake or slushy tastes like, so you get a free one like this is the level of content we're dealing with here, but that's 2000s for you anyway as well yeah, no, it was it was a time.
Speaker 3:It was a time it was a time it was, I guess, erin.
Speaker 1:What were you gonna say?
Speaker 3:I'm sorry no, I'm just saying like, like the early 2000s with movies, it's like it's hard to watch now, like even as. I'm older In the year 2000,. I was 16, turning 17. I'm 40 now and it is hard to go back and watch a lot of movies. I cannot watch Superbad at all. I'm just like.
Speaker 1:Some of them hold up pretty well. Nostalgia helps them out, but then there's nostalgia helps them out. But then the other some, like this one, that just they just did, they did not, they did they.
Speaker 2:They were soured the minute they came out oh yeah, you know, like after like cobain kills himself and like brings like the 90s to a halt early, yeah, like there was like an identity crisis. You know, it's like the 90s, like whoa, whoa, we were supposed to be gritty and like sad, and so we like threw boy bands and girl bands at pop culture. Then movies are like hey, at the box office it's Fight Club and American Pie and everyone likes both.
Speaker 3:Right, right, there was no in between. I love both of those movies and I'm just like huh.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. It's like the zeitgeist of the late 90s, early 2000s, like didn't exist, it's like it couldn't, it didn't find footing for a minute.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like when you say when you say that kurt cobain was like the catalyst. I believe you when you say that because, like it wasn't too long after that that we got a brady bunch movie. We got two brady bunch movies in the 90s, like, like, where did it come from it?
Speaker 1:What a time to be alive.
Speaker 2:I mean I'm not bashing your love of Nu Metal and everything, nick, but yeah, it's like even music was confused. It's all weird.
Speaker 1:It's all crazy. It's okay to bash Nu Metal.
Speaker 2:I'm not bashing it. It's just like Limp Bizkit's, the biggest band in the world in like 1999 and you're like huh, that was true, that was weird, that was a fact, if anything could put this into context.
Speaker 1:Like Nu Metal was for its time, it worked at its time and in retrospect it only works in moments of nostalgia where you're like, oh yeah, okay, that works, that's fun.
Speaker 2:I'm not bashing Again. It's weird that Britney Spears and Fred Dersh were both equally famous at the same time. You're right, you're not wrong, and it's just like. That's weird and wild, but kind of cool. I guess that we saw it. It's just in 2008,. It comes out and resets back to 93.
Speaker 3:Like, alright, this is what we were aiming for. It's like, when you think about it, the kids who like Limp Bizkit and the kids who like Christina Aguilera a lot of those kids hung out.
Speaker 1:Dad, what was it like growing up in 2000 in middle school? Well, son, it was hard times. It was wild times. It was a wild time.
Speaker 2:You know, in pop culture we were extremely tolerant. It was just you liked what you liked when it came to pop culture, it's true.
Speaker 3:It's true Now, it's just like we're all mad about the Disney Plus logo changing on our streaming apps. We're like why did they change? The color yeah, you get mad as hell before you watch X-Men.
Speaker 2:You're like wait, what the fuck? Yeah, but back then, no, at the school dance it's Genie in a Bottle, followed by Break Stuff. And you know we're getting really upset that someone put Break Stuff on.
Speaker 1:But you're like you're kind of head bumping into both, and then it's Nelly, and then it's DMX, and then it's back around Christina Aguilera.
Speaker 2:It's a balance.
Speaker 1:Corey, it's a balance.
Speaker 2:This is the time to be alive, alright.
Speaker 1:Are we ready to do this, guys?
Speaker 2:I'm ready. I'm ready, I think I'm ready.
Speaker 3:I think I'm in the mood now. I'm in an early 2000s mood right now.
Speaker 2:Okay, Okay, Alright, so again, but we're all in different um eras of of pro wrestling. Now, again, Aaron's going to provide us a modern, like a ready to rumble that's staffed out by modern WWE. Yeah, Uh, wrestlers. Um, Nick, you're bringing us modern AEW. Um, again, you may say a lot of names that no one knows um, yeah yeah, I'm probably not gonna know half the people. You say, um, and I've tried watching aw, but gosh, you watch it one week, you watch the next week. You're like who are these people? Where are the people?
Speaker 2:I watched last week and then I'm gonna bring you ready to rumble. Same era of 2000, but I'm just gonna pretend. Wwf, the competing company, made the movie okay um now, just for reference, what I did was I cast wrestlers where there's wrestlers and I cast 2,000 actors where there were 2,000 actors.
Speaker 1:Okay, and I casted mostly wrestlers, a few of the roles that were actors, but they were like a wrestler per se, other than like our top three actors or characters. I pretty much was like let me get a female wrestler, let me get a promoter type of character to put into that spot. But I think when we discussed this we were flexible with the options.
Speaker 2:I was just saying this is what I did. So if you guys are weirded out that I have actors on my Wait, you have actors, actors in a movie. So listen, I've seen wrestlers try to act and it's I'm just doing it, all right. Um so how do we want to do this, nick?
Speaker 1:I'm gonna let you take over, Okay, so we're going to do 30 seconds or less, and the way that we're going to do this is that, uh, we will each uh go round round by round, character by character, and give our choice, uh, for our 30 seconds or less from this movie and wrestlers we are recasting will be Perry Saturn and Sid Vicious, who act as the muscle for the manager, promoter of the show. The villain yeah, Sal Bandini, who is just like he's a. He's a based off Stu Hart yeah, Basically the Stu Hart, old former wrestler that trains our our King wrestler actor to get back into shape.
Speaker 1:Old school wrestler who trains the new wrestlers. Goldberg, bill Goldberg, yeah, goldberg Bill Goldberg, he's just a mountain of a man, top, top kind of wrestler at the time. Sting, the icon Sting those of you that are wondering the guy that looks like the crow in the movie, that's him, and we do not speak ill of him in any way, shape or form. He is a legend. And then Sheriff Boggs, who is played by Richard Lineback. He is basically David Arquette's father who is forcing him to become a police officer in the movie.
