Quantum Recast: Your Favorite Films, Recast In Different Years
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Quantum Recast: Your Favorite Films, Recast In Different Years
Indecent Proposal: Demi Wanted Moore
A million dollars for one night with your spouse - would you take the deal? This provocative question sits at the heart of the 1993 film "Indecent Proposal," and it's made Cory lose sleep, even thirty years later.
Cory and Nick analyze this infamous film, noting how the first act brilliantly establishes the tension, only for the film to transform from erotic thriller into romantic comedy. After deep diving the plot they also explore how this premise would change in today's world. Would one million dollars even be enough anymore? Would the power dynamics shift with our modern understanding of consent? And which current actors could step into these iconic roles for a remake?
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Hosts:
Cory Williams (@thelionfire)
Nick Growall (@nickgrowall)
Co-Hosts (Season 6):
Aly Dale (@alydale55)
Ash Hurry (@filmexplorationah)
Cass Elliott (@take5cass)
Terran Sherwood (@terransherwood)
Voice of the Time Machine:
Kristi Rothrock (@letzshake)
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Nick Growall
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Welcome to another episode of Quantum Recast. So, nick, now you see me, now you don't. I'm just going to give you the floor up top to get this out of your system, listen man.
Speaker 2:I know that everybody's waiting for our 30 years too late thoughts on this Woody Harrelson movie. But, corey, a lot of weird stuff happened on April 1st With a different Woody Harrelson movie A different Woody Harrelson movie. But, corey, a lot of weird stuff happened on April 1st With a different Woody Harrelson movie A different. Woody Harrelson movie. Like it was a weird April 1st because stuff that actually was true was being announced and I was like that's not real.
Speaker 1:Like the Beatles biopic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like that's not real, that's fake, that's fake news.
Speaker 2:I kept having to tell you like no, nick, this is legit, they, there's literally a because, and and other people have brought this up to me, so I guess it's become a thing that I have a reaction to. But, corey, like how, how do you make a movie based off of a phrase and use half of the first phrase for the first movie now you see me and not go hey, let's just use the second half for that sequel and instead just call it now you see me too, which is already egregious, cory yeah, that's pretty gross, pretty gross like, because it sounds like now you see me too right, you also see me yeah
Speaker 2:which, but to have the audacity to not say now you don't for the second one commit to your bullshit and just say three now you see me three. But to come back around and think that it's okay to now say now you don't yeah, in all fairness, the whole title is just now.
Speaker 1:You see me now. You don't right. It's not just creatively now you like, I get it.
Speaker 2:It's a long title I get it, but you set yourself up for it, it's true, even if you thought well, maybe there'll be a sequel.
Speaker 1:We don't know so your issue is which, don't get me wrong, it is a very passionate feeling you have for a pretty like forgettable movie it is. I I have no idea if it's I never saw. Now you see me. It just looked like a shitty version of oceans.
Speaker 2:11 kind of it's like with magicians, with magicians, just with magicians.
Speaker 1:With magicians. I love Jesse Eisenberg's newest movie with Kieran Culkin that just got him all the awards, but I don't like Jesse Eisenberg in almost anything else.
Speaker 2:That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 1:And so him as a leading man that's supposed to be suave.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there was that weird run. They gave him like Zombieland and stuff he did good in Zombieland.
Speaker 1:He did good Obviously, but they were playing into Obviously.
Speaker 2:Zuckerberg was incredible, yeah they were playing into his weirdness. But with this one they were like no, he's a suave, charismatic guy and you're like I don't, it's not there. It's like when you try to make Nicholas Holt anything other than the creepy guy or the side character. I guess, yeah, he works as Renfield, but the movie Renfield didn't work other than Nicolas Cage.
Speaker 1:But he was better in Nosferatu as the cuckolded.
Speaker 2:He was. He was better in Nosferatu, where he belongs, corey.
Speaker 1:Like you're playing the cuckold in the vampire story.
Speaker 2:That's right, this is your spot.
Speaker 1:And so, and I'll say this, I do think that Eisenberg has a weird charisma to him. I like him as an actor. I just didn't get that in that role. That was a weird. I just thought I don't know if he's supposed to lead this.
Speaker 2:And the thing is, I don't know if I'm coming off super passionate, but I feel as if I'm almost tired.
Speaker 1:No, you're just mad. It was an opportunity. I'm not mad. The first movie is Now. You See Me. I've been mad. They made a second. It should they're just. Yeah, there's too much shit going on in the world for me to be that upset about it, like one day if there's a box set, DVD. If they still make those things. It's going to say now you see me, Now you see me too. Now you see me, Now you don't.
Speaker 2:There's going to be a lot of confused. It's just inconsistent. In 30 years some relative of mine, my nephew, is going to be like, hey, I watched this, really watched the sequel yeah isn't it called? Now you see me. Uh, now you don't, nope no, it's not.
Speaker 1:What if they had said now you see me too. Now you don't like die hard to die harder, what? If it now, you don't at least be in the sub. I could almost accept that okay, you would have at least been okay like yeah, I get it's a long title.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're working with it, like you're acknowledging the honest truth that we all know. Yeah, it's almost the only second worst offender is the bad boys series.
Speaker 1:Oh, my gosh nick I'm, so I was gonna bring it up.
Speaker 2:I was like.
Speaker 1:I was like I was like I have one of these. It's, it's bad boys. They say bad boys for life. Yes, all throughout the the first two movies and then they named the third one bad boys for life, man cory this just then they made a third one. That's just called ride or die and it's like you couldn't have made the third one ride or die, and you couldn't have given us four numeral four life for the fourth one cory.
Speaker 2:This just continues my belief that their hollywood is run by idiots it's run by idiots, and creatives just have to try to work with those idiots even ai would have done better even ai would have said are you sure you don't want to just do nice? I mean, I don't, it's gonna tie in really well. And they had to go go, nope, to put a two in front of it all right.
Speaker 1:Well, now that that's off your chest better, yeah, I just didn't think you'd be able to talk about a decent proposal with that, and just gnawing at me for the past week a microphone in front of you, just want to yell about now you see me. You have a microphone in front of you and you just want to yell about Now, you See Me which is now a trilogy. That's so wild. Who's been? Who was asking for a third, one of those I don't know In the last 10 years? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Why can't we make movies, Corey?
Speaker 1:I don't know why does no one want our movies? I don't know. But it's fine, they get our podcast. That's talking about the what 1993, 94, 93, 93 movie indecent proposal odds are, if you don't recognize the movie when I tell you the plot, you're gonna go ah, or you just still will be like sure, I feel like everyone's heard the plot and I feel like indecent proposal has been referenced in other pop culture things.
Speaker 1:Now, just to you know, reference some really lopsided deal yeah, yeah but it's a 1993 movie, okay, and the plot is a billionaire offers a man one million dollars just for one night with his wife. Yes, and I remember it coming out as a kid. I remember adults talking about it okay, you know it's not anything I really wanted to watch. It seemed boring you know my, I hadn't hit puberty yet. So I was just like whatever, this sounds gross, ew sex. And so I watched this recently, nick, it was just on something and I thought you know what? I'll give it a shot.
Speaker 2:It's Demi Moore, I mean yeah.
Speaker 1:It's Woody Harrelson. It's Robert Redford.
Speaker 2:Super 90s babe, demi Moore, woody Harrelson on his, still holding on to that hair, Yep, yep, it's still there, barely.
