Quantum Recast: Your Favorite Films, Recast In Different Years
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Quantum Recast: Your Favorite Films, Recast In Different Years
Saturday Night Live: 50 Shades of Fey
As we hit the 50th anniversary of "Saturday Night Live," we're peeling back the layers of this iconic show to see exactly why it has become a cultural cornerstone. This episode digs into the show's staying power, as Cory & Nick put together their All-Time Casts!
From the Blues Brothers to Wayne's World, some SNL sketches have made the leap to the big screen with roaring success, while others have stumbled along the way. Cory and Nick relive those film adaptations and daydream about which beloved characters could be next. As we journey through the show's history, we also turn the spotlight on SNL alumni like Eddie Murphy, Will Ferrell, and Kate McKinnon, who've taken their sketches and comedic genius beyond the show's stage into Hollywood's limelight.
Let’s not forget the silent MVPs of SNL—the "glue" who stitch the sketches together. With a mix of humor and nostalgia, we celebrate everything from the unforgettable digital shorts to the all-star cast members who've made us laugh through the years. Sit back as we raise a toast to 50 years of groundbreaking comedy, unforgettable sketches, and the comedic legends who continue to redefine SNL's legacy.
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Hosts:
Cory Williams (@thelionfire)
Nick Growall (@nickgrowall)
Co-Hosts (Season 6):
Aly Dale (@alydale55)
Ash Hurry (@filmexplorationah)
Cass Elliott (@take5cass)
Terran Sherwood (@terransherwood)
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Kristi Rothrock (@letzshake)
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Nick Growall
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Speaker 2:Saturday night it's Tuesday night or live from Nick's bedroom. It's.
Speaker 1:Quantum Recast.
Speaker 2:So yeah, hey, so welcome to another episode of Quantum Recast. Yeah, we could have had just shots of our hometown and then like a weird it's.
Speaker 1:Tuesday night in Oklahoma, and just pictures of us to a saxophone solo yeah, but we're not. I think Allie plays saxophone.
Speaker 2:We could have had her.
Speaker 1:We could have had her. What are we doing? We could call her. It's just freezing. It's just icy weather outside. It's just freezing cold outside. Allie, you got five minutes Get over here.
Speaker 2:So yeah, it would be no fun, but yeah, so this is Quantum Recast. If you clicked on this episode, we're actually going to talk about television.
Speaker 1:What's the? Some movies thrown in? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we always find a tie-in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we will talk movies, but we are celebrating the 50th anniversary of saturday night live that's right you know they just had the special two days ago on sunday night for some odd damn reason well, they wanted.
Speaker 1:You know, they just made it a wrestlemania weekend.
Speaker 2:I mean, I get some days when you have big things because nothing else is on and all they competed with was was an abysmal all-star game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, nobody's watching that anyway.
Speaker 2:I will watch the Saturday stuff. I'll watch the dunk contest.
Speaker 1:Well, that's all the good stuff. Yeah, because the game sucks. Now. The game's boring.
Speaker 2:What was it Like?
Speaker 1:30 minutes of basketball in a three hour, mr Beast and Kevin Hart just dancing around doing dumb stuff oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Kevin Hart apparently was just obnoxious live thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we, I watched the concert and then I watched the show, like and so it was.
Speaker 2:It was a good weekend. It was friday night was the snl concert, yeah, which was really cool. Yeah, then saturday was the good part of the nba all-star game. But just the the skill stuff and then sunday night was the 50th anniversary special. Yeah, which was like three hours.
Speaker 1:You did it well you know it was a good weekend. You chose well. You know if you knew how to play it, if you watch the all-star game. I'm sorry, we apologize not that we had anything to do with it, yeah, no, no, I mean that you made a decision and you chose wrong.
Speaker 2:That's true so, but, yeah, um, we wanted to uh talk saturday night live, um, because they did make movies. Um, you know, there are movies that spring yes from saturday night live and we'll talk about those, but mainly we want to talk about the show um it. The fact that it's gone on for 50 years is really impressive.
Speaker 1:It is kind of crazy. I mean, if you look at it like, if you think about it, like Saturday Night Live and you know soap operas and then wrestling, those are the three things that have probably lasted the longest on television and the Simpsons and the Simpsons Excuse me, they get thrown in there.
Speaker 2:And so, yeah, I mean it is interesting, you know, because I think the Simpsons is the longest animated show. Yeah, oh yeah, and I don't understand, because they have all these things. Like you know, wrestling says we're the longest episodic show, but I'm like WWE hasn't been around for 50 years.
Speaker 1:No, they haven't. Not on a weekly basis. No, not at all. So are they lying? I mean, it's been Spickman Corey, or is?
Speaker 2:it because Saturday is not prime time? I guess Because it's not just Monday through Friday is considered the prime time.
Speaker 1:I think that might be part of it. So.
Speaker 2:Saturday Night Live is just the longest we're on the weekend.
Speaker 1:Right, Like we're here when you should be out doing other stuff.
Speaker 2:But how damn impressive is that. Can we talk about that? You've got a show that's gone on for 50 years on Saturday night when most people are not at home watching TV. Right, that's kind of impressive it should have gotten canceled immediately.
Speaker 1:We say you're not at home, but once you get into your 30s and stuff. What are you really doing?
Speaker 2:on the weekends, it's true. You're like, oh gosh, it's 9.
Speaker 1:I'm going to ease up to the couch, get a drink of my choice of beverage and just watch some bunnies yeah.
Speaker 2:It is wild to me that, like that saturday night live has been like around for 50 years, considering it did choose one of the weirdest nights to have well, that was the whole thing.
Speaker 1:It was a dead spot.
Speaker 2:Well it's yeah, that's the thing. It's a dead spot because most people are out not watching tv. No, that's why like everything's on sunday nights you know, like the oscars and big events and wrestlemania and all this stuff chooses sund. They're like well, people are at home. Yeah, there's nothing else on TV.
Speaker 1:Exactly Because they have work the next day. Here's an excuse to watch TV. Like that was. It's become a cliche thing of like your parents would sit down and watch their favorite TV shows. Like there's all these CSI, firefighter, cop shows.
Speaker 2:They only exist because the boomers are still watching cable television, corey, you know, I called my parents on it the other day because I, like you know, I'll go to their house once a week for dinner and usually I don't know. This time of year we just came out of football season. We're usually there Sunday or Monday night, so usually football's on, okay, but the rest of the time it's kind of like nothing's on TV. But you'll see ads for things like 9-1, ncis.
Speaker 1:Bolivia Chicago Fire.
Speaker 2:I asked my parents do y'all watch any of this? Because my dad's in his 70s, my mom's in her 60s and they're like no, I'm like. Well, who watches them then? Because you're like the target audience. I was like, if y'all aren't doing it, who's doing it? Man? But yeah, but Saturday Night Live Came out October 11th 1975, which is impressive.
Speaker 1:It is, and you haven't seen the Saturday Night movie. Not that it's required viewing. I haven't watched it.
Speaker 2:Yet I was going to see if my mom wanted to watch it, because this is a weird thing that me and my mom share is a love of Saturday Night Live. She was a teenager, she was 15, when it came out.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:And so she. You know, when something's on for 50 years though, it's like you have eras and you have like you're in and out of it.
Speaker 1:Well, it's like wrestling again. Like yeah, there's a hot time and there's a dead time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and like I mean, like I've, I'm in a dead time of wrestling, I just can't watch it.
Speaker 1:Which is sad.
Speaker 2:I tried watching Royal Rumble recently and it was just kind of like oh, there we go, and so like it's not for me, it's for kids, and I get mad that they don't do what I want them to do. So that's the problem. And so they want to sell Jey Uso merch. I don't want it.
Speaker 1:All right, we've got to get back to mainstream, back to mainstream.
Speaker 2:But like you said, it is kind of like when something's on that long long, you you're like. I watched it during this time and then the eddie murphy years, the will farrell years, the tina fey years you know, and like I think people fall in and out of it and so um, and we're in a streaming age now and I think it's all on peacock yeah, I will turn it on and I will watch it and like um, and I'll just find random episodes and stuff. And yeah, there's good episodes, there's bad episodes um, but yeah, it did start in 1975.
Speaker 2:The original cast was uh, lorraine newman, okay, john belushi, jane curtain, uh, gilda radner, dan akroyd, garrett morris and chevy chase. So that's the original cast.
Speaker 1:Um, you probably recognize half those names, half of them because um they uh, half of them went on to a lot of bigger careers yes um, like namely chevy chase and dankroyd and Jane Curtin, gilda Radner or John Belushi like died young obviously yes, yeah and so, but he was just on the, not even the cusp, Like he was a big star.
Speaker 2:He was a huge deal. He was trying to break kind of into a more serious Hollywood.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:And so you know, but he died young. And so he probably would have been a bigger deal.
Speaker 1:Well, that's the thing. He had been such a big enough star that he had reached that point in his career where he was trying to break out of the shell of being the funny, fat, drunk guy.
Speaker 2:And you know it's interesting when you talk about Saturday Night Live because in a weird way it's kind of like this revolving door of like, if you want to be like a comedian yeah or a comedic actor or work in comedy.
Speaker 1:It's like you can go here, but you but your kind of goal is to transcend it, right at some point yeah you're kind of like I need to move on it's like you're a stand-up comedian or like you do some writing or something and then you get on the show and then, yeah, your goal is to try to become bigger than the show apparently it's really rare to be fired from snl like I can only think of like.
Speaker 2:I mean, obviously, like Norm Macdonald was famously fired for making OJ Simpson jokes on Weekend Update and I think like there's guys like Chris Parnell and stuff that like was like a weird budgetary thing, like during slow. I guess or like you know tight times, but I guess for the most part it's like you most people, most people leave on their own because they want to do something different, or someone like Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 1:that's just like. This isn't for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that you know who's, I think, ranked the worst cast member of all time by Rolling Stone magazine, which it was like that was 10 years ago that they did it. I don't know if they did an updated one, but I think for the 40th anniversary. They ranked him last.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he apparently admitted to having a miserable time on Saturday Night Live due to his lack of experience in improv comedy, so he had come from the film background, but he just struggled to have any chemistry with cast members.
Speaker 2:I believe it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And that was so. Have you watched anything from that era I? Haven't I have I learned Randy Quaid was a cast member.
Speaker 1:I saw that, yeah.
Speaker 2:Because I went to that year and was like I'm gonna watch some of this yeah and like it's actually hard to find robert. Robert jr wasn't like, uh, what they called like a rep, it was like a repertory, yeah, repertory. He was like a featured yeah, he like, wasn't like in a lot yeah, maybe that's because he sucked, probably at improv comedy.
Speaker 1:Well, you get a lot of people that like are fighting to get on more screen time all the time. They're like I'm not getting enough from like my stuff is getting picked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have repertory players and featured players yeah, so like repertory means like you're one of the primary individuals that's going to be, you're a key player.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't think that's the case, because I don't know these names of the current cast ashley padilla, emily waki, emilio joaquin and jane wickline.
Speaker 2:They're not well, they're featured, that means they don't show up a ton. Yeah, you know, jane wickline was on there recently and she was really funny like I mean I've seen some of their stuff, trying to recognize her um she did like a weekend update, like song or a song weekend update.
Speaker 1:That was pretty funny oh okay, yeah, it's like I recognize her and so like.
Speaker 2:She's a featured player, and featured means like you're just kind of show up every once in a while kind of like you're a test cast member. It's like, hey, we have spots okay you're not going to be like necessarily have a lot written for you.
Speaker 1:You're hourly, you're not salary. Yeah, kind of thing, okay.