Speaker 2:He just came off of Varsity Blues by the same director and he said, hey, do you want to play the same character. You want to force your dreams on some kid.
Speaker 1:So what we'll do is we'll just go character by character and each of us will give our character for that role, or wrestler for that role, and, just to remind everybody, state the promotion that you're working with and then your character, and we'll go on from there Got it. Aaron, since you're our guest, I will start with you first. So go ahead and give us your Perry Saturn.
Speaker 3:My Perry Saturn is. I can't tell which Uso is which, but for Perry Saturn I have the one Uso who's still part of the bloodline, the one who always looks like he's crying every time that jimmy, jimmy, jimmy uso when it always looks like he's crying every time roman reigns says something to him or looks at him okay okay, yeah, because it's just the perfect goon role like I like it's just he would literally do that, since you know it and I think I kind of just gave away my whole list by saying that, but whatever, maybe a little tease.
Speaker 3:There's just a little tease of what's to come, since I'm doing current wwe and uh, yeah, I got jimmy uso in the perry saturn seat okay, cory, who's, who's your, who's one of your perry saturn grunts um, um, um, my list, my list.
Speaker 2:It is, and again I might be giving away my other goon by saying this, but Road Dogg, Road Dogg of DX.
Speaker 1:Alright, very I wonder who could be your other goon in a two-man group in this situation.
Speaker 3:Leave R-Truth alone. He is as great as K-Quick, okay.
Speaker 1:So we'll do this very quickly, snake style, cause I think we can all kind of guess what's what's going to come in the next round. So so I'm going to give my two. Then you guys can come back with the other half of your, the, the muscle of this group. But I'm giving you powerhouse Hobbs and Kinsuke Takishita. I can't say his name right I?
Speaker 1:can't say his name, right? Are you making people up? I'm not making people up. So these two are part of the Don Callis family. Don Callis is a manager heel type character, so they're going to be the muscle in this situation and we'll have Don Callis in the background looming. I guess you'll say but who's rounding out your guys? Corey, I'll bounce back to you. We'll wrap back up with Aaron.
Speaker 2:Badass Billy Guns.
Speaker 1:We've got Road Dogg Jesse James, the Badass, Billy Guns yes, that is my muscle.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 3:I of course have Solo Sakoa as Sid Vicious. He can wrestle, but he can't cut a promo for shit.
Speaker 1:That's fair. John Cena destroyed him with half a voice.
Speaker 2:Half a voice. Oh, that's good, that's good.
Speaker 1:Okay. So, Aaron, we'll start with you again. So, Sal Bandini, who do you got for your veteran wrestler?
Speaker 3:So for my veteran wrestler I went on a comedic route, since Martin Landau is not an athletic person at all and just seeing him in a movie is just joy. I got a fellow wrestling fan of Sal Bandini in this, and I have last week, tonight's john stewart.
Speaker 1:Oh hey, I'm all right, just have him. Just have him kind of like back in my day.
Speaker 3:We used to do it this way right and just have a body slamming the hell out of people out of nowhere okay, I see, I see where the tone's going a little bit on your side.
Speaker 1:Very good, cory, who, who do you have for?
Speaker 2:what will be in his final film role? Okay, as he will die midway through 2000, oh no, but he had an acting credit, so I'm following my own rules, walter Matthau.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's very interesting. I see where you guys have gone with this. You've leaned fully into the hilarity of it all.
Speaker 2:I fully believe Walter Matthau could have beat the shit out of people in his last year of life.
Speaker 3:I'm almost positive that he did. There's an orderly somewhere with a story to tell about Walter Matthau in Hospice.
Speaker 1:Oh, 100%, 100%. To round out this round of it for me, I picked Arne Anderson. I think that former four horsemen he's just going to have a lot of fun and he's just a big birdly guy that's going to be hilarious to watch beating people up. And then he ends up in the hospital and he's like I almost had him and he is still around, isn't he?
Speaker 2:He's still around on AEW. Okay, I forgot about that.
Speaker 1:He's more behind the scenes now, but he was kind of acting as a manager in started. Alright, so for the Goldberg role. In this role in the movie, Jimmy Keen's trying to find somebody to help him out so he can get his title back, and Goldberg initially says no and comes to help at the end of the movie. So, Aaron, who do you have to replace Bill Goldberg?
Speaker 3:I have the one person that I can actually see them doing this to in real wrestling, like just somebody who would just smile his ass off as someone else won the championship and not him.
Speaker 1:LA.
Speaker 3:Knight.
Speaker 1:LA Knight. All right I like that. Listen, he's going to deliver those lines. Well, he's going to be real charismatic and then, yeah, he's going to come in to save the day. Everybody's going to have a big pop and be like yeah.
Speaker 3:Closest he's ever going to get to that belt now, because too many people have come back. It's not happening for him soon. That's so sad. Hey, there's two titles, there's a shot. There's two titles and LA Knight ain't been on TV in weeks.
Speaker 1:No, he's feuding with AJ Styles. They're going to have like a home invasion angle, so he's going to they went back to the home invasion angle.
Speaker 3:Oh my goodness. Well, every 10th WrestleMania there has to be a home invasion angle, that's true.
Speaker 2:Oh man, that's good, there's only one answer, for if this was the attitude, it's Stone Cold, steve Austin.
Speaker 3:Absolutely it's.
Speaker 1:Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Speaker 2:He's the guy in the gym saying, hell, no, I got my own thing going on. And then at the end, when Ba, with the Ba hits, we're going to stand up and cheer.
Speaker 1:That's true, can we?
Speaker 3:pause real quick. There are a lot of kid rock songs in this movie too. There are a lot of kid rock songs in this movie.
Speaker 1:I'm speaking of people that fit perfectly into the 2000s. Oh man, he's done country after this, but only that era of essence of kid rock exists and he's still living there, man Still rocking it out In his mind.
Speaker 2:It's still 2000.
