Quantum Recast: Your Favorite Films, Recast In Different Years
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Quantum Recast: Your Favorite Films, Recast In Different Years
Y2K - 1999: The Lost Millennial Mix-Tape
What if Y2K was recast in...1999?
The turn of the millennium was a cultural crossroads that perfectly encapsulates millennial adolescence—an era before smartphones but after the internet changed everything. In this episode, Cory and Nick explore A24's "Y2K," a horror-comedy that asks: what if technology actually did turn against us when the clock struck midnight on December 31, 1999?
The crew talks how this compact 90-minute film captures the distinct cultural essence of late '90s high school life better than most nostalgia pieces. From the tribal divisions between nu-metal kids and pop princesses to the social anxiety of navigating high school parties, "Y2K" serves as a remarkably accurate time capsule of a period that existed between Kurt Cobain's death and 9/11.
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Hosts:
Cory Williams (@thelionfire)
Nick Growall (@nickgrowall)
Co-Hosts (Season 6):
Aly Dale (@alydale55)
Ash Hurry (@filmexplorationah)
Cass Elliott (@take5cass)
Terran Sherwood (@terransherwood)
Voice of the Time Machine:
Kristi Rothrock (@letzshake)
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Nick Growall
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Welcome to another episode of. Quantum Recast.
Speaker 2:Ladies and gentlemen, don't remind me what a house we're not here to talk about that, okay.
Speaker 1:Our other hosts live really far away and they're hard to schedule anything with.
Speaker 2:Well, Allie's down the road now Allie's down the road, that's true, but so we had to pivot.
Speaker 1:Pivot as one of our co-hosts could make it today. So we're going to talk about a movie Cass. That we both watched recently.
Speaker 2:I watched, watched it and told you you needed to watch it. You finally did. You know, I should have picked up the hints. You know, usually when cory says like ask you about a movie, and I'm like I don't know, I haven't seen it, and he's like give it, give it a shot, give it, give it a shot. That's when I should probably know there's there's a reason. Yeah, there's a reason so I guess we're just uh, quantum reacting today yeah, we're just quantum reacting.
Speaker 2:I mean, we'll do some recasting sure um end, sure, sure, sure, we're talking about a movie that kind of came and went. Yeah, it definitely came and went.
Speaker 1:Did not really show up on a lot of radars. I sort of remember it being advertised and never thought about it again until I just saw it on Max's streaming service. And I was just like I'm just going to throw this on.
Speaker 2:I remember seeing it, the trailers, and being like this looks fun, this looks interesting, but don't really remember it until you told me I should watch it yeah, and it took you long enough because I really wanted to talk about it kind of like our last, the last thing that we, that you told me I needed to watch you you practically like nick, I need you to go watch this, that's what it is if I tell you to watch the movies because I need to talk to somebody about it.
Speaker 1:That's really if I'm really being insistent. It's like I have opinions or thoughts and I need someone to also experience what I just experienced.
Speaker 2:I need you to go down this rabbit hole with me.
Speaker 1:So we're talking about Y2K by A24, which is shocking that it's an A24 movie.
Speaker 2:That is kind of surprising. I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1:It kind of concerned me when I saw A24. I was like, really this seems below them a little bit.
Speaker 2:They're branching out, they're trying, they're expanding General love.
Speaker 1:I don't think they should.
Speaker 2:It's slow, it's baby steps.
Speaker 1:It's being the gritty cinephilic studio you are.
Speaker 2:This is the space right here for all the cinephiles, for all the heightened horror people. This is your vibe right here.
Speaker 1:Don't remake 1999's the Faculty.
Speaker 2:That's all this is.
Speaker 1:It's just a remake of the Faculty, but instead of aliens, just machines coming alive, machines coming alive to rip us apart. Yeah, so I mean, it is just this weird teen movie inside of this other thing. Right, it's just. It's a sci-fi horror movie in which they're trying to kill you but you're also just trying to be a teenager.
Speaker 1:You're worried about being popular for some reason to kill you, like if it's the faculty and it's the aliens body snatching all the adults. Or in this movie, where all the machines from life kind of kill you.
Speaker 2:You still care about being popular for some reason I mean, you're in high school, you know it still matters. You kind of hope you end up with, like the hot girl that you have a crush on. You hope you get away from the bully guy that like she obviously has been dating off and on for a while. You you hope your best friend's there. So you're kind of just thinking, well, if I'm going to shoot, my shot.
Speaker 1:It's now. It's now or never. It's now or never.
Speaker 2:The end of the world's happening, you're like, hey, I'm going to die anyway. So I guess I give this off my chest, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I guess, if you have not seen this movie, it's a millennial movie. It really is. It's just a movie about millennials and being in high school during that time. But essentially it's like if Y2K actually happened right midnight happens and then some virus gets in all of the machines and they start banding together to kill everyone. It's a very ridiculous idea of Y2K they don't even try to explain it at all. Growing our idea of Y2K. They don't even try to explain it at all.
Speaker 2:Well, like growing up. Our idea of Y2K, from my understanding, is that it's just that the systems would all shut down Because, like it was the dumb concept that, like computers, weren't designed to count past 2,000.
Speaker 1:Well, it's like 00 was supposed to screw everything up, like you know like everything up yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like something to do with even the ones that 2000 wasn't supposed to have. I remember it being like it starting out is like I mean we can just take some time to talk about how dumb Y2K was. I don't ever remember being like freaked out as a kid. I mean I was like in eighth grade, going on ninth grade I guess kid's a loose term but like I don't remember being really that paranoid or freaked out by it. I just remember it went from like by october. It was like well, the banks might shut down, and it like right it just, it's just gonna fight club the end.
Speaker 1:It's just gonna raise everyone's debt and all sorts. It's like, and you're kind of like, is that a bad? Yeah, we're all like maybe that was the better move, but then by december it's like the nukes are all gonna go off yeah, like the, the y2k scare for for, for you, for you, gen z's and down.
Speaker 2:Let me give you the quick rundown. It's also known as millennium bug. Uh, yeah, it's rooted in uh, date formatting issues, critical infrastructure failures, data loss or corruption. Economic I'm still not seeing the problem, cory economic impact global chaos.
Speaker 1:It was just like I don't know. It just seemed like one of those things someone brought up in news, just. It was like a slow new news year.
Speaker 2:They're just like it's the turn of millennium. What do we? What do we? Got guys, what?
Speaker 1:do we got? I was 14 and I remember if you were my age you're really just arguing about. Is it actually the new millennium in 2000 or is it 2001? Oh, remember that being a big one, because you're like did we start in year zero or did?