Speaker 2:And so it feels like RDJ was probably a featured player his season because I have gone back and watched it and it's kind of hard to find his stuff. It's a little hard to find Anthony Michael Hall in a lot of that era too.
Speaker 1:Again, didn't know he was on the show. Yeah, that same year both kind of bounced out I kind of want to watch a movie about that year of snl, like I need the sequel to saturday night of where it's like they're in the doldrums and they're just pulling all these like randoms that don't really belong or they're not prominent you can watch johnny be good, that's, they're both in that movie.
Speaker 1:Okay, it's a football movie, that's right. That's right. The hall plays against type. It plays a star quarterback and down he's like a wide receiver or something.
Speaker 2:It's a. It's a pretty fun movie, but uh no, it is weird because, like the 80s are kind of considered this weird, like atrocious time for snl well, you think about it until the acroyd murray, eddie murphy, chevy chase. They're all in movies in the 80s eddie murphy is 80 to 84 but apparently he carried snl on his shoulders from 80 to 84 because Because I haven't watched a lot of those years, the older SNL material.
Speaker 1:But when he came back for I guess their 40th or 45th and he finally came into public again, that's what everybody's like he saved SNL, he was the show and you're like, yeah, I've seen the Gumby skid, the Mr Robinson and stuff.
Speaker 2:So it's like, if that'sl went like, can we survive losing the last of our original cast?
Speaker 1:you know, and so it'd be like jordan leaving and not having kobe bryant and shaquille o'neal and tim duncan right there and iverson waiting yeah, because it's like I think there might be one overlapping season of Murray and Murphy, you know, but that would have been like.
Speaker 2:I think that would have been like ones last year, another first year like 80. But like because I mean a lot of those dudes only did a short amount of time. Murray was only on there like three years.
Speaker 1:Because that's kind of the thing, like like, when I think about these big names the Bill Murray's, the Eddie Murphy's you wonder like well, they didn't seem to do snl, you know, yeah, because you like look at and you're like well, I know them from their movies more. Like he he was also murray joined in the second season in 77 and until departing the show 1980 so really 80 is murphy's first.
Speaker 1:Yeah so it's kind of crazy that I mean, but that's kind of the thing you become a big you. Snl is really just a chance for these comedians to showcase their personality and their abilities. So like, if you're hot, like you're going to get a check or an offer for a movie, probably pretty quickly.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, like Saturday Night Live, it's very much a zeitgeisty thing. It seems like perfect thing, perfect time.
Speaker 1:You know it's 1975. And weirdly, Nework city in 1975 was a cesspool bankrupt crime ridden right and it's wild that this thing happened there. That said like hey, move here.
Speaker 2:And like try to be a part of this thing, you know, but like it's it's, it's wild because it just felt like it was so counterculture in a time where you really needed like counterculture. Counterculture was just kind of the thing I mean the 60s are dead, but like, there's just this group of like avant-garde type of things that like survived it. You know, you had Cream Magazine, you had Rolling Stone Magazine still going, and Saturday Night Live is kind of like the visual version of both of those things.
Speaker 1:Sure and like between it and like Second City in Chicago, like, and I think didn't some people from Second City come over to SNL A lot?
Speaker 2:of people from Second City and the Groundlings, which is the Groundlings, canada. I'm not sure that was SCCTV.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, scctv was.
Speaker 2:Canadian Groundlings might have been like LA or something. You know. There was all these like improv pockets, you know and then I think SNL kind of like. I hate to keep going back to wrestling, but they became the WWE.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:They said like, okay, we're just going to pull from all the territories and we're going to be the main thing you know, because I mean they're live, and they're in New York City.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like they're on network television. The Groundlings did start in Los Angeles, so that's so you have Second City, Chicago.
Speaker 2:You have SCTV or whatever in. Canada and because that's like where Moranis and like John Candy and those guys.
Speaker 1:Second City Television is what it's called, so it wasn't. So it's not Second City, but it's not Chicago.
Speaker 2:Oh, maybe SCTV was Chicago, I don't know, but I know what you're talking about, because, like Maybe just a lot of Canadians went down to Chicago.
Speaker 1:Well, no Commonly short to SCTV. Canadian Television Sketch Show.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Spaced in Toronto, offshoot from Toronto's Second City Troop. Okay, so Second City might have just had multiple places, yeah it moved to American TV, where it aired on NBC from 81 to 83.
Speaker 2:Oh, so Canadians invaded. So Saturday Night Live, that's a competition, that's right. A little WCW In a time where Saturday Night Live was probably in the doldrums a little bit.
Speaker 1:It probably was just a bit.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I read a book by a guy named nick de similian, okay, called wild and crazy guys, a few years ago and it is kind of like this oral history.
Speaker 2:I mean it's not really necessarily interviews, but like it is kind of like chronicling like that era of comedian from like chase and murray and steve martin to eddie murphy and kind of like and belushi and kind of follows their careers. And it starts a lot with like obviously they were saturday night live, but it talks a lot about how most of those guys you get to a point where you're like I don't want to just be this and I want to be something bigger and it's. It's wild how many of them said I'm gonna go try drama yeah, yeah you know, like belushi tried it murray, murray tried it and almost quit acting.
Speaker 2:See martin tried it, chase tried it, they all tried it and then, eventually, the whole nature of the book is well, they came back around to comedy, because that's what they are well, it's also like it's.
Speaker 1:I think the problem is you're on tv on a weekly basis or half a year basis and then you are known as this comedian. Like people just know you as you're the funny guy, yeah, the funny thing. So it's really hard to break that mold. I go no, no, I can do like. I mean adam sandler kind of did it you know punch truck love. Uh, uncut gems like he's shown like oh, I think.
Speaker 1:But I think in the modern times we're much more open to that concept. I think back then, even like it was just like no, you're the funny guy, what are you? What are you doing?
Speaker 2:like yeah, no, and I think that's true and I mean it's probably just, uh, maybe a more social grasp of mental health that you yeah it's hard to be the funny guy all the time that's a burden, um and so, but like, uh, I I do think it's interesting that that was kind of a recurring theme, um, with a lot of them.
Speaker 2:You know that like hey, I want to go try, you know, to be taken seriously, and it's kind of like almost you're on saturday night live until you resent it well, I mean think about the turnaround.
Speaker 1:Like they don't write these things over the summer, they, they. It's a crazy, it's like south park they've got one week to figure this out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're like, well, uh 52 weeks a year by the way he's hosting. So we got to find skits that work for keanu and he has to be in keanu, has to be down for the skit, yeah and it's, and it's kind of wild because, like I didn't realize until like I, obviously because of this, they like put out like a four part documentary on Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:On Peacock as well and, like the first episode, is just about like the five minute audition. Like that's apparently what you get an audition and you have five minutes. Lorne Michaels is one of them, and then there's like two other people.
Speaker 2:Some producers or something, yeah, and you just have five minutes like, hey, you're not gonna be on the show, but like you can write like spade. Uh, mulaney, a lot of those dudes audition to be on the show and then they're like, well, you can write, and then if you do enough time writing, you might work your way up to the cast or something it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1:Like uh tanner brought up a lot about working for smosh and that kind of feels the same way like he. He worked in from the crew side of things as assistant director and was slowly trying to just naturally, without forcing it, be like hey, I I went to school for acting, I've done this, and he like offered to like help coach some of these like the talent on their camera because they're not trained actors.
Speaker 2:They're just people that got got into video games and streaming right and you know they're pretty so it's, it's. It's like a, that's like the old school, equivalent to what they were doing, at least even 10 years ago, which was like just trying to get on youtube's major platforms and so I mean it's wild that you have this thing that's still going and I mean I mean I think it's always been able to repackage itself and I think maybe that's the beauty of snl is that it?
Speaker 1:does have a revolving door that these people outgrow it that is kind of the birth and death is kind of in the cycle of. It is kind of good for that show because it's eras you have your eras Well, like wrestling.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You get a guy that stays there too long and stays on top too long. I'm Coke, oh, cogan, and then it's boring.
Speaker 2:It's boring and you know and you need like these different eras, and I think that way it always seems a little new, and so I think that's something that's really cool about it, but also it's constantly culturally relevant as well. Obviously, it attacks politics all the time it just makes fun of whatever's happening because it's a weekly show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a left-leaning show but, like you had talked about earlier, it does its job sometimes also. I mean it made fun of.
Speaker 2:Biden Dana Car incredible joe biden yeah, for the last few years and he was a recurring character and it was great and it made fun of them but, I mean, that's the thing, like they're left leaning but it took shots at everything yeah, because that's what it's supposed to.
Speaker 1:It's a bit like like south park's, a similar thing, like they have a short turnaround when they were doing like their full seasons and it would be very topical and very when.
Speaker 2:It was good, it was great yeah, and so and I mean, and so I it's wild like so I guess, like nick, just to ask you, did you, did you grow up watching this, or is this it?
Speaker 1:was more for me. It was more like I knew what it was. I knew it existed and, yeah, I was trying to think about this earlier. I guess in middle school, high school, it was still kind of a thing I wasn't post to watch, maybe. Or there was never like a moment where I was watching it and mom and dad came in, was like turn off this crap or something. But it was. It was always like on and I would watch it.
Speaker 1:I remember I remember watching it's, catching it sometimes in high school and being like and kind of slowly getting pulled in then, but that was probably all the same time I was watching, like when Anchorman came out or I was watching. You know, billy Madison and Happyilmore were rerunning on tbs and stuff you were aware of a lot of people that came from yes, I was very aware of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure and I think, like you kind of nailed it earlier when you said it's, it's weirdly almost a show for people past their 30s kind of because it's like because as a teenager, it was hard to like watch it because you're like, well, I can't be 17 or 18 and be like guys, I can't hang out because I have to be home and watch saturday night live because we didn't grow up in streaming, or unless you're just a kid that doesn't get to go out.
Speaker 1:If you missed it, you missed it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true, wild yeah you know and so like, and I remember when the dvds were coming out I started buying them because I was like I want to watch these and stuff like that. But like I remember being on a lot in my house because my mom was a fan, you know, but again it came on late. So even on a Saturday night I may not have just been able to stay awake for it, but I think for me what's weird is it's like my sister's generation, gen X, really took to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely that's the thing Watching the concert, you really can tell what eras really clicked, because it seems to also coincide with the music. Because the 90s very clearly represented.
Speaker 2:And all Gen x has this music yeah, all the movies blue dude, I just recently watched singles. Have you seen singles? Like matt dylan and uh, no, no it sucks so bad and it's like one of the most culturally reality bites.
Speaker 1:Sucks ass like gen x movies are so depressing they're trying to do like the, the, the breakfast club thing Kind of, but they're like but we're 20-somethings and we are cynical and hate everything and it's just like I hate those movies.
Speaker 2:It's a little joy, a little hope going on in there. The best Gen X movie is about boomers and it's called Days of Confused. But Gen X has music.
Speaker 1:Obviously they had Nirvana.
Speaker 2:They had Grunge, they had this massively impactful thing, you know, and obviously, indie, indie music kind of came with Gen X you know as much as Grunge gets all the credit indie music is this thing that, like Gen X, latched onto, and so Insider Interlive is that it's Rolling Stone magazine on TV, and so it is kind of like pretentious and hipster when it comes to the music stuff.
Speaker 1:And so I remember my sister and her boyfriend watching it constantly interesting, so I saw it a lot with them. Yeah, I feel like, if you get into it, like in a high school, like, like I could see it becoming a thing, like, but but really like college age and now I feel like is more the vibe because and even now like I feel like I feel like more so because of the advent of streaming and TikTok and stuff. Things are like YouTube it's getting the reposting, all the skits that are happening.