Speaker 1:Robert Redford, maybe at his peak.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not sure. Old man peak, old man peak Like he's really just look, how good I look. Like I'm old but I'm still charming the pretty Clooney.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how great I'm getting like. I just keep getting better looking like a fine one baby and so, um, but yeah, and I watched it and I I had, as soon as I like watched it.
Speaker 2:I think I text nixon like we're gonna have to do a podcast on this movie and I thought I have to talk about and I thought you were talking about like a simple favor yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:We had like a 10 minute conversation where you were talking about a different movie. I was just saying going.
Speaker 2:Oh, really interesting. Yeah, that's not what I thought that movie was at all, and then I finally was like oh.
Speaker 1:I don't know what you were talking about.
Speaker 2:It's the Blake Lively movie that came out a couple years back, which is also getting a sequel.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right.
Speaker 2:I think it's called Another Simple Favor, which makes a lot of sense for a sequel title. So if you were to, make a sequel than Indecent Proposal. 2. More indecent, more indecent-er, less decent.
Speaker 1:So I listen this is going to maybe be a short podcast, because I just needed a microphone to vent this movie or just talk about this movie You're still processing. I am processing this movie for a lot of reasons, because it is kind of like this weird I don't want to say erotic thriller, it didn't like have Michael Douglas or anything To finish out our story with this movie.
Speaker 2:Corey, you watched the movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You had many thoughts and questions.
Speaker 1:And you hadn't seen it, so I was like watch it.
Speaker 2:And then you made sure I watched it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I said watch this, Continue we're. Yeah, I said watch this because we're going to have to talk about this on the pod.
Speaker 2:So, as is tradition with most friends, if you watch a movie that just infuriates you, you have to make your friends watch it. Yeah, and of course I watched it.
Speaker 1:I know what to talk to about this and my wife refused and once I told her what the movie was about, she was like I'm not watching. That. That's horrible.
Speaker 2:Sounds about right, but I did watch it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I pretty much had the same reactions you did. I was live texting you as it happened. Did you feel a sense of relief?
Speaker 1:I mean I'm glad someone else experienced it, because the only other experience I have with anyone watching this is our buddy Christian.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:He like listen, Christian and I both dated actresses for a while, and if you've never dated actresses, occasionally they're in plays where they kiss other men. Sure, and that's something you got to deal with.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I had had experience with this. I was a seasoned vet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Christian was still new, and so he's still going through the throes of like what do you mean? They kiss in theater. It's like I don't know man, this is like literally there's an episode of this in every sitcom ever Like you know, it's always. Arnold getting to kiss or Doug getting to kiss Patty or Arnold kissing Helga.
Speaker 2:It's like it's in everything.
Speaker 1:So this shouldn't shock you, but when he was in this relationship, which was very rocky and I'm sure he'll he doesn't care if I talk about this now. He's happy, he's married. And so he watched this movie and it rocked his world. He like he like text me said, don't ever watch this movie and I was like, okay, he's like you know, he's just like I, you know, he was just having a lot of trust issues.
Speaker 1:Like it's just it's just he was in a weird place, you know, and he watches this movie where, yeah, like is, Demi Moore and Woody Harrelson are married.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And, but they need some cash.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:They've invested in some land and they're about to lose it the dream home they want to build it. He's an architect he's going to build this dream home. He's designed for them. It's you know very how I Met your Mother before how I Met your Mother.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah and got it later.
Speaker 1:for sure, for sure they go to vegas to try and turn what little money they add into more money and it seems to work.
Speaker 1:Initially, they're doing well until they push it and they find themselves at a low. But then robert redford spots to me more across the casino that's right, and he's a billionaire and he's a good-looking billionaire and those aren't real and that's one of the problems with this movie, and so um and yeah, so he offers him money he does. And then the rest of the movie goes off the rails. The problem with this movie, corey, is this like four movies in one.
Speaker 2:It doesn't know what it is. That's the problem.
Speaker 1:It is a. That's why I think I need to talk about it. It's not that like. I mean, I think I was shocked because I thought the whole movie was will they, won't they? Okay, that was always going to be the movie that was like the midway point. Basically, oh my gosh it was like it's like the. It's the end of the first act yeah, it's like they, she does it. They agree okay to me more. Go sleep with this guy for a million dollars and we'll be fine and then it's just the fallout and then, and then I.
Speaker 1:But I thought the whole movie was going to be a will they won't they type of thing and like, and maybe it being the 90s, the happy ending is they don't, I don't, I don't know. And so once it happens, immediately I'm like what is the rest of this movie? Yeah, you know, and to answer your question, it's like they don't know. They made like three different movies that all run simultaneously.
Speaker 2:Because it's weird, because it turns into Robert Redford's trying to steal away Woody.
Speaker 1:Harrelson's wife A rom-com kind of thing, a rom-com?
Speaker 2:Like it's like the writers and directors just forgot the first act that they wrote of this movie and we're just like, we're just gonna make it where. Like they're like they're having trouble and robert redford's swooping in to like be the good guy. It's like no, he paid a million dollars to sleep with a married man's wife.
Speaker 1:It's like, it's like 30 minutes in, they fire the director yeah and and he said I'm gonna rewrite some stuff because the first 30 minutes has a very set tone. Yes, like of this couples and dire straits. They're super in love. It's well written, like the scene where they're playing pool and Robert Redford's making the offer. It's really well done yeah and he's being all like and he's being kind of nihilistic.
Speaker 1:He's kind of being like everything's for sale, love's not real right, you know like and he makes the offer and they say no right and then there's the great scene where demi more I don't I doubt it was intended that way, but with 2025 lenses totally gaslights her husband into agreeing to this, like she just straight up I mean you're okay, anyone in this situation is gonna to go to bed going. Did we make the right? The million dollars?
Speaker 2:a lot of money.
Speaker 1:It's going to get in your head and you're going to try to be like sex. Isn't that big of a deal? I mean you're going to start.
Speaker 2:It's one night for the rest of our lives. They're in bed doing this. They're both in bed going. That's a lot of money, you know, just not talking and then she just literally.
Speaker 1:I would do it if you wanted me to Puts it in his court, and that's how she phrases it. She's like, if you, he doesn't say a word. She's like, well, if you wanted me to, I would totally do it. And it's like, oh my God. And Woody Harrelson's like, well, I don't want you to, no. And then she's like I mean, then she's again. It's like I mean, it's just one night, it's just sex, wouldn't mean anything. And she pretty much talks him into this.
Speaker 1:And he's like all right, I guess. And the problem is then they do it All of her plaque comes in and he's a good time in this movie, the movie where two people are pitching a script to him and he's supposed to be like their entertainment lawyer that's, that's the best scene in the whole movie, because they're like our last agent or last lawyer wasn't tough enough. And then they literally overhear him talking away to harrelson saying I'll finalize the deal for this man to sleep with your wife. I could have got you two if you'd come first.
Speaker 2:and they're like you're a guy. You're like you're gonna sell your friend's wife to a billionaire for incredible and so, but like woody harrelson, he like tries to chase helicopter down.
Speaker 1:It's too late, they go to the boat. The genius part of the movie is they never show robert redford to me more. Do anything? Nope, like, not even once. Nope, like there's like I don't even know if we see them.
