Armageddon: Red, White & Bruce

What if we recast 'Armageddon'?

From the explosive action and emotional storytelling to the unforgettable soundtrack, Armageddon is Michael Bay in full "Bayhem" mode. Join Cory, Nick, and Aly in our deep dive as we explore the intricate layers of this 90s classic that sent audiences on a thrill ride to the stars, while they each recast the film in different years.

We discuss the stellar performances by Bruce Willis, Ben Affleck, and Liv Tyler while examining how their characters navigate the complexities of relationships during an unprecedented global crisis in this ultimate Disaster move. See who Aly picks for her 2018 cast, Cory with his 1990 throwback list, and Nick's unexpected "Sandler-verse" lineup!

Whether you’re revisiting Armageddon for the first time or watching it with fresh eyes, we unpack its impact as a cultural phenomenon and ponder why its themes still resonate today. Did the ending make you cry, or did the action keep you on the edge of your seat? Let’s talk about it! Be sure to subscribe, leave a review, and join us as we celebrate the legacy of Armageddon!

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Nick Growall (@nickgrowall)

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Ash Hurry (@filmexplorationah)
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Terran Sherwood (@terransherwood)

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Speaker 2 0:00

1998., None of them want to pay taxes again, ever. It's what we call a global killer. The United States government just asked us to save the world. I'm marrying you. You bet you are.

Speaker 3 0:21

The United States astronauts trained for you. You have 12 days. I'm an American. You're a flugelhands. You're like 26 miles. You have 12 days. I'm an American. You're a blue-gill landing like 26 miles, 18 minutes to zero. We're in. I'm a man, I'm a. Get him. Welcome to another episode of Quantum Recast. I'm your host, corey, and with me, as always, is Nick.

Speaker 2 0:38

And joining us.

Speaker 3 0:39

Hello Allie.

Speaker 1 0:41

Dale.

Speaker 2 0:41

That's me Just. Allie Dale over here.

Speaker 1 0:42

Guess, allie Dale, that's me, just Allie Dale over here. Guess who's back. It's only been like what? Six months. Yeah, I went on that weird sabbatical where it was just me and you talking about random crap all the time, just whatever was on our minds.

Speaker 3 0:52

We're talking about movies again, corey, so the Dallas Mavericks is like Armageddon and Nico's the asteroid. And he's just taking everyone out.

Speaker 1 1:06

Luca's Owen Wilson, you and nico's the asteroid, and he's just taking everyone out.

Speaker 3 1:08

Luca's owen wilson, you know he's gone and now they don't know what to do?

Speaker 1 1:10

just no, no, you can't be owen wilson, that's such an anticlimactic death in this movie.

Speaker 3 1:13

So, um, all right, we are talking about, of course, armageddon, that's right, 1998's armageddon um starring bruce willis. Live Tyler.

Speaker 1 1:23

Ben Affleck. A hundred people in this movie, it's quite the ensemble.

Speaker 3 1:27

I remember the first time I heard of this movie was. I was at my cousin's house and I was like I don't know, 98, I was 12, going on 13. And my older cousin came back from the movie theater and he was like a masculine weightlifter type of dude. He's like four years older than me, okay, and he came in like bawling still.

Speaker 1 1:47

Oh, all the way from the movie theater.

Speaker 3 1:49

Listen.

Speaker 1 1:50

That's valid.

Speaker 3 1:50

Armageddon made him cry.

Speaker 1 1:52

It's a heart wrenching movie. It really is. It's about fathers and sons and fathers and daughters, oh my god and children and absentee fathers, and this movie's got a lot of daddy issues. A giant comet, that's right. Wipe it all out.

Speaker 3 2:05

The biggest daddy of them all um, but yeah, that's my first experience with it. I don't think I saw it in theaters, though I think I waited um until it was a blockbuster rental, for sure it was a rental, yeah and so um at least I don't remember seeing in theaters.

Speaker 1 2:18

So no, I watched it at home. I remember watching at home. This was, this was a big movie, big movie, parents's let you watch something called armageddon you know, maybe they miss, maybe was a miss, maybe they thought for Jesus like what? This is really late in the game. When is Jesus showing up for this? Like like he's just like Bruce Willis on your left?

Speaker 3 2:39

Jesus shows up at the end and just kills the comet.

Speaker 1 2:42

Then your dad stands up and cheers. He's waving an American flag, not my father, jesus.

Speaker 2 2:48

Oh goodness.

Speaker 3 2:50

Yeah, so you guys, what's your first experience with Armageddon?

Speaker 2 2:53

Late in life, early in life oh mine is vivid. So I was actually 12 or 13 as well.

Speaker 3 2:57

But it was a little bit later on.

Speaker 2 3:09

So you know how HBO used to have like six or seven channels and they would play the same like 15 or 20 movies for like three months, you know, yeah, well, anyway, as we've mentioned on the on this podcast before, I'm a very stubborn person and I have a tendency to re-watch the same stuff over and over again. And so my older brother, tommy, was still living at home and I remember I, I, I walked into the living room to him watching armageddon and he was like ally, you need to watch this, it's so good this is american, you would love this.

Speaker 2 3:24

And I was like change you he really did, and he didn't do that often with movies. But myself, being the stubborn little sister, was like you think, I'm gonna watch this, absolutely not. And so he watched it like three or four more times and I refused to watch it and finally I was like fine, I will watch it nothing else on this hbo channel instantly fell, instantly fell in love with it, watched it probably 10 to 15 times within the next week or two.

Speaker 2 3:46

I mean just obsessed. It's one of those, to this day, where my brother still is like oh, you remember armageddon and I'm like shut up, tommy, but it was you have to trust me I also had had an experience seeing ben affleck for the first time, so it was.

Speaker 3 3:59

I had a massive crush on him. Pearl harbor yeah, yeah, it was before I watched pearl harbor.

Speaker 2 4:03

Yes, yeah oh man this is the affleck heartthrob days.

Speaker 1 4:07

Oh, my goodness gracious to this day, anytime I watched that movie it was a, it was so good the beginning of ali's journey into womanhood it was.

Speaker 3 4:14

It was an experience it's kind of wild, like, if you think about it, like the millennial experience is like if you think about like, people talk about the 70s and they're like. I remember when my big brother introduced me to Led Zeppelin 4. The millennial version is like I remember when my brother showed me Armageddon. Ours was VHS and DVD like discoveries.

Speaker 1 4:35

Absolutely my parents just randomly rented this movie one time and my life was forever changed. But this was a movie. It was also. You know, we talked about Titanic previously and how it was like a big deal that came out a year before this and this kind of follows a lot of the same kind of it's a disaster movie sort of there's a song and a soundtrack that came out with it 10 out of 10.

Speaker 3 4:54

Big cast. It's a stupidly good soundtrack. Stupidly good soundtrack. It's so good I somehow had this I.

Speaker 1 4:59

I had the CD of it. And it's really just a bunch of older artists. I mean, you're looking at Bob Seger, ZZ Top.

Speaker 3 5:07

A lot of Aerosmith. I counted three Aerosmith songs so far. They're all bangers, man, all bangers.

Speaker 1 5:12

Jon Bon Jovi, our Lady, peace. That's relevant, that's the time, that's of the times it was relevant that year.

Speaker 3 5:20

Yeah, that year.

Speaker 1 5:21

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. 88.

Speaker 3 5:22

Those were the times. No, it has like the Trevor Rubin song. That's just the score with the guitar solos. Oh man.

Speaker 1 5:29

Well, he was the composer of it and apparently he had done other things, like Jack Frost, the Michael Keaton movie. Oh, oh, ok, he had also done a lot of other Michael Bay stuff. I believe he did Con Air and he also did Rockstar and National Treasure at least one of the National Treasure.

Speaker 2 5:44

Oh, interesting Okay.

Speaker 1 5:46

He's a South African artist from the. He was in a band called Rabbit. Okay, if that rings a bell, Corey.

Speaker 3 5:51

I didn't expect to open up a can of worms on Trevor when I name dropped him. There it is, wow. Well, I just remember the music. He knows his stuff.

Speaker 1 5:58

The music is like super operatic and I was operatic and I was like this is, this is a, this is a choice, like they're just it's. They're standing there in the background. We only have 30 seconds. We only have 30 feet of pole left. It's like I'm like all right, I mean, I guess it is literally armageddon, but it's wild because all that operatic stuff doesn't happen until they're on the.

Speaker 3 6:17

That's like the soundtrack for the asteroid. It's pretty much.

Speaker 1 6:19

No, no, it's pretty much any time. They have to be serious because you, you've got them. They're going through the montages, they're getting ready Joke's left to right, and when Billy Bob Thornton goes, this thing's on the way and we only have 70 hours until it breaches our atmosphere and kills everyone in distance and you just hear the soul Tyler sheds a tear, grabs Bruce Willis' hand.

Speaker 3 6:40

Oh, it's so good.

Speaker 1 6:47

Listen, I want to know what deal was made between.

Speaker 3 6:48

Like you cast my daughter, we'll let you use sweet emotion. Was that the?

Speaker 1 6:49

deal. Do you think that michael bay watched a lot of aerosmith videos and went? I know my aesthetic for this film now maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 3 6:55

It's basically like live, tyler, because it's like you're watching it and it's live tyler and like I mean live tyler is a perfectly okay actress.

Speaker 1 7:01

I don't I don't think she's incredibly like awesome, but I mean she's fine she's fine, yeah, you know I like empire records a lot I think a lot of people probably initially look at her and go she's just a pretty face, but she does have some. She can act.

Speaker 3 7:11

Yeah, that's my thing so it's hard to like go well. Is it a pity thing? But no, it's like she actually has talent, so and she plays the role well, she plays grace very well I kind of wonder if, like, she's just like let me call my dad, I'll get you the rights to sweet emotion.

Speaker 1 7:24

She, just he. She's going over the script and he just walks. He's like hey, what's going on? And she's like I'm just doing this role. And he reads through it and he keeps reading and he's like it's like two o'clock at night. He's written this song.

Speaker 3 7:34

He's like I've got it, it's perfect and again it's a movie about fathers and sons and fathers and daughters and it's the banger soundtrack.

Speaker 1 7:40

But at the same time the song lyrics get a little weird. Like at first you're like, yeah, it's a song about fathers and daughters, but then it's like I want to kiss your eyes and thank God, we're together, we are not going to question the lyrics of this absolutely perfect song.

Speaker 3 7:53

First of all, Aerosmith didn't write it, diane Warren wrote it.

Speaker 1 7:55

That's right, that's right 16-time snub of the Oscars, diane Warren. Oh my gosh, serious, no, absolutely not. Oh, okay, no, no, no, I mean she is she's.

Speaker 3 8:07

She's had 16 nominations, including the past oscars this year.

Speaker 2 8:09

What did she?

Speaker 1 8:09

what did she? What did she all?

Speaker 3 8:10

happen, I got it according to the internet her saying the song was a song for that. It's like a military movie about, like the african-american experience during, so it's called the journey from the movie the six, triple eight, and it was her, her, the artist, saying it Gotcha.

Speaker 1 8:23

Her big hits because she had bangers in the late 80s and 90s where Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now by Starship for the movie Mannequin.

Speaker 3 8:31

Two, isn't it Mannequin 2? Oh, it is, mannequin, you're right.

Speaker 1 8:34

And then Don't Miss a Thing by Aerosmith. And then also, how Do I Live by Leigh-Anne Rimes for Con Air.

Speaker 3 8:40

Damn All lost and I am on air. Damn, how did all lost and I am.

Speaker 1 8:43

I am still mad about man rhymes losing to celine, so it lost this year to when you believe, from the prince of egypt. It was a tough year because you had that one and then, oh no, that's those are the only two. I missed a misread something, but those are the two main ones. You had songs from quest for camelot, the horse whisper and babe pig in the city.

Speaker 2 9:01

So interesting, I will say.

Speaker 3 9:02

I mean prince of egypt is all that has some banger songs in there as well it's just, I don't know, that's wild to me, that that whole woman's life is just writing oscar worthy songs.

Speaker 1 9:10

But just always someone just does a little bit, I feel like she was making them for big movies and then suddenly went I'm just gonna make. She was trying really hard like I'm gonna make them for you know, like the big, the big, like important oscar bait type, and then that's where she kind of fell off a bit. Everything after those major ones are. I'm like I've never heard that song before.

Speaker 3 9:29

There's no way. She did not think she was gonna win with how Do I Live Without you?

Speaker 1 9:32

And then Celine Dion comes out of nowhere. The previous year that Con Air was involved, we've probably talked about this, but Go the Distance from Hercules and my Heart Will Go On from. Titanic In my Heart Will Go On from.

Speaker 3 9:42

Titanic, which was the winner that year, and Leigh-Anne Ryan's song is better than both of those.

Speaker 1 9:47

I don't know, corey, we shouldn't question the obvious integrity of the Oscars. But yeah, so yeah, 16-time loser.

Speaker 2 9:55

That's wild, I can't imagine. But man, it is a good soundtrack. It's a good soundtrack.

Speaker 1 9:59

It's a solid soundtrack Corey, talk about your time watching the movie, because we've heard Ali's coming-of-age story. What about yours?

Speaker 3 10:07

I genuinely don't remember the first time.

Speaker 1 10:08

I watched it. It just happened to pop in.

Speaker 3 10:09

I might have saw it in theaters, like probably shortly after, like maybe my cousin like told us we needed to see this Because that would have been around the time I was going to the Durant movie theater a lot, so I bet to remember it.

Speaker 1 10:25

This was definitely one of the late. No, this was middle school. I think Late elementary, early middle school for our range and it was definitely. It was a song that was played at middle school dances and if that song came on, it's the slow song, and that song in particular is one where you're like I gotta find the girl.

Speaker 3 10:39

I have a go dance with her to this song. I was so bad at middle school dances, I was terrible.

Speaker 2 10:44

I don't even want to get into it.

Speaker 3 10:46

I didn't want to go Because I don't know how Ardmore was or San Diego was, but in Durant, Oklahoma, they always played the Dance by Garth Brooks, which is a song about breaking up.

Speaker 1 10:56

Oh yeah, it's a weird mix of country music like the late 90s, early 2000s pop your Britney's, your Backstreet, your NSYNC's and stuff, and then yeah, then they throw in like the come on, ride the train.

Speaker 3 11:07

You know ride it the Cotton Eye, joe song, yeah, cotton Eye.

Speaker 1 11:09

Joe and you just run around and you're like swinging around like you're at a hoedown or something.

Speaker 3 11:13

I just remember every dance I ever went to the Garth Brooks the floor you guys got to make out what was it is like 1998 no, we were probably outside smoking, it was not allowed, and so yeah, I wasn't allowed

Speaker 3 11:27

I told every girl I ever danced with to that song, like this song's about breaking up, like I'm thinking I'm giving an interesting fact and like observation, and they're just like oh, that's romantic cory that's so deep and interesting and dark they're're just like oh. Profound. They just wanted the dance to be over. At that point they're just like oh, this guy.

Speaker 2 11:48

We had no country songs at our middle school dances. That was not at all.

Speaker 1 11:51

Was there more of a Latin flavor at your dances?

Speaker 2 11:53

I mean we would play like Gasolina and stuff like that and things around that around those types of songs, a lot of Pitbull, perhaps Sean Paul Kira. I know that, yeah, by Usher was a big one.

Speaker 1 12:02

Well, that's not.

Speaker 2 12:02

Latin.

Speaker 3 12:03

No, I know it's not Latin. I'm trying to think of songs. They were just actually doing club music, Right?

Speaker 2 12:06

they were just playing hits. It really was like we did the whole, like to the window, to the wall, like I mean the whole bunch of oh, skeet, skeet, skeet, skeet.

Speaker 1 12:19

Do you know what that means, sir?

Speaker 3 12:21

Yeah, that was definitely like me and my friends thought it would be like always thought it's funny to go out in the middle of the dance floor and just bend over Because someone is going to just start humping you. Like that's how we dance, obviously. We just thought it was hilarious to go out there and just, and then someone's going to start humping you and you're like look, I'm dancing and so, oh my gosh, how about?

Speaker 2 12:46

So Armageddon, armageddon, armageddon, released in 1998 A runtime of 151 Epic minutes.

Speaker 1 12:50

It's a long action movie. It is a long movie. Well, it's directed by the Michael Bay Of Bayhem, notable films that You've all heard of them Bad Boys, the Rock, pearl Harbor, the Transformers series we didn't talk about, written by Jonathan Henslay, who did Die Hard with a Vengeance, and the 2004 Punisher.

Speaker 3 13:03

Dang. He did the second best Die.

Speaker 1 13:04

Hard he did. And then this guy who did, according to Corey, one of the better Mission Impossibles a Star Trek reboot and some knockoff Star Wars thing, jj Abrams, but anyway moving on Mission Impossible 3 is the best Mission Impossible I don't know.

Speaker 3 13:17

Corey Hands down, it's Mission Impossible 2. Don't deny it. Oh my gosh, John Woo's career never recovered.

Speaker 1 13:25

Or did it. He went back home, he said I can do no better.

Speaker 3 13:28

I returned to my homeland, made by American Fantasy. Yes, that's right, it's not face-off, it's Mission Impossible 2.

Speaker 1 13:34

Produced by Jerry Bruckheimer. Pirate's Fame and National.

Speaker 3 13:37

Treasure Bruckheimer and Don Censor right.

Speaker 1 13:40

Cinematography John Schwartzman. He did Seabiscuit, amazing Spider-Man and Jurassic World.

Speaker 2 13:45

Interesting okay.

Speaker 1 13:47

This was definitely that moment in time, if it wasn't already cemented that this was the Bayham style. Like this movie is not minimalism, it's maximalism to its full potential. Everything's big, every shot is full of just as much shit as possible.

Speaker 3 14:06

It's wild.

Speaker 1 14:06

I mean because he's coming off like what the Rock and Con Air, like he's just done two Nicolas Cage action movies, because he did both of those right, yeah, man, he did two of the Holy Trinity man, he did that's impressive.

Speaker 3 14:11

Alright, anyways, but those are still. It's like those are guys with guns shooting at each other. Right, this is. Someone gave him a budget and he just spent it on explosives. He's just like it's one thing when the asteroids are coming down and hitting New York City and like cars and taxis are exploding, but then when it hits Tokyo, and it's just a seaside town of huts, I don't know why those huts are exploding.