Speaker 1:Okay, so for mine. So this is where it's going to get a lot of new names. So there's a lot of tumultuous stuff going on the past couple years with AEW and now they're starting to push some new guys to the forefront. But I'm going to put Will Ospreay here. Will Ospreay, of New Japan fame. He just signed a contract with aw and you can tell that he is uh definitely going to be like their next big thing. He's super charismatic, he can wrestle. He's just had like a almost five star match on his first match pay-per-view match. But yeah, he's gonna be. He's gonna be my guy for this situation all right very cool.
Speaker 1:All right, we have to replace the icon sting next. Uh, aaron, who do you have to show up at the end and and save the day?
Speaker 3:So we just talked about this. I had no idea that they were feuding, but I got AJ Styles right here.
Speaker 1:Okay, interesting. So they set their. If we're doing it right now, they set their feud aside to help our Jimmy King to get the title back.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, none of these storylines make sense. All of these wrestlers who are in the ring had no business being with each other had no business being with each other.
Speaker 1:They don't? We just have to assume we kind of go with the flow, create our own story as we're going. I like AJ Styles.
Speaker 2:He can kind of put some mystery around him, even though it's not necessarily his thing.
Speaker 1:You can just see it as like that's. The weird thing is, I feel, like the Titus character there should have been a montage, as Jimmy was getting ready, of him going to all these wrestlers saying if you mess with this match, I'm going to fire you. Because you only get the scene with him in Sting where he's like if you do anything, I'm going to kill you, basically. So I feel like that would have helped if he had gone to Goldberg and Booker T and all of them be like don't mess with this match, Corey, who do you have for your Sting?
Speaker 2:Okay, I need you guys to understand that in 2000, Undert it's not Undertaker.
Speaker 3:He's the American badass, that's fair. He's off the table.
Speaker 2:Before wrestling fans come at me and hate me. He is not the dead man right now. He is riding a Harley and coming in to get rock music. So it's perfect, I have Kane Kane's still wearing the mask. He's still not speaking. We get the flames.
Speaker 1:It's cool, so he just kind of gives a thumbs up at the end instead of saying Jimmy King's, alright by me.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, alright, fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 3:Kane was a babyface in 2002 because he was tag-teaming with Xbox Okay cool.
Speaker 1:That's true it works.
Speaker 2:I like yeah, xbox can come in with him and say thePac Okay, all right.
Speaker 1:Never mind For my replace sting. For me I'm picking Malachi black, who is who will be with the house of black. Basically they're the dark undertaker group, that of this of this AW iteration. They kind of tweeners, so usually their heels, but people like them, so when they want to be liked they can be very easily. But Malachi he's, he's got that dark essence to him so and they have cool entrances because it'll be a blackout and suddenly they just all appear in like their crazy, like death metal, looking like masks and stuff. So I can just see that happening at the top of the ring. Lights go out. They're all standing there. Malachi just gives his roundhouse kick to take out our diamond dallas page character. Okay, it's around out to 30 seconds or less, which is taking much longer than 30 seconds. Um, sheriff boggs, aaron, who do you got?
Speaker 3:I got tommy lee jones okay, I got a real one I got tommy lee jones. I can't think of anybody else who could play a better cop, dad wanting their son to be a cop and just being pissed all the way off that their son is just like their grown adult son is just really into professional wrestling at an obsessive level.
Speaker 1:Tommy Lee Jones would be so upset by this as well. That makes sense, for sure, I like it Corey who do you got?
Speaker 2:I'm bringing in Robert Patrick. You know he didn't make great decisions after Terminator 2.
Speaker 1:Are you saying that Double Dragon isn't a good decision?
Speaker 2:He followed Terminator 2 up with Double Dragon, and so things didn't work out. By this time he's like in the Dust Till Dawn sequels, and so I figure we'll just let him be. You know, we'll let him have some sort of dramatic chops here.
Speaker 1:There's also the John Cena uh, the tv show that I did, the james gunn uh superhero show. I mean he did things, yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 2:I mean he's like johnny cash's dad and walk the line. I mean he's, he's around, but yeah, I feel like he could do it. The show I'm referencing is peacemaker he plays john cena's dad in that, because he's a great father he's a terrible Johnny Cash's dad, terminator's dad, john Cena's dad, for sure okay, so to round out mine, I picked Walton Goggins.
Speaker 1:Of course you did, of course I did. I know, I know I thought I was tempted Billy Bob Thornton, but I did Walton Goggins instead you blew it, I did, I know I know, and that rounds out our 30 seconds or less.
Speaker 1:so that's who we got on the undercard. We'll call it for our wrestling episode. So now we're on the main card, if you will Got it, and we're going to start at the bottom with Sasha. Who was in the WCW version was a nitro girl who is basically warms herself up to David Arquette. She's really collecting information and betrays them. So do what you want here. If you want to get a female wrestler, if you just want somebody's girlfriend, tell me what you got. We'll just keep this order going. So, aaron, who do you have to play Sasha in this?
Speaker 3:or to play the role of Sasha. So I literally just cast this. This was like the hardest one for me, because I was like who could do this? Because current WWE doesn't really have dancers like that. I think they should stay away from that with the current climate over at WWE right now.
Speaker 1:It's fair.
Speaker 3:Yes, To pick an actress to do it.
Speaker 1:I went with Erin Moriarty.
Speaker 3:Erin Moriarty. She's from the Boys. Yes, she's Starlight in the Boys.
Speaker 1:Okay, a heel turn of her own.
Speaker 3:She's always played the good girl and stuff. She can dance too. We can put her in that part.
Speaker 1:There you go. I didn't know she could dance. That'll be fun. Rose McGowan was the original actress to play Sasha. She does a fun job.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's fun.
Speaker 1:This is a movie that there's not a lot of high-level acting needed or necessary. It's just more. Can you be memorable, Can you have fun? And she does a good job.
Speaker 2:I appreciate Rose McGowan's performance in this movie because apparently she hated doing this movie and just did it for money. Apparently she threw the script away three times and then finally just accepted it. That's fair. Then she showed up and tried.