Speaker 2:Kiss, maybe, like maybe because that puts us in woody harrelson's brain yeah, we have to imagine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what happened?
Speaker 2:that's actually brilliant because we're kind of like it is how long it went yeah was it multiple times?
Speaker 1:I mean in nick, we're proving the male brain. Right now we are proving the male brain, which is exactly. I need to know details right, I need to know how big, how long, like, like, like duration times, you know, and's just like which? Of course we don't and we don't want to know really, but we're going to demand it and that's the following scenes and it falls apart. It's Woody Harrelson. Like they've agreed never to bring it up.
Speaker 2:See, that was their mistake. That was the mistake.
Speaker 1:And Woody Harrelson, whoever wrote it, whoever wrote the script, real script, real well said this is what a man would do. He would immediately talk about it and I need to know if it was good, if it was better than me.
Speaker 2:The mistake they made, cory, was that they should, he, he should, and it was it's on him. It's on him because he should be like look you go do it. We talk about it one time yeah I'm gonna ask for details. We talk about it one time and then we never talk about it again like I meani Moore brings up.
Speaker 1:There's a great piece of dialogue in the movie that she says that kind of defaults the whole purpose of that. She's like okay, either I lie or I tell you he. And it doesn't say lie, she said either I tell you he was bad and it was boring and you just assume I'm lying. Yeah, or I tell and I was like that's true, because at this point you're going to lose. Lose if you're Demi Moore and he wants to talk about it, that's true, yeah. So I get the let's not talk about it.
Speaker 2:It's a weird movie because like, yeah, there's plenty of it that is well thought out and well written, but then but that's the last good scene, nick, yeah, that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1:That's it, because then it win over, like, like we're watching a j-lo rom-com movie once they have the giant fallout and woody harrelson moves out, it becomes robert redford, just kind of showing up and being charming in her life yeah like going to the classes she's teaching and like he's like got the whole class laughing and like, oh, I'm pursuing you and I'm a billionaire and I'm super charming yeah and like oh, you're a real estate agent, let me let you sell me a really expensive house.
Speaker 1:I'm going to fill it with all the things you told me, to including two cute dogs. It's like what am I watching?
Speaker 2:right now. Yeah, like it's really weird.
Speaker 1:It turns into just the most like weirdly odd romantic comedy where you're like dude, you broke up their marriage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like it's, then he does yeah.
Speaker 1:The movie wants me to root for you now. The movie wants me to root for you now. I'm confused and then, going from one romantic scene with them two to the next scene, is Woody Harrelson's life just spiraling out of control.
Speaker 2:He is just in class. He's trying to teach.
Speaker 1:Living in a shed with his dog.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the worst, and he tries to win her back and that doesn't go well either.
Speaker 1:There's a really odd. I mean Rip Thorne and Bill Connolly are in this movie in weird roles.
Speaker 2:Isn't Bill Connolly as Bill Connolly as Bill?
Speaker 1:Connolly, and I just don't remember a time where Bill Connolly had that kind of star power. To be like this is a big deal if Bill Connolly's running.
Speaker 2:I mean Muppet Treasure Island was kind of a big deal.
Speaker 1:I guess I'm not saying I'm not a fan. It just seems like they probably propped him up. It's like this was the biggest star in 1983.
Speaker 2:Right, it was pre boondock saints as well, so like yeah it's not like he's just this known actor at that point.
Speaker 1:And so I I mean I, he might've, maybe he's big overseas. Maybe, it's, it's wild. There's this really like poorly written thing about hippos in it that plays a massive part.
Speaker 2:Okay, people are. We're losing people. Yeah to to explain, because you're never going to watch this movie. You're relying on us.
Speaker 1:We're going to give it to you I mean you should watch it just to experience the the absolute chaos that this movie there's like a bid on raising funds for animals yeah, noel conley's the mc man.
Speaker 2:He's selling rich people animals, right but basically like but I don't think like you can. Can you buy the hippo, or is it just like I'm donating?
Speaker 1:money.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's one of those things where you give someone a lot of money and you get to go to a zoo and say that's my animal, yeah, yeah I think it's one of so like they're doing a bidding war and robert redford, like you know, raises his sign up and then, from the back, in a dramatic manner, woody harrelson's like one million dollars, because he's just spending the million dollars that redford paid him to sleep with his wife yeah on the hippo for his wife yeah, because she lets she, because she lets woody harrelson keep the money yeah because she's now dating a billionaire.
Speaker 1:Right, she's somehow like there's a part where she's like you can keep the money and it's like f you lady, like you really think that makes his life better why a hippo that's the. That's what I meant by poorly written Nick. They keep referencing hippos in the movie but I don't ever remember the scene where hippos are a big deal A tiger.
Speaker 2:What narrative use does a hippo tie into all this?
Speaker 1:There's some flashbacks that allude to. They went on some first date, maybe to a zoo, and they saw a hippo.
Speaker 2:But I don't think they ever explicitly state that she has a thing for hippos.
Speaker 1:It's just at the end. We now know that the key to. Demi Moore's heart is to buy her a hippo.
Speaker 2:So this is just the plot of Snow Day.
Speaker 1:Kind of Other than like I mean that scene's only important in the sense that Robert Redford could have 100%, said a million dollars.
Speaker 2:I was waiting for him to just go two million.
Speaker 1:He literally could have done it. He's a billionaire. He could have just been like but that's the problem.
Speaker 2:See, that's the problem. We've talked about this. Is that, Robert Redford? The problem with this movie is no one's a dick, no one's a total dick. They don't go full heel on. Robert Redford had been a piece of shit, which was more likely because, hey, he already paid a million dollars to sleep with a married man's wife.
Speaker 1:He already bought a person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, so, like I was waiting for him to go two million dollars because I know this guy doesn't have jack.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because that million dollars is, I gave him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's my million dollars actually.
Speaker 1:But like that is part of the problem, but like it, at least in that scene it shows that Demi Moore is not worth a million and one dollars to Robert Redford, that's true, because he could have.
Speaker 2:He could have.
Speaker 1:You know. But again the problem is they'd never go full heel. Yeah On Robert Redford. It's like they know that he's the villain, but it's like someone in 1993 said we can't make. Robert Redford a bad guy, but you can, but you can.
Speaker 2:And that's the problem. So at the end of the movie sorry, we're way past spoilers for this, so just turn it off and watch it later but he literally realized, like after the hippo thing, he decides to like break up with Demi Moore, basically by telling her like oh, you're just one of like 12 women I've done this with. Oh yeah, robert Redford does this. Yeah, to like get her, the intention being to get her to break up with him, which I thought that I was going to be like. This reveal that like oh, this is where the heel turn shows up.
Speaker 1:Yes, I'm literally in my house going finally.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, he is saying like I'm a dick, you're just like number 12 of the million, 12 of the million. He calls it the million dollar club. Yeah, yeah, you know. And he's just like, and you're like, oh, finally, he's like, he's revealing that like dude, you don't mean anything, you're just here until I find my next million dollar but they literally portray it as like.
Speaker 2:She like reads into it as like oh, you're trying to give me the easy way out.
Speaker 1:Thank you, she says him on the mouth. It's like you haven't learned anything to me more. You're still cheating, Even after your epiphany. You still choose infidelity over your husband, who you haven't divorced yet. Well, no, technically, woody Harrelson signs the paper at the hippo auction I don't know when it's, but that night they pretty much break up. Yeah, I mean like I don't know what constitutes the divorce. I don't know if the lawyer still has to file something. I don't know if they're still technically divorced.