Speaker 1 14:36

Because they're full of explosives, Corey.

Speaker 3 14:40

I mean, you're kind of like is he implying that they're all just cooking drugs in these huts? Because I don't know why it hit that grass, or just like bamboo hut, and that bamboo hut just was a mess.

Speaker 1 14:50

It just blew up. Listen, those mud houses, corey. They're compacted really tight okay. The smallest flame would just send them up like a cinder, corey.

Speaker 3 14:58

But it's just. I mean, someone had to have said that on set and he's just like whatever, just blow it up, yeah, I mean, I think that was most of this movie, though being honest I think that was his entire mindset throughout.

Speaker 2 15:06

The entire thing was man. Whatever it doesn't make sense, we're going with it anyway.

Speaker 1 15:09

So to correct you, he only directed one of the cage trilogy. Oh, simon west directed con air. He directed the rock, the rock and bad boys before that and then moved on to armageddon, pearl harbor, bad boys 2. That's's his late 90s to 2000 run.

Speaker 3 15:25

Why am I just realizing he did Pearl Harbor?

Speaker 2 15:27

I remember him doing Pearl Harbor, but when did that come?

Speaker 1 15:32

out. Pearl Harbor came out in 2001.

Speaker 3 15:34

Okay, so just a couple years later. So he rode this Armageddon money for a minute. He did.

Speaker 1 15:39

He saw Saving Private Ryan after this and said I could do that, but he didn't.

Speaker 3 15:45

He's like. I can do this. He's like. You know what he was watching. Saving Private Ryan leaned over to his wife and said nothing's exploding in this movie.

Speaker 1 15:52

Not enough explosions. Tom Hanks should have used a bazooka on that tank at the end. Why this is a waste?

Speaker 3 15:58

He's like I can do this better, so I should bring this up, though I watched them film part of this movie.

Speaker 1 16:03

Did you?

Speaker 3 16:04

Yes, it was there's like in one of the montages you know two montages of just like the world happening. It's like when the president is talking and then once when it's over.

Speaker 1 16:15

Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 16:16

During the presidential speech, I think, or it might be.

Speaker 1 16:19

There's a presidential speech, there's the, you know, the end of the second act, when all hope is lost and they think they've lost the first armadillo. And then there's the victory. It might have been during the. All hope is lost when the sirens are going. Okay, gotcha.

Speaker 3 16:30

There is a Coca-Cola sign on the side of a building.

Speaker 1 16:33

Okay.

Speaker 3 16:33

That is Sanger Texas. That is Bolivar Street in Sanger Texas.

Speaker 1 16:36

Okay.

Speaker 3 16:45

And that's where my cousins lived. But we like read in the newspaper when I was like 10 that they were filming a part of a Bruce Willis movie in town, so we like went there of course, like thinking we're gonna see Bruce Willis and it's just like two guys in a camera like, and they're just out like getting b-roll of the square and saying your Texas, and we're like where's Bruce Willis? Can you imagine?

Speaker 1 17:00

those two. They're just like the c team of the film. They're like gotta go.

Speaker 3 17:03

It's like the third unit guys I just got sent out just thinking like it'll be a nice day out.

Speaker 1 17:07

We'll just get this nice, nice shot. Then the whole town shows up like where's bruce?

Speaker 3 17:11

it's definitely just me and my cousins we're like so when is old.

Speaker 1 17:15

When's he gonna be here? When's john mclean showing up?

Speaker 3 17:17

and so we just watched him film that and we're like this is stupid.

Speaker 1 17:20

But like, yeah, like it's, it's maximalism, like if they could have get, if they could get an american flag in a shot, they did oh, they did, they did, they did and if they were like michael bay was like if I could find a ridiculously large a space where I can shoot a large, wide lens thing of something we're gonna shoot there, why would I shoot in an apartment where they're staying out on on nasa grounds to prepare? No, they're gonna go out into the the hole of like a rocket, yeah, and do this whole makeout scene or or like the memorial for like the apollo missions or something like there's just spare no expense is the best way to put it he's romantic nick.

Speaker 2 17:50

He was telling a story with with explosions and and cgi I didn't even factor that in that there were, it's all shot in like big warehouses, like if there's it's extreme, like it's he, he got his paycheck and he went man center is kind of packed, it's, it's.

Speaker 3 18:06

It's only because it is compact.

Speaker 1 18:08

Yeah, I mean only because there's a ceiling on it they're like we can't make the office look like a football field and the rocket ships are.

Speaker 3 18:16

They're small. No, they're not that's a lie.

Speaker 1 18:18

They're huge. I've seen them cory. They are three football things at least.

Speaker 3 18:22

I'm just saying like the space the actors are in, football things at least. I'm just saying like the space the actors are in, it seemed at least sort of confined. I'm not dogging it.

Speaker 1 18:27

It's just an observation of like wow, this is just such a huge movie in terms of like they were, just like we're gonna shoot everything big.

Speaker 3 18:34

That was just the 90s man.

Speaker 1 18:35

Yeah, it wasn't simplistic yet, but it's also like it's also like a america focused like this asteroid's coming to earth to destroy earth, the entire world yeah and all we get is the american perspective on it. What does the president have to say? I don't know, we're gonna figure this out. It's like well, did japan have an opinion? China, russia?

Speaker 3 18:54

it is interesting because in the president's speech, like during the rocket launch, yeah, he literally says a joint venture and he names countries.

Speaker 1 19:01

Oh, that's true, but I'm like well, where are they? Well, where are they? There's no show of that. We do not see.

Speaker 3 19:06

Fritz, Like we only see one Russian guy.

Speaker 1 19:07

They are flying challengers. They pick up a Russian on the way. We get one cosmonaut, but no taikonauts, no, nothing else.

Speaker 3 19:12

I don't know if Canadians have a special astronaut.

Speaker 1 19:14

Canadianauts.

Speaker 3 19:15

Okay, mounties.

Speaker 1 19:18

Space Mounties.

Speaker 3 19:25

The coveted, the honorable space mounties. Oh, there's a scene that got cut where canada calls the president and says I have four space mounties ready for action. They said no, thank you, we'll call you if you need. Hey, this is the same president from the rock oh this implies that the rock and armageddon are a shared universe. So the same president and both presidents get a cool monologue.

Speaker 1 19:41

I could believe that. I could believe there's a bavers.

Speaker 3 19:42

So the Bavers Because it's the same president, and both presidents because it's a cool monologue.

Speaker 1 19:45

I could believe that. I could believe there's a Bavers, even with the Transformers stuff going on. It's believable, I just like it.

Speaker 3 19:49

I like that this president, in one like term, is like dealing with this hostage situation on Alcatraz that's going to biologically wipe out San Francisco. Billy Bob Thornton's calling him like hey, there's a Texas-sized asteroid.

Speaker 1 20:03

He's like damn it. We got one more job for you, but okay. So it's a big movie from our childhoods and teenage years and stuff. Do you guys think it is a good movie? Yes, Objectionably.

Speaker 2 20:17

Absolutely.

Speaker 3 20:18

Okay.

Speaker 2 20:18

I genuinely believe this is a. Yeah, it has some silly moments and yeah, it has cheesy moments, but overall I mean I truly do believe this is a a good movie. And apparently I was reading that michael bay thinks it's his worst film, and I'm like brother, absolutely not I mean, the island exists and I've never seen it.

Speaker 1 20:35

The transformers, all the transformer sequels, are his worst movies.

Speaker 2 20:38

Yeah I agree, yeah, and so it's just. It's crazy that it's kind of like uh spielberg with hook, where he thinks that's his worst film, and it's like whoa hey, which I'm not at all comparing just for the record, hook and armageddon, those are I mean, those are different. They're both great movies, they're both fine, but yeah I would argue this is a is a well-made movie that has a lot of heart and yeah I like it, cory I.

Speaker 3 20:58

I think it's a good movie. It wouldn't shock me if, like, someone wrote this script in the 50s during like the alien space, you know, like yeah because it's it reads like that it's like these astronauts. We're gonna send him to space and it's a driller and he's gonna drill a hole.

Speaker 1 21:10

We could send our boys up there.

Speaker 3 21:11

It's working class, you know and so, and it's just like someone. You wouldn't shock me if someone said someone wrote this in 1957. They're like we can't make this, this is ridiculous then someone found it and dusted off in the 90s and said, oh, we can make this now. Michael bay just found the technology to do this now. But like it, to me it's like a really, really excellently made b movie that's fair.

Speaker 1 21:32

It's a disaster?

Speaker 3 21:32

it is, but it's just too good to be called a b movie.

Speaker 1 21:35

Yeah that's fair because, like the dialogue, re-watching it today, like the dialogue is nothing like to really like stand out and there's moments you're kind of like that's kind of cheesy, but at the same time a lot of the delivery works, or it's like it's in the moment. Things are happening so quickly and it's like a joke here, joke there, and just going so quickly enough that you don't have time to really dwell on it I think that the movie.

Speaker 3 21:55

I will say that I do think the movie's too long yeah, because I do think there are scenes where you're like I don't know how this didn't end up on the cutting room floor well, it takes them over an hour to to take off to space, to stop the asteroid honestly, I think the first hour is the best part of the movie. Like I like it. I like all this part, you know, and so, uh, I like all the build-up but, like okay, so the animal cracker scene is is really cheesy it's very cheesy and it's cheesy and it's fine.

Speaker 3 22:19

The only problem I have with it is live tyler's line. Do you think anyone else in the world is doing this right now?

Speaker 1 22:24

It's very forced.

Speaker 3 22:24

Sexualizing animal crackers during foreplay. What kind of question?

Speaker 1 22:28

is that we transitioned hard. It's kind of like the scene in Titanic, where when they're flirting and suddenly there's this weird awkward moment and she takes his art pamphlet and goes what is it? What even is this? And she starts looking through these are pretty good, you're like, well, that came out of left field.

Speaker 3 22:42

Yeah, yeah, but we had to get there. It's just. I mean, the scene's fine until they try to make it serious with that line. I'm like, oh, we needed a better line, because nobody in the world is doing this, but you two.

Speaker 1 22:54

That's what he should have said.

Speaker 3 22:54

He said sexualizing animal crackers, no one said let's drive out into the country and have sex, but let's pick up some animal crackers on the way.

Speaker 1 23:00

Because you know you're at the gas station trying to find something I guess I'm cooking.

Speaker 3 23:05

You know Can't be in the bag, though it's got to be in the circus box Gummy bears.

Speaker 1 23:07

They were out of gummy bears. It's got to be in the circus.

Speaker 3 23:10

The circus carton box. You really want to get it going. Part of me like I would love it if someone researched this ad-lib sure, sure, yeah, that's all they had on set.

Speaker 1 23:24

You know they were gonna have something else, you know does anybody have? Anything like I got some animal crackers.

Speaker 3 23:28

Damn it we'll have to do because my problem is within like 10 minutes we have the engagement scene which is happening in the thruster of a rocket, somewhere you know, and bruce willis is like watching them about to do it he didn't want to miss a thing oh my, he's like very sexually kissing his daughter's shoulders and he's like stifling. He's like that's gross, but he lingers a little too long.

Speaker 1 23:49

Like to see where it's going For a guy that was ready to kind of kill, like shoot the dude at the beginning of the movie.

Speaker 3 23:54

Yeah, on her oil rig, mind you where he could have just engagement and the rocket thruster. You have the animal cracker sex, and then you have the leaving on a jet plane. We only needed like one and a half of those. Yeah, they really. They kind of it's like too many. Like I get it. They're in love and this is hard, you know, but come on, just say you hate, love Corey.

Speaker 3 24:18

I know, because it's a good it's, that's a good to me that was far more like oh yeah, yeah, get rid of animal cracker scene.

Speaker 2 24:31

Yeah, I'll agree, it's fine yeah I don't, I don't need it at all, it's just like it's.

Speaker 3 24:33

It doesn't do anything, I get it. They're in love. It's honestly just like y'all two are kinky yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 24:39

but I think there's like there's those scenes that are fun, like the montage of them. Training is fun, it just feels like they grabbed you and your friends got to go to NASA space camp for like a week and do all this stuff and they're like we're literally sending these guys into space.

Speaker 2 24:51

Yeah, and they're like putting them through, like the psychological tests and all that. It's so fun. There's some, there's some really great moments the dot test or whatever and he's like a woman with large breasts, a woman with medium, and you're just like oh my god, this one looks like you With breasts.

Speaker 1 25:08

With breasts Also. Just the round, like in the heist movie. They have the team up like bring the team together and this is just them the FBI government whoever's rounding up all his friends, them.

Speaker 2 25:30

they were all together, and then, and then you've got owen wilson riding a horse and a helicopter that's a great shot.

Speaker 3 25:32

That's a great shot. Every time I see that show, I'm like hell yeah, that's such a good show again for a character that does nothing.

Speaker 1 25:34

That is an incredible intro. Yeah, is it a proper use of old wilson who knows who's to say? But I think you have to have somebody like he's the first true death of the movie where you're like oh no, no, there's stakes and the collateral damage is involved.

Speaker 3 25:44

Okay, so you're bringing up an interesting point and honestly, I've seen this movie like 20 times and I think for the first time ever I had an issue with this movie because it's a big cast.

Speaker 2 25:53

It is.

Speaker 3 25:54

And they make even, like some of them get little sub stories.

Speaker 2 25:57

Like.

Speaker 3 25:57

Rockhound goes and borrows money because he doesn't believe in this mission. He's like we're all gonna die. So I'm gonna live up my last night on Earth and then I'm gonna go get the best seat to the end of the world, and so like he's, you know then, like sabotaging, he's got his own cool little thing. Chick has his cool little like subplot where it's like he has.

Speaker 3 26:13

he's like obviously lost his wife. He's kind of a gambling addict and you know, and have subplots we care about, like I care about bear, I care about max yep, and I care about owen wilson.

Speaker 1 26:30

It's like the death that impacts me the most in this movie, for some reason, is owen wilson. You're like man, he has such a good attitude, yeah, like he was like such a heart of gold. He was there for it. You could see him becoming an astronaut.

Speaker 3 26:34

Yeah, yeah he was like the guy was like the most kind of like excited like weirdly type of thing. And then, dude, there's an entire character in the group that we he like, says two words the whole time and I'm like, why is he in this movie?

Speaker 2 26:46

in the noonan his name's noonan. I know who you're talking about.

Speaker 1 26:49

Yeah, he's part of the oil rig team. Yeah, you're not even sure he's in the movie.

Speaker 3 26:52

This is my point, I can't remember who he is.

Speaker 2 26:54

I was thinking it was one of the astronauts that didn't have anything to say never mind.

Speaker 3 26:59

Well, there's a few of the astronauts like there's gruber and then gruber dies at the end and, you know, noon there's literally an entire oil rig character that I don't even think we get to. Maybe we see him in the montage and get picked up. He asked he's the guy that, when they're doing their demands, asked for, like two women, to be made citizens. No questions asked oh yeah he has no picture on imdb. I just don't know who this guy is and he dies in the rocket ship.

Speaker 1 27:22

Highly forgettable, like there's no, there's no.

Speaker 3 27:25

Like I see, I know him from nothing it's the first time I think I've ever like concentrated on the fact that there's one of the oil rig guys was like, oh, we don't care about this guy at all he is a red shirt. He dies in the same like the crash with owen wilson and everyone's focused on oh, and we're like yeah, looking at owen wilson's bloody battered face, we're like oh man and like Noonan's, yeah, he just dies.

Speaker 3 27:47

Oh my gosh, I almost like wonder if it's like he was a backup, Like the original guy they called to be their 12th dude just didn't answer and they're like who's that new guy on the rig?

Speaker 1 27:54

He's fine. Ben Affleck vouches for him. He's like his college, not college. Ben Affleck does great in this movie. By the way, he does really well in this movie. He does so good. I don't want to say it does bad in this movie. But it takes them a minute to get into the movie because in the first act it feels like they're sleepwalking. It's Bruce. Bruce is kind of sleepwalking through a lot of the exposition. It's not even that he's doing the John McClane thing. I'm too good for this. It feels a little bit like he's like it's almost like he did the movie as a favor and he's just kind of like I don't know. And then as he gets into the movie he's like okay, alright, I could dig into this. Alright, I found the character.

Speaker 2 28:34

I think that's fair. I think that's a fair assessment.

Speaker 1 28:35

There's just a lot of that exposition stuff, like when he shows up to NASA and Billy Bob Thornton's trying to. He's like you know I've already been apologized to for the last 18 hours. You know, let's just get on with it, kind of thing.

Speaker 3 28:46

I think it's just like there's just a lot of that kind of one-liner dialogue in the first half of the movie. So it's just like everyone's lines are weighty you know, and so it's just like it feels like a lot of people are. But yeah, I get what you're saying.

Speaker 1 29:08

And maybe it's just because bob is like he's. I didn't. I was wondering how much billy bob was in the whole movie and he's in it from like the beginning, yes, through all the way to the end. But then, yeah, bruce willis comes in, he's, and he's like our exposition dump. Billy bob is, but also like we get his little backstory of like he was an astronaut, he got hurt, he can't go up and he wants to go up and that what is what motivates bruce willis's character. Like give ben affleck the patch. He's like, give this to him, it's when you get back, kind of thing. Yeah, but he does a really good job just being like the nasa for being. He also is he's billy bob thornton, like he has a hick accent, you know he's probably not far off from sling blade and he's playing a nasa like head of the department and you're just believable what's weird is he could have just been bruce willis's character and we would have just been fine with it.

Speaker 1 29:40

Yeah, we would be fine with that too. He has an actual texas accent, right rather than like kind of which.

Speaker 3 29:44

Like, uh, billy bobs or not billy bobs, bruce's is more like.

Speaker 1 29:49

It's not even like texas, it's more like kentucky kind of yeah, it's like more like appalachian south, yeah kind of accent maybe it's florida, I don't know so it's it's.

Speaker 2 29:59

It's an interesting accent, it is it is for sure billy bob also did a phenomenal job. I feel like in this movie he was great Well there's a lot of like those.

Speaker 1 30:05

I wouldn't I wouldn't even call them character actors, but there's just like they're not a list actors, but like you see them pop up. Keith David pops up, you know, jessica Steen who plays like the co-pilot like she's.

Speaker 2 30:19

You're just like hell yeah.