Speaker 2:we start in year one Because it's like 2000 is technically like the capping point.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then 2001 would be the start one.
Speaker 1:You don't start Mario. Zero, zero. That was the thing we were all like. Hold on, did we start in year zero?
Speaker 2:AD, or was it one AD? It's just a blank year, like the purge, where, like, there's nothing matters, and it's actually.
Speaker 1:It started in 2001 yeah, and it's just like so.
Speaker 2:I remember you just had that like well, technically it's not the new millennium yet we started in 1 ad, not0 ad I remember my, my mom, I think she just, you know it was the. Well, just in case, just in case it does signal the end of the world, and then the computers go corrupt, like we went to watch a movie oh, I thought she like took you to church.
Speaker 1:I swore you were gonna say she took us to church.
Speaker 2:Man, I'm so glad, I'm so glad that wasn't the choice. You could sit here and pray imagine like it's like yeah, because we've had so many doomsday like 2012 yeah that would not have, I wouldn't have been surprised by it. I was more surprised. I was like, oh, we're going to the movie. Wow, that's, that's cool. Thanks, mom. Yeah, I mean, yeah, the world might end tomorrow. We'd probably be gonna go catch a movie while we can.
Speaker 1:That's the smart thinking you know, what's funny is I probably was at church. That's probably like a youth thing, like more than likely, it's very possible. I was probably at a new year's day at church what day was?
Speaker 2:uh, december 31st 1999. Do we know what's that? It was a friday. Yeah, I guarantee you our youth group some kind of like lock-in yeah, probably just up until midnight. And yeah because I was 11 at that point, so it was 13, so it would have been some some type of middle school thing, early high school thing for you for sure, that's.
Speaker 1:I almost guarantee I was at church after making fun of you for that well, but my mom didn't know how the tables turned that's just where girls were you're not wrong.
Speaker 2:You're not wrong um so.
Speaker 1:So that's all this movie is.
Speaker 2:It's a teen movie surrounded by killer robots that I it feels like kevin smith directed this it does feel a little bit of kevin smith, a little bit of like, uh, you know, some gremlin vibes to it a little bit. It's kind of all over the place small soldiers kind of comes to mind, but it's a fun movie, that's that's the thing I feel like I'm just at this age, Nick, where I appreciate a good time. Well, I know why you appreciate it, Corey, because it's 90 minutes.
Speaker 1:Yes, in and out. Let's do this.
Speaker 2:It's fun, crazy, a little horror. You're a fan of that period of time.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then it's also that it is the first movie I've seen and I think we talked about this earlier. It's the first movie I've seen that kind of nails our generation on the head exactly like watching it, like I think a lot of people look at it and kind of see it as like, uh, nostalgia porn, and they're just like it is nostalgia porn, but it's weirdly like doesn't throw it in your face as much but here's the thing about the nostalgia porn, because I hate nostalgia porn you know, I do.
Speaker 1:You know, I hate like stranger things and things that are just like look the 80s right, you know yeah and so I don't love that. But what I appreciate is that it nostalgia porn, an era that has no identity it does have an identity okay, so this movie made me, give me, gave me hope that my high school years actually do have some sort of an identity, because it seemed like when Kurt Cobain died, all distinguishable decades went away. Nothing has an aesthetic past 1995.
Speaker 2:I'm going to counter that and it's going to get into my thoughts I've had after watching this movie. Is that, yes, there was a scramble. We lost Tupac, we lost Biggie, we lost Kurt Cobain Three spearheading people of rock and rap world movie. Is that, yes, there was a scramble. We lost tupac, we lost biggie we lost kurt cobain. Yeah, three spearheading people of rock and rap world that yeah, pop culture was headed this direction.
Speaker 1:And then they all die and we reset to 1968, aesthetically we were so panicked that we that like bell bottoms came back there was floral designs on everything. It was weirdly well okay okay, you're getting it.
Speaker 2:You're getting ahead of the game a little bit inflatable furniture you're getting that's post, that's post this there's. There's the small window like, but between cobain dying and then about 1998 is when we get into like the futurism and we get into like this, the neon everything, the shiny everything, and there's a little bit austin powers, kind of the matrix happened.
Speaker 2:The matrix happened and everything went kind of dark, neon, yeah, but like there was like the glitter bubblegum pop world that we were living in, yeah. But on top of it, yeah, was the angsty new metal introduction of the world.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. It doesn't have a definable identity to me because it seemed like the world pop culture threw everything at the wall and saw what stuck, and it changed constantly.
Speaker 2:Well, you're talking about a period of time where Zoot Suit Riot was a top single.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm talking about Nothing made sense.
Speaker 2:Ska was a big major player, smash Mouth existed and was on top of the world.
Speaker 1:We just consumed whatever got thrown at us. We didn't have a thing.
Speaker 2:But there is an aesthetic and the movie kind of nails the aesthetic. It goes between industrial, dark, like the nu metal people and the bubblegum pop and for some reason, and the hip-hop heads, the rap, the Eminem world. It's like it all merged somehow together and flowed.
Speaker 1:Kind of. I would just say that what this movie does is, it represents well that everything was convoluted. When you go through the party. It's literally they're showing you how much was going on in 1999.
Speaker 2:But isn't that also? I mean, look at Breakfast Club, Like there much was going on in 1999. But isn't that also.
Speaker 1:I mean. Look at Breakfast Club. There's five different, but that's clicks.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's just like a weird game, but isn't that kind of what it is? It's like the new metal kids are the metalheads, the hip-hop kids are this group, and then the teenyboppers, the cheerleaders and stuff. They're the pop princesses and stuff no-transcript and leather. I mean you're all in your bleach, blonder hair, liberty spikes. Yeah, it's extreme. Yeah, everything, that's what everything.
Speaker 1:Everything was just super extreme, and I think in 1999, because it was kind of like what the hell are we doing here?
Speaker 2:We talked about this Pretty much. From 1998 to 2001 is like this three to four year window where this exists. It's the Y2K era, as we've kind of dubbed it. What happens is 9-11 kicks in and everything shifts.
Speaker 1:Everything shifts the bubble. Everything gets real dark.
Speaker 2:The bubblegum pop slowly dies. The slow death. It shifts into what you're talking about, the bell bot. We got a weird 70s influence in the mid.
Speaker 1:I feel like that was in the 90s.
Speaker 2:I think it was in the. It was more. It started there, but I feel like it also really hit its stride in the mid 2000s.
Speaker 1:You can watch a lot of weird music videos from like the 90s and it's like floral and like it's. I feel like we know what I think it is is the 90s was 60s and we fast-tracked through that into the 70s, into the 70s and then the 80s thing hit in the mid, like 2010s yeah, it was cyclical and I mean, and it's always going to be cyclical on some level, but like but you're right that pretty much after this point there is no new news, new anything like everything's repeating like the like.