Speaker 2:I mean he's a billionaire, he can get it wiped.
Speaker 1:That's the thing with the whole hippo scene as well, man, is that Woody Harrelson shows up and it's just too weird. That's the problem with this scene Bill Connolly's chewing up scenery and, and like we're at this place where you, as the audience, do, we're kind of like as a normal person who doesn't have money, 99% of the audience is going like wait, rich people go to things where they buy animals for lots of money. It's totally not relatable. No, this would have been so much better if they were like at a car auction.
Speaker 2:Something, because you're just like oh yeah, rich people buy cars, yeah you know, and it's not bill conley, you know, just up there.
Speaker 1:So the scene's already too weird. It's too fixated on bill conley and hippos. And then so when woody harrelson dramatically says a million dollars, and it's supposed to be this heroic moment, yeah, it still just leads up to him coming up to her and saying, like him, apologizing I'm not really sure for what he slept with nobody.
Speaker 2:True.
Speaker 1:And he didn't really want to do it in the first place, Corey it sounds like you're just mad at Demi Moore. I think they don't write Demi's character well, because I think at the end, when you analyze this movie, she's technically the villain and I don't think she's intentionally meant to be the villain.
Speaker 2:I think it's just the way they wrote I think they just didn't know how to write it. Yeah and uh, right, they're ending this scene's gaslighting woody into it.
Speaker 1:Woody wants to stop it before it happens yeah he kind of pushes her to say the sex was good, um, and that kills him inside, sure, and then they split up and she essentially just starts and she gets swept up by a millionaire man. I'm sorry, but she kind of proves this point that the horrible point that Robert Redford makes at the beginning of the movie is, like anyone can be bought, love's not real. She kind of proves it, man.
Speaker 2:But don't worry, because Robert Redford's a good guy, Corey.
Speaker 1:That's the like. But the whole hippo heroic scene is just for Woody Harrelson to come up him apologize and then say here's the divorce papers. Go through with it. This is where you're supposed to say I love you and I don't want to lose you.
Speaker 2:F Robert Redford it would have been if they had just made him simply just go two million and just do it so cocky and just look back at Woody Harrelson and be like, yeah, I know you ain't gotten shit yeah, it would have been.
Speaker 2:I don't know, it would have helped because at least then he's like thinks he won and then woody harrelson just has to go. I had to try, you know I had, I had to see if I could win you back, kind of thing. But yeah, he signs the divorce papers. I mean, even if he had said that, and then he's.
Speaker 1:But he's like this is what you want, than here like I want you to be happy it's this weirdly like okay, it's a clunky scene because of all the things I've mentioned hippos and bill connelly it's already all over the place and you're kind of already as the viewer going like what is happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But the fact that it's supposed to get to like this moment of Woody Harrelson showing up and essentially sacrificing his million dollars. It's a weird thing that that just leads up to him signing the divorce papers. It's like or just keep the million if you're going to divorce her Right.
Speaker 1:I don't know what you're trying to prove here man yeah, I don't know, because and that's the problem, nick that's supposed to be woody's big moment of winning her back and said he signs divorce papers and you know who gets the big moment. You know who gets the big moment robert redford the billionaire robert redford, who caused this whole damn problem because he's horny nick I mean like that's the thing. He didn't fall in love with demi more across the room.
Speaker 2:He just wanted to have sex with her very clear at the end that's a power dynamic.
Speaker 1:That's a cuckold thing. That's a like she's married to you and I kind of into that with the movie I've changed if woody harrelson had to watch hmm, like at like go full, like he had you definitely, um, yeah, probably like a he knows what happened yeah b they get the million dollars.
Speaker 2:C it makes redford kind of dark and twisted.
Speaker 1:I get what you're saying. Okay, now we're in the philosophy of like. Is it worse knowing your wife slept with another man? And you have to just guess what happened and what all happened.
Speaker 2:Or watching it almost unwillingly, or watching it, yeah, like there are people Because they don't have to guess, there are people out there that don't mind, that are into that lifestyle.
Speaker 1:Nick is not kink shaming.
Speaker 2:I'm not kink shaming, but in this scenario the characters you have portrayed is the husband. Clearly doesn't want, is not interested in that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The wife seems to be somewhat interested in that. Enough to say yes to it and convince him to do it.
Speaker 1:I mean I just like 12th or 13th woman doing this, yeah and like if your kids are listening, maybe don't ever let them listen to our podcast. But like if they are, like this is we're getting into the sex talk now. And like I get what you're saying, nick, because I think that is a theory you have to ask. Like all right if he had been invited into the room to watch. He isn't in his own head.
Speaker 2:Because I think that that also somewhat lines up better with the first act of the movie. He's whining and dining her. He's kind of you know, he's just putting. He's basically saying who has the bigger dick competition? And then to just sit there and make love to somebody else's wife and just keep a shot of him looking over or something and Woody looking away or being ashamed of it or something.
Speaker 1:But if Woody's there, there's a chance where Demi and Woody get to look at each other during and connect intimately and emotionally that might make him feel comfortable, like it's like. Well, she's still into me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's the big, that's the big thing, that's the big. Tell like if they make eye contact and it's more of like a I'm doing this for you kind of vibe, or or if it's like, oh, she's really into this kind of vibe.
Speaker 1:That's a gamble.
Speaker 2:That's the two ways you can go with it, like he can be, like I saw it in your eyes. I saw that you enjoyed it and that it wasn't just business for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean like that depends. That would depend on Woody Harrelson's like fragility.
Speaker 2:And I think that's the thing needed. You needed him to be fragile, which he was, but you and you needed redford to be worse yeah, oh, we definitely need robert redford to be worse, because at the end to me more kisses.
Speaker 1:Him says thank you and then his like weird bodyguard. That's in the movie it's like what are you talking about, boss? You don't have a million dollar club and he's like she'll never look at the me at the way she looked at him right, and it's like wait, so he's a good guy. No, just pull the trigger. No, he has a million dollar club and he uses women and he's a terrible guy like the worst.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, there should have been a mid-credit scene of his private jet crashing and we all cheer, yeah, but instead it's just nope.
Speaker 2:Robert redford's actually just the best guy in the movie, and woody harrelson his whole arc is just like getting cuckolded for a million dollars he's nicholas holt in nosferatu honestly 100 like he just gets nothing out of this yeah, now to be fair to him and nicholas holt, they try, they do try to be active members of the story tries really hard like he's and but but lily rose depp misleads, she's like, yeah, go to go over there to kill him oh, it's legitimately a cuckolding session.
Speaker 1:At the end of Nosferatu, it's literally like hey, honey, could you go out and get some eggs? And then invited the neighbor over like Nosferatu, david Eggers, nosferatu goes real weird. In the end it's just like what is so? They're genuinely sending him on an errand so those two can have sex. But if you think but Willem Dafoe's in on it, he, he's like he is in on it. He is telling her you gotta sleep with this dude.
Speaker 2:But to be honest, though, not to completely shift gears, but at the end of Nosferatu that's kind of what's set up to be is like they're connected, obviously, and like Nicholas Holt and them are gonna go die if they try to go fight Nosferatu in the traditional way and I'll tell you right now if Nicholas Holt had been in the room and watched what happened, he would not have been that threatened like Nosferatu's body's gross.