Speaker 1 30:21

She's like if I kick you in the balls, what's going to happen?

Speaker 2 30:23

Michael Clarke Duncan. It's so good I go into space, that's right.

Speaker 1 30:27

You go into space. But even William Fichtner does great in his role man, I Nails it.

Speaker 3 30:33

Anytime William Fichtner ever comes on any screen. I'm like man. I love William Fichtner. He's just a grip. He's a very intense, he's so the dark knight. When he shows up like heat, like every you're like, you're. Suddenly he's one of those guys that it's like a sam rockwell. He immediately adds like legitimacy to a movie. Yeah, oh my gosh, I love. I said it last night when I was watching this. I was like, oh, willing fingers, he's so good.

Speaker 1 30:54

But even like will patton, like he's one that doesn't get talked about a lot. He's the one that plays chick uh, but remember the titans.

Speaker 3 30:59

Any movie he's, he's always that like. He's always the second guy, he's always the dude to the lead.

Speaker 1 31:07

They all do their roles very well, even though it's like now they're all not everybody knows their names, but they recognize a lot of them. There's very few people that didn't go on to do more work after this Just Noonan. Maybe Max.

Speaker 2 31:20

Max was in that DCOM movie Under Wraps, and I remember when, I watched it for the first time and I was like oh that's the dude, but he's also Santa in Home Alone, isn't he? Yeah?

Speaker 1 31:28

that's right. Whenever we go in, whenever we go in, max shows up.

Speaker 2 31:32

He just shows up in a lot of comedic small things.

Speaker 3 31:34

Yeah, he's just one of those. He's that guy, yeah.

Speaker 1 31:46

Ken Campbell's his name. Some real quick other tidbits the movie, the budget was 140 million damn and it made 553.7 million worldwide success, nailed it, you know, end of the world, everybody. It came out two months after, or two months or two weeks after, deep impact.

Speaker 3 31:53

Remember, this is one of those dual twin movies yeah, that we talk about all the time. There had to be like four in this year alone, probably because this was the disaster movie era. Yeah, they were given like how do we destroy the planet?

Speaker 1 32:02

they filmed a lot of it on, uh, the culver city lot and in the disney studios lots they dug in under, I guess they dug into the earth to like create the whole ravines of the of the asteroid and stuff. But they also gave them like three more million more dollars I think because a deep impact to go shoot some stuff like in london and stuff which they put in the trailer to make it feel big and epic.

Speaker 3 32:21

because, michael bay's, there's not enough explosions, I need New York to fall apart Again, though it is wild that, like they sent people all around the world and someone said Sanger, Texas, yeah.

Speaker 1 32:30

Well, what's wild was like watching the opening sequence in New York and like there's all these characters that we will never see again. There's a whole sequence where I can't falling into the hole. The Empire State Building literally gets its head locked off.

Speaker 3 32:43

Who's the comedian? That's the cab driver I was just wondering the same thing I forget his name. It was like he had to show something with Mr Cooper, I don't know, but he was like a pretty big comedian in the 90s.

Speaker 1 32:55

Mark Curry.

Speaker 3 32:57

Is that him?

Speaker 1 32:58

Is that him?

Speaker 3 33:00

Because, yeah, he Because, yeah, he's like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's weird that he's in a scene.

Speaker 1 33:03

Yeah, they just there's. There's so many like and then like even in the NASA headquarters like, there's that character actor that's always in movies like this and he's talking to Billy Bob Thornton.

Speaker 3 33:11

I'm like he popped up, I was like, of course, that guy's in the guy that signed the wonders, that thing you do. That's right In his camper. It's that guy. It's that guy, oh my gosh. Well, then you have Jason Isaacs as well like explaining the firecracker and the hand and all that man. He does incredible.

Speaker 2 33:29

See.

Speaker 3 33:29

He's great. His one scene's awesome.

Speaker 1 33:32

Just imagine you put your hand in the firecracker.

Speaker 2 33:34

It's so good and the way that he like I don't know the way he delivers those lines is just fantastic.

Speaker 3 33:39

Absolutely, absolutely, corey do you want some useless critic stats? Dude, give them to me, because I think I messed up.

Speaker 1 33:45

I'm just trying to like, you're just trying to catch up, trying to figure it out, questioning life.

Speaker 3 33:48

I just hate it when I say things that are wrong on this podcast. Oh, never mind, I wasn't wrong. Mark Curry was the guy from Hanging with Mr Cooper.

Useless Critic Stats

Speaker 1 33:54

There you go, there you go. I didn't want't worry Nick Riff for a bit useless critic stats. So for IMDB, gives it a 6.7 out of 10.

Speaker 2 34:09

Rotten Tomatoes a critic of 38% the audience audience score is 73% you just don't understand art.

Speaker 1 34:19

Metacritic got 42 out of 100 for the critics, 6.7. Also for followers, which is just 67%. I don't know why they do that.

Speaker 3 34:28

Letterboxd is allegedly 2.8 oh well, letterboxd is a bunch of cinephiles. It's becoming that way. We're getting there. We gotta get more regular.

Speaker 1 34:37

We gotta get some movie people on there. We gotta get some. But speaking of which, our scores. Ali gives it a 4, I gave it a 4. Cor, you have not rated it. I'm going to shame you for your lack of time on Letterboxd.

Speaker 3 34:49

Is that at a five Out of five, because I'm not a cinephile and every time I get on Letterboxd I just see things that make me mad.

Speaker 1 34:53

It's okay, corey because Ash hasn't scored it either. On there. Taryn has given at all armageddon. It's out of five. Is that out?

Speaker 3 35:10

of five out of five. Out of five, I'd give it four, four, okay, all right, fours across the board pretty solid.

Speaker 1 35:12

It's a solid, strong, great movie there. I've locked it in. Okay, I bullied cory into using his letterbox um roger ebert guesses.

Speaker 2 35:18

Guesses for score.

Speaker 3 35:19

Guesses for score cory, it's out of four. Right, it's out of four.

Speaker 1 35:22

Yeah, right it's out of four.

Speaker 3 35:23

Yeah, he's such an enigma.

Speaker 1 35:24

I don't know, I know.

Speaker 3 35:27

The safe thing is just to go two man Okay, two, two.

Speaker 1 35:29

Do I hear more?

Speaker 2 35:30

I'm gonna give it a 2.5 2.5, 1.5 out of four stars.

Speaker 1 35:35

His quotes, biggest quotes. The movie is an assault on the eyes, the ears, the brain, common sense and the human desire to be entertained. No matter what they're charging to get in, it's worth more to get out.

Speaker 3 35:43

It's a movie, damn it. What are you cops? He just said, being entertained's a minus.

Speaker 1 35:49

This is the same man who will go watch a horror movie and be like this is great, this is cinema.

Speaker 3 35:54

It's like they both are. That's what I'm saying they are.

Speaker 1 35:57

I'm like, why are you hating on the Disaster Bee movie over here?

Speaker 3 36:01

I swear, being a critic is just how you felt that week about life.

Speaker 1 36:05

Oh, 100% and probably what you watched before that. He probably watched like On Golden Pond or something before that and was like this doesn't match up and that's the other dumb thing is these guys would sit in movie theaters and watch like five movies a day and it's like yeah, at some point there's gotta be a palate cleanser in.

Speaker 1 36:23

Oh for four Academy Awards for sound effects and original song Didn't win any of them, but it did win the MTV for best music video for a song for Aerosmith. There's some justice there. I mean, it was that kind of movie, it was a blockbuster movie. As we've learned with the Oscars blockbusters they don't care about.

Speaker 3 36:42

No, they do not. There was a time where MTV Movie Awards was like what normal people watched, it was our normal people. Oscars it was. It went away and now we have nothing.

Speaker 1 36:50

I'm so mad, like you used to get excited about it. Oh yeah, Like you'd see who's going to host. They'll do fun skits and stuff, like it was the who's going to perform at it. Yeah oh, we used to be a society, corey, oh man, and now we've got all these pretentious people at the Oscars telling us what movies are.

Speaker 3 37:14

We're just asking celebrities what their four favorite movies are for. Letterboxd, that's right.

Speaker 1 37:20

That Schindler's List, the Godfather one or two, or they cheat, go both.

Speaker 3 37:24

Oh my gosh, you know what the Letterboxd videos I think are hysterical. I send them to Nick every day. If I see one, I'm like, check out this one, because it's so like. And they also always go.

Speaker 1 37:37

Oh, let me think about it, I'm like well, you clearly don't have a Letterboxd, because if Letterboxd be like, I was fearing this moment. It's like then you had time, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 37:43

You knew about it and it's like, oh, because you just want to sound smart right now, that's what it is. You're like thinking like, ah, breathless.

Speaker 1 37:49

There's a 1972 Argentio movie.

Speaker 2 37:54

It's so bad, I will say, oh sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 3 37:56

Every time someone says Breathless.

Speaker 1 38:05

I just want to punch my phone Breath shitty french new wave movie.

Speaker 3 38:06

I'd watch it for a film class, cory, it's a movie podcast. We're losing listeners. All french new wave was bad other than 400 blows. That was the only.

Speaker 1 38:10

Okay, okay, all right hot tick or not hot tick, who knows?

Speaker 3 38:14

who knows?

Speaker 1 38:15

well, any other thoughts?

Speaker 3 38:15

wait, were you gonna say something.

Speaker 2 38:17

Yeah, were you gonna say, I am gonna be completely oh yeah, I have seen an uptick though in the letterboxd one like top fours of people like giving normal movies like I saw bennett, like beckham those are the ones I said nick.

Speaker 3 38:26

I'm like, hey look, this person didn't try to impress somebody yeah exactly like the team for godzilla minus one.

Speaker 1 38:31

This is just naming, like the matrix back to the future.

Speaker 2 38:34

I'm like I want to party back to the futures on my top four.

Speaker 3 38:36

So my top four is like literally all within four years of each other, like between 85 and 89 that's fair nice so my letterbox would just be. Disappoint those people so bad that's what's honestly gonna be.

Speaker 1 38:47

It like your favorite movies are gonna more than likely be like movies that molded you or shaped you in those formative years, and then you'll find like a movie where it's like wow, that was just a really good movie and I really like that.

Speaker 3 38:56

And it's hard to like compare it to something that is so meaningful to you as a kid as a teenager as a college or high schooler it's my dream to be asked by those people, just so I can say satan most fire, the lost boys, barry, gordy, slash, dragon and parenthood, and they're like that's literally from 85 to 89 and you're like yep, yeah, I know my let me ask you a real important question, though, guys is is this movie the reason that aerosmith had a longer run? With a lot of reason. There's a lot of reasons for Aerosmith that had a longer run Okay.

Speaker 1 39:25

It's like their career died multiple times. Right, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 39:28

Like it didn't really survive the 70s, but then Run DMC saves their asses.

Speaker 1 39:32

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 39:33

And then they write their best albums through the 80s because of hair metal, yeah, this song hates grunge. I just think grunge is just overrated it's whatever and so um, but yeah, like this song definitely gave them way more life it did well.

Speaker 1 39:49

I just feel like it was like you had like yeah, you had your 70s run. It seemed like they got more popular in the 80s. You got love and elevator things like that.

Speaker 1 39:56

They were dead on arrival until run dhc said like we're gonna, we've talked about all these videos with alicia silverstone and his daughter live in them and they those were moderate hits. But then this one like blew it, blew it out of the water. And then you get songs like jaded in the early 2000s, the thing they followed this up with a really stupidly strong album yeah, just push play so like they, they somehow find found new life.

Speaker 3 40:16

My favorite thing is there's always been a weird rivalry between aerosmith and kiss. Okay, it's just like whatever. It's like they came up at the same time and they're just like whatever. And they're always compared as like those quintessential 70s classic rock bands. And so Kiss hired Diamond Rain to write them a song. Oh, yeah. They were like we need a hit. We need a hit Because they were pissed that Aerosmith got a number one song, because that's their only number one song ever.

Speaker 1 40:51

It's the only bands that kind of had new music coming out that was actually top 40 like listed. Like I was listening to it as a kid growing up and I'm going like, yeah, that's the new aerosmith song that's interesting.

Speaker 2 41:01

I don't really have an opinion because, I'll be honest, I don't really know the history of aerosmith. Um, I never my dad never listened to them. I never really listened to them until this song came out, and then this was one of the first songs I learned on guitar my mom, my mom's on a first name basis, was steven tyler, so I went with gory to his aerosmith concert.

Speaker 1 41:16

Interesting, yeah, we saw them, and so it was fun because they played here in duray and you and you and you start listening to the songs and I was like I know a couple of their songs and then you're like, oh yeah, they did that song. Oh yeah, I know a lot more Aerosmith songs than I thought.

Speaker 2 41:29

See, maybe I need to pull them up on my Spotify and listen to them.

Speaker 3 41:31

I stood next to my dad and watched my mom kiss Steven Tyler on the mouth.

Speaker 2 41:34

And I was just like this is weird, oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 41:38

So I was just like all right, whatever, I don't know it's just being cucked by Steve. You start thinking about like all the times my dad's made jokes about like that. I'm not really a son, because all my family's blonde and I have black hair and like nothing. I'm the black sheep, I'm like so are you live Tyler's secret.

Speaker 1 41:53

Tyler, Like my dad we're learning a lot today on the podcast, oh my goodness. Well, do you have any other thoughts guys?

Speaker 3 42:09

before we start talking about like casting. I think we've covered a lot, but we can cover, we can continue to cover more as we're casting, obviously. Yeah, I, I don't know, I do, I, I my, I guess my question is this like the best disaster movie.

Speaker 2 42:15

I I this is a tough one for me, because I do really enjoy disaster movies, um, but I, I, I really do love this one.

Speaker 1 42:21

I love this more than deep impact we got to define what a disaster movie is. Well, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 42:26

I was looking it up earlier because I was curious about what other disaster movies have come out since then and I went on Wikipedia, which don't judge me, but it broke it down into alien invasions and then natural disasters and it broke it down that way and I was like I didn't really think about that, about disaster movies also being alien invasions, but it makes sense yeah, I I normally wouldn't put, I would just put that under sci-fi in its own kind of realm, because it's, it is a intelligent species doing something that's fair.

Speaker 3 42:52

I don't know, I'm kind of. My thing is this. I think, like when you get into like your independence days or your world of worlds, I would call them disaster movies, because it's like a, it's wiping out the planet, yeah, okay, type of thing. Yeah, you know and so, yeah, that's kind of where I'm like I would classify them. My other thing, though, is like I honestly sometimes think on like smaller scale though, because I'm like does the whole world have to be in danger? Yeah isn't twister, a disaster movie?

Speaker 1 43:15

don't we just watch tornadoes, just wreck shop? Isn't titanic a disaster movie? Yeah? Poseidon adventure yeah, that's one of my favorite movies. You've got got things like the Day After Tomorrow. Yeah, and 2012, which is this weirdly?

Speaker 3 43:26

underrated John Cusack disaster movie I need to re-watch that.

Speaker 2 43:29

I've watched that in theaters.

Speaker 3 43:30

I re-watched it recently. Is it solid? This is a good time.

Speaker 2 43:34

I'll have to watch it. And then Geostorm was also pretty good.

Speaker 1 43:37

Gerard.

Speaker 3 43:37

Butler.

Speaker 2 43:38

I liked that one, and then there was that newer one that came out moon, something, I can't remember what it was the moonfall or whatever which I did not like the moon's just gonna crash into us.

Speaker 3 43:47

It was very well, that's. That's emery. That was emery trying to capitalize again on on disaster movies.

Speaker 2 43:52

It was too much. It was too.

Speaker 1 43:53

But you, I, mean, yeah, like, and the disaster movie's been around for a while. Like cory pointed out, poseidon adventure towering inferno is one from the 70s volcano anybody remember tommy lee jones?

Speaker 3 44:02

there was acano Just comes up in LA.

Speaker 1 44:04

There were whole rides In Universal Studios About Earthquake and Volcano. I think, yeah, I remember the Earthquakes Dante's Peak, dante's.

Speaker 3 44:10

Peak.

Speaker 2 44:11

Volcano timeout. I was traumatized. From that scene In the tunnels, when the train stops and there's a bunch of men I don't recall it perfectly. There's a bunch of men and they have their little flashlights and they're trying to save the people on the train and that one dude picks up the woman and then he tries to jump over the lava and he doesn't make it and he just starts burning from the up and I mean and it's not.

Speaker 2 44:32

He's another character actor who's in like everything and I forget his name he was yeah, but oh my god he was in zodiac, I'm pretty sure okay it was that guy.

Speaker 1 44:40

Oh, like john krasinski's, like uncle, I don't remember that okay but it was traumatizing because, yeah, you got like natural disasters, volcanoes, earthquakes, tornadoes and then there's yeah, like you talk about, the aliens are one, and I keep seeing they keep bringing up stuff like invasion of the body, snatchers, and I don't think I would classify that living dead, like I feel like zombie has become its own yeah, I don't, I wouldn't consider that.

Speaker 2 44:59

It's kind of like alien.

Speaker 1 45:01

I mean, it is talking, it's like a thing that was happened because of like human fallacy and like error, but at the same time it's there's just a lot more going on I think a disaster movie is like based on the fuji sake scale right how much gets destroyed, okay, all right, all right, because it's like if we see tons of crap just getting destroyed, I think that counts, because in zombie movies it's all right, we've already destroyed everything.

Speaker 3 45:22

Yeah, we're post usually post it's a post disaster movie. Yeah, destroyed everything. Yeah, we're post usually post disaster movie.

Speaker 1 45:26

Yeah, the ones that take place during, like the initial outbreak, and those are often kind of enclosed like uh, harry's I don't know if you call it wreck or rec or whatever oh, yeah, that one's pretty intense it's so good, I watched it last year that's a good one. That is a good movie but do you consider something like the core a disaster movie? I guess it is.

Speaker 1 45:42

It's like it's like the in inverted uh, armageddon, like the earth's gonna blow up, or like stop spinning erin eckhart's in it, like they have to go into the, basically have to reignite the earth's core to like save everybody, it's okay. Hillary swank's in it, delroy lindo director joe emile I don't even know what this man has done, but yeah, disaster movies are like interesting because like they are b movies and I feel like in the 90s they got their big push between Titanic and Independence Day and even this Armageddon Deep Impact. You got a double whammy there.