Speaker 1:Our gen alphas and gen z are wearing what we wore in middle school and high school to an extent so because when I watched y2k, here's the thing I like and I no one's gonna appreciate this episode, except for people our age yeah, and so what's the?
Speaker 1:hook of our, of our podcast what I like about watching it is I am watching it and my wife's like kind of on the couch half paying attention, um, and I'm like and it is the party scene and it is like the beginning of the movie before all the stuff hits you know, before it shifts into this sci-fi horror movie yeah but like I'm sitting there going gb, like I know all these people in this movie like I.
Speaker 2:That is that kid from school.
Speaker 1:That is because it nails it, because what I think I appreciate about this movie is that, like I think there's two definitive eras of teen movies and I don't think I'm just being like. Oh, I only appreciate the ones that matter yeah because I would. I want a teenager in the 80s, but I think the 80s had the best teen movies. And then there's a second coming in the 90s, like the late 90s, early 2000s, which I am in high school at that point yeah but I just think those movies were good.
Speaker 1:The problem with the 90s ones, though, are they all take place in like california. No one relates to anything unless you're from all of their classes are outside, all their lockers are just like outside and it makes no sense and they're all rich kids.
Speaker 2:Well, john hughes filmed everything in like midwest chicago. Chicago was the city of the 80s, basically yeah. And then like the yeah, the 2000, 2000s was an la era. Like, think about, think about like the beverly hills stuff. Yeah, the 2000s was an LA era. Like think about, think about like the Beverly Hills stuff.
Speaker 1:She's all that. Yeah, and the OC. Everything was like we just want to make movies about kids who grew up in California. That was.
Speaker 2:it was the weird, like it was almost like Nepo baby stuff. Like you're like these are rich kids that have so many problems and you're like I don't relate to this.
Speaker 1:You don't I mean one of the reasons varsity blues was so big about where we live is because it's poor kids playing football football at a two-way school.
Speaker 2:That's why friday night lights was so big, because it's like it's literally down the road.
Speaker 1:In a long circumstance, I mean like varsity blues is good. Because about james vanderbeek knowing that playing for a state championship, two-way high school football, isn't gonna mean anything right, yeah and he's trying to tell all his friends that, like, none of this matters it's all gonna go away at the end, so like it. That's relatable where she she's all. That's like freddie prince jr in arguments with his wealthy father about what ivy league he wants to go to and you're like he's like it's true damn it dad, I'm a stanford man.
Speaker 1:They're staying in the mansion. You're like yeah meanwhile.
Speaker 2:Meanwhile, vanderbeek's go to john boyd. I don't want your laugh and I'm sick of it.
Speaker 1:I relate to this so it's just it's stupidly wild, but like that's my thing, though, it's like this, this movie's more 2000s than american pie was, in my opinion I think, well, that's the thing like it's made at the time I I wonder yeah, well, it doesn't lean.
Speaker 2:Because it didn't? Sometimes I think movies are afraid to lean into the trappings of their time.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's the thing about the 80s is that they really weren't. They did dress generally normal, but there was just so much influence of technology and pop culture. It's the. It's the first era, I think, of movies, and maybe it's because it is the teen movies where they're not afraid to acknowledge the pop culture, the music, the movies that are around them on screen, in the scripts and stuff and in the dialogue. It's the first time they're like yeah, we're acknowledging all this, we're not worried about it aging poorly and I think it survived that. But the thing about a lot of 90s movies, and especially everything that came after when they were trying to do some kind of throwback or something, was they leaned way too hard into the nostalgia porn they did yeah and I think that that's that's the problem with any teen movies that have come out in the past couple of decades is just that they haven't been able to find their identity.
Speaker 2:It's kind of they keep being like well, this is the, this is this the breakfast club of this generation.
Speaker 2:It's the, she's all that of this generation yeah you know, but that is the thing I got watching this movie. That was like, while you know, the Tamagotchis were there, the stuff was there, they went to the you know the quote-unquote video store slash blockbuster replacement. But it all felt authentic weirdly, and I think it's to give you a quick rundown. Kyle Mooney, the direct he's from Saturday Night Live. He's had no other direct. This is his directorial debut, no other major credits, and so I think he he must be our age or something.
Speaker 1:He's 40. He just turned 40.
Speaker 2:Because he has to know and we'll talk about something else that I'm like only a millennial from this era would get how to nail this. Yeah, so it's him talking about his own childhood.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I think it is nice that it's someone our age writing a love letter to their high school life or whatever, yeah, and I think that's fun, especially when they get it right, and I think that's the saving grace of the movie. I will say this I think the movie's got a strong front half in a week Because it goes off the rails.
Speaker 2:It goes off the rails a bit. You know, we shift from after the first act into the creatures taking over. But then there's the third act, pivot, where it just doesn't live up to the hype of itself it doesn't and the reason is because it only had 15 million dollars, cory and half of that probably went to fred durst. Yeah, probably. It made 4.4 million in domestic. Internationally I don't know 35 000 internationally.
Speaker 1:So it only made 4.48 million I like to think that fred durst works cheap. Oh, I'm sure he does.
Speaker 2:I think he's just in it for a good time, yeah yeah, but but when you're, when you're talking about a movie that has robotic creatures and they're using stop motion along with Practical effects, and stuff. The third act didn't live up to the build that we were looking for. Sorry about spoilers, but you got Fred Durst On a stage just singing Faith, with someone playing a guitar To distract the robots. It is very like that 90's.
Speaker 1:It's silly. It does the thing, having fun to distract the robots. It's it's just. It is very like that 90s, but it gets. I mean it's fun, it's silly, it's fun fun.
Speaker 2:It does. It does the thing having fun. But like if you're talking about like when you introduce robots in the end of the world in apocalypse, like people are used to terminator and stuff so it's hard to like scale that down into a reasonable atmosphere and mindset, even though it is like a teen movie and it's clearly like winking at you, going like, see, she's got the flash drive, this is gonna solve everything. This high school girl knows how to do it my.
Speaker 1:Here's my thing, though let me ask you this, and we should probably answer this a while back okay, um is this a good movie?
Speaker 2:no that's.
Speaker 1:I think that's what it is. It's a bad movie that you can watch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fun with it has good parts to it. That's the thing, like once you and once fred dirt's a pete, fred durst appears like you suddenly realize what movie you're in. If you didn't before, you're like I got it. Now I know what movie we're, we're experiencing, but it nails so many other weird things good, like the aesthetic, like the vibe of that period of time, but also like how people interacted with each other, like there's a scene between ash and the hip-hop head where, like they're just, they're trying to like talk.