Speaker 1:Oh you missed it. Hey, there's this really funny thing Jimmy Fallon did. There's this crazy thing that Pedro Pascal did when he was on the show, like now it's getting passed around more. So I think it's more accessible to younger generations Because, like you said, it's like just because it's Saturday Night Live, it doesn't mean you have to watch it then, like most programming yeah now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think you will find. And obviously I think now on sunday, monday, we see the skits, like if a skit really hits, we're gonna find out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like the beavis and butthead with ryan gosling just went viral yeah, and so it shows that, like saturday, life still has this weird audience where it just things hit and they'll go I think it's done the best job of adjusting to the times and it's also built to do that and was able to capitalize on the shorter the forms we got. Because, yeah, you, just they, I mean the new episode will drop and then a couple hours later they're already uploading the clips onto tiktok, onto youtube and stuff for you to watch and share with your friends. Like it's not hard to get access to it, whereas other tv shows or sports, like sometimes you're like where's this clip? I can't find it. And then they're already like no, no, here it is. Take it, take it, share with your friends, share with your family. Who cares?
Speaker 2:yeah, and so I did like in. So it's wild. I think like it's kind of weird. As a millennial it's hard to like because we talk obviously a lot about being millennials on here and it's like starting to like weirdly should have passed us by it should have, but it we got.
Speaker 1:just so my friends all loved it was the Adam Sandler era.
Speaker 2:And see, that's what, like my sister in Gen X, that would have been when I saw it a lot, was that 90? To? 95 era Chris Farley, sandler, chris Rock showing up there, but I'll say this I think millennials like I think we claim that cast because we liked the movies that cast made. I think that's my point.
Speaker 1:We didn't see the episodes so much as we saw the movies Other than man Down by the River. The things they were quoting were from Billy Madison, happy Gilmore, waterboy, coneheads, night of the Roxberries. It was not the shows or the skits they were based on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean again, I saw a lot of it, but of course I was at an age where a lot of it flew past me you know, and it wasn't until I got older that I started kind of re-watching a lot of that stuff and thinking, all right, this is funny and I get it for the time and whatever and like, but weirdly, millennials also, we kind of claimed the will ferrell snl it was, yeah, it was our, it was that was our like it's it's because honestly it's ours.
Speaker 2:Yeah him, tina fey kristen, that's technically ours. Because we hijack a lot from Gen X. Yeah, we do, that's what millennials do they're like you didn't want the 80s, we'll take it, we got it, don't worry. We'll take it, y'all just wanted.
Speaker 1:Nirvana, we'll take the 80s.
Speaker 2:And so, but it is wild and just aware of it, it's the Beatles. It's like whether you like it or not or whether you ever engage with it, you're just aware that it's there and that it's this massive thing.
Speaker 1:Like wrestling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like wrestling, but I think SNL might be more culturally impactful than wrestling.
Speaker 1:Wrestling has yet to figure out how to be topical without being cheesy or bad. It was huge in the 90s, man.
Speaker 2:That was more of just middle schoolers having two shows to watch on monday nights and most of it now, when you go back and watch it, it's just garbage television and so, um, but like uh, so I think this is where we probably need to talk about the movies. Okay, so when we talk about the movies of snl, um, we're, there's two, there's two trains of thoughts for with snl and movies, the movies that are adjacent, I think, which is your Billy Madison's, your Happy Gilmore's, your Tommy.
Speaker 1:Boy's, your Anchorman's, your Bridesmaid's Hot Rod.
Speaker 2:Because there's cast members that transcended SNL, obviously, which is sort of rare. I mean, I would say like in terms of becoming an A-list actor, that's more rare than anything else. You do have your household names. You have your Sandlers and your Will Ferrells, you have your Chris Rocks and things like that.
Speaker 1:And so Tina Fey.
Speaker 2:But then there's also, just like for every one of them, there's five other cast members that didn't really transcend it, didn't find it. They might have found character work or they were cameos in those movies, but like there's actually snl movies, based on skits, so you want the run, give me the rundown so they were so, because there's actually not that many.
Speaker 1:I thought there was more there's not like we were starting to put together like, oh, let's get a top five list, and I was like cory, there's only so many and and there's only so many good ones. So you got the blues brothers in 1980, yeah, and then it. Then it's not until Wayne's World in 92. Coneheads, wayne's World 2, it's Pat, which I don't. I've never heard of it.
Speaker 2:Probably not going to age. Well, no.
Speaker 1:Stuart Saves His Family. Harold Ramis wrote it or directed it. Yeah, blues Brothers 2000,. A Night at the Roxbury in 98, superstar Ladies' man and MacGruber.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man Are most Superstar Ladies' man and MacGruber yeah, man are most of those not good.
Speaker 1:The yeah the worldwide box office. The best one it looks like was Blues Brothers and Wayne's World. Blues Brothers got 115 worldwide. Wayne's World got 183 million worldwide.
Speaker 2:And so like, but like these are movies based off skits, right? Or like they came from the show. Yes, you know what I'm saying. Like, and so it's wild, because you know, if you watch the 50th anniversary um episode snl which, if you have peacock, go back and watch it it's incredible, it's great, it's a great time and it's and if you've never watched snl, it'll just be a good three hour yeah crash course in what it was it's a lot and so, um, their in memoriam section was, I thought, the most brilliant thing they did, because it's like you're like all right, they're about to show this really touching thing about all the actors who have passed, which there is kind of an snl curse.
Speaker 2:I think there's been eight cast members that have died before the age of 60. Oh, um, you know, gilda radner went by cancer. Shan hooks went by cancer. Uh, phil hartman was murdered. Uh, john belushi overdosed wild.
Speaker 1:Every time.
Speaker 2:I remember, every time he was just like oh my gosh, he did like phil hartman was murdered by his wife, that's insane um, that is absolutely insane, you know, and so there's like there's a lot that died um charlie rocket, uh, committed suicide. Um, and if you don't know who charlie rocket is, he's the dad from hocus pocus.
Speaker 2:Okay he was a cast member on snl and so um, also the tallest cast member of snl. I just found out in research. I'm like, oh, that's a good, hey, that's interesting. But the immemorium didn't actually honor any of them, they just honored all the horrible. Like antiquated should get canceled for things, because if you're something that's 50 years old, you're gonna have stuff.
Speaker 2:You had bad jokes at one time. You know, racist, your stereotypes, misogynistic, whatever. And so they poked fun at the fact that they're so old that they used to have a lot of really questionable. I like that. Tom hanks came out and actually flipped it on the viewer and said maybe you're the one who should get cancer right, you laughed at these jokes maybe, maybe it's you, but it's interesting because everyone referenced that pat was not in it, because pat's a character that probably doesn't age. Well, pat was a character Even beyond all that.
Speaker 2:It was played by one of the female cast members and the joke was Pat is so androgynous no one knew their gender. You didn't know if it was a male or a female Interesting, and so it was a lot of hilarious skits, because it's just people trying to figure it out, okay, and they made a movie called it's Pat.
Speaker 1:It's.
Speaker 2:Pat, and so, and that's the thing, it's Pat, not he's Pat or she's Pat 1994., who was?
Speaker 1:the actress Julia Sweeney.
Speaker 2:Julia Sweeney, that's Pat. Yeah, she was good too, but so that was one of them.
Speaker 1:Obviously, stuart was did you ever see the stewart smallley sketches? The only stewart I know is isn't that from?
Speaker 2:uh, get away from me like, look what I can do now stewart was like the guy, like he was a recurring uh snl skit that would look in the mirror and say you're, you know, like you're good you're capable, everybody loves you he was one of the like, a motivational kind of it was a toned down matt foley.
Speaker 1:He was a motivational kind of like Al Franken, yeah, al Franken.
Speaker 2:And so it's just funny that. It's funny to me what they chose to make movies out of, sure, and all the things they chose not to make movies out of. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Every time now, because we're kind of, I feel like getting into a good era of SNL again.
Speaker 2:Oh we are.
Speaker 1:I'm seeing a bunch of characters where I'm going. Okay, that could be a character or or stars. I'm like they could break out. They could break out, um, is it domingo, the, the one that shows up and sings like it breaks up the weddings and stuff?
Speaker 2:yes, they did a domingo sketch for the 50th um, and it's funny, but, like like, there's a lot of recurring characters like debbie downer debbie by rachel dratch never had what's one of my favorite favorites.
Speaker 1:But how do you make a movie about Debbie Downer? I don't know. How do you make a?
Speaker 2:movie about Pat and Stuart Smalley. Clearly we learned you can't do that I mean.
Speaker 1:That's the thing, yeah.
Speaker 2:Debbie Downer's one of my favorite characters in SNL ever, and only Rachel Dratch could play Debbie Downer.
Speaker 1:You cannot redo it.
Speaker 2:No, you Foley the motivational speaker. I mean like it's just, there's so many, there's nobody that can do that. Church Lady, how did we not get a Bill Sworky or Sworsky in the Chicago Superfans movie? I don't. How do you not have a?
Speaker 1:Da Bears or Da Bulls movie. I mean that's fair, like you could have had a whole movie based around them, hoping the Bears win like the.
Speaker 2:Super Bowl or something, anything, it's just right there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I think the Domingo one has some legs, Because like it could just again, you could just even put Sabrina Carpenter in. It's like him trying to win her heart or something. Yeah, I mean, he's pretty likable, A likable actor, and stuff too.
Speaker 2:To me like, okay, this is weird. There's something about Kate McKinnon that I don't love, but she's one of my favorites. She's a star and the Colleen Rafferty sketches are hilarious to me the Colleen, Rafferty Colleen. She sits with her legs open, smoking and she does her alien abductions, and she just has an endless amount of euphemisms for her vagina and yes, and it's just she plays it straight every time and she hasn't really found anything.
Speaker 1:She hasn't found the, the thing that's like we crucified her for making a ghostbusters movie.
Speaker 2:That's true, we're like we did. She was the best part of that too, though like she understood the assignment.
Speaker 1:Like oh, you want me to be weird and nerdy like I normally am, got it I don't know how we didn't have a church lady movie.
Speaker 2:You know it's church. You know it's a touchy subject, I guess uh I don't know how and I don't know how we didn't have, like, the delicious dish hosts. They're hilarious and so, uh, one of my favorite recurring characters for the last just like 10 years is and I think they did it at the 50th was, uh, the drunk girl at a party you wish you hadn't started talking to oh and that's cecily strong does that?
Speaker 1:character and it's hilarious every time well, just looking at even some of the list of things I I was writing down, like why didn't we have a sarah palin movie?
Speaker 2:oh, with tina fey, yeah with tina, yeah, that would have been good, or?
Speaker 1:even uh, david s, pumpkins, tom hanks. Yeah, like you could have done something with that and ran with it.
Speaker 2:It's just wild that like they landed on pat stewart in the ladies man. Yeah, and mcgruber, you know clearly that run was like, not like the best, like not before mcgruber, like that run of ladies man and all that post, coneheads and wayne's world yeah, you're just wondering if they just chose wrong if they just chose badly with some of these recurring I feel like that's, that's the thing I mean.
Speaker 1:It's you could even have done a californians movie, even if it's not your favorite, like there's.
Speaker 2:So there's a world that's already been built there and I've almost wondered, like how much like it's lauren really doesn't want to do movies maybe but, like some cast members, like come on, man, you owe me.