Speaker 1:It looks just like they kind of spasm a little bit and then it's just over and they're dead. He would have not been threatened by that at all, probably not, no so but we, even as the audience, don't know if Robert Redford was incredible or not.
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 1:I mean, we just know Demi Moore at some point does say yes.
Speaker 2:It was good, that's fair.
Speaker 1:But that could mean anything, you know, so yeah.
Speaker 2:So, corey, we've already like deep dived this quite a bit. Let me just take a pause for our audiences. We're going to give them a little bit of critic stats here, so we can just know how the omelette was made. Corey, are you ready for this? Yes, for the way too late, useless critic stats and information.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true, that's true, so indecent.
Speaker 2:Proposal 93 the runtime is 117 minutes under two hours. The director is adrian line uh, best known for flash dance nice. Nine and a half weeks, fatal attraction dang.
Speaker 1:He was unfaithful. He was just into into infidelity.
Speaker 2:He was, he was that's his thing. He was like let's go.
Speaker 1:You're lying to me. This director directed all this. All of the dangerous slutty erotic thrillers oh my gosh, that is incredible.
Speaker 2:He just had a kink.
Speaker 1:Man oh, that's awesome. Hey, he knew his lane and just said I'm really good at now.
Speaker 2:here's okay, here's where some things start to make sense. The writer uh is amy holden jones.
Speaker 1:It's based on a novel by jack engelhard yeah, which apparently is more about, like, middle eastern conflict interesting. I mean, that would make more sense because, apparently, it's set in the middle east and it's more about, like, oh, a person from this country pays sleep with another person from this country, and it's more about, I guess, middle East politics. Sure, and it is about money and capitalism.
Speaker 2:I mean that gives a whole different dynamic to it, because then it's like he, the millionaire or billionaire at that point, doesn't view Demi Moore as a human. Yeah, you're cattle to me, like you're, you're a, you're a thing, an object of my desire amy holden jones wrote are you ready for this?
Speaker 2:yes, mystic pizza okay beethoven the dog movie all right and the other notable thing is the relic of 97 nice, so solid. So you're seeing like mystic pizza beto family friendly, rom-com era, like world stuff. Right, forgive me, I don't know if I've even seen mystic pizza, but that's what it is right yeah yeah uh, producer sherry lansing, uh cinematographer, that's not really important, but he also did fatal attraction, lolita and man in the iron mask. Uh, this, howard atherton. The movie's budget was 38 million.
Speaker 1:It made jeez it made 266.6 million worldwide gory man, a lot of people want to seea lot of people wanted to see. I mean, I guess I mean 90s trailers suck. I'm sure it's just like will he or will she or? Probably all right and then when the first 30 minutes, they're like, oh, she's already done it, what? What are we doing now?
Speaker 2:critic stats imDb got a 5.9 out of 10. The fans gave it a 5.9 as well. Rotten Tomatoes 34%. Critic audience score 42%. Metacritic 35 critics 5.4 audience members Letterboxd it's sitting at 2.8 overall. We both gave it two stars.
Speaker 1:Okay, this is pretty middle of the road, pretty middle of the road. Do you want to guess what our dear friend roger ebert's had to say? There's no way roger ebert liked this movie. There's just no way he?
Speaker 2:there's no way he gave it three out of four stars, cory so he was having a good week that week. It is artificial, manipulative. In the real world this sort of thing would never happen in this way. But then that's why we line up at the tick window. We want to leave the real world for a couple of hours anyway. Why would you say that about this movie?
Speaker 1:I don't know, that's an Avengers quote. It really is.
Speaker 2:That's not a hey. I want to look at an infidelity erotic thriller. The movie is a very old tradition in which love is put to the test of need and desire and triumphs in the end.
Speaker 1:Not need and desire Money. Yeah, money, money. It's put up against money.
Speaker 2:It's main awards, corey, because it won some Golden Raspberries in 94. It won for best worst picture, worst supporting actor for Woody and worst screenplay.
Speaker 1:Wow, okay, for best worst picture, worst supporting actor for Woody and worst screenplay.
Speaker 2:Wow, okay, and it was. Everybody else got nominated as well, including the original song you Love Me in All the Right Places.
Speaker 1:Tell me, Whitesnake wrote that Lisa Stansfield Dang just sounded like a Whitesnake song.
Speaker 2:It did win Best Kiss for the MTV Movie Awards. Between who, though? Between Demi and Woody?
Speaker 1:Okay, alright, See, alright, alright. It's like because if it had been for Demi and Robert Redford, then we're just supporting the infidelity.
Speaker 2:And it was nominated for Best Female Performance and Most Desirable Female as a category in the MTV Awards that year.
Speaker 1:I think this is the movie that more or less did break Demi Moore Like outside of like. I think at this point she's just kind of side woman or kind of rom-com woman. I think this is what led her to GI Jane and stuff. It was a serious movie. She's coming off a few good men the year before. But, again she's playing second fiddle to Tom Cruise, and they're all playing second fiddle to five minutes of Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 2:Let's look at Demi Moore because she's had a moment. This is good for us. We let's look at Demi Moore because she's had a moment. This is good for us. We're tying into current events. Yeah, she almost won. She lost to a stripper, a Russian stripper, but anyway, irony. St Elmo's Fire in 85. We jumped to.
Speaker 1:Ghost in 1990.
Speaker 2:It's a rom-com.
Speaker 1:It's a rom, it's a romantic.
Speaker 2:Few Good Men in 92. 93 is Indecent Proposal. Then in 96, she's voicing Hunchback of Nostradam. She's in Striptease and she appears in Beavis and Butthead. Do America.
Speaker 1:I think Striptease is where she kind of lost the plot.
Speaker 2:She thought she was going to get an Oscar for that. I would have given her an Oscar for that. Guess what I learned today.
Speaker 1:Striptease is a book.
Speaker 2:Interesting. I used books for today. I saw striptease.
Speaker 1:I read the thing and I was like this is the movie. That's incredible, it was based off a book. I'm going to read it.
Speaker 2:And then 97, gi Jane. She keeps popping up in the Austin Powers movies. Weirdly enough, all three of them actually.
Speaker 1:I don't remember what she is. She's a producer. Oh, she's a producer a rough go of it.
Speaker 2:We get to the substance in 2024. She's nominated for an Oscar but loses to a younger version of herself. Right.
Speaker 1:Which is the plot of Substance Right. It's almost like the Oscars knew it wouldn't be, hilarious.
Speaker 2:Is that every Oscar voter? They're like it's kind of funny, it's kind of funny it's kind of funny if we vote my e-madison listen um. Jamie lee curse got an oscar and brad pitt got an oscar just for being likable what was everything, everywhere all at once, and then once upon a time okay now.
Speaker 1:I think jamie lee's was hey, it's time I think brad pitt's was earned.