Speaker 2:It's a period where it's like you can't be open and sentimental to each other. You have to like be me. Everyone's mean to each other, everything's f you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like in, like in, in love in a weird way yeah like it's just how you talk to people.
Speaker 2:You were just in total a-hole and like when they were taught, everybody was talking to us like this is exactly it, like everyone was just like fuck you, like fuck you and like no one. No one was willing to like. Kind of be nice about it you know, because it was because, again, we had gone to extremes. It's like the hip-hop head was mad at the metal heads.
Speaker 1:The metal heads didn't want to talk to the popular girl yeah, it was very thick-skinned yeah you know, they kind of nailed that whole thing like and it's and I we say that as if everyone just was living in extremes.
Speaker 2:There were just, it's the.
Speaker 1:We were just witnessing such extremes and those people were very much in defense mode we know what it is and like I mean this is just kind of a theory I have about like some of that is like we're the first generation to really like be raised, I think, fully. On television some say that's gen x and like I think that's true to some extent, but I think millennials are the ones that we caught on to it and, in a weird way, by the time we got to high school, we were all playing a part. We didn't know how to be authentic. We were just like we had so much media saturation, like I think millennials were the first ones to be oversaturated in the media.
Speaker 1:We all got like internet, like when we were in 8th grade, you know and all this stuff, and so like we just went to school every day, just like Dressing like someone we saw on that TV that night, or like being like, so like we were all just kind of Manufactured a little bit, which is why I think me and you both go to therapy. Probably now like all my therapies like I don't have an identity. I never made one. I let other people piece me together.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or you have too many identities, that's the thing you know like.
Speaker 1:I have no idea what's real and what's not yeah, no, no, I think you're right.
Speaker 2:Well, if you look, I mean gen x I don't know what the time span is for each of them, but like gen x probably was raised on television in the 70s but it was like it was still like very um, very low level tv like you're getting. You're talking about shears in the 80s, but you're talking about happy days in the 70s. You're talking about, like gilligan's island. You're talking about hannah, barbara, cartoons, like Everything was much more simple, I think. In a way, it wasn't as overloaded, you didn't have multiple TVs all the time.
Speaker 1:Here's what it is. I would say that Gen X grew up on TV that was made for their parents. They grew up on TV made for boomers and all they had was MTV, which is why Gen X is so musically pretentious Because they have their Cobains and stuff like that. But I also think it's because they got. The only channel they had for them as teenagers was MTV.
Speaker 1:And so they're just getting saturated with music left and right their whole childhood by the time we come in and we get TV. We got our Cartoon Networks, our Nickelodeons, our Disney channels.
Speaker 2:On top of VHS, on top of yeah, we can go rent movies. Movies are much more accessible. We can rent movies Gen X, it's the 1965 to 1980, which is funny because my parents are three years off the cutoff point of that. And it's weird to think about that because they seem more to me to be very much in the boomer category than they seem like a tweener kind of genre.
Speaker 1:Those are floating dates. So I mean some people say probably 70 to 80.
Speaker 2:And you're also probably thinking about demographics and location. If you're living in rural oklahoma, kentucky, texas, like you're, probably those type of things. Influences are going to come slower to those worlds so I'm thinking about this.
Speaker 1:I want to know. So in 1993, my mom is 33 yeah, she is younger than I am now and when she watched, dazed and confused, did she have the same experience like she's? Like this movie's great yeah it captured my high school experience real well, small like oklahoma, texas town yeah you know being, you know, just going trying to get, trying to find alcohol, smoking pot, whatever, doing the thing yeah and like we're sitting here now, I'm like older than that, going like oh, look like we're old nick they're making movies about our high school.
Speaker 2:Don't give it away, listen, don't tell anybody why'd you gaze our days and confuse that?
Speaker 1:it's not nearly as good of a movie.
Speaker 2:That's what really sucks well, it's also to another good point is like you remember when the 80s craze hit? And like we would. We would go to like 80s theme parties and dances and everyone's dressed to the extremes, kind kind of like this movie has. But like one of our friends, brandon Brister, pointed out, like you and Ethan Cox showed up in just the Well, it's Ethan Cox.
Speaker 1:Okay, Ethan Cox was just wearing like a cut off sleeve Iron Maiden shirt and jeans.
Speaker 2:Right and he's like that's actually the 80s that we grew up in, so like the rest of us overplayed it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that we grew up in so like the rest of us overplayed it. Yeah, we put on like the things we see on tv, like we dress like we were in hollywood. Yeah, play ethan cox put on iron maiden shirt with cut like the sleeves cut off in ripped jeans, and brandon brister with dice on the 80s was like that's how half the kids dress right, nobody's dressing in miami vice stuff like no one's wearing like neon jumpsuits to school, and that's kind of the thing is like, while this movie did have those are very extreme characters, like there were just the regular, like the main character he's.
Speaker 2:He looks like somebody from like that era time eli and and even laura kind of looks like somebody from our they do a good job with the baggy jeans and like the skater shoes and like and it hits because it's like he can't afford the real baggy jeans he's wearing like the knockoffs yes someone, someone's just again, they're mean and they point it out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, like I, definitely that was the experience I was laughing and kind of rolling with some of the stuff and then some of the stuff that eli was going through. I was like this, is it home?
Speaker 1:well, it's also like I remember being in high school and I remember like I'm being intimidated by almost any social setting, because it was like if your tribe didn't go you didn't go on an island by yourself.
Speaker 1:You know and so like I remember just being intimidating and it's like intimidating in a way because I mean I can look back at high school now and go. I think 99 that people went to high school with were totally cool, like they were totally not jerks no one really like placated in the stereotypes but because we were raised on crap like the breakfast club, just like the jocks are gonna be mean if I go to this.
Speaker 2:Right, they're gonna be jerks if I go to this party. Yeah, that's something I think back on too. It was like this built-in mental space of like I'm sure it would have been fine. Like yeah, there would be awkwardness because it's like I don't hang out with these people Other than just seeing them in class, like they don't know if I'm going to go rat them out. You want a beer, you want to hang out? And I was like sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean like it was. It is wild to think back to that, but I do think this movie kind of captures that social anxiety of it a little bit, especially with the main character, Like he's like doesn't want to go, blah, blah, blah. And then you have, like I don't love the actor that plays the friend. Oh was very over the top. It was overreact, overacting out the butt in my opinion it was just way over the top.