Speaker 1:Well, he's like oh well, the half-assed research I did before we started the episode. It just seems like there there's always a timing thing, but also like working with movie producers and getting the story right, that that the writers like might want to get versus what the studio wants and it's hard to write a movie based on people that are on screen for five minutes at most you know it's like there's not really a backstory to a lot of these, you know, and so I think it's it's it's wild but, yeah, it's wild because there is, like this entire universe of these like snl adjacent movies yes, there's
Speaker 1:only eight or whatever, and if you really look at it, it's pretty much every major comedy that has happened since the start of snl. I mean, you go back to blues brothers and animal house and you come forward with caddyshack, groundhog day and, uh, you know the, the national lampoon movies, ghostbusters and austin powers. You know wayne's world again, like it's just in the will ferrell run. All of it's built on the back of their success from SNL. It's kind of crazy. Even Eddie Murphy's run.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh yeah.
Speaker 1:You go to Beverly Hills Cop and he becomes a multifaceted superstar of the 80s that's probably only eclipsed by Michael Jackson at that point in time.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to think it's going to be him or will ferrell.
Speaker 1:In terms of who transcended, the most snl the most, because even sandler's like I think you almost have to look at it like the way you people try to look at, like the goats of basketball is like can you really compare them or you can you just only look at them as like the eras that they were in?
Speaker 2:yeah, and I mean, but I'm just saying like, in terms of transcending, it just seems like eddie murphy and will ferrell became the two biggest stars and then bill murray yeah, and bill murray, yes, that's true. I think like bill murray weirdly just had like a delay yeah I'm leaving snl to ghostbusters to like embracing who he was right, you know but like um, but I don't know, man, it's just, it's just wild.
Speaker 2:And then, like it's hard not to like, put mike myers in there. It's just, mike myers is just his weird genius he, he had a.
Speaker 1:He had a small but significant like the austin powers run that he had. Humongous, like everybody knew about it. Shrek, shrek, he's shrek, he's freaking shrek like you forget about. You forget about it, but he's Shrek, he's.
Speaker 2:Shrek, but Shrek was being developed by Chris Farley.
Speaker 1:It was yeah, he had been recording audio for it. Voice over work.
Speaker 2:But like Mike Myers is just the Dan Aykroyd of the 80s 90s. It's like the weird comedic genius that was almost just as good at writing as he was being funny. Sure being funny, sure, and so um, what's weird, is that so?
Speaker 1:keenan thompson. Yeah, I'm, we're transitioning to that, go on, okay.
Speaker 2:He born pretty much inbred to be a snl cast you realize he has spent his entire life in sketch comedy.
Speaker 1:Yes, and he's perfectly content at it. He's chose. No signs of stopping. No, I would argue his run as like he was a movie star first, almost like he got on he was on all that, all that.
Speaker 2:He was on a kid version of saturday night live and he blew up like he did it, he fast-tracked it, he did all that.
Speaker 1:He. Then he did uh, good burger, he did all of those movies back then and then start snl and then I think the only thing he really did beyond that was fat albert, and that just didn't really take off. He had like a keenan thompson show keenan and kell.
Speaker 2:yeah, right, yeah, where it was a show. It's weird to think that this guy spent most of his life doing sketch comedy.
Speaker 1:But he just reversed it kind of. He almost was like I did the movie stuff.
Speaker 2:It's almost like he wanted to. His goal was to just be on SNL.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, he's like well.
Speaker 2:I'll do this movie until they hire me.
Speaker 1:I mean, you wonder, kind of like wait around for a job popping up.
Speaker 2:And then he's just like I'd rather. I liked all that. I'm going to go to the adult version of all that.
Speaker 1:Right yeah.
Speaker 2:You know. Ok, so that brings me to. I want to talk about the top five longest serving cast members. Ok so people know now there's a five way tie for fifth place, which is 11 seasons, and that's Kate McKinnon, michael Che, al Franken, cecily Strong and fred armisen they all had 11 seasons.
Speaker 1:I would argue kate's the biggest star out of all of them?
Speaker 2:yeah, probably al franken was a big deal in the 80s and shea, he's.
Speaker 1:I guess he's one of the head writers now probably. But he's just, he does the.
Speaker 2:He only does the weekend I think he only does the weekend update and he's incredible at it yeah, him, and him and colin yost are pretty.
Speaker 1:They're pretty really good yeah, and so um uh no, yeah, yost, yost and shay are the head writers as as of two years ago that brings us to fourth place, which is colin yost.
Speaker 2:Okay, at 12 makes sense yeah, not.
Speaker 1:Not hard to be on the show long when you're just the weekend update guy and the writer so, uh, and then seth myers, 13 seasons okay, okay daryl hammond was 14 seasons got it and then keenan thompson, 22 seasons that's wild 20.
Speaker 2:He's like john stockton with the assist record.
Speaker 1:It's just second place is really far behind and there's highly unlikely that anyone's going to be content for 20 plus years to just just doing snl, but also to stay on snl like that's the thing like we talk about, as if it's like, yeah, just stay put, it's easy, right, ride those coattails, but it's like he's. He's done his job as being like the new glue man, yeah, and like the straight man. Every sketch you you watch and you he's usually in it, yeah, and every big one to an extent like, and he's usually the guy in the background reacting, or he's just like being the guy, I mean like being the audience avatar, just being like.
Speaker 2:I can't believe that just happened yeah, it's great and I love it. And I think keenan. I think keenan thompson's great, but I think he's a unicorn. I do think, because again michael che and colin yoster on that list, but again they're mostly the writers right they're.
Speaker 1:They're not doing every sketch like they're mainly the two head writers like they're.
Speaker 2:Just they're like the writers and we know how to do the weekend update type of thing, and so it's, I, it's. I don't think you're going to find another Kenan Thompson, because as a creative, you know how bored you get doing something.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:But again, SNL is at least different every week.
Speaker 1:True, you know yeah.
Speaker 2:And so there's going to be fun. But it's when you look at things like the cast of Friends or the Big Bang Theory and you're like how much money were they making? Why did somebody quit? That's stupid. And you're like, well, because they got bored playing Sh Sheldon Cooper for 10 years, you know.
Speaker 1:Kenan makes me wonder just why Kel Mitchell just isn't on SNL. They did the Good Burger skit a couple years ago and you're just like this is great. Let's just do this every once a year.
Speaker 2:Just bring Kel back once a year to do a skit.
Speaker 1:I bet that has more to do with Kel not wanting to do it. Well, apparently, when I was reading about it, yeah, it's like well, he also kind of went on his own path for a bit. But they also had talked about like wanting to not work together as much because they wanted to be individuals rather than just being keenan and kell yeah, which makes sense.
Speaker 2:Like drake and josh. Yeah, you know, they didn't. Just. You know, drake also became a train wreck, right yeah?
Speaker 1:yeah, as far as we know, keenan and kill are cool.
Speaker 2:They're both fine yeah so, but it it. It's interesting to think, like someone's been doing this for 22 years, like they can retire apparently retirement from snl.
Speaker 1:Apparently kill lost his snl audition to keenan.
Speaker 2:Oh no, that's wild they like go into keenan's audition on the audition episode of the documentary, because apparently he went way longer than five minutes, oh and it's funny watching them like watch their own video and they're like, oh, it's so bad and so okay. So, nick, let's talk skits, sketches. Do you have a favorite SNL skit or sketch?
Speaker 1:My favorite is probably just personal favorite is probably Papyrus the.
Speaker 2:Ryan Gosling skit. So that's like a digital short. It's a digital short.
Speaker 1:It's not live, but it's just as as as like the writing type. As someone who messes with photoshop and it just hits you and it hits, it just hits, and gosling's performance of it just hits so well like I'll watch it, I'll. It's one I will pull up every once in a while when I'm when I'm either when I'm looking at fonts and I see papyrus pop up, or I'm just thinking somebody, I see it in the wild and I just like, let me watch that again real quick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you walk past enough massage parlors or anything like that someone's doing Papyrus. Yes, you know, and so.
Speaker 1:Or the new Avatar coming out. It got a sequel Go to an inauthentic Chinese restaurant. Right, yes, they're like Papyrus or India. Yeah, curry, food and stuff.
Speaker 2:And so that's a good one, and I think we should talk about the fact that digital shorts are this pretty cool modern thing for the host.
Speaker 1:Yes, Because it's like you're an actor Right and like hey, we can film this during the week. And it can be, and you can like work with it, yeah, and it's not.
Speaker 2:You don't have to be necessarily live improv.
Speaker 1:Attached to it.
Speaker 2:We can good, you know and so, um, I think those are pretty good um do you have a favorite. I mean like just. I mean like you have to mention things like frozen caveman lawyer you have to mention, like the chippendale sketch, which apparently is like what really broke chris farley okay, it was the chippendale sketch with swayze okay, you know, if you've ever seen that one, yeah yeah, richard Pryor, chevy Chase had the word association in the first season that was big Cowbell may be the most well-known.
Speaker 1:Probably the most well-known Like um skit, but more recently like the Black Jeopardy, especially the one when Tom Hanks the first one, tom Hanks recurring sketch on Saturday Night. Live. I just love that they switched it up.
Speaker 2:I do love that. They switched it to Black Jeopardy and it's Keenan Thompson now, but Will Ferrell doing Alec Trebek was the greatest thing during that era, and then Burt Reynolds and you also had Sean Connery was his like nemesis.
Speaker 1:But Will Ferrell played it so straight and just so, just a man writhing inside.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I turned ferguson. I'll take the rapist like that's therapist it was so good.
Speaker 1:I love jeopardy so much um uh, but I'll I do think that the, the digital sketches, is what brought millennials into yeah, and it's because you've got like you've got andy samberg deserves a lot of credit the lonely island is definitely if, if it's not, will ferrell them, it's definitely andy samberg and his crew. The Lonely. Island that got us into. Snl Because you've got the Dear Sister sketch where they just keep shooting each other at the end of the TV show. But then you've got all the songs he did with.
Speaker 2:Justin and just with the Island group, dick in a Box, soak in a Three Way. I mean watching Lady Gaga yeah, it's okay in a freeway deal. I mean I just get the. Uh. Watching lady godgall sing dick in a box at the concert the 50th anniversary concert as a ballad was great. It was, it was great. Yeah, honestly, I think eddie vetter coming into that I was the wildest thing of all time. I was like eddie vetter has a sense of humor and this is wild.
Speaker 1:And it worked so well. Like him in a pirate suit, not that weird not that out of character, but still I was.
Speaker 2:I was like. I told him. I was like that's weird. I've never seen that guy laugh. He's been in Pearl Jam for 40 years and I've never seen him laugh. So um, I thought that was hilarious.
Speaker 1:Have you heard Black Corey? He's got a lot of stuff going on. He's a sad guy. He's a sad man.
Speaker 2:And then, um but uh, I would say that I will watch on repeat if I ever think of them. One is Garth Brooks and the Devil.
Speaker 1:Have you ever seen that one when Will Ferrell's the devil and Garth Brooks is?
Speaker 2:just playing, a guy trying to write a song and the devil sucks at writing the song At some point just changes the words to Smash Mouth. I freaking love that sketch.
Speaker 1:That is a good one. That's a really strong one.
Speaker 2:And then Cobras and the Panthers.
Speaker 1:Okay, remind me what that one is, because it's like West Side Story, right Okay?
Speaker 2:And he's just trying to start a gang fight, but everyone around him is singing and he's like what's happening. He's just so confused by the West Side Story and Robert Downey Jr is the host, I think that episode, so he's on it doing well because at this point he's not on the show and he's got more confidence.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:But it's hysterical to me, it's the Coburn Panthers.