Speaker 2:I'll stand by that okay, okay, all right, fair enough, fair enough. Um, what else is there to say, cory? Um, apparently, adrian lynn, the director, and demi had disagreements on set regarding her character and woody harrelson had to act as the mediator between them. Uh, it obviously sparked controversy. Like we talked about discussions focusing on morality and the concept of love being commodified, because we're not even really talking about that. We, we understand. That's what the movie's about. Yeah, we're just talking about the execution of it all no, yeah, the execution is just weird yeah and it's off and like, hey, I'll ask you this.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you this okay because, again, I think I like. I like simple plots. I'm a massive fan of simple plots. Sure, if someone had said, hey, I'll make a movie where this billionaire offers this struggling couple a million dollars to sleep with his wife, I'd be like this is a great idea and let's write it because it's a character study. It's like let's throw all the characters into a pit of excrement and see what they look like when they come out you know and how they deal with it, but it's just executed poorly.
Speaker 1:It's just weird Once the first act's over which is great the movie just goes off. The rails and it's all over the place and they won't commit to vilifying the villain.
Speaker 2:It is a shift of all shifts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just weird. So it's executed poorly. Not that the idea is bad or the theme is bad or the questions it proposes are bad, but let me ask you this Should it not have been Demi Moore? Because to me, demi Moore is just maybe too sex pot. Well, that's, that's the whole point. I think we, I think we needed, like like a more girl next door sex pot, to where we the audience understand, because I think we're meant to know that demi more didn't like go do it for any other reason than the money.
Speaker 1:Sure, I I think we're supposed to believe because I I really like I think the best scene legitimately in the movie is Woody demanding to know the details. And her saying I'm screwed whether I say it was bad or it was good, because either way you're not going to believe me or you're just going to assume the worst. I think she's genuinely trying to say it was just sex.
Speaker 2:So we needed more of a Helen Hunt or something.
Speaker 1:I need Julia Roberts in this. I wouldn't even do Julia Roberts, I don't. I think she'd be a girl. Next, door.
Speaker 2:Listen, you can call Julia Roberts, a girl next door, all you want to.
Speaker 1:She was still a bonafide babe, she's a babe, don't get me wrong, she's a babe.
Speaker 2:But I get what you're saying. Redford targets her because, in this logic, because she's hot.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to look it up, but there's no way Julia Roberts wasn't offered this role, probably because the guy made Mystic.
Speaker 2:I mean, they just made no way. He didn't, he just did pretty woman and I bet that's what I bet.
Speaker 1:She didn't want to play like that again. She's like man. I just played a hooker and now you want me to play a woman that sleeps with a dude for a million dollars. Like no, she's like. I'm tired of making out with Richard Gere. I don't want to go make out with Robert Redford. Give me a someone my age to make out with.
Speaker 2:Others considered for a decent proposal included Tom Cruise, nicole Kidman, johnny Depp, tim Robbins and William Baldwin. All I see is Nicole Kidman.
Speaker 1:Really See, she's too sexpot man.
Speaker 2:So I get where you're kind of coming at, because if you have more of like a girl next door type, we'll say Helen Hunt for example, An innocence to them, like a very like you know, Like it's it becomes less like, if she's the one going, I mean, I would do it for you. I guess there's less of a thing of like, well, she's this beautiful person that is always approached in some way like this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like she just already like kind of has a high opinion, like I know I'm really attractive and it makes sense, you know like. I, I needed more of like the innocent kind of give me Anna Kendrick like now you know not to like hop into like thinking of what this movie would look like now, but like well, that's what we do, that over Margot Robbie.
Speaker 2:Sure, of course, margot. Robbie's going to go sleep with the billionaire, but then it because but then I guess then but, and logic of the billionaire changes because it's not just my million dollar club of like I'm going to find the hottest women that are off limits to me and pay my way in. It then becomes like I'm going to look for a villain.
Speaker 1:He wants to destroy innocence.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's trying to destroy, like he would see them and say like, oh they're.
Speaker 1:They're like a young, actual in love couple, like genuine couple it's also this I think it's like when I say sex pot, I'm not talking about just aesthetic, I think I'm talking about like vibe. Sure and maybe just like even the vibe of their career with the retrospective, like it's kind of like Marilyn Monroe versus Julie Garner, who played Dorothy. Why can't I think of that name?
Speaker 2:Judy Garland, judy Garland.
Speaker 1:Kind of that. It's an era of innocence versus an era of like sex pot got kind of thing so like in modern context, sydney sweeney versus yeah like an anna kendrick or or someone like that like that kind of whole thing. Like I think it weirdly changes the tone of it to some degree you know?
Speaker 2:yeah, so, but they can still be attractive. It's just more about, like, who they are as a person in julie garden or judy garland are both super attractive women cindy sweeney and, like anna kendrick, are both super attractive women.
Speaker 1:I think it's just like a vibe you get like in terms of like their personality how hollywood sells them, you know, and it's like why demi moore's being sold as a babe yeah you know where julie robert was being sold as a sweetheart, oh well america sweetheart name Alright okay, alright, you're older than me, you know these things. So I think that would have made me happier, okay, personally.
Speaker 2:Well, let's just transition through that question If we're recasting the three leads and we'll just say modern, since that's easier for us to rack our brains immediately with.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Who do you have?
Speaker 1:Let me tell you this If you made this movie five years before, Before this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you make it like in 1987, 88.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, if you have Judd Nelson in Woody Harrelson's role Ringwald or Sheedy in the other role, let's go Sheedy.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, that works better.
Speaker 1:And James Spader as the billionaire. Oh, the movie's just perfect because James Spader's gross. We can't make James Spader not sleazy, right? Yeah, he's Robert California.
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 1:Always. He's always been Robert California. And I think the movie would just work if that's just the cast just five years before. I just think in a million years it's just like that wouldn't work.
Speaker 2:You know a weird name that came to my brain as we were having this discussion like, if you're doing, we'll say late 2000s, early 2010s. Yeah 2000s, early 2010s, if you've ever watched Alexis Bledel, the girl from the show that escapes my brain right now, the mother and daughter are growing up to their Lauren Graham's in it.
Speaker 1:The Gilmore Girls, the character of Rory that's pretty much Alexis Bledel.
Speaker 2:She's gorgeous, but she's very much mousy and quiet and timid. You get someone like her and you pair her like yeah, someone that's likable like a woody harrelson well, for the, for the sake of the air, I know he's problematic, but like, say, shia labeouf or something yeah, is he still problematic?
Speaker 1:he's apparently. Yeah, I think he's still problematic. I never hear about him.
Speaker 2:Apparently he, I think he beat his like wife or something oh, that's not good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or ex-wife, or girl.
Speaker 2:Allegedly. We can look that up, we can find out. I don't want to accuse people out here.
Speaker 1:You already said it. Why?
Speaker 2:is. Shia LeBeouf, cancelled Addresses. Disturbing allegations of sexual battery and physical verbal abuse brought against him by FKA Twigs in a 2020 lawsuit.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right. Fka Twigs did say like, hey, man, he was a bad dude. Oh, that's right. Fka Twigs did say like, hey, man, he was a bad dude. I remember that. Okay, yeah, you're right, shut up both. Yeah, he's bad news right now.
Speaker 2:But you could get like the guy from the food show, the bear Jeremy Allen White.
Speaker 1:Jeremy Allen White, yeah.
Speaker 2:You could throw him in the Woody role right there. I'm trying to think of somebody modern that would shaylen woodley like, yeah, that could, that could work yeah, I think so I'm like again, like if I was recasting this now like if someone told me I needed to recast this, like today.