Speaker 1:He well, he, he comes off as a really horrible friend. I wasn't sad when he spoilers died well, julian dennison's his name.
Speaker 2:Uh, people know him from hunt for the wilder people, deadpool 2, probably most, but he was also in godzilla kong and the christmas chronicles 2 there you go movie but he, he's a.
Speaker 2:It is cringe, but that's kind of that type of guy, like that was. He was the try hard funny guy at the party and that's what he was like. Had this followed a normal teen movie path, like that would have been. His arc is like oh, I'm the funny guy, but then people are like do more crazy shit and like then you've been like this isn't fun anymore. But I'm only known as this guy.
Speaker 1:I feel like he was the least realistic thing in the whole movie. I've seen people like that. People are laughing with him.
Speaker 2:They're like, oh, this is fun. But later on they're laughing at him because they're like this guy's a doofus.
Speaker 1:Maybe that's what it is. To me it just seemed too weird. I feel like they were just trying to Jonah Hill from Superbad the character just chew all the scenery. The problem is Jonah Hill just really did that well.
Speaker 2:He's a producer on this apparently.
Speaker 1:And so Jonah Hill's like hey, so I was in this movie called Superbad, just do that.
Speaker 2:Just do what I did. Listen, people will love you.
Speaker 1:But like I don't know man, it's just. I do think it captures the vibe really well in some weird way.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Even though, like I just look back at high school and go, that was like a fever dream, weird it was and how again, and also my experience was in ninth grade. I wasn't cool like or I wasn't like I and by that I mean by that those standards I didn't go to abercrombie and fitch or hollister, I didn't wear puka shell necklaces I just really wore whatever my buckle.
Speaker 1:Going to the buckle to get high price jeans was a treat yeah, I was going to goodies and maybe old navy I just was literally putting together whatever was in my closet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hoping it worked and that stuff usually just appeared there.
Speaker 1:I mean, like for at least freshman year. It's like I'm just buying whatever my mom bought, I guess, and then, like by the time you get a license, you go buy your own clothes. I didn't know how to dress. I just I was like, whatever man I'm in a band it's weird because in freshman year I'm not the abercrombie holster guy. By my senior year that group of dudes were saying like, hey, let's go to hot topic because band t-shirts are cool now yeah and I'm like holy, am I popular like did it happen?
Speaker 2:what happened? Like there was a shift. There was a shift, yeah, from like the mid 2000s where, like, yeah, you know the my chemical romances of the world avenge sevenfolds and stuff brought in this idea of like the emo and rocks and alternative was the cool thing again, dude, and I completely missed that, my junior year.
Speaker 1:So I was in a marketing class. I got to do lots of cool stuff. We got to go to like new york and orlando and stuff and like. Because we went to like these international conferences and like my junior year, I go right and I just have an, I just go. Nothing crazy happens I the next year. And this is how much it changed from my junior to my senior year. I'm beating girls off with a stick because all of a sudden the grungy, cool punk rock looking kid somewhere I became in vogue.
Speaker 2:You were a prophet Corey.
Speaker 1:No one sent me the memo.
Speaker 2:No one knew what was coming.
Speaker 1:I vividly remember being in a mall in Nashville, tennessee, with my cool guy dudes in marketing and they're like is Typo Negative a cool band? Should I buy this shirt? I'm like I guess.
Speaker 2:Do you listen to them? And they're like no.
Speaker 1:I'm like then don't buy it.
Speaker 2:Just buy the one. You know, it's literally the flip of like oh, you have a Nirvana shirt named Three Songs.
Speaker 1:I mean that's where it started, kind of thing. But I mean I at the time I was super confused I was like what is going on? And they're like well, hey, you're wearing a good charlotte shirt.
Speaker 2:I was like I listened to them yeah, all the music that we were made fun of for listening in high school suddenly became like. Everyone was like how do I get that?
Speaker 1:I'm like in my senior yearbook wearing motorhead shirts, but like it's cool for some reason in there yeah, like if I had had money to buy shirts, I probably would have been buying those shirts.
Speaker 2:But there's also the high school pressure of like again, I was a Linkin Park kid. I was made fun of for that. I listened to Metallica and Disturbed and all those nu metal bands too System of a Down, and I was slowly working my way into punk and grunge.
Speaker 1:At that point yeah, you and I remember the Linkin Park kids in my school and they were uncool, they were like the dragon ball z kids, it was the venn diagram.
Speaker 2:If you watched harpoon network, yeah, anime you also listen to lincoln park.
Speaker 1:And the second you graduated, it got and got socially acceptable. It did it finally, finally kicked in, and so that's like me. In comic books. You didn't tell people you read comic books in high school and now the quarterback of the football team at high school probably has comic books, yeah, and has.
Speaker 2:He has anime, he has manga now and like they're probably having.
Speaker 1:You know we probably live in a beautiful. It's probably okay, probably atrocious to go to high school right now, for completely other reasons, but I bet there's not so much tribalism anymore I'm curious about that all the time like what?
Speaker 2:like I wrote, I was writing like a high school coming of age story and I was. I was trying to get feedback of like do you guys hate each other? Still like is this is it? Is it weird? Like that is it clicks, or do y'all just hang out Like what's the deal?
Speaker 1:I don't think so, man. I mean, I don't guess. I talked a lot of high schoolers but like my, my, my, like nephews in high school and it doesn't. He doesn't really talk in those like that vocabulary.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it just seems like everyone's just kind of cool over it. Are we? Are we in a post? Click like I think everyone like you're just maybe.
Speaker 1:First. Okay, first of all, I'll tell you this you look at any high schooler in our town right now. They all dress exactly the same. There's no aesthetic autonomy anymore. It's a mishmash of things for sure To me it's just shorts, tall socks, sliders and a big t-shirt Tall top thing and the Patrick Mahomes haircut.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's like every high schooler.
Speaker 2:I've seen in town You're just seeing kids at the gym, at like sports events and stuff.
Speaker 1:I see him at church man and like that kid might be in band. That's a big demographic crossover, though.
Speaker 2:Like are you looking at the theater kids? The like the gamer kids?
Speaker 1:it's kind of the same man, I think. It's just like I think, because there is no clicks anymore, I think. I think, because there's no clicks anymore, you don't have to like, distinguish yourself, which has got to be nice I think our first step is to ask our friends that are teachers, that are still teachers out there. I'll ask yeah, hey, if you're a teacher, tell us. But I bet they just say no. They all look the same.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because girls are kind of the same, it's just Nike shorts T-shirt sliders. Again, I'm just thinking. I'm like I'm sitting there going like surely this is just actually want to have a band this week and I'll go play and I just noticed it. Like last year, I was like every kid in this room is wearing the exact same outfit, but every and there's 200 of them.