Speaker 1:Another one from high school that I remember was the Hermione one with Lindsay Lohan. Yes, when she got back from summer and, like Harry, and Rachel Dratch is Harry Potter. And they're just freaking out. They're like, wow, you've matured, hermione. It's just the most. It's obviously like dated too bad, but like it's just it's ridiculous. I think her being harry is what sells it, because he's she just does such a good job being like child harry potter.
Speaker 2:I love it so much, yeah and yeah and so, um, and I okay. So you, since you brought up lindsey lohan, let's go to hosts okay, let's talk hosts okay wait, hold on. Did you ever give me a top five SNL movies?
Speaker 1:How Corey?
Speaker 2:Okay, I did come up with the top five. Okay, and I just assumed we'd have the same top five. Okay, go for it. I just figured we'll have different orders.
Speaker 1:Okay, number five is Blues Brothers for me okay number two is night at the roxbury okay and the number one is wayne's world got it okay, because the other ones are kind of okay. So we're talking sn exclusive. Yeah, just the sketch movie, that's much easier. Um, yeah, I, I honestly I think you've got blues brothers hot rod. Well, the hot rod's not an slm movie. Okay, see, it's ruined it. Okay, let me look at your list well, I just have my five.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's probably all I need. Um, because I just left ladies man, stewart and MacGruber out.
Speaker 1:Okay, so five is probably Ladies man for me.
Speaker 2:You like Ladies man. I do enjoy Ladies man. I thought it was fun. I like Tim Meadows a lot. I didn't like Ladies man.
Speaker 1:My three. Top three Is probably going to be Coneheads at three, Wayne's World at two and Blues Brothers at one. So four. I guess you go, Because I haven't seen Night at the Roxbury yet.
Speaker 2:How have you not seen Night at the?
Speaker 1:Roxbury Corey. We have spent six seasons explaining why I haven't seen Night at the Roxbury.
Speaker 2:Your parents won't let you watch Night at the Roxbury Exactly. Oh, Night at the Roxbury is so good and so I love Night at the Roxbury and I think Chris Kattan was an underrated cast member. Chris Kattan is an underrated member underrated member, and so is uh who's mcgruber? Uh, will forte. They're both really underrated. Will forte is really fun. I just think will forte is more fun in doses.
Speaker 1:I don't think he's a leading guy, I would say the best, chris katan.
Speaker 2:I feel, I feel the opposite way, okay, all right, all right like I could watch more of mcgruber like will forte like he had a run on uh like a few episode run on how I met your mother and I thought he was hysterical. Yeah, as like uh marshall's co-worker that's right and but I like, to me it's like I wouldn't want you on the show all the time, but I was like, but you're hilarious as well, like he popped up during the the 50th anniversary thing and I was like oh yeah, yeah, I love that guy yeah he's, he's really he's a fun dude, um and so, uh, but okay, before that we were going to hosts because you mentioned lindsey lohan.
Speaker 1:Yes, we have to talk about. Obviously snl has hosts.
Speaker 2:Right, right, right do you have like a favorite host or do you have like like?
Speaker 1:I think currently one of my favorite people that when they pop up is adam driver okay, so that's my thing.
Speaker 2:I really think we're in a weird modern era of snl of just great hosts, yeah because, like I wrote down, like gosling, pascal, yeah, john ham, yes, timothy, like Gosling.
Speaker 1:Pascal. Jon Hamm, yes, timothy Chalamet for some reason keeps showing up and killing it. His the Rap Roundtable sketch is already iconic.
Speaker 2:It's incredible. And then Adam Driver, emma Stone both had great episodes. Melissa McCarthy, who for some reason I thought was a cast member, but no.
Speaker 1:She just knows when to show up and show out.
Speaker 2:When she shows up. It's incredible, and I mentioned Lindsay Lohan and Kim Kardashian as strong hosts.
Speaker 1:Okay, I've never really watched a Kardashian one.
Speaker 2:It's just, for whatever reason, they knew what to do. They knew their assignment, which is mostly to just be the butt of the joke.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and have a good time with it and that kind of gives you a little more respect, a little more.
Speaker 2:I think that's what it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like, because I mean, kim did a sketch on the 50th anniversary this week and she was just the joke, yeah, or you know. And someone who surprises me is scarlett johansson there's some that get on there.
Speaker 2:You're like, oh, you have a funny bone to the head. Yeah, there's that, but but that also speaks.
Speaker 1:it's like, okay, you have to be, you have to be kind of a cool person to like get along and be a butt of a joke all the time, like when they were doing the end of the year, where they read each other's lines at the on the weekend update and she was there and they just kept cutting to her backstage after he was just saying the most terrible things about her. She's just like, oh my God, stop. And so, um, that's that's so good.
Speaker 2:Um, I think, like in terms of the all time hosts. I think there's a top three that, like I mean. I think, like in terms of the all-time hosts, I think there's a top three, like I mean I think if you went through every list in the world, these would be your most common top three, which is Alec Baldwin.
Speaker 1:He's like hosted. Like how many 17 times 17 freaking times. I think Steve Martin's one below him.
Speaker 2:And then Steve Martin and Tom Hanks. I feel like those are your top three hosts of all time, and I include Steve Martin and Martin Short together as a package deal. Which they kind of are.
Speaker 1:Because when I see one of them on there, I'm like where's Steve, Where's Martin? When's he going to show up? And they usually do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but those, I feel like, are your top three hosts of all time. Yeah for sure For sure.
Speaker 1:And I think that are also not cast members. They weren't cast members and came back.
Speaker 2:So if you talk about cast members who came back, will ferrell and then tina fey? Yeah are like massively good episodes of like when they came back. And then I think christopher walken is like the last guy you put on that list, because he also just really kills it every time he's on I think he's hosted quite a bit well. We always think of the cowbell and then yes, if bruce dickinson wants more cowbell, I think we should give it to him and also recently chapelle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I enjoy chapelle's episode chapelle's, just chapelle's, just weirdly transcended comedy. He, he's now just like a really great spoken word artist yeah who makes?
Speaker 1:really bad jokes. Really bad jokes about the trans community yeah, but it's. But it's also like when he comes on, it's almost like a barometer check of society. He's like how's everybody doing, how are we doing?
Speaker 2:chapelle, though in terms of even like his trans jokes, he's doing what I think kanye wishes he was doing with nazis, which is trying to like create this social dialogue. Only kanye's just being a nazi right.
Speaker 1:That's what. When all this stuff recently happened with kanye I, I stopped for a moment. I had a moment of hesitation because, because you know, I like his old music but his new stuff just isn't. Is it the same? But at the same time you're like, okay, what is he trying? Is he trying to like make a statement? Is it trying to be like, yeah, this thing. And you kind of just like, no, it's just, it's just bad and he's bad and he needs help and he needs to get back on his medication.
Speaker 2:It's bad whereas, like chapelle makes jokes about his community and like in there, at that point I think that's just up to you if you want to say it's bad, it's in poor taste or hey, he's a comedian and that's the point he's making. Because he, like he clearly makes those jokes saying like I actually don't have a problem with trans people yeah you know, and that's his thing what's the?
Speaker 1:I think he's following the function, not saying it's good or bad, but like the function of the squeaky wheel yeah if you keep making noise about it, he's gonna keep making the joke yeah, and he's gonna keep.
Speaker 1:He's gonna keep poking that yeah and so like, and I do think he had a really good like episode recently and so, but like, and we, we should have mentioned drew barrymore is the her and tina fayre tied for, like the females that hosted the most, which is like six or seven, yeah, and but for being a non-former member, she's the top one and so um, which is cool.
Speaker 2:My favorite modern host, though, is nate bargetti. You love that nate bargetti should be on snl it's just like he got too big before he had a chance to be on snl is the problem.
Speaker 1:It's like him and uh shane shane gillis yeah, it's like they weren't quite the vibe of snl, went off and did their stand-up but when nate's on it he just feels like a cast member yeah and I like his recurring sketch as george washington.
Speaker 2:if you've seen this, it's good. It's so good. It's his branding. Why do we use these?
Speaker 1:measurements Nobody knows.
Speaker 2:How far is the mile? Nobody knows.
Speaker 1:And then Kenan's like so all of us will be free? Like, yes, all of you, and just ignoring Kenan's questions, pretty good.
Speaker 2:And so I think, like those are like the primary, like huge hosts, that you just have to mention Alright, Nick. I tasked you with coming up with an all-star cast oh God, you did With creating an all-time cast of SNL. Now I gave it to you in this following criteria I wanted your goat. He's the greatest of all time, which we can just say who's your favorite? I wanted your top five male cast members your top five female cast members. Your top five female cast members I wanted your glue guy and to describe glue guy.
Speaker 2:It's just the guy who's in every sketch that you can count on you know, a lot of the time it's a character actor um, your musical cast member, the cast member with musical talent, okay, okay. And who's your weekend update? Got it?
Speaker 1:either anchor or anchor team okay, okay so do you want to start at the bottom and work our way?
Speaker 2:up. Yeah, we should work our way up.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, so Weekend Update Anchors, Because we grew up pretty much in the Tina Fey era the Tina and Amy era Tina and Jimmy.
Speaker 2:I remember Tina and Jimmy a lot yeah.
Speaker 1:I think that was the first one, yeah, if I'm remembering correctly yeah I remember that one popping up a lot, um, I think. But but the shea and colin yost, one's the one I obviously remembering the most because it's most recent, but I've also been.
Speaker 2:You see a lot. I'm more engaged with it now, you see, when you know it's viral.
Speaker 1:But I I think, if not for them. I think norm mcdonald just nails it like his just dry humor. I think he's the he's the goat of that, because like it's I think that's the the charm of, because I think that's the charm of it Because Colin Yost almost has it down to a T as well, which is just, like, say, the most outlandish thing. Just stare at the camera, act like I didn't just say that, like this is just news. But I think Norm MacDonald is who I would go for.
Speaker 2:Norm MacDonald is absolutely my weekend update anchor Excellent, he's just. First of all, he's like my favorite comedian of all time. He's the comedian's comedian. He is, and Bill Murray gave a ranking on the 50th anniversary. And he's technically the top, because the first spot was just a joke.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And Norm MacDonald was ranked the highest. And he's also the only guy getting fired for doing the weekend update.
Speaker 1:That's true, that's not comedy.
Speaker 2:And I don't remember the joke, but he just had the privilege of being the weekend update guide during OJ's trial and so every week you're just covering this and trying to be funny and I love. I think the joke was it was a picture of OJ looking back relieved and he just says and here's a picture of OJ thinking I'll never be able to kill her again. And I think that's what it was. It's because Norm was saying what nobody wanted to say at the time.
Speaker 2:But that we all say now, we all kind of which is he did it and so he's on a massively like, like huge show saying the the quiet part out loud, which is so this guy murdered his wife right. Have you ever seen, did you see him host the espies that one year? I don't know if I did he literally says like he who was it? Man, it was uh, who was the guy from usc that I think god is reggie bush maybe yeah and he said and reggie bush, the eyes been trophy winner.
Speaker 2:They can't take that away from you unless you murder your wife and her ex-wife, and the crowd's just like but he says it was such.
Speaker 1:That's what's wild is like we all kind, we're all pretty like 99.9.
Speaker 2:Sure oj did it oh, we're like 100, sure at this point that he did, but they're still just shocked at somebody who says it out loud he said it back then, you know, like he said it like during, he was the guy saying what we all like just admit now, back then, where you're like, no, he's proven innocent, and like, but he's like, no, that guy murdered his ex-wife and her boyfriend and so it's just like it's wild, it'd be like trying to make fun of beyonce at the grammys or something like yeah, it's just like he.