Speaker 2 46:11

Yeah.

Speaker 1 46:12

And with the advent of CGI you don't get the impact of them as much. Now it's like well, we'll just make the volcano blow up in CGI and you're like, but that ruins half the movie.

Speaker 2 46:21

Yeah.

Speaker 1 46:22

You're not in it. You're not, it's not tangent, you can't reach out and the lava is not right there. It's just whatever, like. It's kind of like the problem with the Marvel movies Everybody talks about. It's like I'm just watching a video game and what they really mean is like there's no stakes or there's there's no believability that what I'm watching has any.

Speaker 3 46:43

I'm trying to think, ever since y'all talked about moonfall, there's some other piece of art where a moon crashes into a planet. I mean Star Wars that's how Chewbacca dies in the expanded universe he literally saves Han's son and throws him on the ship and leaves him in the moon, a way better.

Speaker 2 47:02

Actual death for Chewbacca. We don't need to get into it, nick, I'm gonna get triggered. Wait is Chewbacca. We don't need to get into it.

Speaker 3 47:07

Nick, I'm going to get triggered. Wait, is Chewbacca dead?

Speaker 2 47:08

No, no, I think he's dead for 30 seconds, for 30 seconds, and then they do it to like three or four other characters where they're like oh, they're dead, just kidding, it's so annoying, it's so annoying Because there's meetings in rooms where they're like.

Speaker 1 47:22

I hate JJ Abrams Anyway he made one good movie.

Speaker 3 47:26

He made one good movie Corey. Wait, what's the one good movie? It's Mission Impossible 3. Oh okay, I was like.

Speaker 2 47:31

I like Super 8. Wait, cloverfield. Oh, cloverfield is pretty solid, he didn't make Cloverfield.

Speaker 1 47:35

Who made Cloverfield?

Speaker 2 47:36

He produced Cloverfield, are you sure?

Speaker 1 47:37

I'm pretty sure Cloverfield Okay good job, matt Reeves.

Speaker 3 47:50

Don't you sully the name of Cloverfield with that Steven Spielberg hack.

Speaker 1 47:51

Corey, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Anyway, are you guys ready to cast this? I have one more question.

Speaker 3 47:55

Okay, and this goes back to my comment that this movie's too long and some stuff should have ended up on it. And I think the most Michael Bay scene, and I don't know what France did to him. It's just the random ass. We're in like the third act, we're about to blow this comet up and they're like, oh, some more meteor shower and Paris is gone it's been eviscerated there's that panning like shot of, like just fire and smoke, it goes back to the whole idea that I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 48:23

Like it's a very like, weirdly nationalist kind of movie, like America hoorah. Kind of movie, because, like everyone is inept, like oh, they helped a little bit, but we're not giving, we're not gonna show any credit yeah, from anybody else like they're lucky. They're lucky that he didn't blow up the world trade centers in that opening sequence oh, this movie would have been definitely a scene of them on fire oh yeah, I forgot about that, because you go I must have missed it.

Speaker 1 48:47

No, it's like it's after it it's and they're both there like on fire and you're like in, like the top third.

Speaker 3 48:52

I just saw, I just saw empire state fall and I was like damn, it's a good thing he didn't go for the towers oh my gosh, though it's, uh, it was wild, um, but like um, I but like that scene and it's, it's, it's been like my last 10 watches of it always bugs me, because hitting New York, that makes sense, that's driving the story. We are now looking in the sky for something, and then it hits Tokyo or it hits Japan and that's how the world finds out. But then we're like, an hour later, we're just like, and France is gone. I don't even know why another rock came in. It's like, nope, we're watching the sky, yeah, because there's a Texas-sized asteroid coming at us. And we're like France, france, like nobody. They can't call and say France, evacuate, because we're watching now.

Speaker 1 49:43

We think about too, like Earth's rotating, yeah, and what they were explaining in that like there was the whole asteroid belt got messed with, and that's where this, this yeah, it goes through an asteroid belt, yeah, sends a bunch of debris, so like the debris is coming through, so like if you're like rotating towards, like if you know like okay, we're in its window now, like that's probably telling you like I need to like buckle down or get out or whatever. But what can you do? Like the Earth's rotating, yeah, you don't know where the debris is gonna hit, when it's gonna hit, especially stuff that's small that's exactly what I was about to bring a massive rock just nails paris yeah, oh, it does, and I mean the whole city.

Speaker 3 50:13

And to me, I'm like this should have been on the cutting room floor, because it's like now, it's like pessimistic, it's like oh well, they didn't get there in time to save france oops, sorry, friends it felt like intentional that michael bay just crowbarred scene. In the end it's like I'm gonna take out paris why?

Speaker 1 50:30

why does america hate france? I don't know. It's very strange they seem delightful I just I hate french new wave. I mean I know I've heard like I know I've heard like the whole thing about like oh, they're rude and stuff, but it's like, yeah, you're americans, you're loud and annoying yeah, you're also a dick too, like you're the biggest dick in the world like most americans that I see when I'm traveling abroad, they just they don't really have respect for their surroundings and stuff, and everyone else is very quiet and respectful of each other.

Speaker 3 50:55

So I don't, I don't know I need a cinephile to tell me if france has made a disaster movie where america just gets wiped out.

Speaker 1 51:00

They're like another one, yeah because they've been allies since the revolutionary war. But the internet's saying that cultural differences, political disagreement and historical tensions have led to periods of friction. I'm like where French opposition to the Iraq War, yeah, Sounds like they're on the right side of history, guys.

Speaker 3 51:17

France really bailed us out of the Revolutionary War too, so they kind of came in.

Speaker 2 51:21

I'm cool with you, France.

Speaker 3 51:23

I am mad that you got wiped out in this movie. I, france, I. I am mad that you got wiped out in this movie.

Speaker 1 51:28

I thought it was dumb. It's a weird beat in the movie. It is it's way too late, apparently. Apparently it's a a playful hatred and rivalry towards each other, but I just, maybe we're just only seeing one half of it, but it doesn't seem very it doesn't see very one-sided, or yeah?

Speaker 3 51:38

they, they, they. It was, that was we had american fries and then they like they were against the war on terror, right, and that's when everyone started saying freedom fries for a minute.

Speaker 1 51:47

They said there were no Iraqi pilots on the planes that hit the World Trade Center. This doesn't make sense, oh damn. So they were sassy about it. They were sassy about it. Okay, I like it. I mean, I'm being sassy about it, Okay, hey whatever.

Speaker 3 51:56

Either way, France, we're with you. Vive la France. So yeah, that, yeah, that's all I wanted to bring up. It just upset me, that's fair. I just I was like I made that as a notice.

Speaker 2 52:10

Like I'm going to bring up why we just wipe out France like near the end of the movie. Cause, fuck them. That's why, Dang, I do have one question, I promise, and then we can cast no, go ahead, go ahead. Did either of you cry at the end?

Speaker 1 52:18

This time, or at didn't catch that. Um, no, like either any of the times, or did you at least like well, up a little bit? I'm just curious about the male perspective from the from growing up younger. Like it was a very large impact of a movie for me, like, I think, like it was the first like big epic kind of movie where you could insert yourself as like the character, whether it's bruce willis saving the world, kind of being a martyr, it's ben affleck and his romance with liv tyler, like there's plenty of different people in there where it's like, oh, I'd be him. It's the first time I watched a movie and was really like, oh, I'd be that guy or I'd be that guy Gotcha.

Speaker 2 52:50

Okay.

Speaker 1 52:51

So I think, yeah, I think there's a definite connection. I wouldn't say I like cried at the end, but you feel things.

Speaker 3 53:03

For sure, you feel things. Yeah, I think it just were parts of my life. I think the first time I watched it I cried. Okay, I mean like I don't like bawling but it was like that was emotional. I love my dad, like I'm like, I'm a big fan of my father, like my biggest fear in life is his death, you know, and so like it. Oh no, my dad. And this, that's something my dad would do. He would like kick my ass and throw me back in the pod and go blow himself up.

Speaker 3 53:31

And so that's a, that's a my dad kind of move. So I was like all right, I see it, I see that, and then, uh, it's a dad move, and I think I watched Armageddon during that period of time, like Kevin Hill, you know Kevin Hill and I think I watched it and I was like Kevin Hill would do this for me. I know he would.

Speaker 1 53:49

I'm damn proud of you. You took my daughter's hand.

Speaker 3 53:51

And I was just like he would totally do that.

Speaker 1 53:52

Is he class act? Yeah, I love you, kevin. And so like I think, watch it, you gotta watch it.

Speaker 2 54:07

No, it's on my. Whatever streaming service it's on, I've gotta add it to the list. It's in this realm. Oh so when I need to just cry, there's not the big romantic angle.

Speaker 3 54:15

That's not like a continuous thread through the whole movie but there is some aspect of it to get home to see his daughter that he's never met man and that's that's the thread yeah, okay and so, um, but yeah, so, but like it's weird because out of all the times I've seen this movie, those are only two times, because I was like I think the first time it's gonna get you the rest of I'm like not really, unless I'm just in a moment sure, sure and so do you cry every time?

Speaker 1 54:38

I?

Speaker 2 54:38

cry but it really doesn't take a whole lot to make me cry in a movie. I'm'm very sensitive and very emotionally like, I don't know, engaged or I guess, I'm just engaged in my emotions, and so, yeah, no, I cry every single time.

Speaker 1 54:51

But I think that speaks to the movie's effectiveness. Like we, all we all feel something on some level.

Speaker 2 54:55

This is true Absolutely.

Speaker 1 54:56

You know we joke about.

Speaker 2 55:01

Michael Bay and explosions mentioned earlier. It has a lot of heart.

Speaker 1 55:03

It does the heartbeat of america trying to think the hardest.

Speaker 2 55:06

I've ever cried in a movie oh, mine was mine was arrival I had a arrival, or the mist the most or the first time?

Speaker 3 55:12

I'm trying to think the most I've ever cried like the hardest I've ever cried in a movie say the rival, yeah, dude, that's one, the charlie sheen movie no, no, the one with amy adams, okay, I was like no arrival's, just a weird movie. No, from the 90s.

Speaker 2 55:27

No, I had like an existential crisis After that movie and was thinking about like, oh my gosh, I only see my parents once a year. I have this many years. It was bad. It was a really bad.

Speaker 3 55:37

It was the other one.

Speaker 2 55:38

The Mist, but I don't want to spoil it. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 55:40

But the Mist messed me up, the Mist pissed me off. I wrote Stephen King a letter, did you really, oh my gosh. Because the ending of his book's better and I was mad that he liked the ending of the movie.

Speaker 2 55:49

So I was like what the hell man?

Speaker 3 55:51

Don't support this. So, Armageddon, armageddon. Sorry, we're just having a moment, nick.

Speaker 2 55:55

We're trying to connect. Yeah, geez, Nick.

Speaker 1 56:01

I don't ever get to see Cory happens every once in a while and it's like the cloudy with a chance to get back in their tear.

Speaker 3 56:08

oh my gosh, I think I think walk to remember, messed me up.

Speaker 1 56:11

Oh, that's fair, that's a rough one, I think that one messed, I think.

Speaker 3 56:13

When I saw it I was like I don't know what was going on. But I think that one hit me hard I think I like had like a real bad breakdown after that, yeah, I don't think I've ever watched it again. That's fair.

Speaker 1 56:20

I was like I think things like it's a wonderful life or like, even hook, like, like, especially because those are types of movies that as you get older, like your perspective changes. You're no longer watching it from the kids viewpoint, you're watching it from robin's viewpoint or hook's viewpoint.

Speaker 3 56:34

It makes you think about stuff remember we went to the theater to watch southpaw yeah, I cried in southpaw but I was like shaking, well, we also would.

Speaker 1 56:40

That movie was just emotional you're just like.

Speaker 3 56:42

I haven't seen that either, that, and les and Les Mis. Oh, les Mis. Les Mis broke us. I saw Les Mis, we watched Anne. Hathaway on 50 feet of her face singing to us and I had just gotten dumped and Nick's like let's go to the movies.

Speaker 1 56:57

We could have watched my Bloody Valentine, but nope.

Speaker 3 56:59

Nope, Nick's like let's watch Les Mis, and I'm like this is why am I here, man, it's okay, there's something similar, because Nick Christie and I went to go watch everything everywhere all at once.

Speaker 1 57:07

right after mine I turned to look at them and go great movie right, and they're both bawling and ugly crying and I'm like I've made a mistake. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 57:14

If you're ever going through it, don't hang out with Nick.

Speaker 1 57:18

We're going to go watch Requiem for a Dream, guys. Have you heard of it? Schindler's Risk before right.

Speaker 3 57:23

Can we do Requiem for a Dream on this podcast? Can?

Speaker 2 57:25

we recast that? Oh gosh, that would be so dark. It's the only movie I've cast Jay Baruchel in.

Speaker 3 57:30

It's like I want to see Jay Baruchel go through it, man.

Casting

Speaker 2 57:34

Oh my gosh Lose an arm. Alright, okay, I'm ready, I'm ready. Oh, that's funny.

Speaker 1 57:42

So, like we said, corey, it's fast and loose season. We're just having fun, we're casting, we're casting. We all aren't picking like a particular year, right, so we're all going our own way.

Speaker 3 57:50

Yeah, I mean we're all just going to cast Armageddon in our own way. Cool, I did Titanic with Muppets.

Speaker 1 57:56

Right, and I told you you couldn't do Muppets twice, even though it's so easy. It's like the perfect template to start with. You're like well, that would be him and Rizzo and Gonzo.

Speaker 3 58:08

And by then you've got 30 people cast, and it's super easy. I'm going to request permission to read my Muppet list.

Speaker 1 58:14

Allie, what are you going to go with?

Speaker 2 58:17

So I initially had one idea that just shocked me yesterday at 11 pm and I thought it was genius. And then I woke up this morning and I was like I'm not a huge fan of this, so I made a backup list and. I am going with 2018 because I looked through our podcast, or the podcast and 2018, there's only one episode that you guys have recast in 2018.

Speaker 1 58:38

What is?

Speaker 2 58:38

that that's an excellent question that I should have been prepared for the Last Dragon.

Speaker 3 58:42

Oh, hell, yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 2 58:48

It was the Last Dragon All. Oh, hell, yeah, that's what it was. It was the last dragon guys.

Speaker 1 58:50

Wow, I did, I did all right, so you're gonna do 2018, I'm going 2018.

Speaker 3 58:52

Okay, cory what are you choosing to do? I made three lists for this movie okay so I'll let you tell me you want to hear a 1990 list or a 2025 list?

Speaker 1 58:59

that's tough um ali. What do you think what's more intriguing to you?

Speaker 2 59:04

well, I feel like, since this movie was made, I don't know I'm conflicted because since this movie was made, I don't know I'm conflicted Because since this movie, came out in 98.

Speaker 3 59:09

I'll do 90. That way we're not like crossing each other's toes.

Speaker 2 59:12

That's good. I was going to say there's two different ways we could.

Speaker 1 59:15

Well, I'm glad you both took it seriously, because I did something different. Yes, I am going to cast this movie with actors that have only appeared or are connected to the Adam Sandler verse oh heck, yes, the Billy Madison movies, the Billy. Madison movies, just anything Adam Sandler.

Speaker 3 59:29

Oh, okay, so you're even going beyond the Billy Madison version. Okay, yeah, we'll have some fun with it, I think. Happy Madison.

Speaker 2 59:33

Happy Madison.

Speaker 1 59:34

I stepped outside a little bit of it, okay.

Speaker 2 59:36

I'm excited.

Speaker 1 59:37

So yeah, so yeah.

Speaker 3 59:42

Rob Schneider, adam Sandler, anybody? No, no, no, no no, the characters Corey. Wait, I might have one.

Speaker 1 59:47

You might have cast Rob Schneider.

Speaker 3 59:48

No.

Speaker 1 59:49

Okay, all right, all right, all right. So I think I'm going to guess I have the most cast members Hold on.

Speaker 3 59:56

You want me to count? Yeah, count real quick, I have 14.

Speaker 1 1:00:06

Dude.

Speaker 2 1:00:07

I don't know how many I have. I have 15. Oh my god, I definitely don't have both of those.

Speaker 3 1:00:11

I'm curious who you thought belonged in the movie that I did not.

Speaker 1 1:00:14

Don't worry, guys, we'll get through this quickly, we promise.

Speaker 3 1:00:16

Yeah, because we don't. Well, there's no, there's no rules, there's no director, there's no incisive Nick, that's right, having a panic attack, it's not Ali, choosing between our cast list.

Speaker 1 1:00:25

We're all going to present a cast list and then you guys are free to go on our social media at Quantum Recast and tell us what you thought about the cast list or who was your favorite.

Speaker 3 1:00:31

Yeah, make your own. Yeah, or make your own, do a 1985 cast list yeah, so easy, why don't?

Speaker 2 1:00:34

you do it.

Speaker 1 1:00:44

Ruin a bottom of mine.

Speaker 3 1:00:45

You start at the bottom of yours and if we have it, we'll join in. We'll work our way up. That sounds good.

Speaker 1 1:00:50

So what I do have, and I'll just go from bottom to top I have the president for a quick cameo, thing that probably was not on your list.

Speaker 3 1:00:57

Wait, do we want to read the whole thing or I don't want to think?

Speaker 1 1:00:59

about a 2018 president to be honest.

Speaker 3 1:01:09

You would have handled that poorly. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 1:01:13

That's not up there. So my cinematic president and we're going somewhere in the early 2010s, probably 2010 to 2015,. Probably for this Adam Sandler verse.

Speaker 3 1:01:23

Really Okay, because he has to be old enough Spoiler he's Bruce.

Speaker 1 1:01:27

Willis' character Really Okay, cause he's has to be old enough, spoiler.

Speaker 3 1:01:29

He's Bruce Willis's character, so he's the lead, all right.

Speaker 1 1:01:30

So it's it's kind of like Muppets you pick your human and then you build them up.

Speaker 3 1:01:32

It's around. They just blew it.

Speaker 1 1:01:33

Well, anyway, I'm guessing everyone was going to guess it anyway, but we'll kicking off Henry Winkler.

Speaker 3 1:01:44

Oh, all right.

Speaker 1 1:01:45

Okay, that's a good one, I like that, yeah, he's going to be likable, but then he's going to kind of be unlikable when he decides to try to, you know, blow up the bomb before they start drilling fully.