Speaker 2:That goes back to your point, though we don't have a defining element really of the past couple decades. It's now shifted to generations, it hasn't? It's gone from decades to like now you're a millennial, you're a gen z, you're this, you know, and like they, uh, basically that's the identifier like we, they. They put all the stuff that they're wearing right now on us and it's like we wore that when we were in high school, middle school. We wear normal, regular clothes.
Speaker 1:Now we sometimes wear what you wear, like yeah, my thing is like and this is kind of now just this weird fun sociological thing but like, what I want to know is do they all wear the same thing? Because there's no pressure to look different kind of thing, like to fit in with some clique, and this is just the easiest and most comfortable thing to wear? Because they all look comfortable. They're wearing Crocs, shorts and shirts. They're dressed as comfortable as can be. Or is that just the popular look in there Because it's affordable? They all have it.
Speaker 2:We're also in a world of the internet, though, so Instagram has set the tone of like this is how we look.
Speaker 1:this is how and everything's melding and stuff, so it's possible. I do think I'm sure there are like pockets of different styles. So I I like I follow this kid on instagram and it's it's because he's I think he has down syndrome and it's just kind of this cool thing. This kid has got going where he has a fit of the day, okay, and it's like it's very like, uh, suburban, like you know kind of streetwear type of thing, like urban streetwear, like this type of stuff. But he'll do like a fit of the day in the hallway at his school and it's like the baggy jeans and, you know, the carhartt like shirt or whatever, and hat and he's like showing off his fit.
Speaker 1:Every kid in the background shorts, crocs t-shirt. Boy and girl. Shorts, croc t. And I'm like this. He seems like a sore thumb because he's just being autonomous.
Speaker 2:But this goes back to what I'm saying, though, is that we had the extremes, but we but, like he's, like Brandon said, in the 80s, and like we experienced, like there were just people like at least like myself too. They were like I had. I wanted to wear the trends, but a I didn't have the money, or your parents don't let you buy it, so you like get the thing that's close to it, that's still like acceptable around where you're at. So I don't, I don't think it's like. I think that what everyone's wearing is just like the athleisure, like well, this is popular and it's affordable. I can go buy a version of this at target or walmart, versus like the very like crazy expensive stuff. But also, like the internet, you can go team it. You can go to Shin and stuff and get stuff for 20 bucks.
Speaker 1:I will say that the sneaker culture is back it is. It's back hard because my nephew asked he sends me Christmas lists and stuff. I'm like so I don't, I'm not rich dude, so what do you want? That's not this. But I mean I just think it's interesting that, like, you can take a movie like Y2K that shows you how heightened clicks were and then look around now and go I don't know if that exists anymore. I mean, that's kind of cool. I guess in 20 years from now, if they make a movie about 2024,.
Speaker 1:I mean there will be some comedy in the next 10 years about the pandemic years and being in high school. It'll be a comedy. Are they all just wearing t-shirts, shorts and crocs?
Speaker 2:I think so, and my own fairytale. It just seems like there's just more acceptance and fluidity in social groups, which is cool.
Speaker 1:I like that. That's neat. Don't get me wrong I would never want to be a high schooler with social media. That's gotta suck.
Speaker 2:You're not going back and going like we need to take things back to the way things were back in the. No, not at all. Everybody needs to be divided. You need to pick a style and an idea and a music genre and you stick with that even though we're way off topic, we haven't talked about the movie in at least 20 minutes.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you this nick what? How would you feel if you're going to high school now and that's just the uniform, like to be kind of socially accepted? Or whether it's because cliques don't exist anymore or because the popular looks kind of affordable man, just get a t-shirt, shorts and sliders, yeah, um, would that bug you as a creative who kind of outwardly expresses themselves? Because my thing is like I've always been somewhat complimented on my sense of style and my sense of style is just effing. Made up like it is just a amalgamation of crap.
Speaker 2:I just think looks neat, I think it would bug me a little bit because even now, like working back in a regular corporate nine to five, like I struggle to just be like sure I'll just wear the slacks and a button up, like I'm constantly trying to find something different yeah, but you pull it off.
Speaker 1:Thanks, I see you every day I appreciate that nick works two cubicles away from me. Um, but like and no, I get that going getting into the corporate culture. In the last like because I didn't work. I worked in the lake for 20 years yeah and like just going to work, I gotta put on a shirt yeah, this is stupid.
Speaker 2:I mean working in freelance and video. You're like I wear wind pants or jeans what I can, what I can work and move stuff in, so like when you're like no, it's the old boomer mentality where it's like no, you need to wear, you need to look professional and I'm like and it. It irks my rebellious side really hard.
Speaker 1:You need a uniform number 103-90-34. 24-601.
Speaker 2:And so, yeah, yeah, I'm constantly trying to find little ways to sneak something outrageous in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I do think about that. I'm like dude. I don't know if I would handle being in high school right now, if that's just the way. That's what you're supposed to wear, Because I'm like I've always expressed myself by the way I look like that's what you're supposed to wear because I'm like I've always expressed myself by the way I look, maybe that's the difference.
Speaker 1:Maybe now, maybe there was just pressure to individualize and now there's not as much and that's what it may be, and maybe I'd be fine now, maybe, maybe it'd come out in a different way if I was 16. Yeah, like, just like, all right, more short sliders and a t-shirt we'll do some.
Speaker 2:We'll do some research on this. Ask around, you can dress, go enroll in high school.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll be fine, never been kissing. We got a Billy Madison.
Speaker 2:We're just like hey, I didn't finish high school, I got to go through all of it again. All right, Corey, let's get back on track here. Y2k, the movie. All right, Two words for you.
Speaker 1:Corey and I know that this problem with the movie is Fred Durst is the best part of the movie and that's not necessarily a compliment.
Speaker 2:It's not good or not necessarily a bad thing, though.
Speaker 1:No, it's just because Fred Durst is kind of like Michael Caine in Muppet Christmas Carol he plays it really seriously Straight and well he does, it well he does it super well.
Speaker 2:Did I have it in my bingo card that Fred Durst would be able to play the character that comes in from the future and talk about. I was there when the sky fell.
Speaker 1:He's like the Lawrence Fishburne or the Forrest Whitaker in a post-apocalyptic movie they just come in and tell you what happens.
Speaker 2:Corey when I say that the way that he delivers the line. At midnight we kicked into rearranged 10,000 maniacs getting twisted. In a blink the pit became a slaughterhouse. Only Fred Durst has the ability to deliver that line. Make it make sense and also, like, make you believe what he was saying, like he somehow pulled it off. Yeah, it's the best line of the past five years, corey it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2:And only someone from that era knows how fred durst talks and is able to write that line. So, kyle mooney, hats off to you, but I, I know, I see you, kyle mooney, I know, yeah, you're the kid in the in the backwards cat.