Speaker 1:I am gonna get like an anna kendrick in the role yeah like I, because I it, I just need someone that just like seems more grounded yeah you know, um, and again, I do not want this to be interpreted as I'm not saying anakin drinks a track, super track no, yeah, we totally no, yeah, for sure and uh and sings like a g and so um, but like, and then in terms of woody harrelson's like character like I, I really think you can plug almost anyone in that role.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:Give us Nicholas Holt. He plays this really well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, give him Adam.
Speaker 1:Driver. No, no, no, no. Adam Driver's my billionaire. You know why? They need to not be conventionally attractive.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's the problem with Redford?
Speaker 1:He shouldn't have been conventionally attractive, he should have been unconventionally attractive.
Speaker 2:He was 56 years old in Indecent and Proposal.
Speaker 1:I don't know how old Adam Driver is, like my age.
Speaker 2:But I'm just saying like that's.
Speaker 1:But now you can be a billionaire. Much younger Right, true, true, true, except it'd be on. Youtube yeah, back then it was like you had to accrue money over your lifetime. Now it's just like you do dumb stuff, like, let's say, we're making this movie, yeah, in 2025, yeah, but we're just not smart okay, and we're like let's direct this at teenagers.
Speaker 2:Okay, would mr beast be a fun billionaire? That's like that's not just teenage core, that's like elementary people. Elementary, yeah, they're into mr. Really, I thought it was like middle schoolers or teenagers. It's middle school, but it also rides that who's letting their elementary school kids on YouTube. Man, it's just on YouTube. They're fifth graders, they don't need to be on YouTube, man, they're fifth graders and they're like oh, mr Beast, he's so cool he just he's pretty meat predators man.
Speaker 1:But either way, I think Mr Beast would be a fun billionaire to watch seduce awkwardly with weird challenges.
Speaker 2:See, that's where you get Jesse Eisenberg and you just put him in the role as like a Mr Beast or a Michael Cera or something Like. Then it becomes like weird. I don't know if I can do that, you know.
Speaker 1:No, I just want Mr Beast and I want Mr Beast bringing the girl into this mansion.
Speaker 2:He just bought off her and all the doors locked and he's like we're here for 40 days and all these.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, there's a camera there and a camera that is to be fair.
Speaker 2:In my experience around mr beast, that is the extent of his acting ability okay, all right, so it's just, it's that, it's that so he's just gonna be. He's here. He's very quiet, outside of his personality, but when the camera's on he turns it up to 11.
Speaker 1:Hey, man, play yourself, yeah, but you're just really into paying to sleep with women.
Speaker 2:Now, if you want to play older, you could also let Tom Cruise get another shot at being a villain.
Speaker 1:Oh I, mean like 100%, like okay, if we're like going to try and cast it correctly, it's Brad Pitt, brad Pitt's just the next Robert Redford.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, that's right, and he's also 60 something and he looks 30.
Speaker 1:That's the one, and he just has to be charismatic and sexy.
Speaker 2:But he would do it right, Like he would be like no, I got to be a dick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, brad Pitt would go full heel. Yeah, he would go 100% be like nah, I'm not doing this ending. And if there's the scene where Woody Harrelson's character is having to watch like he's 100% make an eye contact with Woody Harrelson. Oh, he would. Oh my I don't know, like if Brad Pitt's looking at you, then you're like, yeah, it's all right. It's.
Speaker 2:Brad Pitt I mean a lot of couples have hall passes, but you're not expecting it to be like the random billionaire that shows up.
Speaker 1:Okay, let me ask you this Is there such a thing as a hall pass of like who I would let my wife sleep with?
Speaker 2:Oh, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1:Like a reverse hall pass. Isn't that the concept?
Speaker 2:it's like no, like the hall pass is like who I get to sleep with like no matter what, like yeah, if they, if brad pitt offers to sleep with me, my wife can't be mad or who she can sleep with okay, and I not be mad, okay, but can I have my own reverse hall pass? Of like my, my hall pass kind of needs to match, your hall pass yeah, it's like because my wife's not attracted to brad pitt.
Speaker 2:So basically I would be like it's like Cause my wife's not attracted to Brad Pitt, but I would be like it's Brad Pitt. It's the indecent proposal hall pass, corey. Kind of yeah, it's like if, if George Clooney came to you and said I'll give you a million dollars to sleep with your wife, who's that? Who's the George Clooney? Who's the Robert Redford that you would say.
Speaker 1:George Clooney, you know would Like call her the next day.
Speaker 2:Send a nice note. He would some flowers, but he'd also be like thank you.
Speaker 1:So much for a wonderful time it's going to be pretty great.
Speaker 2:He probably would fly you out too and let you just traverse around town.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like he's a class act.
Speaker 2:He seems to be, seems to be so.
Speaker 1:Okay. But here's the thing, Now that we've brought my wife into this. I explained this movie to my wife and I asked her to watch it. I was like I need to watch this. I need to watch this movie with someone. She's like what's it about? And I immediately told her she's like no, that seems sad. I don't want to watch like this marriage, this movie about a marriage just imploding. And I'm like it kind of it's like it tries to have a happy ending but it doesn't really their life is shattered they go back to like the up here.
Speaker 1:That again is supposed to play some sort of significant, significant role in their life and I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2:I don't remember referencing the pier. Is that where they saw hippos? I bet it was in that exposition at the beginning that woody harrelson did where he's just like we met when we were like five we've been there since we were kids, like maybe so that's probably probably, he probably referenced hippos and appear and yeah, you know, and then the rest, the movie.
Speaker 1:We've done a podcast now where we just didn't pay attention to the first five minutes and there was a lot of exposition dumping that's on them, yeah so like they go to the yeah, the endings, just they go back to the pier and like she, like takes them back but you're like there's. They don't just get over this. You know they have to go to therapy forever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:It's one thing. I think they could have worked through it if they agreed to therapy after the first fight, where she said yeah, the sex is good. I think if he had said pause, listen, we got into something that we thought we were prepared for, but I'm not. We need to go talk about this with the licensed professional.
Speaker 2:I think their marriage would have got like that's your problem is that it's 1993 and it's still taboo to have a therapist that's true, but instead she's like let's separate for a while.
Speaker 1:Oh, and, by the way, I'm gonna start dating the guy now, like no, now we're done. Now you brought emotions into it and like how good was the sex if you're gonna keep talking to him you know, like you know now you've.
Speaker 2:You've gone too far to me, and this is you can't just go back to the pier and hold his hand like it's it's they, it wanted to be, like this sweet ending or something, and it's like no, like it's a completely shattered marriage.
Speaker 1:You're gonna have to slowly rebuild kind of like I need to shower after this movie. I feel gross for everyone involved, like and also robert redford. I just don't like. You made me hate him by trying to make me like him.
Speaker 2:It's true as an actor.
Speaker 1:I don't even want to watch his movies anymore. I'm just mad that he didn't fight to be more of a villain in this movie.
Speaker 2:He should have. Do you think, oliver, did you feel bad for Oliver Platt, that he needed a shower? Oliver Platt was just the same.
Speaker 1:He's a third movie happening. That's the problem.
Speaker 2:He's in a different movie is, and he's in the best movie yeah of the movie. He's just a nihilistic, douchey lawyer who's like talking about Thornton's movie yeah, he gets like fifth billing now, like on IMDb, because there's only like four people, yeah, and then he's fifth billing as just the extra just a guy. Yeah, he just seems to know everything about Robert Redford yeah, yeah, he's again exposition, yeah, he's like you don't know who that is.