Speaker 3 1:01:53

Because he's like the resident vet, yeah Of the Billy Madison.

Speaker 1 1:02:04

Yeah, he's, he's, he's. Would have been him or Blake Clark.

Speaker 3 1:02:06

Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 1:02:07

But then from there I have.

Speaker 3 1:02:08

Hold on. Do you have a president? I have a president. I don't have a president In 1990? Wait, you just said it was.

Speaker 1 1:02:13

I'm joking, okay, all right, all right.

Speaker 3 1:02:18

My president in a 1990 Armageddon is Leslie Nielsen, that's.

Speaker 2 1:02:27

I mean, he did play the president in Scary Movie 3 and Scary Movie 4. But I want him to go. I'm just giving him a serious role, gotcha, and he's going to do it. Okay, all right. All right, I'm here for it.

Speaker 3 1:02:31

It's just that voice he's got a good, deep, stoic voice he does.

Speaker 1 1:02:35

He's got some glasses on him. It's going to be a very, very huge, huge change up for.

Speaker 2 1:02:41

And he's serious in like airplane and stuff. I mean he plays it seriously. So I mean I think that's solid.

Speaker 1 1:02:47

Just don't ask him if he's serious. That's the only rule. Surely, surely.

Speaker 2 1:02:50

Oh gosh.

Speaker 1 1:02:51

All right. Next I have Dr Ronald Quinley, who's played by Jason Isaacs Did anybody do Jason Isaacs?

Speaker 3 1:02:56

That's the guy I didn't do.

Speaker 1 1:02:57

Okay, that's the one you didn't do by rice ivans, who's from little nicky? He was the bad brother who went up to earth to try to take over it is he?

Speaker 3 1:03:08

he's the lizard in the spiderman. Okay, he's a kicker in the replacement.

Speaker 2 1:03:12

He's also the kicker in the yeah, that's what I know, and he's luna lovegood's dad in the harry potter well, there you go.

Speaker 1 1:03:16

So if I'm not wait, maybe not.

Speaker 2 1:03:18

I mean, I would have believed you otherwise yeah you can tell us that and we'll, we'll go with it I'm pretty sure that's him, though we are not Potterheads, you know what I am, though.

Speaker 3 1:03:27

I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 1:03:28

Do it. I don't know what you're doing. It was Rice Ivins. Hey, look at me go.

Speaker 3 1:03:32

What's this character's?

Speaker 1 1:03:32

name Dr Ronald Quindley.

Speaker 3 1:03:36

I'm just going to write Dr Ron or.

Speaker 1 1:03:37

Quincy.

Speaker 3 1:03:38

I'm going to give you one in 1990, right now it's Harold Ramis.

Speaker 1 1:03:44

Interesting, okay, you're going very Independence Day with this. I see, okay, all right.

Speaker 2 1:03:48

I like it, I like it.

Speaker 1 1:03:49

Okay, okay, he's not independent.

Speaker 3 1:03:51

I was like who is he in Independence Day? He reminds me of the scientist from Independence Day I was like what? All right, all right, it was going to be him or Rick Moranis.

Speaker 1 1:04:01

Harold Ramis wrote a lot of movies, like with, with bill murray, like animal house.

Speaker 3 1:04:05

He was an animal. Yeah, no, he wrote it. Oh, he wrote animal house.

Speaker 1 1:04:07

Right, right, right, okay. Um, next up we have general kimsey, who's played by keith david. You all know him as the voice from the villain in princess and the frog. He is in the thing among many other voice actor movies, tons of stuff range damn, you had him down low.

Speaker 3 1:04:23

I have him like halfway up my cast well, he's just. He's just the military standard he's like we gotta do the thing, but but he makes him, but he's he does enough to nuance to make it likable.

Speaker 1 1:04:31

Like when he gets the call from the president to bomb him, his first move is like you gotta get those guys off there.

Speaker 3 1:04:36

Like yeah, you know, honestly, the last, this last watch is the first time I think I ever noticed that he does do a lot of subtle like I hate being the bad guy here.

Speaker 1 1:04:44

He's not, he's not, he's not.

Speaker 3 1:04:45

One note yeah, he like, even like, uh he. He is like, when the president first call him, he actually tries to argue. He says, but you know, but don't you think we just wait yeah I was like I've never really noticed that he does kind of fight this and doesn't want to do this.

Speaker 1 1:04:58

He's kind of telling him, like I don't have a hand in, like yeah, I'm trying, I tried, so it it does a good job, like subverting that trope of the military guy's like get out of my way, we'll handle this the right way, kind of thing. Yeah, but it makes the president look like a dick, which he was in this moment, oh man. That's the rock president, so my president for the Sandlerverse, or, I'm sorry, my General Kimsey is Christopher McDonald. Yeah, I love it Shooter.

Speaker 2 1:05:22

McGavin himself I love it.

Speaker 1 1:05:23

I love that. It's a little redemptive moment for him in the Sandlerverse, so he's going to get to play the hard-nosed guy that's going against him. But he's not so bad.

Speaker 2 1:05:31

I love Chris Rimmel. He would play that so well, I love him.

Speaker 3 1:05:33

He's such a good actor he is I need to cast him in more.

Speaker 1 1:05:35

All right, I have a General Kimsey, all right, from Top Gun. From Top Gun. Yeah, alien, who does he play in?

Speaker 3 1:05:45

Top Gun Any like Mavericks, Best friend right. No, he's not, it's the main guy with the mustache, the higher up guy.

Speaker 1 1:05:51

Goose.

Speaker 3 1:05:52

No, that's who I was thinking of You're talking about.

Speaker 1 1:06:00

His superior Tom.

Speaker 3 1:06:00

Skerritt.

Speaker 2 1:06:00

How do you spell Skerritt? S-k-e-r-r-i he's like the husband, that's like shooting the.

Speaker 1 1:06:05

I know who you're talking about yeah, yeah, yeah, River runs through it. He's an alien. Yeah, he's Okay.

Speaker 3 1:06:09

I know who you're talking about. He's in Top Gun. Right, I'm not crazy, Okay, I'm like. You guys are making me go crazy.

Speaker 1 1:06:13

He's basically the Maverick in the Top Gun movie. Gotcha that Maverick is in the Top Gun Maver movie it was fun to my hometown.

Speaker 3 1:06:29

Fun fact anyways, oh yeah, the more you know. Hey, top gun tom's okay that's.

Speaker 1 1:06:30

That's. That's good. Like the mustache works like he he come, he's already in a military movie, so, yeah, that works. Like sometimes you just play what you know, cory. Yeah, all right, I have oscar played by owen wilson next. Does anybody have oscar?

Speaker 2 1:06:41

you have oscar, you got oscar, I have oscar. So it's funny because you mentioned that shot of him on the horse with the helicopter behind and I was like you know what would be really fun to watch this or watch play him? It's Josh Hartnett and I feel like he could kind of play like the aloof kind of like going along with it with the cowboy hat and like riding the horse.

Speaker 1 1:07:02

Maybe that's just a dream of mine to see. In general, this has got some gray hair a little bit Josh Hartnett.

Speaker 3 1:07:06

That's exactly what I was thinking A little salt and pepper.

Speaker 2 1:07:08

I think it'd be good.

Speaker 3 1:07:09

His pearl snaps slightly open.

Speaker 2 1:07:12

Well, and I want the Josh Hartnett renaissance to happen earlier on.

Speaker 1 1:07:15

Just trying to kickstart it. I'm trying to kickstart it.

Speaker 2 1:07:17

That's my goal here.

Speaker 1 1:07:19

Okay, I see that.

Speaker 2 1:07:27

I actor in overall. Yes, so it's gonna hurt when he does bite the dust in the movie. Yep, exactly, and imagine him saying the whole jethro toll, uh, uh line where he's like, and they said that jethro toll is just a band and like nobody knows who he is. It would be great, he'd be great at that.

Speaker 1 1:07:35

Also the conversation with ben affleck's aj was like have you seen star wars?

Speaker 3 1:07:39

yeah, exactly, yeah, it'd be perfect I like that.

Speaker 1 1:07:42

I do like that, cory, who's your oscar?

Speaker 3 1:07:44

my, my Oscar in 1990, I went so in this. This is like we're discovering Owen Wilson, right yeah, Because I can't think of much before this.

Speaker 1 1:07:51

It's all the. I think, yeah, it's early on, it's like Bottle Rocket. It's the Wes Anderson thing, you know.

Speaker 3 1:07:55

And so I'm going with someone on their way out. Oh, you know, they've already kind of peaked. Okay, I'm going. Judd Nelson. Judd Nelson Okay In 1990, he still kind of got his long hair.

Speaker 2 1:08:07

Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:08:08

I'm just going to let him have it.

Speaker 1 1:08:09

I'm not saying I'm surprised, I'm going to be upset when he dies.

Speaker 3 1:08:11

I just need to put someone there. I'm going to be upset when they die, that's fair.

Speaker 1 1:08:14

So to answer your earlier question Bottle Rocket Cable Guy Anaconda.

Speaker 3 1:08:23

But he's not.

Speaker 1 1:08:24

It's not big yet anaconda is probably the biggest thing behind a bottle rocket anaconda well, yeah, he like we've talked about this. He like leaves his girlfriend out there.

Speaker 3 1:08:31

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, he totally signs with john voight. He does, he does, he does okay.

Speaker 1 1:08:36

So I for my own will sense, because he's he's very much the happy-go-lucky man. I'm just along for the ride, isn't this cool kind of character in the sandler verse I'm giving you Peter Dante, he's the one that talks like this a little bit guys Like, he's just like the kind of the, the idiot of the group a little bit. He's like oh, that guy.

Speaker 3 1:08:54

Okay, for a second I thought you're like the cab driver or the limo driver from wedding singers Like Whoa Nick chicken guy. Have you seen Grandma's Boy Alley? No, it's the strongest non-Sandler, happy Madison movie.

Speaker 2 1:09:15

Peter Dante oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like the hot guy.

Speaker 1 1:09:18

Yeah, I do, okay, he is.

Speaker 3 1:09:19

Yeah, you got to speak out.

Speaker 2 1:09:22

Yeah, it's the hot guy. I don't know how to take that. I think he's out though.

Speaker 1 1:09:30

I think they kicked him. Well, he dies anyway. He's like I'll put you in half the movie.

Speaker 3 1:09:34

He's like I'll do that If you're doing this around 2010, 2015, he's still in. Yeah, you're good, he's still in. He hasn't come out as a bad person yet.

Speaker 1 1:09:39

But yeah, I think he, just like I was sitting there watching it and like everything Owen Wilson was like Peter Dante could say this and it would be hilarious. Yeah, it almost beat for beat, the same way in tone and it still works Like think longest yard, like how? That's a little more serious, but it's still very happy, madison.

Speaker 3 1:09:59

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:09:59

Like that's the tone almost.

Speaker 3 1:10:01

And so, like also, I'm going to say this why does he have so many parking tickets In so many States?

Speaker 1 1:10:10

he doesn't play by the rules, Corey it's such a weird too many handicap spots.

Speaker 3 1:10:13

It's a fun scene where they're all like, mainly, it's just the punchline at the end they don't want to pay taxes ever again.

Speaker 1 1:10:18

A hundred percent Like no the government. I'm not paying the government anything anymore. From now on you're paying me Exactly and so like it's fine his arm. When he walks in the bar he's like, yeah, I was on that ship.

Speaker 3 1:10:33

You're going to win every conversation.

Speaker 1 1:10:36

You're ever in.

Speaker 3 1:10:36

I went to space Life's great, but they're doing the things. Part of me wonders if the actors just came up with their own. And I'm just like does Owen Wilson have a deep backstory about this man? Just his inability to park? They don't have to say traffic tickets, it's parking tickets.

Speaker 1 1:10:52

I'm telling you there's too many handicapped spots. Where's he?

Speaker 3 1:10:53

parking and like why is he not learning his lesson 57.

Speaker 1 1:10:56

In seven states. How are they going to catch him? He goes from town to town parks in the Walmart.

Speaker 3 1:11:02

He sounds like a serial parking bar. He probably lives off. Yeah, oh yeah, like parking in the handicapped spot and like and then not paying and just moves on to the next town.

Speaker 1 1:11:08

He's an oil man.

Speaker 3 1:11:10

Thriller.

Speaker 1 1:11:11

They don't stay in one spot, they go somewhere for two weeks come back, call it a day.

Speaker 3 1:11:14

It's the one guy we never see drive a car too. He rides a horse, A horse.

Speaker 1 1:11:18

That's why he has to ride a horse.

Speaker 3 1:11:19

He can't get pulled over because the horse doesn't have a license on the back. That's what it is. He's lost his license, so he's on horses. Okay, that's.

Speaker 2 1:11:30

All right, good in your guys, that's valid all right moving on.

Speaker 1 1:11:33

Co-pilot jennifer watts, played by jessica steen, did anybody anybody.

Speaker 3 1:11:36

I did watts okay because I was like she's the only other woman, it's only two women in this movie.

Speaker 2 1:11:41

Two women, and I didn't cast her. They don't talk to each other. Hold on, speak to each other dotty, there's three. Oh, the wife the wife, yeah, the wife that he calls a raging bitch or something like that a blood-sucking bitch from which there's no escape.

Speaker 1 1:11:54

Wait, are we talking about Bruce Willis' wife? Are we talking about Chick's wife?

Speaker 3 1:11:57

No, the guy up front, the guy who names the comet, the astronomer that finds the comet, he calls his wife See.

Speaker 1 1:12:03

There's just too many side characters that have no purpose other than like hey, I have a fun idea for a scene with this guy.

Speaker 3 1:12:08

Okay, but yeah than it'd be, I got Chick's wife too.

Speaker 1 1:12:11

Okay, Jessica Steen's character co-pilot, Jennifer Watts. Anybody want to take it?

Speaker 3 1:12:16

I did it Okay In 1990, I'm giving it to Jamie Lee Curtis. Jamie Lee Curtis. Okay, just because I can hear see that's the cadence of the scene of if I were to kick you in the balls right now.

Speaker 2 1:12:33

Yeah, she's playing Watts.

Speaker 1 1:12:34

And maybe since we got Jamie Lee maybe we're going to give her a bigger role, A little bit more going on. Maybe we'll write some more scenes for her. Maybe she's the one that actually fixes the ship, instead of letting Peter Stonemaier just beat the shit out of the computer like Fonzie.

Speaker 2 1:12:49

Oh, it's so good.

Speaker 3 1:12:56

I picked from there's plenty of women in the Sandlerverse because Adam Sandler just likes to pick attractive women to play as significant others In exotic locations.

Speaker 1 1:13:00

But I'm going to give you a throwback, bridget Wilson.

Speaker 3 1:13:03

Oh, Veronica Vaughn.

Speaker 1 1:13:05

Yes.

Speaker 3 1:13:05

Veronica Vaughn. Veronica Vaughn was a big deal to every man, every kid my age in third grade.

Speaker 1 1:13:12

Absolutely.

Speaker 3 1:13:13

You're like oh, my teacher does not look like Because she was Sonya Blade in Mortal Kombat. She's so hot and Last Action Hero. And Last Action Hero she's the daughter that's right, she's got those action chops.

Speaker 1 1:13:23

She can hang with the boys.

Speaker 3 1:13:24

She's not scared it was definitely a period of my life where that was my biggest crush.

Speaker 1 1:13:32

Of course that's totally valid babe, but no that's solid for Watts.

Speaker 3 1:13:35

Yeah, yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 1:13:37

Do you have a co-pilot? I?

Speaker 3 1:13:38

don't.

Speaker 2 1:13:38

Okay, it's okay, it's all right If you were to just throw it out there. Oh gosh, I have no idea From 2018.

Speaker 1 1:13:45

I know you were playing a little bit by the rules by trying to cast a little bit.

Speaker 2 1:13:56

I'm a don't really know who I would I'll give you a minute.

Speaker 3 1:13:57

We'll come back to it. Okay, so the two feminists on the podcast are the guys.

Speaker 1 1:13:59

The one's keeping score. I just want to cast hot guys. She didn't think watts was worth it, wow my bad moving on to I got max. Next, do you have a?

Speaker 2 1:14:06

max. I probably have everyone you have from here on. Okay, I couldn't find a max. I did have trouble finding a max.

Speaker 1 1:14:11

I'll go first uh max played by ken ken campbell. Alliteration there um dies the other main of the group to die that we were like, we're like oh no, but he dies, it's.

Speaker 3 1:14:20

It's a tragic death, it is because it's also when he dies. They lost their hope, yeah, they lose the drill armadillo.

Speaker 1 1:14:25

Which why wouldn't you build the armadillo to like attach itself to the ground?

Speaker 3 1:14:30

because like it does, did he, did he detach, and that's what blew like I think it's one of the pipes that was actually attaching went in. I don't know, when you watch Armageddon log in enough times, you're kind of like there's a lot about drilling.

Speaker 2 1:14:41

I don't know that they just assume I know how many transmissions am I supposed to have?

Speaker 3 1:14:47

How big are they? Could we not get more on the ship, as many as possible?

Speaker 1 1:14:52

on the ship.

Speaker 3 1:14:52

At least two per ship would have been smart on the ship, like as many as possible on the ship. At least two per ship would have been smart, or it's like how many, or do we have at?

Speaker 1 1:14:58

nasa just put them all on there on the ship, or was there a warehouse?

Speaker 3 1:15:00

guy saying like we, we're gonna need a weight issue cory, there's a weight issue with the ship that's true.

Speaker 1 1:15:05

That's true um I picked for mine. Who did I pick? Who is this? Oh uh, I think I spelt his. I think I mixed people Kevin. I picked Kevin, Not Kevin Hart. Kevin.

Speaker 2 1:15:18

Mall.

Speaker 1 1:15:18

Cop.

Speaker 2 1:15:20

Kevin James.

Speaker 1 1:15:21

I put Kevin Wilson. I was like that's not right. Kevin James for Max.

Speaker 2 1:15:25

Oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 1:15:28

It's also going to make him a more relevant character Because of his proximity to Sandler. And then when he dies, you're like well, crap.

Speaker 3 1:15:34

It is sad and he screams Harry. Oh man're like well crap. Yeah, it is sad. It is sad and he screams Harry, right before he dies. He does scream Harry.