Speaker 2:He was the comedian's comedian, you know, and I, so he's definitely my weekend update guy. I didn't. I put a rule that we can't create a team, but if I would have loved to have seen bill murray and norm mcdonald as a team I don't know if we would have survived cory.
Speaker 1:I don't know it would have survived Corey.
Speaker 2:I don't know. It would have been great, but their humor would have just, I think, bounced off each other super well All right, we have musical cast.
Speaker 1:Member next.
Speaker 2:Yeah, correct yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's again non-musical guest on the show. This is someone who uses music for comedy purposes. The best.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you've got greats like Will Ferrell I can't remember the actress who plays him with like the traveling couple that plays at like bars and stuff, Because she was also one of the Delicious hosts Delicious Dish hosts.
Speaker 2:And she was such a strong, strong cast member.
Speaker 1:We're losing so many SNL fans right now.
Speaker 2:Listen, there was 280, something like cast members. Leave us alone.
Speaker 1:Anna Geister. Oh Geister Geister, anna Geister, yeah, she's great too. Oh, uh, they performed at the 50th anniversary concert and they did not like us and they do the a minor part and they're like trying to find the note and so that was incredible and so, um, but you go first, who's your? I think sandler okay man.
Speaker 2:He's just like from, he's just obviously sandler's going to mean something to someone my age, okay, but I also think he's the guy that's like he's used music the most in his career. Obviously he made the Wedding Singer, you know. Yeah, the Somebody Kill Me Please song's hysterical.
Speaker 1:I went and saw him in concert like a year ago and it was a just great at like writing a simple song, like he did one at the 50th anniversary, which is just literally about the show. Yeah, he's poking fun at like all of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he, he's the best at just writing that very relaxed, like unintentionally, like good, like I'm just talking about something, and I think he's just one of those dudes you look at and you go like, oh, like, if you weren't an actor, you would have been probably a musician probably, you know, like it's like johnny dab, he could have been the guy that If you weren't an actor, you probably would have just played guitars.
Speaker 1:He's the guy that could have left SNL and just started a band and no one would have questioned it.
Speaker 2:No, and so I think that's cool, and he obviously has the Chris Farley song which I got to see him play live, and I cried, oh nice.
Speaker 1:And so it was, and the Hanukkah song, yeah, and the lonely island, I. I feel like they might have just kept brought the interest into snl from that 2000, early 2000s, late 20 or noughties era yeah because, like you know, yeah, you have dick in a box, you have mother lover, you have all the runs. Jack sparrow, I jizzed in my pants we can say it the Mermaid Song.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Mermaid Song, like he just keeps going, and he got one on the 50th too which was just more about SNL, but they also did it in a medley style. Yeah, that's right. That almost was very like. It was almost very Les Miserables skip the next night. Yeah, and so it was. It was pretty good and so no, I think the fact that he made like pop star never stopped stopping based around music and stuff.
Speaker 1:I think it's. I don't know if it eclipses Sandler, but it solidifies himself as 1a or 1b of like the music, I think it is kind of like those are the two guys that are going to be most associated with.
Speaker 2:Like they had musical talent that they used on the show I'm going to be. Can I be negative?
Speaker 1:I guess, but I'm going to admit that I'm negative. I don't love Andy Samberg, I know.
Speaker 2:But my thing is it's an irrational dislike of Andy Samberg because I hated Hot Rod. You hate Hot Rod and I hate how much people love Hot Rod Corey, but I think Hot Rod's one of the dumbest movies To me. It's like people who like Napoleon, dynamite and Nacho Libre. I'm like these are dumb movies and they're not funny.
Speaker 1:Corey.
Speaker 2:There's funny parts of them.
Speaker 1:I was about to say I was like, I'm pretty sure, him falling down the mountainside. I recall you bursting into laughter. Which part when he falls. He's doing the training montage and he falls.
Speaker 2:I mean there's little pieces of it that are funny, but I think they're dumb movies. I know several people I feel, like napoleon dynamite. Everyone in napoleon dynamite.
Speaker 1:It's funny, except for napoleon I feel like you, uncle rico's great, the brother's great. I don't think it's fair to put them in the same category. There's completely different.
Speaker 2:I just feel like there was this time where I didn't get comedy movies I think that's what it was. I think there was a time where I was, just like I hate everything funny and I'm mad that people love this stuff. Who hurt you maybe?
Speaker 1:I was sad. I don't know. Maybe I'm gonna look at a calendar and try to figure out what upsets you at this time.
Speaker 2:This was pre like the big breakup, so I don't know what I was sad about like back then, but I did not want comedy in my life in like 2005, 2006 I mean, I just had a high school.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna figure this out, figure myself. Maybe you're just like.
Speaker 2:This isn't my thing a lot of john, a lot of John Hughes movies. But I'll say this I think it's an irrational Because I also hate Brooklyn Nine-whatever.
Speaker 1:Nine-Nine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nine-nine, but I think I only hate it because he's on it, corey, and so I'm like, no, I'm wrestling with the fact that I think Andy Samberg might be a really talented man.
Speaker 1:Is it the same irrational? No, it's not the same irrational, because he's not talented as jay baruchel. Oh no, I hate that dude. Yeah, no, forget that dude.
Speaker 2:I also. Yeah, forget that dude, but like I think uh, I think it's. I've come into grips with that. Andy seberg was a really talented human being and I just haven't and I'm trying to like face my irrational he's also.
Speaker 1:He's also like america's little brother, like he has that kind of humor yeah, but it's like I need to just accept that he's talented.
Speaker 2:He is talented.
Speaker 1:At least admitting is the first step, corey, and I'm proud of you, but I hate Fred Armisen. Yeah, we got a lot of work to do on that one, if I had to rank every cast member, he would be dead last. Behind Robert Downey Jr. Yes, I don't know why Behind.
Speaker 2:Quaid, and I'll say this I even think it's, I think he, because he's one of he's in this conversation.
Speaker 1:Portlandia, just didn't do it for you. He's a musical guy, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that's what it is. I think I'm sick of him shoving that he can play music down my throat okay, because it's like every time he's on a tonight show he's like hey, look at me, I'm behind a drum set, I'm doing like this. It's an irrational hatred and I should probably come around on Fred Armisen.
Speaker 1:I still need to watch Portlandia.
Speaker 2:Because he's a delightful guy. Portlandia was okay, because it made fun of hipsters.
Speaker 1:Okay, but he's a hipster so I didn't like it, so it's not fully.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I need someone who's not a hipster making fun of it.
Speaker 1:I don't want self-deprecating hipster humor Okay okay, I want someone just trashing. Alright Corey Character actor glue guy gal. So why do they call it the glue guy or glue guy?
Speaker 2:Because it's just like it's that person who like just was in everything, like I think, if they were given, it's like I think it's like the writer says this guy can do this, yeah, or this gal can do this you know, I think that's what it is. It's just like this person can do.
Speaker 1:Or in like a Keenan example, like they're always going to be reliable, to like. Stay in the sketch, stay in character, even though I think can add something to it.
Speaker 2:I think I think keenan would be considered probably the glue guy right now yeah, bill hitter was considered a blue.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know I.
Speaker 2:You know it's weird, they don't like I'm in my researching, kind of like the best glue.
Speaker 1:Glue guy is the, just the term I didn't say a lot of women mentioned, but I would say like maya rudolph would have probably been she's a solid glue, gal anything yeah kate mckinnon could do anything yeah, I feel like kate mckinnon became the star of the show during kind of because because it was not not a down part of the show, but it was not like she. Was it like?
Speaker 2:that they were writing for her. Anyways, yeah, they're like I think the glue guys like, hey, so and so doesn't want to do the sketch, but this person won't, right, you know, they'll always do it and they'll, and they'll nail it, yeah, so um, yeah, shout out.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna shout out chris parnell, yeah, because he's a good glue guy. He forget about him and then, and then lazy sunday comes on. You're like chris parnell, we missed you chris parnell was great um. I, dan akroyd, was the original glue guy.
Speaker 2:He was the original glue guy and I think you have to shout him out for sure, but not that I watched a lot of early snl.
Speaker 1:I actually might do that on like some nights while I'm editing or something, but I I'm choosing bill hater because he was more of my period. That's wild and I think, like keenan definitely is the current glue guy and I love keenan. But the thing about bill hater is like, while he is the glue guy, it's like he he meets that other part of it which is like, yeah, that guy can do it. If somebody's not willing to do it, bill will do it because, like, there are so many characters that are just you don't even know their names or anything but like, like and he has so many quotable things, like, in a word, chaos, and you're just like this is great and he just knows how to be demented and crazy, but then can reel it back when necessary his character, stefan, is considered yeah, greatest on the on this on the weekend updates um, I'm gonna give an honorable mention to john Lovitz because I love John Lovitz.
Speaker 1:John Lovitz is so great, his little part in the 50s special where he's not even in the building, he's across the street in the American Girl doll store.
Speaker 2:I freaking love John Lovitz and he could do anything and he can be funny with anything. You know, daryl Hammond was the glue guy for a long time and he's the second longest running cast member, but I'm giving it to and I, the name I'm about to say, could honestly easily be my greatest of all time, but I'm gonna put him here.
Speaker 1:It's phil hartman it is yeah, phil hartman is incredible he is like and he could do anything my first experience with phil hartman was small soldiers and then jingle all the way, then then jingle all the way, I think that's the order so you just knew him as, like the, the dad, the dad, yeah, either either either a good dad or a bad dad kind of both yeah, kind of both like when does small soldiers come?
Speaker 2:hold on, we gotta, we gotta pause 98 yeah, and then jing, all the way was like 96, yeah, 96, yeah.
Speaker 1:You watched those in the wrong order man, I did, I did, I should well. I watched jing all the way first, and then it was small soldiers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you yeah because you all, the way you saw in theaters instead of space jam should I tell my small soldier story now, because I don't know if we'll ever recast we're never recasting small soldiers, it's mostly voice okay, real quick.
Speaker 1:Short. Long, too long. Didn't read. Young nick was excited, saw small soldiers coming out in a magazine. Was looking forward to it. But young nick doesn't always get to go to the movie theaters, so young nick has to wait for it to go through its theatrical run, then come out six months later it took a minute.
Speaker 2:It took a minute, yeah, six months later.
Speaker 1:So streaming two weeks later cycle of this yeah rent it from blockbuster super hype. The movie starts, they say shit and damn and stuff like multiple times. Within the first 10 minutes dad ejects the cassette, drives it back to blockbuster that night man, why was your dad such a fuddy-duddy man?
Speaker 2:I?
Speaker 1:mean military, you know, he didn't hear shit and fucking the military I probably. Surely someone yelled it at him. You know I'm processing it excuse my language.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to curse less but you know I feel like you ever. Okay, I'm at the age where if I'm gonna say the f word, I feel like a child if I say f word it's true, I, you know, just might as well say saying but yeah, now if you say but I'm like I feel like a 10 year old, I'm like I'm just gonna say ass right, grown up, yeah, you know you could say the word and then just be like sorry, yeah, so yeah, excuse my language, but I feel like your dad had someone had to yell horrible things at him in the military.
Speaker 2:Well yeah, that or full metal jacket lied to us? Oh no, it did not. So maybe that's what your dad just got like just PTSD if he heard bad words. So he just drove it back to Blockbuster and just threw it at some kid and just said filth.
Speaker 1:And so I didn't rewind this. And so um, you were gonna pick phil hartman, I was gonna stop, you'd be like we have to talk about phil hartman.