Speaker 2:We all, we all see it yeah, it's, so it is really good and it that's the best part of the movie, because it's the most fun part of the movie and in a weird way, fred durst will always like be the poster boy yes, for that era, for that era for 1999, because, again, they were the biggest band of the world for three years and then just fell off it's just because things change because 9-11 hit and suddenly we, the gen x slacker. Casual mentality was no longer like oh no, listen, there's terrorists now, terrorists now. We can't be silly and fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it was that way for a second, you know. And so like and that, but also I think, like 9-11 probably just jump-started, that I think it would have gone out anyways.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:Because I think that the problem with, like your Fred Durst, your Kid Rock, your Korn, anyone that came in at that era of 1999, they were going to be the first casualties of the internet, which is things now move faster. You don't get a decade anymore. You no longer get a decade to be the thing. Hair metal got a decade, you know, like drug rock got a decade, everybody got a decade. You guys, since the internet's there, you got three years.
Speaker 2:Three years and out.
Speaker 1:Yep, and then the new thing happens Yep and so. And also because the internet, it's not just because it moves fast, it's because it's going to get oversaturated much faster. Yes, it takes a decade to oversaturate hair metal.
Speaker 2:Like Sabrina Carpenter just dropped and announced she's coming out with another album a year later, she didn't even wait. And she's talking about, like you know, you don't have to wait three years anymore to like have a new era well, that means like they don't make money off these records anymore. No, so she's just like I'm just gonna keep it's taylor swift releasing an album after going on a world tour when we thought when she probably could have taken a break. She could have, couldn't, could she?
Speaker 1:a little oversaturated, but she, you gotta strike while the kettle's hot I mean it's true and so like I think they would have gone away anyways. But like back on fred durst I I. I don't think anyone has played their cards so well at just accepting what they are. Yeah, which is just like we were the biggest band in the world for a microcosmic era of time yeah. And they just lean into it.
Speaker 2:They do and they're just happy with it. And he had such an Avengers style introduction he did. I wish I had been in one of the theaters.
Speaker 1:Somebody commented on Letterboxd or like the way that people freaked out and cheered when he came on screen.
Speaker 2:I was like I did in my living room, did you? I was like no, I was like my girlfriend. She was looking on mdb while we were watching the movie and she brought.
Speaker 1:She reminded me that fred durst was in the movie so I was like I don't think I ever caught on that he was in it.
Speaker 2:I just was like I just thought the I just thought the red hat on the character ash was just like a nod but that's the weird thing about this movie is like when they have the slow moments, they weirdly nail the conversation between ash and cj, the conversations even between eli and laura, like everybody's little moments, like kind of nails it. So even the scene where ash is sitting there going like when fred durst is like I'm out, I'm not doing, this isn't my thing, and she's like you're fred fucking durst, like voice of a generation, yeah, and she's like and she puts the hat in this. He's like either wear it get out and like he puts it on, you're like this is like iron man putting his helmet back on. It really is spider-man putting the mask back on and spider-man 2 to go fight doc huck it's.
Speaker 1:It is true because if you were, if you're our age, you're aware of how big that man was and that band was.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And watching him put on the red Yankee cap that he hasn't worn since then, you know, yeah, it was such a tingly moment.
Speaker 2:It's literally like Clint Eastwood putting the cowboy hat back on. Yeah, because we're millennials and we're of that era. You suddenly hit and you're like I didn't realize how much this affected me.
Speaker 1:It's true Again. I appreciate that a guy like Fred Durst just accepts what they are. He's the kind of guy I hate. The Flock of Seagulls mentality of we're never going to play Iran again, oh stupid. I told you, I read an article where Rolling Stone said four non-blondes perform that one song the only four non-blondes. Hey, what's going? On yeah for the first time in 30 years and I'm like what the hell have they been playing? Who's come to your?
Speaker 1:show who come to their show and listen to the deep cuts other than like your friends like listen, we all get it.
Speaker 2:You, you're spend your whole life being an artist. You get this huge one hit song. You have this whole backlog or an album's worth of other songs you want people to listen to.
Speaker 1:But they keep saying play all-star but it's optimism versus pessimism that's what it is like either you're an artist and you're just pessimistic because you're like man. I wrote so many other songs that aren't all-star, that aren't, you know, iran? Or aren't what's going on and you just want people to listen to them because you worked hard on those, or you're fred durst and you're like optimistic and go dude. For every one of me, there's two million kids that wrote songs and no one ever heard them.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And like, whatever I will play, break stuff until I'm 80, you know, and like I appreciate that mentality way more. Yes, like even it's just like I get it. I'm kind of a joke to people, or this whole era was kind of a joke to people.
Speaker 2:But it's just like to me damn it.
Speaker 1:But you know, and it's weird too, because I kind of like thought, you know, like because we're recasting podcasts, and I kind of thought, ok, like if this movie came out in 99, or even if you just redid this movie and Fred Durst isn't available, I can't think of another guy.
Speaker 2:Well, eminem would probably be the next guy up, because this movie also I don't know if this is 100 true, but like the movie makes a joke of, like everybody's trying to freestyle whether it's durst or it's eminem. It's like they both kind of created this mentality where every white person thought they could rap it's that, and I do think like eminem's there, but like I still feel like eminem's.
Speaker 1:He's just a little bit later to me. I just feel like he's like a 2000 guy and frederick. I feel like the torch went from Fred Durst to Eminem.
Speaker 2:I think Eminem sustained was the thing. That's the problem.
Speaker 1:It's not really as funny, because Eminem still is like relevant.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because 2003 he drops the Eminem show and it's still a multi-million platinum selling thing and by that point Limp Bizkit's already on their way down, and then Eminem kind of has a fall off. At that point he has like a greatest hits album and then he goes into, uh, relapse and stuff yeah but that's late 2000s and stuff. But I think eminem was just he had. He also had eight mile. You forget about eight mile too. Frederick didn't get to start a movie he didn't get oscar nominations for anything.
Speaker 2:Sadly, he directed a movie starring travolta, yeah so and so.
Speaker 1:But like that's, my thing is like I just feel like fred ders is so important in this movie because Eminem doesn't make sense. He's still too relevant, too big. He just sustains to where it's not that the joke doesn't hit Eminem's been popular for too long Insane. Clown Posse is not big enough. That's too much of a joke.