Speaker 1 1:15:37

Oh man, you could tell there was a bond there, he also kind of had a father figure with him a little bit?

Speaker 3 1:15:43

Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 1:15:44

It's sad, it's very sad and we kind of like Kevin James a little bit.

Speaker 3 1:15:47

I mean, I don't have a problem with all of them. Here Comes the Boom was great. Accidentally, here's the Boom was weirdly one of those movies where, like that was better than that should have been.

Speaker 1 1:15:56

It's 100%.

Speaker 3 1:15:58

I saw Adam Sandler play and Kevin James just showed up Nice and David Spade, I was way more excited about David Spade, though.

Speaker 1 1:16:03

That's fair. That's fair, kuzco. Yeah, corey, I'll let you go first. You don't have a max.

Speaker 3 1:16:11

You have to hear me out, though I'm not trying to tread on your Sandlerverse here, but he just joined Saturday Night Live. He is not a name yet. So we're not going to just see him as the funny guy. It's Chris Farley Is my max In 1990.

Speaker 1 1:16:24

He's in his first season of SNL and because of the time period I'm in, we don't get Chris Farley.

Speaker 3 1:16:28

Yeah, you're fine, okay, cool.

Speaker 1 1:16:37

So, right, right, right, right yeah the chris farley's.

Speaker 3 1:16:38

But yeah, we're gonna be sad when he dies because he's lovable, yeah, and he probably gets more screen time because because ken campbell doesn't get a lot. But in 1990 he's just that new funny guy on snl. We don't know him as tommy boy yeah, you know, and all those characters.

Speaker 2 1:16:42

So I love chris farley. Well, he dies in my movie well, thanks for that.

Speaker 1 1:16:49

So you don't have a max, and that's okay don't have a max, if you think of something. Write it down. We'll come back to you at the end, Natural, if you think about it. Sometimes they pop up and you're like, oh wait, that's so much better. Alright, lev Andropov or, however you say it, the Russian Played by Peter Stomar. You didn't cast the Russian. You didn't cast it.

Speaker 3 1:17:09

Peter Stomar, it was the show.

Speaker 2 1:17:12

He has lines that I love. I feel horrible now, but also to be fair though in 2018, you just cast Peter Stonemaier again.

Speaker 1 1:17:21

Yeah, that's my choice.

Speaker 2 1:17:23

We'll go ahead and choose him.

Speaker 1 1:17:24

Because even trying to Google Russian actors, because he's actually a he's Danish or something, isn't he Danish, or? Dutch or something.

Speaker 3 1:17:29

Yeah, so he's not actually Russian, so he's like, I mean mean there's like daniel brule, yeah you could like, you know done, you know he's german yeah, and so he could have done it.

Speaker 1 1:17:38

You could go with one of the, the brothers uh played nosferatu and in oh, scars guard brothers, there's vincent cassell, he's french.

Speaker 2 1:17:45

There you go, I'll go with alexander scars guard for that. I think he would. I think he would play it pretty well.

Speaker 1 1:17:49

It's right around it time too. So like okay, alexander scars, guard tarzan.

Speaker 2 1:17:55

Yes, yes, yes, I think he would play it well, because he also does have comedic chops yeah, he's also in the northman he is in the northman.

Speaker 1 1:18:01

Yes, oh, yes, okay, I'm choosing him all right, alexander's good, well thought out well thank you, I had it totally prepared yes, yes, yes, you did all the, all the details, all the not didn't spare any time. Um, I was torn here but I wanted to go with someone. That was more One of the choices. I know they're friends, but he hasn't really ever been in a major role in one of Sandler's movies. I'm going John Turturro.

Speaker 2 1:18:24

Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 1:18:25

I understand he's not Russian.

Speaker 2 1:18:27

Not even a little bit.

Speaker 1 1:18:28

I think that's fine, it's fine, we'll work around it. It could be somebody, yeah, yeah because I thought about sasha baron cohen, but I was like they're just friends. I don't think they were he's. I think he might have had a spot in zohan oh, I don't remember, but I don't.

Speaker 1 1:18:39

I don't really remember if it was a major role or not, but I liked totoro, like or he's just fun, like yeah, he can nail it and we could make you know we could, you could work around it, figure it out, it would any way you want to. But I think he just has like the right level of crazy about him. You know, when you think about Mr Deeds. That's exactly what I was about to bring up, or even like Big Lebowski, like he always plays, like those really crazy characters really well.

Speaker 2 1:18:59

Yeah, he's hilarious in Mr Deeds.

Speaker 3 1:19:03

Yeah, and I feel like Peter Stonemaier steals so many scenes in this movie. Yeah, he's so good, he's so good. Corey, who do you have? Listen, I'm in 1990. I, okay, all right. But by the way, dolph Lundgren studied chemical engineering at MIT and apparently he has an IQ of 160. Apparently he's just stupidly smart. He was just built like a god.

Speaker 1 1:19:20

He was built like Thor, so he's just like all right, I'll do acting. I guess I'll do this. I guess I'll fight Rocky, it's fine.

Speaker 3 1:19:27

So yeah, I think it still works. You can still pull it off it.

Speaker 1 1:19:31

It's also funny for a movie that's so pro-American and like no, we got it, we're going to do it. Like he saves them so many times and like it's just and obviously they're playing off the whole Russia, kind of we're just got out of the cold war and so it's just funny to see a Russian having such prominent heroic moments.

Speaker 3 1:19:46

Michael Bay has this like fetish for American flags. He hates France, but he gives the Russian guy a lot to do.

Speaker 1 1:19:56

Who do you think he voted for in this last election? So up next is Bear and Bear's, played by Michael Clarke Duncan. Rest in peace to Michael Clarke Duncan. May he rest in peace, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 1:20:06

I love his character.

Speaker 3 1:20:07

So I can tell you this is a good movie, because it held my wife's attention for two and a half hours. Oh wow, and she like if I'm watching a movie she does, she like, loses interest fast yeah, she'll go do something else.

Speaker 1 1:20:16

Okay, she's not gonna sit there.

Speaker 3 1:20:17

She doesn't even give you, like the she'll like text her family on her phone. She'll read she'll do anything else. Like she'll go find something like she's just like nope, I'm out.

Speaker 1 1:20:23

This is dumb you get to a point where you just have to let people go cory. And so last night I don't force her, I'm like this is fine.

Speaker 3 1:20:28

I mean there are movies like you you to watch this. I'm sorry, but you're gonna be here, but Armageddon wasn't one, I guess it's just like it's long, it's whatever. But I started told her hey, I'm doing this on the podcast tomorrow and I haven't watched it yet, so I need to rewatch it. And she zoned in didn't talk to me. The whole movie she's in but like when Michael Clarke, she's like. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but he's been dead for like 10 years.

Speaker 3 1:20:54

Sorry, there's a reason you haven't seen him in a movie in a really long time, babe, aww. And so those moments are always fun, where you're like ugh, how do I tell you so yeah, but he's great, like, he's just.

Speaker 1 1:21:04

he's like the lovable character that he always is in these type of movies. But my favorite scene shoot aj, and he's like don't make me shoot. She's like I'm just trying to buy my boy time, get him a head start and like that's a friend that is a friend they do such a good job.

Speaker 1 1:21:21

I didn't re-watching it this time I realized developing the bond between all the guys going through it, I I felt like in previous watches I was like, well, you really don't get to know them until they're all together at nasa. But then I was like no, you get to see a lot of them early on. I was torn here. But it's my space science brain and then my what fits in the Sandler verse brain, where it were with each other between Terry Crews and Shaq oh you can't fit Shaq in a spaceship.

Speaker 1 1:21:47

It's funny. It's a. If it was a complete Sandler movie, it works, but I'm trying to like keep in bay's vision as much as possible, I think you gotta go cherry cruise.

Speaker 3 1:21:56

That's kind of where I just can't really act.

Speaker 2 1:21:58

No, no, I can't even, yeah, even something goofy.

Speaker 1 1:22:01

It's pretty bad. It's yeah so, and I love shack yeah, we all love oh yeah steel is a guilty pleasure movie.

Speaker 3 1:22:09

I think steel is great not kazam but I'll watch steel over kazam any day, but like he's not good at it, no, but by all means no, no, no so yeah, that's that's I was thinking.

Speaker 1 1:22:18

Terry cruz is going to be better. He's also closer in height to michael clark duncan. He's six three.

Speaker 2 1:22:22

Duncan was six, six, I believe yeah, he's a big dude, yeah, seven one, yeah, so it just would have made everyone look small yeah which was it was.

Speaker 1 1:22:30

It would have been funny, but if I'm trying to like all, we're still trying to make this work.

Speaker 2 1:22:34

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 1:22:35

Not completely. Lampoon it, corey, who's your bear Bear Mine was Tiny Lister in 1990. I almost thought about him too, because he's in Little Nicky as well.

Speaker 3 1:22:45

Oh, that's right.

Speaker 1 1:22:46

He's the other brother that goes to Earth to take over.

Speaker 2 1:22:49

I've never seen Little Nicky, so Rise.

Speaker 1 1:22:51

Ivins and Tiny Lister are Satan's children, along with Adam Sandler. Okay, and they go to Earth to take over it.

Speaker 2 1:22:58

Gotcha.

Speaker 1 1:22:59

And little Nikki Adam's job is to go, send them back to Hell. You have to watch it.

Speaker 2 1:23:03

Okay, you'll have a good time. I was absolutely not allowed to watch that as a child. I understand.

Speaker 1 1:23:07

Completely Weirdly, one I did watch, really. One of the first ones that I think I watched at a friend's or something.

Speaker 3 1:23:13

Oh, gotcha At a friend's, yeah, and the whole time you're like my parents would be so mad, they would be so mad, they'd be so angry.

Speaker 1 1:23:18

Oh man, I'm a bad man.

Speaker 3 1:23:20

I've been a bad man, but I'm also being intentional here with Tiny Lister, because he's just coming off no holds barred, okay, like Hulk Hogan's. Just I'm giving him a chance here to make people forget no holds barred, sure, sure.

Speaker 1 1:23:34

Very nice. I like that it works. He's also a likable gentle giant type. Do you have a bear?

Speaker 2 1:23:39

I do have a bear, don't worry, I did cast a bear for this one. I was thinking because this guy is just a I mean he's I was thinking of just like a built big dude. Okay, and that's Alan Richson who plays Jack Reacher.

Speaker 1 1:23:53

Oh that guy I think would be really good as Bear and like the comedic funny parts. Yeah, that works for sure.

Speaker 2 1:23:59

Yeah, I think he would do a really good job.

Speaker 1 1:24:01

Alan Richardson.

Speaker 2 1:24:02

Richson Richson. I think it's Richson Richson, yes.

Speaker 1 1:24:04

Richson R-I-T-C-H-S-O-N.

Speaker 2 1:24:06

He's like the guy everybody wants to be Batman and I think he could do a good job Also from Blue Mountain State.

Speaker 3 1:24:14

That's not my intention.

Speaker 2 1:24:15

She didn't cast Max because she didn't want to think about an overweight, short man. This is not true.

Speaker 1 1:24:21

She's keeping in line with Michael Bay's bigger is better.

Speaker 3 1:24:25

More, abs more jawline.

Speaker 2 1:24:27

Magic Mike.

Speaker 1 1:24:28

In space.

Speaker 2 1:24:30

Genuinely, I'm not trying to cast Hotman, and besides I have a couple that I don't. Who did you cast for this? Uh, yeah, now I'm gonna have to.

Speaker 1 1:24:41

Oh no, I forgot to cast that one too. Well, okay, cory. So we'll move on to the next one.

Speaker 2 1:24:43

No, you guys are gonna roast me for my later ones I've seen male strippers into space oh, we're drilling the earth.

Speaker 3 1:24:58

You told us we were drilling a woman named Dottie. That's the name of the asteroid.

Speaker 1 1:25:04

I've completely missed this.

Speaker 3 1:25:05

It's just packs and junk floating around. They're only wearing their helmets and g-strings in Ali's movie.

Speaker 1 1:25:13

It's like the alternate version of what's that movie? The creators of Napoleon Dynamite when they changed this. It's Gentleman Broncos when he steals the book and he makes it like a very like sensual version of it.

Speaker 2 1:25:28

I am sweating. Oh my gosh, I bet you are.

Speaker 1 1:25:42

Who knew Armageddon was going to so?

Speaker 3 1:25:43

spicy, so Colonel Willie Sharp played by.

Speaker 1 1:25:44

Willem Fickner, favorite character in the whole movie. Corey, who do you got for the for the astronaut with a gun?

Speaker 3 1:25:48

for 1990 this was easy for me.

Speaker 2 1:25:51

Okay for William Sharp, it's Kevin Bacon oh, oh, heck, yeah, oh, of course, yeah, of course that's a good one, because Kevin Bacon's equally intense man he is yeah.

Speaker 3 1:25:59

And when he pulls that gun, it's his eyes dude.

Speaker 1 1:26:01

Kevin Bacon has intense freaking eyes. Absolutely yeah, if.

Speaker 3 1:26:04

Kevin Bacon pointed a gun at me, I would genuinely be like he's gonna shoot of.

Speaker 2 1:26:07

Chris Pretz.

Speaker 3 1:26:17

How the hell is that your first go-to of Kevin Bacon?

Speaker 1 1:26:20

It's humor, Corey.

Speaker 3 1:26:23

I can't tell, sometimes with your childhood, maybe Balto was the only movie you're allowed to watch with Kevin Bacon in it.

Speaker 1 1:26:27

It probably was the first Kevin Bacon movie I watched. I mean I probably saw clips of him in Footloose and stuff. But your parents were like you are now watching Footloose, there's no dancing in this house, young man and Nick just wants to dance man. Dad, I just want to dance. Did you ever just stand?

Speaker 3 1:26:45

up on the kitchen table and quote 2 Samuel 6.14?.

Speaker 1 1:26:48

If I had, watched Footloose and David danced before the Lord.

Speaker 3 1:26:52

Dad, oh my gosh. Frank, oh my gosh, yeah. So if you don't know Kevin Bacon, he's the voice of Balto. A few good men. If you don't recognize him, he's that dog. He's that dog.

Speaker 2 1:27:11

Excuse you, he saved lives, all right.

Speaker 1 1:27:14

And no Maleska For newer people, he's the bad guy in X-Men First Class. Oh, I forgot about that Tremors.

Speaker 3 1:27:22

Tremors is great Sleepers oh my God. Kevin Bacon's made so many good movies, so many movies.

Speaker 1 1:27:28

That's why there's six degrees of him. It's probably shortened at this point.

Speaker 2 1:27:31

He's also in the Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas edition. That's right, as Kevin Bacon, he's that guy. He's that guy.

Speaker 1 1:27:38

Gen Z he's that guy. He's that guy.

Speaker 3 1:27:40

I was supposed to pick him up from the airport once. That's right, and I went back to sleep.

Speaker 1 1:27:46

You have to tell the story now.

Speaker 3 1:27:49

He has a band he does with his brother called the Bacon Brothers. What the crap Corey and they were playing in like Grant, like the casino in like just about an hour away. And my sister. She books talent for like the venues here, for like the Choctaw casinos and, like she, like their airplane was like landing early or something like that. She's like I don't have anyone to go pick them up. She had called me and it was like 6 am and I was like this is what it feels like a dream when someone asks you if you're going to go pick up Kevin Bacon from the airport.

Speaker 1 1:28:16

We could have all been one degree from Kevin Bacon.

Speaker 3 1:28:19

You would have been one degree Anytime you played that game. You could have just said Nick Grohl, but yeah, I regret it. Later that day I literally was like Ashley, did you call me this morning? She's like, yeah, I'm surprised you like didn't want to go and I was like that was real oh, no I would have asked him so many questions about tremors as you should, just tremors.

Speaker 1 1:28:39

Yeah, he's like you don't want to know about footloose or tom cruise and a few no, no, no tremors let's talk tremors oh my gosh, that's funny ali, who is your colonel all right.

Speaker 2 1:28:49

So I feel terrible because I don't know how to pronounce his name that's's okay, and I don't want to butcher it either.

Speaker 1 1:28:54

I butcher so many names Allie Dale.

Speaker 2 1:28:56

It's the man from 12 Years a Slave.

Speaker 3 1:28:59

Chiwetel Ejiofor. Yes, yes, thank you. I think that's how you pronounce it, is it Okay? I feel horrible. I said it with confidence, which is the key. That's the key.

Speaker 1 1:29:09

That Not an antagonist, but he's the other wizard in the Doctor Strange movies.

Speaker 2 1:29:17

Oh, I didn't factor that in. He is, isn't he? Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 1:29:19

I'm trying to just let people know.

Speaker 2 1:29:20

Yeah, no, no, no For the non-cinephiles. Yeah, for sure, and he's in 2012 with John Cusack.

Speaker 3 1:29:26

Is he really? Yeah he's like the geologist that just figures out everything's going bad.

Speaker 2 1:29:30

Oh okay, watch it. But yeah, I think he would do, I think he would be a really great Captain Sharp. Yeah, no, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 1:29:35

Again the intensity and like he keeps a gaze they all keep, like a locked gaze on whatever they're looking at. And you're just like I, am terrified of this person. Yes, exactly Also who brings a gun to space? Let's be serious.

Speaker 3 1:29:47

I like that they do it's a fun.

Speaker 2 1:29:50

No, no, probably put a gun on the right, I mean it just adds to the american stuff.

Speaker 1 1:29:54

I mean it just adds to it iris my case bring a gun but like uh, all the other, like the, the russian, everyone else watching was.

Speaker 3 1:30:01

That's ridiculous, that would never be allowed I'm sure someone said okay, if you fired that in space, x would happen and everybody's like that would that's probably one of the things like what were you saying?

Speaker 2 1:30:10

like nasa, they they watch this movie yeah, I guess, like of their management trainings, they watch this movie to try and see if they can find all of the errors in this movie.

Speaker 3 1:30:18

That would just make me walk out of NASA. I'd be like you know what, If y'all aren't going to respect this movie, I don't want to work here.

Speaker 1 1:30:24

They use it in management training program. New managers are tasked with identifying as many scientific inaccuracies as possible, with at least 168 have been found.

Speaker 3 1:30:32

We already have Neil tied to Grison ruining shit on a daily basis. Like now NASA is just making it a training exercise. I would raise my hand and be like I'm sorry. So if this won't work, if an asteroid comes at us, like what's our plan then?