Speaker 2:It's just I, the. The unfrozen caveman is one of the best sketches ever, and I don't even know why it's so goofy it's listed in the top top listings all the time. Yeah he's because your way is confused and frightened. It's such a simple idea of just a well-spoken caveman and it just works. And so yeah, he's okay. So give me your top five women. My top five women, yeah, female cast members of all time.
Speaker 1:So this is who I believe are the top five, or my personal, your personal favorite best is subjective and people should stop saying best.
Speaker 2:I guess that just means my favorite in subjective terms, okay, okay because I I did have some. I was looking it up right now I was going for like the all time, then you said I could pick who I wanted, so I had to do either.
Speaker 1:If you want to do all time, all of them, yeah um, kate mckinnon obviously is going to be on there, tina fey is going to be on there, cats too. Um, kennan obviously is going to be on there, tina fey is going to be on there, cats too. Um, I might put maya rudolph on there because she is just so good, okay, and then from there, nick is stalling by making the music rachel dratch doesn't get enough appreciation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's not. She's not ever gonna be a movie star. No, but she's gonna enter my top five. She should. And then I will round it out of my favorites. I think heidi gardner is kind of a new. No, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, I can't even think of her name. It's not fair if I can't think of her name um wait well, who is it? She's one of the new characters she's.
Speaker 2:She's fun and spunky and dresses funny gosh, I don't know. You'd have to look up the newest cast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, new cast, current cast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, SNL current cast. Use the Google machine.
Speaker 1:We're professional podcasters here guys.
Speaker 2:Well, our producer took off.
Speaker 1:He did.
Speaker 2:He took off to Dallas. Half the people it's showing when you typed in current cast are not current, are?
Speaker 1:not current Sarah Sherman I think she's fine. Yeah, she's fun, she's like the lady gaga of the current snl. Every time you see her and you're like, oh, that's an outfit that's.
Speaker 2:That's a choice. I'll go all right. So, um, all right, okay, cool, um, wildly nick. I didn't expect us to hit so many of the same. Oh really yeah that's what I feel like you crapped on my list honestly I expected you to go in different directions. Um minor in order, okay, uh Okay. Maya Rudolph comes in at five, got it, because I think she can do anything. I actually have Heidi Gardner at fourth. She's a current, she's pretty good, she's freaking.
Speaker 1:I've never not laughed at her. No, she's always great.
Speaker 2:When I watch her new ones, I think the current episodes is great. And so I have Kate McKinnon. Again, I have a weird thing about her where I'm like I don't know if I like her, but she's hilarious, she is. And again I think she just anytime she was ever on she like Okay, so you have your Jimmy Fallons who are? Hilarious because they can't get through a sketch without laughing. And then you have your Kate McKinnon, who everyone around her is laughing and she never breaks.
Speaker 2:And it's what makes it great, because she's just it's too much, you can't. You can't handle it and so uh gilda radner is okay, and she's when she's original cast member.
Speaker 1:That's cool, great, great great.
Speaker 2:She was married to gene wilder um and I she's oh yeah and so, uh, she was incredible. She was, uh, rosanna, uh, what was the? What was the weekend update? Rosanna, rosanna donna, okay she was great um. And then my number one is rachel dratch. She is my number one, all-time female interesting, we weren't that similar. I mean a little bit. We had three. Well, I guess you backed off, heidi, I did.
Speaker 2:I backed off Heidi yeah, oh, but we had Kate McKinnon and Maya Rudolph, so too yeah, no three, because you also had Rachel Dratch.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right. Okay, three for five.
Speaker 2:Man, I can't count, corey, it's not my specialty and so, um, yeah, I think Rachel Dratch was incredible, you know, and I mean there's tons. Jan hoats was great. Sherry o'terry was great.
Speaker 1:Obviously, molly shannon might be one of the most notable female but those are my five it's time for top five male top five male you have to go first I have to go first.
Speaker 2:You do all, right, I went first last time coming in at number five again, I felt the need to bring a current cast member on here, and this guy is I bowen, yang is hilarious. You like bolin? I?
Speaker 1:bowen yang is incredible he is.
Speaker 2:I dude his jd vance. I just I don't know bowen yang just commits to everything in a way. That's just, it's automatically funny. Yes, um, agreed, I have dan akroyd at number four, okay, so, um, I think he's, you know, obviously original cast um and he's hilarious. Um, three's three was hard because I feel like I can't have both. Okay, I went with chris farley okay over jim or john belushi fair. I feel like you can't have both on the same cast.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's you know, you gotta type, you gotta type, yeah, but I went with chris farley just because I'm a millennial okay you, you know. And then Dana Carvey at number two. Okay Again, Dana Carvey is just really incredible.
Speaker 1:He's really diverse.
Speaker 2:That's the thing, man, he was diverse. He could do anything, and then my number one male is Mike Myers.
Speaker 1:Mike Myers Mike.
Speaker 2:Myers was my guy when I was watching it with my older sister as a kid.
Speaker 1:I thought he was hilarious.
Speaker 2:He is hilarious. Linda what? What was the Jewish mom's name? He just appeared on the 50th as the Linda Richmond. Linda Richmond is hilarious, he did the skit. That was my favorite part of the 50th anniversary, because Mike Myers is kind of a recluse now.
Speaker 1:It's true, I was excited he showed up. Since you're a big mike myers fan, did you watch that show he did on? It was on netflix or something. Yeah, I haven't seen it I watched almost all of it I mean, it's fat, is it?
Speaker 2:that's that's the genius of me made an entire show based on a joke from. So I married an axe murderer, which is his best character, by the way. Way is the.
Speaker 1:Scottish dad, and so I married an Axe-Murder.
Speaker 2:He's the dad, oh he's both he plays the dad and the son.
Speaker 1:Oh, so Eddie Murphy did, yeah, but Eddie.
Speaker 2:Murphy took it to like eight characters.
Speaker 1:True, true, true, true, true, true.
Speaker 2:I mean it's like Austin Powers. He plays like Fat Master, dr Evil and.
Speaker 1:Austin Powers. So, and that's true.
Speaker 2:He's done more but, like the Scottish dad in Soda Mary, axe Murder is top tier McNair's to me.
Speaker 1:But he's my number one guy. Okay, okay, all right, all right Okay.
Speaker 2:And he's Wayne, he's Wayne.
Speaker 1:Campbell and Dieter.
Speaker 2:He's Dieter, or whatever the German talk show host, that was hilarious.
Speaker 1:That's true. I saw that, that's true. Top reasons um three probably my three spot or my four spots excuse me, I can't again guys. Sorry, I can't count. All right, my three top three is bill hater, bill murray and then adam sandler probably repeat that again. Bill hater, adam sandler, bill murray okay, so you only have four I have four.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think of who my fourth slot would go to, because they're going to be probably above bill hater, or maybe bill harris should just be four. Who would be my fifth spot? We'll bump bill up, let's. I'll do a modern. I'll do a modern one as well. I'll do a modern one as well. Marcelo hernandez I think he's pretty great. He's pretty good. I think he's pretty good. He's pretty fun so my five is marcelo bill hater, and then we jump to the top three, which?
Speaker 2:sandler, murray or wait sandler no car. No, sorry, I can't even count anymore uh marcello dana, bill hater, adam sandler, bill murray I love finding out that you're a hater fan I don't know why that just, it just works but maybe I'm just glad that bill hater's getting some love.
Speaker 1:I think he, I think we're all glad he's getting some love.
Speaker 2:Before we go to our goat, I would like to mention some of the biggest names that auditioned for Saturday Night Live and did not make it. Sure, I'm not going to go through all of them. I mean, there's obviously notable, like the most notable ever is Jim Carrey.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Jim Carrey auditioned. That is surprising, he got told no, and then he went on to In Living.
Speaker 1:Color and kind of rivaled obviously them. For a long time he was the sting of In Living Color.
Speaker 2:SpongeBob SquarePants Tom Kenny that would have been great.
Speaker 1:Why isn't he hosted? He should host.
Speaker 2:Johnny Knoxville, try it out.
Speaker 1:Johnny Knoxville I can see, but I can also see how he could be on the show.
Speaker 2:I mean, what's he going to do? Just hurt himself a bunch?
Speaker 1:I mean that I mean, that's just slapstick comedy.
Speaker 2:He's the modern like slap charlie chaplin basically yeah, but they, like they purposely didn't get hurt, he just would like, I'm gonna actually get hurt it's comedy, it's an art form, cory um the other really big one that people know, it's like, obviously, andy kaufman, like addition for the original cast. He was on the first episode as a featured guy, but like he was just too, uh, unpredictable um john goodman, donald glover, zach Galifianakis everyone knows that Colbert and Carell were on there.
Speaker 2:Jennifer Coolidge was one of the ones that I I remember she was on the documentary and someone said I really wanted her, but Lauren didn't see it. I mean, it's just crazy. You can go through and there's just so many people that tried out and did not make it for that. That's wild.
Speaker 2:Most of the cast of friends at some point. Yeah, apparently jennifer anston was trying to be on it. She tried. Um, you know, lisa cutro tried. I mean, it's just, it's wild. Mark maron, you know, he's a podcaster like us now. Hey, uh, john mulaney auditioned but he ended up becoming a writer yeah, he did the slow path. Yeah, he did the slow path, and and so it's wild to think how many people did try it and did not make it yeah, so GOAT.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it's controversial or not to you, but I think it has to be Will Ferrell.
Speaker 2:Man, you have Jason Sudeikis pulled up on your Google right now and I was about to just absolutely argue with you for an hour. And don't get me wrong, I'm the guy that says Jason Sudeikis would make a good Indiana Jones, but Maybe I think the time's passed.
Speaker 1:The time's definitely passed, but I think he would have been, if we needed to hand off the torch, better than Chris Pratt, because he's in too much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, yeah, we don't need that I still stand by Bradley Cooper, though, oh yeah still good looking but no, I think will ferrell, just because, like there are so many, not only just sketches he's involved in but characters he's involved with and created and starred, as I mean we talked about the couple that plays the music, like the old school versions of songs. Yeah, the swinger couple that is in the hot tub. You've got the guy who's like uh, you think the moon's made of cheese or whatever harry carrey.
Speaker 2:harry cary, where he made Jeff Goldblum look normal. Yeah, exactly the only time Jeff Goldblum's had to play the straight man. Yes, other than maybe Independence Day, I guess.
Speaker 1:And we were watching the 50th anniversary episode and we watched the last skit with Keenan and Eddie Murphy and he comes in just in a bit part and still just doesn't officially steal the show but is like officially steal the show, but like it's like a memorable, it's just funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the cowbell cowbell scene, you know, and all he's doing is just with his gut out hitting a cowbell. It's one of those things where I want to argue with you, because I'm not a big fan of will ferrell's movies like you're not. I mean, my thing is this is like do you?
Speaker 1:hate comedy I hate.
Speaker 2:I don't even want to say not a big fan, because I would say like I'm 50, 50 with will ferrell movies okay like it's like half I can take and half I don't love.
Speaker 1:Do you like the family-friendly Will Ferrell or do you like the R-rated Will Ferrell Well?
Speaker 2:my thing is with R-rated Will Ferrell. I think it's lazy. I think, he just like it's just how can I just say a bunch of expletives and it's like I think old school is his best one, but that's because he's the straight man in it. He's the drunk, he's like he starts out as like the guy who grew up and he like descends down and I think that's like okay, I think blades of glory is his best movie what's your favorite, I think it's I think it's his best character is the figure skater chas michael michaels get to one song, one song only so I think that's really good.