Speaker 1:Good for her.
Speaker 2:She was a professional she tried harder than Kevin Nash did in 2000.
Speaker 3:Look, kevin Nash is a man who can walk and break his legs somehow, oh gosh.
Speaker 1:Oh gosh.
Speaker 2:Okay, alright. So Nick, I played okay for Sasha. I kind of went a little. I didn't do actor or wrestler. I mean kind of wrestler maybe Okay okay, I'm just assuming Stephanie McMahon gets the role.
Speaker 1:Okay, in 2000,. I'm just saying WWF, throws her in there.
Speaker 2:Gotcha.
Speaker 1:Again, they didn't have cheerleaders and like you have, like lita and sable and trish stratus, yeah I'm just putting stephanie okay, going against what I assumed you might do, and it picks stephanie, but that's that probably makes that makes just as much sense. So I thought you might have gone trish stratus.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I'm going stephanie mcmahon okay, but it makes sense though. Yeah, she's, she's. She's daddy's girl on the show, very much so. The billionaire princess okay for mine. I I had a few options here. I wasn't sure which way to go. I did pick a female wrestler and, uh, I'm short of names on this big, big, big names on this uh roster in terms of like that people will know or be aware of. Yes, you are, so I'm gonna go with uh, someone who is trying to do some acting outside of the wrestling world, and I'm gonna go with you. You know her as sasha banks, but now she in the aw, she is mercedes monet, and so I'm gonna have her be our uh turn heel of the group. I know who that is there you go, see see already already I'm I'm working.
Speaker 3:It's already working we must, we must be, above the line, so he's bringing out the names people know yeah, we're in the main event.
Speaker 1:She just recently signed with them and apparently she's the highest paid female wrestler ever. Basically, they brought out the big bucks for her, so hopefully she'll have a good run with the company.
Speaker 3:She won't. She won't jump for WWE anytime soon.
Speaker 1:She won't, aaron, you have to have hope. Okay, I know it's a tumultuous period for AEW. Hopefully they. Okay, hopefully they. I know it's a tumultuous period for aw. Hopefully they can right the ship. We'll see what happens though, um, but we'll move on to speaking of promoters uh, breaking or destroying their creations. Uh, titus sinclair, played by joe pantolano, uh, he's basically the guy who runs this version of wcw, the eric bischoff stand-in, he's like basically just copy and pasted eric bischoff, but they put this weird Texas cowboy thing on him but cast it in Italian.
Speaker 1:It's all over the place. I think he has fun with it, he has a good time with it, he has a great time.
Speaker 2:Joey Pants can do no wrong.
Speaker 1:It's true, he cannot do no wrong.
Speaker 3:Who handled wardrobe for him. Though that jacket was awful, this whole, he would not take it off. It was 2000s.
Speaker 1:He was just like in his mind. He's like so wrestling is like the opposite of taste and style. Okay, got it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, aaron, who do you have for your Titus?
Speaker 3:My Titus is actually. We're back in wrestling. This is somebody who is going into the Hall of Fame, who has never taken a bump in his entire career, even though he has one of the most punchable faces you have ever seen in your life and I have mr paul hayman.
Speaker 1:I didn't realize he had never taken a bump never I thought he did with never. I I swear I thought brock lesnar when he came back during the roman run that he f5'd him or something roman superman punched him, I thought no, I don't know that hayman can take a bump, that's true.
Speaker 3:That's true hayman would just turn into jelly. If you just look at him, you're right.
Speaker 1:Yes, he would. He would just combust, basically he's already does that when wrestlers are like trying to get their comeuppance against him right, no, that's that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah he's never taken a bump, ever he. That's why he's like almost he's has to be in his early 60s if anything. And surely, if not he's still very coherent for somebody who's been in the business that long he is 58 years old.
Speaker 1:Paul dangerously is almost 60, 58, I would have guessed older yeah cory, cory, who do you got?
Speaker 2:I wrote two names down and they are two vastly different names. Okay, I don't know. I still don't know how I I want to play this.
Speaker 1:You can pick the one that nobody wants to talk about right now, or you can get an actor to play the role, so we don't have to touch on this.
Speaker 3:I didn't go near McMahon, I put an actor here, I Joey Panced it.
Speaker 2:I didn't bring any wrestling person in here, it's more someone who I would want to see do this, because I think, despite their leading man status, they're really just a good character actor. Gotcha, or listen, I'm just going to do that, tom Cruise.
Speaker 3:Okay, all right.
Speaker 2:Tom Cruise would steer into this hard.
Speaker 1:Listen, when Tom Cruise commits to something and if you get him to commit to it, he commits 110%, we're bringing the Tom Cruise that was in that Rock of Ages musical, the Tropic Thunder Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no business being in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with all. I mean, like at least in Tropic Thunder, he's surrounded by A-list people. I have no idea how the Rock of Ages people paid this man to be in a movie with Diego Boneta and Diego ruins that movie and Julian, or Julie Hough, or whatever Julian Hough, which was she was great tom cruise becomes that role he does and it's just act and I'm like I want that tom cruise yeah, no, I totally get that, that you get him in the suit.
Speaker 1:You just make it. Are you gonna make him just be vince mcmahon, basically, or? Not putting him in the cowboy hat and stuff he's gonna be that version okay, we're just horribly dressed wrestling promoter because he's in long hair mode, right now, yeah, it's. Mission Impossible 2 time.
Speaker 2:It's all that stuff. Yeah, we're good, I love that. My other one was David Spade.
Speaker 1:David Spade no, you chose right, you went right Part of me hopes that Tom Cruise is secretly a huge wrestling fan. It's just something he can never admit to anybody. So for me, I picked wrestlers, and it'll make sense when I say it. I'm picking two people. What? No, yes, no. You can't have one without the other and I don't like them. But I'm picking the Young Bucks. They are the EVPs.
Speaker 1:I know it's gross when you say it out, but who are you going to root against more than this movie? And if they were to make an AEW movie, you know they would be involved in some form or fashion.