Speaker 1 1:30:50

All right, so let's get this moving along so we don't pass two hours. Hopefully, Rockhound Allie. Who hours? Hopefully, Rockhound Allie, who do you have for Rockhound?

Speaker 2 1:30:58

For Rockhound I have Eben Moss Bachman, the dude from the Bear.

Speaker 1 1:31:02

Okay, yeah, who's playing the thing in the Fantastic Four?

Speaker 2 1:31:04

Yeah, he's playing the thing in the upcoming Fantastic Four.

Speaker 1 1:31:06

I think he would do a good job as a horned dog, who's also insanely smart. I don't know what it is. There's something about. There's a weird kinetic energy, just a wildness to him in the eyes, like like he's not just, he's not bat shit like some, like the like the russian character but he's there is a crazy. Obviously he gets space dementia.

Speaker 2 1:31:25

He's ready to die like he's going to strip clubs, like something's off, he owns, he like owes like a hundred thousand dollars to a loan shark, I mean. And then he realizes, oh no, to live, I'm going to have to pay this back.

Speaker 3 1:31:37

Bashimi does, so good it's so good Philosophical question now what like? Given just that we, the audience, know everything going on, would you let him do the no, since he's already suicidal.

Speaker 1 1:31:50

I want to get off the asteroid before he does it, so I need that time, ok.

Speaker 3 1:31:55

So you mainly don't trust him to wait for you. Yeah, he's just gonna immediately.

Speaker 2 1:31:57

Yes 100 like he's ready. Yeah, okay, I a thousand percent agree with nick and I don't trust.

Speaker 1 1:32:01

Like yeah, bruce willis walks him down like this. I don't trust. The minute he gets out of my eyesight I'm like he's gonna. I'm terrified. Let's get. Leave, bruce, let's go and that's his fault.

Speaker 2 1:32:09

Who knows if he's even gonna make it all the way down before he does it? What if he just says it on the surface of the comet yeah, yeah, exactly, all right.

Speaker 1 1:32:16

It's just not well he could do it on the surface because it's it's down the. The bomb is down in the in the in the core of the asteroid.

Speaker 2 1:32:23

That's right I'm thinking about because yeah yeah, you're right, you're right, yeah but still but still, I wouldn't trust.

Speaker 1 1:32:27

No, no, not at all it's just.

Speaker 3 1:32:28

It's one of those things where he literally does deliver that line believably, where he's like guys. I know you'll think I'm crazy, but I would love this responsibility.

Speaker 1 1:32:35

He's like I don't want to go back to earth. I'm more scared of going back to earth. I put david spade here that's a good one.

Speaker 2 1:32:43

That's a good one. That's where he goes.

Speaker 1 1:32:44

I was trying, I was I had moved around a few things. I was like no, that's david spade 100 for sure? So let's see who's the cory, who is your?

Speaker 3 1:32:56

I'm so proud of my list from kevin bacon on up just so you know from here on out, I'm just winning this. Okay, my uh rockhound is bill murray in 1990 that's so good.

Speaker 2 1:33:06

That's a really good one, that's so really good one I it.

Speaker 1 1:33:09

You get to see unhinged bill murray. It's just chaotic. Yeah, it's just chaotic and I chaotic.

Speaker 3 1:33:14

I like the character Rockhound and my favorite thing about the character is in the montage where he's with the therapist or whoever and he's saying how smart he is. But then he's like. But I became a roughneck because I like the hours I get to travel.

Speaker 1 1:33:27

That is such a Bill Murray. That's what geniuses actually do in real life.

Speaker 3 1:33:31

It's like the smartest people in the world are doing not smart things because they're smart enough to go. I don't waste my time trying to solve unsolvable problems.

Speaker 1 1:33:37

I'm going to go work on an oil rig Because I get two weeks off. Very nice. Very nice. Alright, we're at the top five, I think, to the audience. I'm sorry, but we'll get through this as quickly, but as casually, quickly, as casually as possible, sure, so it's rushed like a good podcast, whatever. Yeah, this is the best episode we've ever done. This is a fun one. So we have chick, who's played by will patten, again to remind people, uh, he's coach yates in the.

Speaker 3 1:34:05

Uh, the uh, remember the titans that's probably the thing most people will know him from. I would say yeah, um, it's like in the postman with kevin cosner and stuff. He's always just that guy. He's always standing next to the lead.

Speaker 1 1:34:14

Yeah, he's not the lead, but he makes appearances in Yellowstone. He's in the Postman right.

Speaker 3 1:34:20

So I think him and Kevin Costner are just friends.

Speaker 1 1:34:22

Yeah, no way out, they're just buddies, he's in the Forever Purge, gone in 60 Seconds.

Speaker 3 1:34:27

Okay, he is in Gone in 60 Seconds. He's Nicolas Cage's right right hand man. He's just good at playing that loyal guy and with that I'll. I'll lead off here. Uh, chris rock. All right, I kind of played off of uh longest yard, but I think chris rocks.

Speaker 1 1:34:45

he's gonna have those comments right, and when adam sandler is shooting at our aj, he's gonna be like I really think you should do that. I don't know if you should like a little bit of the common sense guy, but he'll have some good wisecracks in there as well, for sure. Who wants to go first? I'll?

Speaker 2 1:35:00

go, yeah you go. I picked Tom Hardy. I think that he would handle the sentimental moments with the son and the ex-wife and all of that I think he would handle all that really well.

Speaker 1 1:35:11

It's a smaller role for him, but it's an ensemble.

Speaker 2 1:35:12

We've got a lot of stars bouncing around here I think he would work really well with the cast and plus with like that he could put on just like a minor southern accent and stuff.

Speaker 1 1:35:19

I think oh yeah, I think he'd do great this man's won. What was it? A jujitsu tournament, yeah oh goodness gracious.

Speaker 2 1:35:26

But yeah, he's. I was gonna say, he's my chick it's not helping your argument, ali.

Speaker 1 1:35:29

That's all I'm gonna say, I know. Have you seen, bronson?

Speaker 2 1:35:32

Listen.

Speaker 1 1:35:32

no, but For the record if I had done my 2025 cast.

Speaker 3 1:35:36

This is the first time we would have stepped on toes, because he was my Harry Stamper.

Speaker 1 1:35:39

It was Tom Hardy in 2025. I think it too, yeah.

Speaker 3 1:35:41

Very nice. Well, who is your chick? My chick in 1990 is Billy Crystal.

Speaker 2 1:35:46

Yes, I like it. I like that. It's not something he's ever kind of done before, but I want it.

Speaker 3 1:35:52

90 yeah, I want it.

Speaker 1 1:35:54

That's a good one nice, real loyal friend I love and I think he could play rough. Have we ever cast some dirt on?

Speaker 3 1:36:00

willie like billy crystal's face. How have we never cast billy crystal before? I don't know, but I just did it. Man wait movie in any of these movies. Oh, I thought you meant all movie. I was like I don't know, I don't know if we've ever cast him before this is the first time casting I love.

Speaker 2 1:36:13

This is like my second or third podcast, where it's been the first time for an actor to be cast, which is an honor.

Speaker 1 1:36:18

Yeah, We've talked about him as Miracle Max in Princess Bride, but we've never cast him Well now he's in 1990, armageddon.

Speaker 2 1:36:25

Hey, there we go, and he's going to say why do you have a scene?

Speaker 3 1:36:36

with the wife and daughter. So well, yes, yep. How do y'all feel about that scene? By the way, I think it's good, I think it's done. That's it infuriated my wife really. She's like, oh, now he's good enough for her oh well, that's fair.

Speaker 2 1:36:43

That's I mean.

Speaker 3 1:36:44

Given the circumstances, I had to say like they don't ever come out and say it, jube, but I think he's like a gambling addict yeah, you know, they find him in vegas. His one request is like one week at Caesars for saving the world.

Speaker 1 1:36:56

I think they handle the scene really well. It's not a lot of exposition, it's not a lot of cheesy lines, it's just. You don't have to tell him who I am, just give him this.

Speaker 3 1:37:06

That's not a salesman, honey, that's your daddy.

Speaker 1 1:37:08

My wife went oh now he's good enough.

Speaker 3 1:37:12

Well, juby, I think he's made mistakes. This I was like well, Juby, I think he's made mistakes. This is a big correcting course. He's redeeming himself in the biggest way possible.

Speaker 1 1:37:20

And just throw out real quick. In my version I'm going to give Maya Rudolph the wife role.

Speaker 3 1:37:25

All right.

Speaker 2 1:37:25

Okay, I like that.

Speaker 1 1:37:27

I think, that her and Chris Rock will play off each other well yeah.

Speaker 3 1:37:29

Aren't they married in real life?

Speaker 1 1:37:31

No, oh, I was about to say what's the movie In? Grown Ups, grown?

Speaker 2 1:37:35

Ups. I don't remember. It's been a long time.

Speaker 1 1:37:39

Yeah, that's probably what it is, because Selma Hayek is with Adam Sandler With.

Speaker 3 1:37:41

Adam, of course. He's like the hot chick's with me.

Speaker 1 1:37:45

It makes no sense. The funny guy always wins, Corey Come on.

Speaker 3 1:37:51

It just goes back to Flintstones. Man Fred didn't deserve Wilma. It just goes back to Flintstones, man Fred didn't deserve Wilma, but he earned her love, corey.

Speaker 1 1:37:55

Yeah, it's true. Okay, yeah, he plays the wife of Chris Rock's character in the sequel, Grown Ups 2.

Speaker 2 1:38:01

Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 1:38:02

Those Sandler heads. Now you know they're all screaming at me. Of course it was Nick.

Speaker 3 1:38:06

It was the second one. Grown Ups 2 sucks.

Speaker 1 1:38:08

Okay, dan Truman, allie, I'll make you go first. Billy Bob Thornton, the person we stay with probably through the whole movie.

Speaker 2 1:38:15

You guys are going to roast me. It's just going to be hot men all over. It's Michael Fassbender. I give it up, that's good though I think it would be a good one.

Speaker 3 1:38:24

Okay, he'll be really good, but in the one role where you could have gone with a non-traditionally attractive man, you went with Michael Fassbender attracted to the guy that I cast as Never mind.

Speaker 2 1:38:34

I'm not going to justify myself to you two. Shut up.

Speaker 3 1:38:39

But he would do really well. He'd do a great job.

Speaker 2 1:38:42

I don't want to hear it from either one of you.

Speaker 1 1:38:44

He could also be a good Jason Isaacs role, as well as the scientist.

Speaker 3 1:38:48

I could see that.

Speaker 1 1:38:48

He could deliver that very well.

Speaker 3 1:38:50

And he gets to keep his accent in that one. That's right, there you go, that's true it accent in that one.

Speaker 1 1:38:52

That's right. There you go. That's right, it's an easy paycheck for him.

Speaker 3 1:38:55

Corey, who's your Truman? Alright, this is gonna sound this is pandering or whatever, but it's Gene Hackman in 1990. Okay, Moment of silence for Gene Hackman. We're just paying honor here, but he's gonna kill it and he gets the one F-bomb in the movie and Gene Hackman's gonna deliver it.

Speaker 1 1:39:10

It's such a good.

Speaker 3 1:39:10

F-bomb too. It's such a good, it's so good. I paused it just to explain to my wife the rule of one F-bomb in a PG-13 movie and I was like you've got to really use it, you've got to nail it, and this is an example of when to use it.

Speaker 2 1:39:22

You effing know it. You effing know it. Oh man, it's so good.

Speaker 3 1:39:31

Oh, it's stupid face.

Speaker 1 1:39:33

But it's a role that really is suited for Gene Hackman. Like 100% too.

Speaker 3 1:39:37

He's really good at this, like the retired cowboy kind of role you know. And now he's just watching life passing by.

Speaker 1 1:39:43

That's right, but he's still, you know commanding and he's someone that it's almost a. It becomes a little bit more of a father figure for the main character, harry. But at the same time they have a mutual respect. They have for one another too, so it means more when you get that patch to him 90% of Billy Bob's lines in this movie are huge.

Speaker 3 1:40:03

Every time he talks it's like we're learning or we're getting a good moment. So you need a Gene Hackman, you need someone who can just say lines like a pro.

Speaker 1 1:40:11

So I went all the way beyond that casting. Because it's the Sandler verse, I did a gender Ben.

Speaker 3 1:40:17

Oh, okay, all right.

Speaker 1 1:40:19

I went with Drew Barrymore. It's a little older, drew Barrymore, she's going to be the suit Tough as nails, she gets to say the F word and she has all the experience as we know growing up in Hollywood and stuff too, and she's not just she's in Adam Sandler movies, but she's been in a wide swath of different types of movies. So I think she can. Just it'll be a fun flavor to add to this whole movie.

Speaker 3 1:40:41

I think so. Well, here's the cool thing about that. Now listen, I would never recast Billy Bob in this movie, under any circumstances.

Speaker 1 1:40:58

But speaking of the movie with billy bob, yeah, because, like herself, you know he says the line like you don't need to be here and she's like I have nowhere else to go, so she's kind of like becoming a surrogate father would then add the whole mother figure character in there, which we don't have.

Speaker 1 1:41:06

Yeah, we reference her, but she's never brought up. You know that would have been interesting, yeah, so, speaking of grace graceper, played by Liv Tyler, who I want to know who you guys picked, but I'm going to throw out really quick some people that were considered Nev Campbell turned it down for scheduling conflicts with Party of Five, mila Jovovich considered but passed, and Robin Wright was approached but declined the role.

Speaker 3 1:41:28

So we have Liv Tyler, nev Campbell, mila Jovovich and Robin Wright. I hate all those.

Speaker 1 1:41:33

Liv just works.

Speaker 3 1:41:34

Liv works, liv works, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 1:41:37

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:41:39

Maybe I undersold her acting because I can't see the other. It's if Robin.

Speaker 3 1:41:42

Wright seems too grandiose at this point. I mean, she's like buttercup. She'd be better as co-pilot, as the co-pilot on the ship. Yeah, she's Jenny, we can't have her in.

Speaker 1 1:41:52

No, no, no, no, I think Liv Tyler belongs on it If you think of name me an underrated actor, liv.

Speaker 3 1:42:00

Tyler gets to be on that list. Yeah, no, I think she's underrated. Yeah For sure. Yeah, huh.

Speaker 1 1:42:05

Well, who do you have? Corey, for a year. I love Neve.

Speaker 3 1:42:11

Campbell, but I don't 1990, it's julia roberts. Oh yeah, yeah, she's the third lead man. You're right, you're right, okay, it's a big movie, big, big ensemble a-list disaster. Yeah, okay, she's coming off.

Speaker 1 1:42:24

Pretty woman, mystic pizza is pretty woman happened, yet I don't know it's eight, is that 89?

Speaker 2 1:42:28

I don't know. Is it in the early 90s? So good pretty woman?

Speaker 1 1:42:31

I'm definitely not 1990.

Speaker 3 1:42:33

Okay, so same year. Oh, same year she's gonna play Grace and a prostitute Excellent.

Speaker 1 1:42:40

Daddy Harry's gonna be so proud of her.

Speaker 3 1:42:41

So this is the year she breaks out, kind of, because before this is like Mystic Pizza and Flatliners and things like that.

Speaker 2 1:42:48

Steel Magnolias, oh my god Steel, Magnolias is so good.

Speaker 1 1:42:51

When are we?

Speaker 3 1:42:51

gonna recast Steel Magnolias.

Speaker 1 1:42:53

Whenever you want. I guess it's our podcast.

Speaker 3 1:42:55

You guys can kind of do whatever you want. Okay.

Speaker 1 1:42:59

Um, I'll go next. I went. So there's, as far as I know, there's only been one age appropriate person in the Sandler verse. That's played his daughter, and I'm just going to continue on with that, Even though it was an animated movie. Selena Gomez, I don't know. I checked the age. Yeah, what anime Hotel Transylvania. She's the daughter.

Speaker 2 1:43:17

Oh yeah, I forgot about that movie. Right, You're like what movie was she?

Speaker 1 1:43:24

in, I don't, but yeah, I think she just. She's, you know, one of the girls of our time, and of that time for sure.

Speaker 2 1:43:45

It's the age appropriate of that era be the Sprouse twins better. So who we have?

Speaker 1 1:43:47

left Allie who is your grace.

Speaker 2 1:43:48

My grace is Brie Larson. Okay, I think she would do a great job. Yeah, and uh, she, she, the. The scene where she's saying goodbye to her dad would really be touching. I don't know if y'all have seen room, but she's fantastic. Not yet, because that's the movie that pretty much got her. She went from that to Captain Marvel, basically it's.

Speaker 1 1:43:56

So this will be a nice, uh, a nice big movie. That's the movie that pretty much got her.

Speaker 2 1:43:57

She went from that to Captain Marvel, basically.

Speaker 1 1:43:59

It's so good, so this will be a nice big movie. That's not.

Speaker 2 1:44:02

Captain Marvel. Yep, it's right before it.

Speaker 1 1:44:04

And if you don't know, she's also in Scott Pilgrim.

Speaker 2 1:44:06

She is in Scott Pilgrim, one of Scott's evil exes. She is, yeah, she's fantastic. I love her.

Speaker 3 1:44:13

Okay between better talking on a screen to your child from space. Is it interstellar or armageddon?

Speaker 1 1:44:20

oh, I mean, well, it's different.

Speaker 3 1:44:24

It's different because yeah, that's what I'm saying, though, but still, it's like it's.

Speaker 1 1:44:26

It's a message from space on a screen one is like one's okay because it's like I'm saving the world, I'm doing this, I'm doing so. This is a goodbye message in the purpose of the movie in an interstellar it's like a heart wrenchingstellar it's like well, like he.

Speaker 2 1:44:39

It's the middle of the movie and he just feels like he's failed well, and also you have casey affleck, you know, talking like, showing him, like like with his son, and then it showed, and then he's like oh, we buried him next to mom we almost named him koop, koop, kooper yeah, get all worked up thinking about the interstellar.

Speaker 3 1:44:55

I watched her stuff like two months ago and I was like man, this movie's so good, it's so good.

Speaker 1 1:44:59

It's one of my favorites, that's when you have to, like you have to sit down, make sure you don't answer your phone like just take it in.

Speaker 3 1:45:04

Oh God it's so good, oh wow.