Speaker 2:Uh, he's stranger than fiction, like some of his drama stuff is actually really good um you know and so like other guys.
Speaker 1:I don't love other guys. I need to re-watch it. I think, but I honestly there's just so much that gets pulled out of it in culture now.
Speaker 2:I think that's more of like a Mark Wahlberg problem.
Speaker 1:I don't think I like Mark Wahlberg maybe that's what it is, I just feel like it should have been someone else but that's why I think there's an argument for him also, because he had so many memorable sketches on the show.
Speaker 2:I can't argue with you because I don't know that there's another answer, though I have a different answer because you can, because you can argue.
Speaker 1:Eddie murphy for sure, he carried snl for four years.
Speaker 2:It wasn't my era of time, so like it's again, it's like trying to argue bill russell, wilt chamberlain michael or kobe or lebron yeah, I mean, this is your favorite, yeah, and like your favorite, kind of like and who you think had like the.
Speaker 1:You could argue sandler for sure, who's yours?
Speaker 2:I put eddie murphy okay, as the greatest of all time, absolutely, and I think it's just because he did carry the show for a really long time, but I also think anytime I've ever seen him show back up like he showed up at the 40th he showed up, you know he's. He's been a host, I believe, and like he's and he's done this or he's just showed up at places. Yeah, it's always good it, it's true. The 50th where he plays Tracy Morgan next to Tracy Morgan was perfect. It's too good.
Speaker 1:It was incredible. I don't know how Tracy Morgan kept a straight face.
Speaker 2:I don't either, because Tracy Morgan's kind of being overshadowed by someone playing himself and it just worked perfectly, and so I think he's just I I think, in terms of improv comedy yeah he's kind of untouchable but I would say will ferrell's guy, like you said? 1a, 1b yeah it's it's more like who's great at sketch comedy, who's good at being on the spot?
Speaker 1:in improvving and I think those two were kind of untouchable. Yeah, and the fact that they were together in that scene that we watched for the 50s was pretty cool. I don't know if they've gotten to do a scene together before that, but yeah and it was.
Speaker 2:It was incredible. I, you know. Again, phil hartman could have been my list, norman donald could have been my list, but that's just because his brain of humor is just this whole other thing you know and so like. But I it's hard not to just and you know, and like. Again, I want to argue against will ferrell. But you can, but you can't. One of my favorite skits is the devil in Garth Brooks.
Speaker 1:And it's because Will Ferrell, it's not because of Garth Brooks.
Speaker 2:It's Will Ferrell, it's not Garth, you know and I think it's also that like I think when you look at a guy like Phil Hartman, he's so good, but he's also like he's good because he just knows what he's doing before he walks on stage I think when you watch will ferrell and eddie murphy? You're watching like perfect chaos yes it. It feels like improv it feels like.
Speaker 1:None of this is written down no and it feels like they're just going off the cuff and that's like the point I think that's the thing too, is while they and they're it's also the will ferrell and eddie murphy, but they have more. They definitely have more leniency with stuff, but you saw in several sketches on the 50th where like they would just throw something out. Yeah, that was unexpected like when he was doing Tracy Morgan or when Will was doing the Big Red.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Big Red, you're just like you're like, of course, yeah, we're gonna let that, allow that, because they're making magic, right?
Speaker 2:now, yeah, and so I think it. I think those are the two answers. Like you know, it'd be hard to argue much else in terms of two guys that had an impact outside of like going back to just like original cast members and saying like, well, yeah, these are the guys that started it sure someone's gonna say chase, someone's gonna say acro, someone's gonna say murray I think the ones that you can consider below them are sandler, murray and belushi.
Speaker 2:Yeah, as all-time goats and I, and my thing is, and I think, and I think sorry to interrupt you, mckinnon- yeah potentially, but she needs I think she needs to have like a good film career first.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I mean, like, if you want to just keep it to snl, I think mckinnon has to be in that conversation in the same way, like tina fey and my rudolph you know if you're gonna, because you do have to. Like obviously you know our brains immediately go oh, a man has to be the best, but like obviously no, there were so many females that carried that show and t Tina was a writer, I mean she wrote Mean Girls.
Speaker 1:She wrote an entire sitcom that went for like eight seasons, based off being a writer for SNL.
Speaker 2:You know, so she was massively important to that show.
Speaker 1:So I think we've undervalued Tina Fey quite a bit. Oh, we do. We do undervalue.
Speaker 2:Tina Fey and so, but like I think, when you get into it it's just like it's all about this. I think Jim Belushi to me would be the third because I think he was just good at improv.
Speaker 1:John Belushi. Huh, john Belushi, sorry, john Belushi, not Jim Belushi. Jim's like yes, yes, nailed it.
Speaker 2:So no, but John Belushi, because I think he was also just great at improv. Yeah, I think he was just good at being off the cuff, you know, and I think like those, those three are probably the top three in terms of you just want to go on a who could just walk into a skit and own it with, maybe just like pure charisma and like comedic talent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're talking because we're definitely talking more like the performance alone, and I think that's where, like people like tina fey get a bit put low down a step, but then you've also got. She did sarah palin.
Speaker 2:That's an iconic role that she had as well yeah, and I, but that's my thing is I think it's just like you know when you, when you look at it and you look, it is just like you can tell who. Everyone had their own style of things you know, I think heidi gardner is great, but I don't think she's kate mckinnonon, because I think Heidi Gardner is just one of those people like I'm really prepared for this improv thing.
Speaker 1:I think she has like strong potential. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:But it's just like it's, it's, it's like it's. It is the Michael Jordan thing. He made it look easy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think that I mean like, you hear constant stories of, like Michael Jordan, like, oh, the Bulls were down, and then like, hey, my teammate went over there and said, hey, it's not falling tonight, mj. And then like and then MJ scored 24 points in the last 10 minutes and we lost.
Speaker 2:And it's like well yeah, and that's like that's being good. It's like someone just pissed him off enough to be like oh yeah, I'm gonna try a little harder. Yeah, and like and I think that's what it is with Eddie and Will and like John Belushi is that like? It seemed like they didn't prepare it, just seemed like they were good at it.
Speaker 1:It's like almost like those are the guys that and I would say Chris Farley has to go in there- yeah, farley's a guy that probably, like made, probably gets more cult hero status because of his shorter run and life cut short, sadly like in John Belushi too would have me that same thing, but like I would say, it's just like they looked, like they were just comfortable yeah, like they lived in this world yeah whereas everyone else?
Speaker 2:because the one of the magic things of saturday night live is that it's live and part of the fun is the possible train wreck of escape to the jimmy fallons and, like you know, even keenan's pretty hard at keeping it together a lot and like so, but like those guys you never really saw it that much you know.
Speaker 1:It's just like they felt like they were born. They're just living, living in it. Saturday Night Live yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think that's why you have to have like those guys in question, or I mean like in the conversation- so I can't argue with Will no. And I think Will's one of the reasons Saturday Night Live didn't die in the late 90s, early 2000s.
Speaker 1:Probably Like he you know, I think he's one of those anchor cast members that said, oh, times are tough and maybe we're not the most culturally relevant thing, but some guy's gonna make it. You know, because he.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to see what his runtime was like 95, like 2002 or something like that yeah, he was.
Speaker 1:He was on the show from 95 to 2002. Not nailed it, nailed it. We're spending too much time on the internet, cory.
Speaker 2:Too long, too long I didn't face 54 years old dang.
Speaker 1:She's a babe, babe alert, total babe alert, trying to see where she from 2000 to 2006 yeah.
Speaker 2:So I mean, if you get, if you like, think about 2000, 2002, those. That's a massively like, yeah, that's a big couple, because a lot of like bigs overlap in that era and so, but again, I mean I think you have to look at those like will ferrell was an anchor from the post, chris farley, adam sandler, years years to carrying it to where you got, to the strong 2000s. Because he was down in 95, if you think about, it he overlapped with, I think, Mike Myers.
Speaker 2:one year he was that passing of a torch from that crew that all went on to movies. But then same thing with Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy is this guy that comes in when Chase and akroyd and murray are all leaving for films and then he's got to carry the show through a rough few years, you know, and so like. Again, though, but I mean, that's why you talk about those two guys as goats for sure well, that was saturday night it was if you listen to this, thank you, god bless you, because we're a film podcast.
Speaker 1:It's a film adjacent episode. I mean, yeah, it's got we're talking about the thing that happened this weekend, the anniversary. We're talking about all time greats and how they've transcended into film stardom. So yeah, it's all kosher?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is, and so it's all on, peacock, go watch it.
Speaker 1:That's right. Watch the, watch the special. This is really just an ad for pecan, guys. You really just need to go. It's a small bit. Five cents an episode. Yeah, absolutely nothing subtracting twenty thousand dollars for rights. But yeah, it's, it's a, it's a process, guys. We gotta catch up to the kelsey somehow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh my gosh, the freaking kelsey's. They're probably not talking about this probably not.
Speaker 1:They're probably just talking about how kelsey lost the super bowl and just sad and stuff and how taylor yelled at him.
Speaker 2:I bet I wouldn't be sad if I was Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 2:I just sold my podcast for $200 million.
Speaker 1:He sold it for $200 million, I think.
Speaker 2:so I think they sold it to Spotify for a lot of money.
Speaker 1:Corey, how do we sell out and bro down? I just want to get to the bro down.
Speaker 2:I think you have to date Taylor Swift and win some Super Bowls, but that could go bad.
Speaker 1:I can't win Super Bowls. I'm too old, my 40's probably. No good, no more. I still got solid hands.
Speaker 2:You could be Pickleball. Okay yeah, that's for old people. It's catching on.
Speaker 1:Maybe, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:I don't think Taylor Swift is going to date you, though.
Speaker 1:Listen, she likes hipsters.
Speaker 2:Hipsters play Pickleball.
Speaker 1:I just have to become a hipster, corey I. I'm sorry it's for the podcast. Just remember it's for the podcast.
Speaker 2:Maybe, maybe aim lower. Sabrina Carpenter, Chapel Roan.
Speaker 1:Chapel won't date me.
Speaker 2:Why not she's? She likes girls. Oh, she only likes girls.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she only likes girls now.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:It's all. It's all in the lyrics. Corey Well, short sweet, you know all that good stuff and then we sell out.
Speaker 2:I break up with Sabrina and then the bro down happens. We buy the khakis, we get jobs, we sell out, we bro down.
Speaker 1:I'm so excited.
Speaker 2:I don't even remember what that reference is from. It's basketball. I was referencing South Park well, that's the bro down.
Speaker 1:It's the same guys. They made a movie about a stupid sport earlier reference in their own show.
Speaker 2:Well, no, it's. Uh, they made a movie called basketball right, it's about a lazy sport. Yes, sport they make because they're lazy, that turns out big. And then, at the beginning, though, they're at a high school reunion and one of them's like they're mad because the girls aren't talking to them, and they're like we get the khakis, we get the job, and then but I like that it starts with khakis naturally, naturally so, um, yeah, all right, cool. Hey, we talked about a movie we did there it is.
Speaker 1:There it is, folks.
Speaker 2:It only took an hour and a half, that's all all right, well, um, if you don't like snl, this episode is probably awful for you but hopefully it made you want to watch snl.
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Speaker 2:We still in the surprise era. I think we'll just do surprise era.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's fine, we'll just keep it surprise. Since we didn't talk about movies, I don't know if I should just plug this. Yeah, we'll just you know just call it good, okay, cool All right.
Speaker 2:Well, that was Saturday Night Live. Hope you enjoyed it. We're live from Nick's bedroom on Tuesday night. Say goodbye, nick.