Speaker 2:I hate the Young Bucks Listen it's why I won't watch AEW.
Speaker 1:I know we're hating on AEW a lot and one of our close friends loves AEW and we're not sure and you love it.
Speaker 3:I enjoy it as well too.
Speaker 2:It's me and Aaron that are piling on here.
Speaker 1:I'm playing defense here. There is a lot of positives and AEW's existence has has led to WWE getting better. You know there are other factors, including Vince McMahon being gone.
Speaker 2:Vince McMahon's setting his life on fire.
Speaker 1:But that's the whole reason WWF got better, like we talked about, was that it created competition. They couldn't sit on their laurels anymore. They couldn't live off the 80s and the Hulkamania of the past. They had to create new stars and that's how we got Stone Cold and the Rock.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't call AEW competition, though, because, like, when I say a WWF name or WWE name, you know who I'm talking about. You said a couple AEW names and, like Google is having a hard time finding these people.
Speaker 1:I think it's, but I think it's a. It's just more of like the threat of it, really, because they've seen this happen before that the upstart group over here suddenly grew and took off. It became popular for wrestling fans.
Speaker 2:I think it's like it's. I think it's like a it's. I think it's less the Monday Night Wars, where you're afraid that someone will go over there and like the ratings will be a thing. It's more like we just don't want this guy to go work over there. It's like that thing, it's like my thing is.
Speaker 1:I just wish that they would get their ship right so that there could be because because when they're good, everybody else it's more wrestling, more quality stuff to pay attention to. If you're not a fan of the WWE style, you can come over here and enjoy this. If you're not a fan of that, there's New Japan and so on and so forth. But yes, the Young Bucks, they're dastardly Now. They're really leaning into their whole executive vice president roles right now and being dirtbags. Luckily they lost to Sting in his final match. Thank goodness they're not going to be great actors, but this is a wrestling movie. We're throwing that out.
Speaker 2:The window for sure. I feel like, if you get two, I should get Tom Cruise and David Spade.
Speaker 1:It's like 1A and 1B.
Speaker 3:Can I toss in a Teddy Long Just?
Speaker 1:to make a tag team match at the end of it.
Speaker 3:There you go.
Speaker 2:This is going to become a tag team match it's of it. There you go, yeah, I just yeah. This is gonna become a tag team, match it's gonna have to involve the undertaker wait, they set up a tag team match at the end of the movie. There you go, yeah instead of instead of ball, with the ball hitting, it's just teddy long's music and he forces, forces the goldberg character to go.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, oh my gosh all right okay, so let's move up the roster here. Now we're getting into our two actual actors Scott Kan, who plays Sean Dawkins. A lot of people know him from a lot of different movies, like the Ocean's Eleven trilogy. He's also is he in?
Speaker 3:Varsity Blues as well. He's in Varsity Blues. He's in Varsity.
Speaker 1:Blues too. Yeah, so most of you will know him from those. He's also in Gone in 60 Seconds, but he's not the main guy for that obviously Scott Kahn's son.
Speaker 3:Scott Kahn's son. Yeah, he's in that movie. He's one of the two guys.
Speaker 2:Sorry, James Kahn's son. Yeah, James Kahn.
Speaker 1:He's one of the two guys that grew up loving wrestling and they're trying to get Jimmy Kane level-headed. He's helping and then he falls for the girl back home. That's pretty much his plot line. Corey, Aaron, Aaron, start with you. Who do you have for your Gordy?
Speaker 3:I actually got Jack.
Speaker 1:Quaid, I'm sorry, not Gordy Sean, I got Jack.
Speaker 3:Quaid for Sean Jack Quaid. I love that pick.
Speaker 1:That's a good one, love. Maybe Carl Oben will make an appearance, corey. Maybe, so, Corey, who do you have for Sean?
Speaker 2:I have Sean William Scott, I just have the other, scott Conn.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:Wait, you didn't put him in the.
Speaker 3:David Arquette role no, no, he's the side guy. He's the side guy. Him playing against type would be way better.
Speaker 1:So we're not stifling him, we're saying like you're going to be the more sensible guy of the group.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, I can see why. I mean, it's just the other, scott Kahn of the time.
Speaker 1:I feel like that's fair. Okay, well, for me my choice. I went with a wrestling fan himself. You guys know him from Straight Outta Compton O'Shea Jackson Jr son of Ice Cube.
Speaker 2:I love O'Shea Jackson Jr. O'shea's great. We love O'Shea.
Speaker 3:What's funny about this is I almost put O'Shea Jackson in my casting as well, just because of the last month and a half that he's had with wrestling fans and stuff.
Speaker 1:He's just been really vocal, right he's been very vocal.
Speaker 3:He I share a lot of his same thoughts and stuff on things. But like my, my gourd, I went with another way of my. He was going to be my gordy but I went another way with him. We'll talk about that in a second.
Speaker 1:But yeah, o'shea jackson jr is a great pick for that spot too yeah, I think he's gonna have a lot of fun in this role and like and he'll, he'll love the, he'll love, he'll love wrestling. He'll treat it properly. I think you get enough people in there that are like, listen, wrestling's fun. We just got to do it the right way. It'll be a decent little movie, yeah, okay. Well, speaking of Gordy Aaron, this is the David Arquette role, the much maligned, infamous David Arquette role.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's trying to not be a cop basically, we're going to ruin whoever you put here. We're ruining their career, no no, because they're going to go on live television and win the belt.
Speaker 1:Listen, we're time travelers, Corey. We can say we're not doing that. This is just a movie. This isn't happening.
Speaker 2:I'm living in the now. Oh, you're fine, your actor's just going to win an AEW belt. That's like five years old. No one cares.
Speaker 1:He's going to win one like the meme, like his arms are going to be full. Yeah Well, Aaron, who do you have for Gordie?
Speaker 3:Mine will not walk into current WWE and win their top belt. He will win a match. He will win a match at SummerSlam, probably against Seth Rollins, because that's who they put against celebrities a lot of times. But I against Seth Rollins because that's who they put against celebrities.