Speaker 2 1:45:06

Good choices all around.

Speaker 1 1:45:07

Good choices all around the top two AJ Frost, ben Affleck.

Speaker 2 1:45:14

I know you love him, I do. This is the one role.

Speaker 1 1:45:16

I was tempted to pick a Sandler guy but I didn't because I felt like he needed kind of a heartthrobby type guy to make it serious. Keep it in that. Enough seriousness. Enough of like this is a romance kind of thing Because like Andy Samberg is not going to work. I'm sorry. Yeah, as much as we love him. But, I'm going to go with another guy of the time, and it's zach efron oh my god, I love that one.

Speaker 2 1:45:38

That's great, because it just works like he he and he can be funny what's the reverse?

Speaker 1 1:45:42

thing is he, he's not, it's the one, it's the one break from the sandler verse, because I was like I needed somebody that and I didn't want to cast the dude from twilight, uh that robert pence no, taylor, oh, taylor lautner, my bad, my bad would not, I can't, I can't cast him no, he just he's not. He's not. I can't believe him in anything, even as a werewolf, um, but yeah, I think he's just has that. He can be funny, but he also has leading man role, like Ben Affleck does, for sure.

Speaker 2 1:46:05

Yeah, no, absolutely I. You guys have no idea how obsessed I was with Zac Efron, Like I had Can you tell us in song. No.

Speaker 1 1:46:16

I don't think I can. I thought I tried. No, I just, I'm overwhelmed now High school musical moment there for you. I'm overwhelmed, I know I'll give you a moment, corey, who is your AJ?

Speaker 3 1:46:24

Wait, hold on. Who is your chick? My?

Speaker 1 1:46:26

chick Selena. That's right I didn't do a high school reunion. I stayed away.

Speaker 3 1:46:29

Wait, Selena was your Stop being misogynistic for two seconds, chris Rock. I hate it now.

Speaker 1 1:46:40

Why do you hate it now?

Speaker 3 1:46:42

Where's the guy who's in all?

Speaker 2 1:46:44

the Adam Sandler movies. They were cones.

Speaker 1 1:46:48

Oh, you're talking about.

Speaker 2 1:46:49

The guy.

Speaker 1 1:46:51

The lead of Grandma's Boy. I had him as the scientist and I swapped him out for Rye Syphons.

Speaker 3 1:46:56

I am upset that he's not in this movie. I'm not watching your movie.

Speaker 1 1:46:59

He's the scientist at the beginning who's like?

Speaker 3 1:47:01

fumbling the words to explain he should be chick, because he's been around since the beginning, damn it gory's like this is all useless this is all worthless start over oh my gosh I'm sorry, I'm just now thinking back. I was like, wait, I haven't heard that guy's name yet, even though I still can't think of his name.

Speaker 2 1:47:16

Yeah, I don't know what his name is, but I know who you're talking about.

Speaker 1 1:47:17

I had him written down. That tells you how not of a big name he is. He's not a big name, but he's been there since the beginning. It's Alan Covert. Yeah, Alan Covert. He's in everything.

Speaker 3 1:47:25

Yeah, he's the caddy in Happy Gilmore. I didn't realize that for the longest time.

Speaker 2 1:47:33

And such a dumb line he would have been a good rock hound man.

Speaker 1 1:47:38

He could have been.

Speaker 3 1:47:39

He could have been but David Spade was right there.

Speaker 2 1:47:41

Yeah, david Spade, that's true.

Speaker 3 1:47:43

You just blew a chick.

Speaker 1 1:47:44

All right anyways, so we are still on AJ AJ.

Speaker 3 1:47:47

AJ, and you said Zac Efron.

Speaker 1 1:47:49

And who do you have?

Speaker 3 1:47:51

I have Alexander Winter, Bill S Preston Esquire. Interesting From Bill and Ted oh as my AJ in 1990. Nice.

Speaker 1 1:48:00

He's just coming off, bill and Ted. Interesting, okay, interesting, not the typical heartthrob type.

Speaker 3 1:48:05

Listen, Keanu, I don't know that he.

Speaker 1 1:48:08

Keanu can do the animal cracker scene.

Speaker 3 1:48:10

It's going to be weird.

Speaker 1 1:48:11

That's what I was about to say. I was like Keanu kind of would have been like the choice.

Speaker 3 1:48:15

No, I think it's the rest of the movie. It just it feels too Keanu when it doesn't need. I don't think Keanu's going to do that I love you, harry thing at the end without it kind of being a little weird. Have you seen Point Break?

Speaker 1 1:48:25

It's a little weird man. It's a bogey moment on the beach.

Speaker 3 1:48:27

Yeah, but it's kind of like that scene's a little cheesy.

Speaker 1 1:48:33

His sur place he's taking his spot.

Speaker 3 1:48:35

Yeah, we kind of other than you know it's fine, it's fine it's still. It's weird man. You know it's fine. A lot of people died. You got to go down yeah, I don't know. I'm going with Alexander Winter. He was a stage actor. I think you can pull off like the more heartfelt with Julia Roberts okay, let me throw Alexander Winter a bone here we can't cast Keanu and everything. It's okay, we gotta get the other half probably the first time alexander winter's ever been cast probably made attempts.

Speaker 1 1:49:05

That's why we got rid of the director all right, ali, now that you've calmed down for a moment, I'm sorry sorry to call you out who's your hot aj he is.

Speaker 2 1:49:14

he's like a Zac Efron adjacent God.

Speaker 1 1:49:20

Let's hear it.

Speaker 2 1:49:21

It's Dacher Montgomery who played Billy from Stranger Things, which I know you don't like Stranger.

Speaker 3 1:49:24

Things. I don't know about the Stranger Things that much, but he plays Billy, he plays what's-her-face's brother, he's the badass guy with the mullet, yeah, and I feel like they could totally like grunt.

Speaker 2 1:49:32

He also was the Red Power Ranger in the 2017 Power Rangers movie.

Speaker 3 1:49:36

Oh, I didn't bother with that, it's so underappreciated. It's a fun movie.

Speaker 1 1:49:39

It's alright, it's fun, but I cast him because he's a heartthrob.

Speaker 2 1:49:46

At least this time it works with the casting.

Speaker 3 1:49:49

How would you feel about a Joseph Quinn in that role? I?

Speaker 2 1:49:52

don't think he could pull it off.

Speaker 3 1:49:53

Because, I wrote that down for my 2025 version.

Speaker 1 1:49:56

I could see it more in 2025, but I don't label him as like a Ben Affleck, zac Efron Hard Drop type. All right, sorry.

Speaker 3 1:50:03

So like my other two, for that was Paul Mescal- that would have been good.

Speaker 1 1:50:06

That would have been good Hot guy. He looks like a roughneck. Can you do an American accent? I'm sure Probably. Of course you can.

Speaker 2 1:50:20

He's not. Huh, non-americans can do all the acts, yeah, but I mean some don't. Though, like I haven't heard, I don't know if he's been in a movie where he's an american, it would have been fine. We've just been cool gosh.

Speaker 3 1:50:25

Yes, please my question, though, because I also wrote this name down. I know I didn't do my 25 list, but I did want to ask all this because I think this is controversial. But the guy looks a little mangy, the where I think he could work on an oil rig. He he would just have to buff up a little bit. Chalamet, he's got the wispy facial hair.

Speaker 1 1:50:41

I thought about Chalamet for mine. Yeah, because I was kind of like, could he be like? He would have to beef up, though he didn't quite meet the age range was my problem, but also he's Chalamet yeah he's Chalamet.

Speaker 3 1:50:54

He looks kind of dirty. He makes more sense than Efron man.

Speaker 1 1:50:57

But at that point he's like that's true, respectfully disagree. Alright. Well, while we're contemplating heartthrobs, we're moving on to the final rule. I was just saying, I think.

Speaker 3 1:51:08

Chalamet is a hot guy who looks a little dirty.

Speaker 1 1:51:10

That's fair.

Speaker 3 1:51:11

I feel like you could find a guy that looks a little bit like Timothy Chalamet, with a gross wispy mustache on the oil rail.

Speaker 2 1:51:16

I mean he does kind of have a gross wispy mustache right now.

Speaker 3 1:51:19

He's doing the.

Speaker 2 1:51:19

Bob.

Speaker 1 1:51:20

Dylan thing. Guys, come on, give him a break. I'm not hating on him. I'm not hating on him. He's the chosen one. Guys, come on.

Speaker 3 1:51:23

You can definitely do that. I love you, Harry. Scene at the end.

Speaker 1 1:51:25

You could.

Speaker 2 1:51:26

He definitely could.

Speaker 1 1:51:33

Absolutely.

Speaker 2 1:51:34

of the movie I picked Adam Sandler because my cast kind of depended on it. That would kind of be crazy if you did Adam Sandler and you didn't cast him in anything, or just he was like and this is.

Speaker 3 1:51:44

Alan Covert. That would have respected it.

Speaker 1 1:51:51

I just think it weirdly works. Like I said, you keep the Bayhem and that aesthetic and that tone and you just insert, because they're all just a bunch of roughnecks like yeah, they're just a bunch of dudes, so like his gang works in this, it does work because it's a weirdly like these guys shouldn't have had careers right but their best friend became famous, yeah, and he made movies and put them in right, you know, and it works in that roughneck mentality of like these guys shouldn't be in space.

Speaker 1 1:52:16

And here they are but in any other universe, yeah, it's gonna be a comedy, it's gonna be ridiculous, but in this one it's like we're right in that line, baby yep, but I think he, I think Adam, can pull it off because it's like and we haven't got a lot of time to talk about him, but he's shown range absolutely.

Speaker 2 1:52:30

He's great in uncut gems.

Speaker 1 1:52:32

Yeah, just between uncut gems and you know Billy Madison's of the world.

Speaker 3 1:52:35

I think you can take something like the Longest Shard, where he isn't being this goobity-doo guy, he's being like the straight guy.

Speaker 1 1:52:42

Exactly, that's exactly it. You take that mold of him and it fits perfectly into this role, because he also could be a roughneck. I can see him with the shotgun, wanting to shoot his daughter's boyfriend Wearing basketball shorts and a hoodie. We're going to play pick up later. I'm picking.

Speaker 3 1:52:59

I'm picking terry cruz I want to hear your hot guy, harry s I mean, I um all right, I'm just when you have a long list of hot guys. Right now I'm just going through and picking through.

Speaker 2 1:53:12

No, it's um nicolai costa wall walden game of thrones someone help. He plays jam Lannister and I think he would be a good Harry Stamper Because he's kind of a little dirty looking. We saw him be a little dirty looking in Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1 1:53:25

Okay, you went less like movie star.

Speaker 2 1:53:27

Show me how to turn this man.

Speaker 1 1:53:29

I have to remember how to spell his name is the problem.

Speaker 3 1:53:36

I'll just decide. Jamie Lannister yeah, he's still trying really hard to be the thing they're all trying really hard okay, Listen, they needed it.

Speaker 2 1:53:42

I mean after Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1 1:53:43

Anyways, but I think he would be.

Speaker 2 1:53:45

I'm sorry, that was rude. It was honest, I think he would be a very good Harry Stanker.

Speaker 3 1:53:52

No, I see what you're going for. No, I some of his weird B Netflix movies. Yeah, I'm like yeah, you do good.

Speaker 1 1:53:56

Yeah, okay, I'm proud of my list your hot list, my hot list Hot ones in space.

Speaker 3 1:54:01

Oh my God, oh my God, space babes, all right, 1990. We're all back in time. Yeah, there was one man and one man only I will give you who almost up the role way too much.

Speaker 1 1:54:16

He would have made it about himself.

Speaker 3 1:54:20

I don't like it. I don't know. I mean, Sylvester Stallone impresses me more often than he doesn't, but I don't like it.

Speaker 1 1:54:25

It wouldn't work, it didn't fit. So who do you have from 1990? One man.

Speaker 3 1:54:29

Michael Keaton.

Speaker 1 1:54:32

Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, michael Keaton, oh, that's going to hurt so bad.

Speaker 2 1:54:35

Oh my god, that's so good, that's so good.

Speaker 3 1:54:41

Michael Keaton, Bill Murray.

Speaker 1 1:54:45

I mean, they're all there. I'm already in pain watching him pull the trigger. Oh man, Aerosmith's playing in the background. She loves him. They all love him. Of course they do. These men will go to space for him and for their families and lives.

Speaker 3 1:54:58

He's just coming off Batman. People have faith in him now. They're all wrong about Batman. They're like alright, let's watch this.

Speaker 1 1:55:03

I believe it, Leading man Michael.

Speaker 2 1:55:05

Keaton, that's good, I like it.

Speaker 1 1:55:07

Excellent, well done. Can Gene Hackman get to have?

Speaker 3 1:55:10

a chemistry. Everyone works so well with you, so you guys suck at this.

Speaker 2 1:55:15

Bill Murray hey, I liked my cast okay.

Cory's Muppet Casting

Speaker 1 1:55:19

Kevin Bacon pulls a gun on Michael Keaton oh my god oh my gosh, yeah, my movie rules alright, alright, corey, we gotta wrap this up.

Speaker 3 1:55:31

We're running late yeah, but can I say my Muppets cast? Yes, why not? Alright, so the president is Sam Eagle. Alright, dr Ron is Beaker and Honeydew.

Speaker 1 1:55:40

They get to do the cool firework scene. They show it, they mimic it.

Speaker 3 1:55:44

Yeah, and Beaker loses a hand.

Speaker 1 1:55:46

Yeah, exactly, but his hand comes out of it. It was just fake.

Speaker 3 1:55:51

Dying a second time in one of my movies Is Bean Bunny as Oscar.

Speaker 1 1:55:56

He's got an Owen Wilson energy about him.

Speaker 3 1:55:59

He's lovable he gets to ride a horse while helicopters are coming at him.

Speaker 2 1:56:05

So he gets his moments, and so my Max is Fozzie, of course, so that's sad when he dies.

Speaker 3 1:56:11

Waka waka. Lev the cosmonaut is the Swedish chef, of course.

Speaker 1 1:56:18

He's beating it with a fish.

Speaker 3 1:56:21

Bear is.

Speaker 1 1:56:22

Bobo the bear. Of course, if it wasn't him it would be Sweetums. Yeah, but Bear is Bobo the bear. He fits in a spaceship and he's lovable.

Speaker 3 1:56:31

My General Kinsey is Ralph the dog. Colonel Watts is Camilla the chicken.

Speaker 2 1:56:38

My William Sharp. Is Rizzo sharp, is rizzo the rat rizzo the rat is the one that's gonna pull the gun okay, and be my hair as he would, as he would, yeah uh, rock hound is gonzo perfect yeah, yeah, of course it has to be. He's riding the new, he's shooting the machine gun.

Speaker 3 1:56:51

Yeah, he's he, he spent all of his money on a stripper.

Speaker 1 1:56:53

there's a kubrick reference that I didn't get until this watch and I was like God, I'm a cinephile now Damn it.

Speaker 3 1:57:00

A chick, and I consider Sesame Street part of the Muppets. So chick is Ernie. Okay, my Truman is Kermit the Frog.

Speaker 2 1:57:08

Perfect, and he's going to have the little brace on his little frog leg. Great way to get Kermit out of the lead role.

Speaker 3 1:57:13

He gets to say the F word and you and you're off a nerd and so yeah, yeah, it's gonna be good. Grace is Miss Piggy. Okay, obviously, there's not a lot of female Muppets.

Speaker 1 1:57:23

Janice. Janice and Miss Piggy are your male, my. Aj is Ben Affleck yes, oh, you kept the human.

Speaker 3 1:57:27

He's my one human, yes, doing the animal crackers on Miss Piggy, do you think people? Are doing this right now and he's playing it straight man. And then Harry's Bert. Wow, Bert's going to be the one to make the sacrifice play and. Ernie has to. You know, go back, Bert doesn't know how to fail.

Speaker 2 1:57:47

Oh my God, that's so sad, that's heartbreaking.

Speaker 3 1:57:52

While my Rizzo the rat's saying they got to go back. He's like give him one more minute.

Speaker 2 1:57:58

Ernie's just give him one more minute. That's incredible. That is good, oh my gosh. And then Ben.

Speaker 3 1:58:02

Affleck telling Bert how much he loves him.

Speaker 1 1:58:04

Oh, so wait, yeah, bert's the tall one, ernie's the shorter one Okay. Got it? Yes, Just making sure we get okay, bert would.

Speaker 3 1:58:14

Normally he's leading this. Okay, I like it.

Speaker 1 1:58:17

That's all I got to say. We've gone long, but it's been fun.

Speaker 2 1:58:20

This has been a really-.

Speaker 3 1:58:20

It's a long movie, almost as long as the movie so you can listen to this podcast and watch the movie in the background. Mute it in the back. It'll be great. It'll be a good watch. By the time Aerosmith hits the song at the future in a role, but she survives. Who was he in? Who'd I Make Mean Bunny? He was the guy that shoots himself.

Speaker 2 1:58:45

Oh my god.

Speaker 1 1:58:48

Well, that's our episode Make sure to follow, like and subscribe at the heart. Follow us on at Quantum Recast at all the social medias. I'm still working on that Blue Sky profile, but follow us everywhere else.

Speaker 3 1:58:58

Corey, that's it All right, that's Armageddon, thank you. Ali, it's told by the Muppets 1990, 2018, and Adam Sandler.

Speaker 2 1:59:04

That's right.

Speaker 3 1:59:05

So, Ali, thanks for joining us. It's always a pleasure.

Speaker 2 1:59:07

You're always here to witness history.

Speaker 3 1:59:13

This was a fun one. This. I'm realizing now, but you know, what I'm gonna stand by it, you should just every time you're on it's like so the hot guy cast for this movie is hey do not tempt me.

Speaker 1 1:59:23

This one's for the girls.

Speaker 2 1:59:24

Hey, at least bring in more female listeners at least I didn't, at least I didn't cast Henry Cavill.

Speaker 1 1:59:30

I will say, that could have he could have been AJ, he's just too buff, he could have been Harry.

Speaker 3 1:59:35

He could have been Harry Henry, as.

Speaker 2 1:59:37

Harry, no, not in 2018.

Speaker 3 1:59:40

He's still buff. Anyway, that's Armageddon. Hope you enjoyed it. Say goodnight Nick. Goodnight Nick.