Speaker 1:John gage man. He's got more money in god, you know, I sleep with him, you're like that guy's gonna be real famous in about three years and so um, but anyways, I digress and it's. It is fat, billy Bob.
Speaker 2:Okay, you have to remember he was pudgy back then.
Speaker 1:That's right this was the year before his tombstone.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And so, anyways, back to my wife being a part of this whole thing.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:She refused to watch this movie, so that's why I made you watch it. So we're going to talk about it on this podcast because I just need to talk about this movie.
Speaker 2:It's just that wild it's just that wild and it's just that gross it's.
Speaker 1:It's weirdly brilliant and awful at the same time. Got it, got it, and so I did ask my wife, though, because I think everyone who watches this movie will ask the significant other oh, for sure, all right so if someone offered us a million dollars? You know, and my wife. She's immediately like I'm not sleeping with anyone for a million dollars, like absolutely not. You know, she's like that's gross, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2:Blah, blah, blah and like and I'm like yeah, and I don't really want you to.
Speaker 1:I think I would woody harrelson out yeah, on it like I think I would just genuinely lose my mind, like even even a secure man might just all of a sudden go I'm, I'm an insecure mess you know, and like, so I'm like I don't know.
Speaker 1:But then then the question goes well, what if a woman offered a million dollars sleep with me? My wife whored me out fast. All of a sudden it's less about being a person. It's all of a sudden less about like, like the ethics and morality and our vows. All of a sudden she turns into to me more oh, 100, it's like it's like.
Speaker 1:She's like what's a million dollars? Think about what we could do with that court. We could buy a house, we could put it down payment on. You know, like something you know we could look more than adoption. All this. All of a sudden it's like whoa, whoa. What happened to all the stuff when the, when the shoe was on the other foot. You know like, you're just cool. She's like I mean, it's just like we. She's like she. Again, she's like it's just sex. We don't talk about it, it's a million dollars. Just make sure the check's in my name. And I'm just like, oh my gosh. And so I've gone around asking and this is like. This is a weird double standard this is.
Speaker 2:You're reliving 1993, cory.
Speaker 1:This is a weird double standard, so I I don't I doubt women listen to our podcast. You know we know a few that do. I have found most men are like no, absolutely not. Like no. They all admit I would Woody Harrelson out. Like no, that would mess with me too much. And every woman's like oh my gosh, yeah, a million dollars.
Speaker 2:I mean it's a million dollars, corey.
Speaker 1:She's like what time are you going to be home?
Speaker 2:It's that kind of Well, you know, just let me know when you're on your way home. Just make sure you got that check man. If you can pick up some milk on the way, that'd be great, You're just like.
Speaker 1:Oh, my gosh Like. So I think that's hilarious.
Speaker 2:It is pretty funny, did you ask your girlfriend? I did not.
Speaker 1:Yet I'm sure it like texting my wife while this movie's going on. I'm like, hey, what are we doing in this situation?
Speaker 2:just in case we gotta know what. What's the we're?
Speaker 1:weirdly in a casino pretty often that's true, that's true so like we have one in our town and it's a place to go eat and like what if a billionaire and your family does seem to love vegas yeah, and like sees us. You know like I just want to be prepped okay, yeah, got it and it's. Hey, I'm just gonna say, I would rather you not, but of course she's like well she's like you go for it, Just get that money. I'm just like oh okay, so I'm a prostitute, Cool.
Speaker 2:For a million dollars. Corey. I mean, I get it, but man it's just like come on, babe, Fight for me a little Act like you.
Speaker 1:Don't want me to Get a tear going when I'm getting on the helicopter to be taken out to some boat to be used by some 60-year-old woman. She's planning all the trips she's going to take Now in all fairness in this movie that is me and Jube. If it's Sally Field on the boat, like alright, I'm game. She's in her 70s, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think she is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'll take that bullet. That's my hall pass.
Speaker 2:Corey, that's not a bullet. If it's your hall pass.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh. So yeah, I have found this fun double standard with this movie, when you ask me.
Speaker 2:Interesting 78 years old she's almost 80, Corey.
Speaker 1:Dude in a heartbeat, that's someone's great grandmother In a heartbeat. I'll do it for half that, all right. I mean, I feel like there's nothing else.
Speaker 2:We've just we've lobbed it up to the audience. Now, what would you do in this scenario? And now they're all going to turn to their partners. There's going to be divorces.
Speaker 1:There's going to be some breakups.
Speaker 2:Some people are going to get on Bumble as a couple and to be that people.
Speaker 1:Those people that we're looking for someone to pay us a million dollars to have sex with my wife, one of us, yeah like you can pick, honestly. So but yeah, I yeah, it's this movie. I really would recommend people to watch it, just to experience it okay okay, they just need to. I like I watched this and I watched the like 90s video game based horror movie brain scan in the same week, and brain scan was a more normal movie than indecent proposal.
Speaker 2:I mean you're talking about.
Speaker 1:Edward Furtalong plays a video game in which he murders people in real life there's a weird creepy 80s slasher that kills no one, but he's in the movie. It's odd it's all get out and somehow watching both these movies in the same week. Indecent proposal was a weirder movie and pretty much all because of Bill Connolly and hippos.
Speaker 2:That's fair.
Speaker 1:Like just what was going on.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's time to wrap it up it is.
Speaker 1:This might be the podcast you feel better.
Speaker 2:I feel better having talked about this movie.
Speaker 1:I still haven't texted Christian to let him know I've watched it. I don't know if he's still holding any trauma from it, but I need to he'll be like did you like it? I'm just like hey, man, we're both married now and we're both in happy places, and so maybe we can talk about it now. So, but yeah, I don't know what else to say about this movie other than I hope they remake it one day.
Speaker 2:I really do be sure to subscribe and follow us on at quantum recast. Hold on, stop, stop, stop in 2025.
Speaker 1:Does the money go up? Oh, it has to, especially right now. Well dang it okay, a million dollars, still a lot of money. Still a lot of money for us so I think it.
Speaker 2:I think it becomes even more. I don't know if ironic's the right word, but it becomes like more, like yeah, the billionaire is gonna have a million dollars they can, just because it's not just that they're billionaires anymore, they're multi-billion yeah, and see, that's my thing, zuckerberg, I don't want to ask for five like, yeah, they're gonna yeah at this point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it becomes like the like buying a house in my small town's gonna take half right like you're gonna you're gonna come to the table now. Go like we want 10 yes, and try to work them down to the five to seven right, yeah, and deal yeah, exactly okay okay, I did think that I was like if we remade this movie.
Speaker 2:Now there's no way it would be just a million dollars.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because it, because it, because then, because we were very aware of billionaires, now, yeah, like we'd be, like we want 10 do you think any of the billionaires that we're aware of now like have paid some dude to sleep with his wife for a million dollars, a hundred percent Like, because at that point you're kind of like I could do like they watch the movie and they go, I could go do this.
Speaker 2:Oh for sure You're telling me that the Elon Musk's of the world.
Speaker 1:He's world. He's got like 80 children. Right, exactly, that's right. Okay, yeah, probably him, for sure.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, that's those are my last two questions.
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Speaker 1:I don't want to give it away, but it's more Bayhem, alright well, that's it alright, nick, now that we've talked about this movie that I never thought we'd talk about. But it's fun say goodnight Nick goodnight Nick.