Speaker 1:A lot of times I'm going with Zac Efron. Zac Efron, oh man, he's out there promoting Ready to Rumble and Ironclaw. He's going two opposite spectrums of wrestling movies like the very serious, sad tragedy to the very over the top tongue-in-cheek promotion.
Speaker 2:And Zac and Jack Quaid. That's a fun pair that's you know.
Speaker 1:I in my mind I would have had them swapped just because it. But you're going against. Type here a little bit with zach yeah, he's gonna be playing kind of the buffoon of the two yeah, I like it he's. He's had his roles in comedies and stuff for sure so I think that works really well.
Speaker 3:I like zach, he's pretty funny he's a likable.
Speaker 1:I think he'd get a lot of flack for the high school musical stuff but he's, he's a phenomenal actor yeah, for sure, cory. Who do you have for gordy?
Speaker 2:I'm putting them together a little early, okay. Johnny knoxville jackass is the biggest thing in the world right now we're gonna beat dukes of hazard by four years.
Speaker 1:Beautiful, but we're gonna have johnny knoxville hey, listen, you know, john william scott, if you had thrown jessica simpson at the sasha role, we could have just forgotten.
Speaker 2:Do you forget duke's hazard happened yeah, I'm going with johnny knoxville because I just see it in my head and he, hey, he was in a wrestling ring, that's fair.
Speaker 1:it's on point like and he has he's had one of the better celebrity matches against sammy zane where they just leaned into the jackass aspects of it 100%, and so since we're rewriting history here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's not going to win the belt, but he's going to go in and do some like hardcore matches where he goes through like real glass and chairs and stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. That's so good. That's on point. Very good, very well done, my Gordie. I'm pulling somebody that's kind of popular right now. We're still waiting on the final season to show up, but I'm going to give you Joe Keery. If you don't know who Joe Keery is, he's one of the Stranger Things kids. Joe Keery most people know him for his immaculate hair. He is I can't remember his name at the moment on the show Steve Harrington, the Steve Harrington of the world. I think he can play. He seems like he has some range to him. I just recently found out he has like this top 40 hit, but he has. He has like this side project as a music person.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, yeah, he, but he and they just I guess he was trying to do it under the radar and and people on TikTok found out and they were like, oh, it's that guy which is kind of wild to think about. It's DJO or DJO, but anyway it's a hit that's been used on the internet a lot recently. But I pick a Joe Keery because I feel like he can kind of ride that line between being the likable Steve Harrington and then going a little more left field and being kind of the crazy Gordy of this movie.
Speaker 2:You couldn't bring us good wrestlers until you brought us bad actors too.
Speaker 1:That's unfortunate. Okay, you gotta see the whole vision when we get there, Corey I don't think, joe.
Speaker 3:I get the entire vision because he's going with AEW. I get it. You're knocking it out of the park.
Speaker 2:Hey, let's just bring this other kid from a bad show that everyone thinks is good because of nostalgia.
Speaker 1:You guys are the haters club today.
Speaker 2:Oh man, it's fine, it's fine. It in the haters club today. Oh man, it's fine, it's fine it's fine, it's fine, okay, I only watched the first season. I can't speak to you. I love it, so that's the best season. Okay, all right, so I saw what I needed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you did you did, you did. Okay. We're rounding out for our main event. In for our challenger who currently holds the title at the end of the movie diamond dallas. Page, uh, page. Joseph falconberg jr is his real name wild.
Speaker 3:Yes, I know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there you go. But Diamond Dallas Page tried to pitch an alternate ending when they go behind in the locker room after everything's happened and him and Jimmy King hug it out and basically, like the main characters are confused. They're like welcome to the show, guys. Like this is all, we're friends. We're not really like I was like that doesn't work in the storyline that they presented.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like yes in the wrestling that they presented.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, in the wrestling world, when you break Cave Abe, yeah, they're all teammates, they're dance partners, as they call themselves sometimes. But in the movie logic you're like that doesn't work. So I'm glad that they didn't do that, because it would have broke everything. But I think Diamond Dallas Page does well here. For a guy that's not normally a heel, he did really good. No, he does great. It's fine. Yeah, for sure. Okay, let's start the first half of our main event. Aaron, who do you have in this role?
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, I kind of buried, I kind of just dug into it earlier. My DDP is going to be Roman Reigns in this. He's a guy.
Speaker 1:The tribal chief himself.
Speaker 3:He can't win a match without 8 million people getting involved in it. You're right. He's the biggest heel in wrestling right now. He's the biggest star we got right now. It's got to be him, he's putting his stuff in, yeah.
Speaker 1:Tomorrow's SmackDown is going to be interesting.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying.
Speaker 1:They will. What happens at WrestleMania will be very interesting. I'm curious to see what direction they decide to go with. But that makes sense For a modern WDB context. If you're going to get the heel, you've got to get Roman Reigns there for sure.
Speaker 2:Considering they tried to take this asinine three-tier cage thing out of this movie that they made for the movie and make it an actual match. One thing that they should have actually pulled from this movie is the entrance. That's a moat.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Just for Roman Reigns matches Like they should raise the moat and you just close off the back.
Speaker 3:Just close off the back, don't let anybody in who's not already at their seat, so nobody can come through the crowd.
Speaker 1:We can't do Inferno matches, so just do the opposite. Tell all the cameramen.
Speaker 3:If you see a cameraman wearing a hood, you know what's up. It's like no black hoods on the staff, everybody. I need to see faces. Check underneath Michael Cole, scooch back. Check under the announce booth, you know.
Speaker 2:I do. I love pro wrestling because it's just the cameraman hits somebody and takes his hoodie off and it's like no one saw that guy no one saw that.
Speaker 3:Where's the?
Speaker 2:actual cameraman is.
Speaker 3:He's tied up somewhere yeah yeah, like where's he has a family.
Speaker 2:That dude got a family and everything like it's it's.
Speaker 3:It's astounding how they keep going with the same finish for roman reigns matches they're super boring it's like all right.
Speaker 1:Well, I get the cowardly heel mentality, but you've also been trying to book roman as like this unstoppable heel, so there should be matches where he just dominates or he just wins outright yeah, it's like nope, he's about to lose.
Speaker 3:Here comes soa with his thumb. A thumb can take people out everyone it's a samoan spike, aaron.
Speaker 1:Uh, you have to be aware of that they're lethal. Corey, who do you have for WWF For Diamond, dallas Page.
Speaker 2:I wrote three names down and I will just give them in descending order to my actual pick. Clearly the Rock is there, but I just don't want it. I know what's coming and I don't want to jumpstart his career anymore.
Speaker 2:He's already done the horrible Mummy sequel. He's not going to be in my movie. Get him out, trips. I was a little more in love with trips, yeah, yeah. But again, he doesn't need this. He's gonna like be the vice president of this company one day. Just get out and I. He's just, I don't. Stephanie's already in the movie. I don't need that. Okay, all right, it would have made more sense with stephanie in the movie. I'm more going the same thing where it's like someone that's really popular but still not necessarily in the world belt picture, at least not credibly. Chris Jericho.
Speaker 2:He just joined and yes they put both belts on him prematurely and it went horribly wrong. It did, it did go. It was too early. We're getting long hair early. Wwe Chris Jericho.
Speaker 1:Ayatollah of rock and roll.
Speaker 3:Are we getting the AEW Bizarro World Fat Chris Jericho as your pick? Because?
Speaker 2:that would be hilarious. We're getting two. Oh you, yeah, please, nick please, please, please.
Speaker 3:You have to, you have to now. Come on, no.
Speaker 1:Don't bully this corner, we can all sing the song.
Speaker 1:Okay, so there were a couple names I had in mind and I'm trying to just pick who I think now one of my options he may not even be in aw potentially a week from now when this comes out, and the other one is a guy on the rise that could become like it's becoming one of the bigger names and he's kind of a tweener. He's slowly being turned face, but he's still pretty much a a heel. Right now it's between the mjf and Swerve Strickland. Listen, there is one option and it's got to be MJF just because he's a dirtbag.
Speaker 1:He's their dirtbag, and I love Swerve Strickland. I was trying to find him a great spot in this movie, but I think he'll just be one of the guys that comes to help at the end and MJF's just going to be the heel on top of heels.
Speaker 2:Listen, there are two guys in AEW that all of us WWE guys are just waiting with arms wide open. We're like MJF Kenny Omega. This is where you belong, not Kenny. You're WWE stars.
Speaker 3:Not Kenny. I like Kenny Omega no.
Speaker 1:I'm okay, that's. My dichotomy is like don't care for the Young Bucks. Kenny's okay.
Speaker 2:We need to separate Kenny from the cancer that is the Young Bucks Listen he has surgery right now.
Speaker 1:He's recovering. He's having some time off. Who's your?
Speaker 2:other guy, aaron, just out of curiosity. I said two guys and he agreed with MJF, who do you think is the other guy?
Speaker 3:Well, mjf, I think they're just scrambling to find him enough money to keep him there, because he'll. He looks like he's going to be ready for Monday Night Raw, the day after Wrestlemania that's what I'm afraid of.
Speaker 1:I'm afraid I'm going to cast this movie and then a week later, my cast is going to be garbage hey.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure by the time this movie came out, Perry Saturn was in WWF actually he was, turns out.
Speaker 1:It says he was in WWF. Actually, he was actually, turns out. It says he was one of two men attacked. He left WCW before the movie was out. He was in WWF by January 2000. Part of the Radicals? So yeah, alright, guys. Well we're at the top. It's time to find our Jimmy King Now. I went with an actor.
Speaker 2:So did I. Hold on, though I went with an actor, but can we all just say that Oliver Platt is the most miscast? What the hell.
Speaker 3:He is.
Speaker 1:Like if you had given him, like a Mick Foley-style character, I could see that I appreciate that Oliver Platt commits. I will say that.
Speaker 2:I appreciate the legwork he puts into this movie, but why in the hell was Oliver Platt cast as a pro wrestler at the top?
Speaker 1:When Arnold Schwarzenegger and Stallone were too much money, I guess.
Speaker 3:I literally had to look at his credits at that time to see was he going through a hard time in the year 2000? Did he lose a bet or something? What the hell.
Speaker 2:He's making Oliver Platt and Simon Burch and Lake Placid.
Speaker 1:One of the bigger miscastings.
Speaker 2:I just wanted to get that off. We had to say it, it's a weird casting choice.
Speaker 1:Definitely for sure. So with that said, aaron, who do you have for your Jimmy King?
Speaker 3:I dug deep for this one and someone really impressed me in a movie franchise that I love to hate and I hate that. I love it and I believe that he could bring some goodness to this already abysmal movie, and I got Jason Momoa.
Speaker 1:Momoa. He was someone I thought of as we're in the same era, so I'm pretty sure we probably. Yeah, we're in the same era, so I'm pretty sure we probably were in the same area.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, I thought of Jason Momoa, cause I I couldn't think of anybody else who could play a wrestler who wasn't already a wrestler, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, oliver Platt didn't quite pull it off in 2000 and and a regular, and Tom Hardy's too short at this point in time. I mean AEW, he might be fine actually, but Corey, I like that. Jason Moe is one of my top two picks. I didn't go with him, but I can see it. He's charismatic. I can see him being the down-on-his-luck type of guy who comes back.
Speaker 3:His performance in Fast 10 was just what sold it for me. If he can bring that kind of energy to his wrestling character, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, we're on the same page, Aaron for sure. So we're getting. Where did they put him in the whole Samoan bloodline tree, though?
Speaker 3:He's just not part of it. I don't think he's part of it yet. I don't think he's part of it yet.
Speaker 1:He's like you're not part of the royal family. Get out of here. Jason Momoa, jimmy King.
Speaker 2:Oh man, that's good. I like it, though, but cory, who do you have? All right wf? Yeah, I brought an actor, okay, and I need a guy that can really play down on his luck, but I also need a guy that's in shape, or I think can at least get in some shape, right, right, I'm bringing a guy that I think could have, like he could sell that he was a big deal in the 80s, 90s and then just come into that end of his career.
Speaker 1:I'm bringing you bill freaking paxton interesting yeah, he's gonna have to get a little, a little, a little bigger, yeah, bigger I don't have to be huge.
Speaker 2:He could be sean michaels, like, as long as we get a little cut and put a little muscle on, okay, okay, I see, I see where you're going like okay, he's more the.
Speaker 1:He's the guy that was the perennial underdog for forever, like the david, to a lot of goliaths in the land of the giants and I don't want him to be the king, I'm giving him some other gimmick, okay.
Speaker 2:It's weird that they also went with an 80s gimmick. Yeah, in this movie they're like. Everyone else is looking all cool like remus studio's doing flips and baggy jinko camo and he's out there as the king.
Speaker 1:It's like they were going for like this kind of like history of wrestling idea, because when the movie starts it's showing photos of everybody and stuff and it's like they there are parts where they just want. It's like they were trying to get everything wrestling in its entirety and that was like their answer, because they also make him do that really cheesy rap in the middle of his promo. Yeah, and that was.
Speaker 3:That was not fun also, how did Jerry, how did Jerry Lawler never sue anybody for this?
Speaker 2:that's what I'm saying, like how did Jerry the King Lawler not sue the crap out of somebody? I did not think about that.
Speaker 1:That's a very strong point.
Speaker 2:You know, lawler's just suing everybody. Oh yeah, draw illustrations and stuff you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. This is where all my money's going, guys. This is where Tony Khan's going to ask his dad for about $20 million. He's going to get Chris Hemsworth to play this role.
Speaker 2:I mean his Hogan movie's not coming out, it's not coming out.
Speaker 1:So I'm getting Chris Hemsworth. He's shown he could be fun. He showed he could be funny. He's shown in like Endgame that he could be like the drunken, like has been type of character. So I think it's going to work well. Especially and logically in my head, it worked because it's like, well, he's from Australia, maybe him and Will Ospreay were tag team teammates, because we'll all spray from england if there's that connection. Uh, because that's part of the storyline. But uh, yeah, I think that he can have a lot of fun with it and I think he's big enough to fit in the aw world. So, yeah, that's, that's my. It's my cast for you, all right. Well, that's pretty much it. We're. We're here at the end. Uh, do we want to go through our cast really quick, all three of, or do we have enough time?
Speaker 2:I mean I'm good, you're good, I'm fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, if anything like like like ready to rumble, we were all ready to wrap this up, yeah, but I think I think we all found some pretty interesting picks for like our eras that we were in and promotions that we picked. I feel like everybody kind of was very on point and like was pretty accurate to what a movie would look like coming out from these studios or these wrestling promotions at the time. Do you guys agree with that?
Speaker 3:Oh, I agree, oh, totally yeah.
Speaker 1:So, in defense of AEW, I hope they get the ship because good wrestling makes good wrestling, but it's a little shaky right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because how many cartwheels go into a Canadian destroyer, Like what the hell?
Speaker 1:Aaron is definitely on the WWE tribal side of things.
Speaker 3:No, I don't like either. Actually, I'll go with WWE over AEW any day, but the WWE is like, like I said, I don't have to watch a Roman Reigns match because I know how it's going to end. I only have to watch him. I only have to watch it at WrestleMania to see if anything changes. You know, yup, yup, yup. And even then I'll probably just jump in and out, cause I don't have the the mental capacity for eight hour WrestleMania for two nights.
Speaker 1:No, I watch. I watch the pay-per-views and that's pretty much like I'll catch updates on social media and stuff. But I can't commit to daily, weekly television like that yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I left pro wrestling when CM Punk left in 2000,. But he's back, he's back. Well, the thing is, I and my thing is, when AEW came out a few years ago, I thought I was one of those people that's like, finally we're getting this other thing to WWE. And then you're in it and you're like, oh my gosh, this is just Nitro. There's too many people. This is just too crazy. They're trying way too hard. They're throwing everything.
Speaker 1:I was like no we got what we wanted, and what we wanted was bad, and I appreciate that you love it, Nick. I'm not going to bash anyone for watching it. There are things to love about it and I do think the overall product.
Speaker 2:There could be some improvement and some continuity, some long the long form storytelling's falling off a little bit but I'm I'm of the, of the, of the unpopular opinion that lucha underground was that should have been the future of pro wrestling I thought that was the greatest thing that happened wrestling in the last 20 it was pretty cool.
Speaker 2:It was pretty cool but all right, oh, that's ready to rumble um in three different versions. Three different versions In three different versions. Aw fans, please direct all of your hateful comments towards Aaron Powell. I just fed off of it. We hope you enjoyed this episode, aaron. You got anything you need to plug, anything you're doing. Yeah, what do you have to know?
Speaker 3:I've been a full-time photographer. Now you guys may have heard my young child running around the house the whole time too. I hope he wasn't too much of a distraction.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I'm pretty much full time we just assumed you were wrestling while doing the show.
Speaker 3:That's usually how it goes, man, when you got a toddler, you're just wrestling all day. And no, I've just been full time photography, still doing stand up every here, and there, there, and just you know, uh, enjoying being a dad awesome dude.
Speaker 1:That's great. Congrats on that thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Yeah, nick and I are still just doing this podcast. Yeah, pretty much podcast.
Speaker 3:I still listen and I'm like this is, this is the highlight of my wednesdays, right here we're still just wrecking people's favorite movies.
Speaker 1:That's all we do here.
Speaker 2:Hope you enjoyed this episode. Hope you are a wrestling fan if you made it this far, or that's probably a really awkward time. Thank you for listening, aaron. Thank you for joining us. We'll have you back soon. Hope you enjoyed Ready to Rumble in three different eras. Say goodnight, nick, goodnight.