Speaker 2:And the thing is Justin Timberlake's in trouble. He's not popular anymore.
Speaker 1:Manson still takes himself way too damn seriously.
Speaker 2:And way too damn seriously. And like corn is just and corn's not big enough, like Jonathan Davis isn't a household name, yeah corn's just still being corn. Girls wanted to sleep with Fred Durst. They didn't want to sleep with the guy with the dreads Like dude, apparently he had sex with Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears.
Speaker 1:That's the rumors, that was. That's the. Are you positive?
Speaker 2:popular, but he looks gross.
Speaker 2:I can like smell him when I see his picture he looks like he smells like bo and axe body spray at the same time exactly, but that was the it was, it was the time so I don't know, dude, it's uh, but yeah, that's whatever, man and so yeah, I. It's just a fun movie and it's only 90 minutes so I think people should watch it, give it a shot, just because it's just bonkers. It is very bonkers like don't go in, thinking it's gonna be anything yeah, we're not trying to sell you on a masterpiece.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, we're trying to sell you in a good time exactly, and there more movies need to just be okay with being a good time and I think that's why this movie like I do think it's why one of the reasons I did text you, but you need to watch this movie, because everything now it's just like three hours long yeah, it's epic or it's trying to say something and like, and don't get me wrong, I think that art should try to say something and I think there's a place for movies that need to try and say something.
Speaker 1:But also it's like man, my social media feed gives me anxiety. I only have one social media and I get anxiety all day, every day, because of whatever the president's doing, whatever's going on in the world or whatever and if I sit down and watch a movie, I don't necessarily always want to be hit with a message yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:You want to have a good time. You want to watch john wick kill some people. You want to watch jason statham beat up some people. You want to watch a comedy. We we've lost like a lot of comedy. A lot of those comedies have been pushed to prime and to nitflix and stuff and you don't see them in theaters you really don't like prime weirdly is getting like.
Speaker 1:There's like a john cena movie there's, there's an eddie murphy movie that just came is coming out.
Speaker 2:That got dropped on there, like it's really weird how, but again it's what we're talking about, the marvelization, the things everybody's complaining about, like if you're not a tentpole movie, you kind of get stuck in them. The mid-tier movie doesn't exist anymore it doesn't.
Speaker 1:So I think like this was a fun one to find yeah you know, and I do think it, I do think it's a solid teen movie, despite the fact it really weirdly pivots into something do you think this has the potential to be like a cult classic in the future? No, I think I, I. I'm kind of one of those people that thinks like the entire concept of like a cult classic's dead because nothing has time to fester anymore.
Speaker 2:We there's too much that gets buried on top of it so it's just by, it's just it's in, it's a pebble in the stream.
Speaker 1:Basically, yeah, I just don't know that, like anyone will ever, I don't think millennials will just all of a sudden one day go.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna check out y2k I think we might, because it's like, oh, that's specific to us yeah but I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't, and maybe gen z does, because, like well, I'm wearing jinkos, so hey, that's the good thing about your parents not buying you stuff, nick, because my parents wouldn't buy me jinkos, so there's no picture of me that's true in jinkos anywhere in the world, and I sort of sometimes thank my mom for that because I know I asked for them and she's like they're 50, absolutely not in the car. We're going to kmart and luckily there's no pictures of yajinkos that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 2:I'm sure that I'm wearing some stupid stuff somewhere sure yeah but yeah, no massive well cory, we recast on here and this one kind of writes itself like after we had had our little chat previously, I was like I feel like we have to do this, feel like we even, even just for funsies, we have to recast this in 1999 or the turn of the millennium. Oh, I agree, because it's it's a type of movie that I could see a studio head, like in 1997 or 98, going hey, this y2k thing's happening. Do you think we could have fun with it? If we make it unserious, like people won't panic and they'll go watch it and have a good time and they'll be like, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, that's my. That's the other thing, dude. We live in an era where everything gets over. Explained. This is like this OK, like Stephen King. I don't know if you've ever seen Maximum Overdrive from like the 80s.
Speaker 1:Stephen King, based off a short story where a comet passes by earth and all of the machines in the world come alive. Okay, and that's all the explanation we get, and that's enough. That's all you need. That's enough. I don't need someone to midichlorian it. I don't need, like I don't need science, pseudo fictional science, to explain why the force exists. Just just give me magic. And that's what y2k is. It's just, it happened. No one knows why the machines are all banding together and like making these weird creepy robot things. We just accept it, man, it's true. We just we just roll with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's half the. The cinema sins of the world, as we've said, has ruined movies to an extent. It's like now movies feel the need to over explain and Netflix has even built it in of like, hey, you need to just explain everything in every scene because people aren't paying attention.
Speaker 1:They're on their phones.
Speaker 2:I'm like it's like. I get it, I understand. I understand the logic, but don't don't it's like movie theaters leaving the lights on until the movie starts. 'm like no, you get here at the time, sit in your little chair. You open up your snacks during the trailers, not while the small quiet opening scenes don't fumble with it. For three minutes on me because three seconds of black and nick's like gosh.
Speaker 2:No, it's usually when there's like a conversation. They're like oh yeah, I have snacks, let me, let me pull up my twizzlers and you're like it's gonna take you five minutes because you've never, some reason, you've never opened Twizzlers in your life until today.
Speaker 1:You couldn't get popcorn. Like the rest of us, my hands aren't working. I can't see in the dark.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe you got here early. They booze people.
Speaker 1:They come in on the second trailer.
Speaker 2:I'm ready to boo people, always ready to boo people. Well, corey, we're casting in 1999. We both we're casting in 1999. We both decided to cast this movie in 1999 because that makes sense, because we haven't done that in a while we've been kind of loosey-goosey here, yeah, and it's just like it's appropriate.
Speaker 2:I want to know who plays in this movie if it was released and written in 1999 absolutely absolutely that's what I wanted, and so I mean we didn't do a big cast like seven, no, we hit the main, the main players, really the survivors that get out of the party, and then a couple of, like notable characters yeah, no but I, I don't think, I don't think we wanted to deep dive it too much.
Speaker 1:Anyway, this is we're having. Just hey, what does this movie look like if it came out in the appropriate time? Right, which is wild, though, because I'll say this, I think I don't know if it's just because of, uh, bad nutrition or whatever yeah but I feel like teenagers look more like teenagers in movies now, even if we are doing 20-somethings.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's true.
Speaker 1:In the 90s and the 80s we were doing a lot of 24-year-olds. There was a lot of 30-year-olds. I just started watching 90210 on Paramount+ because it's on there and I'm like I want to know what this show's about. Luke Perry never looked like he was in high school. He looked every bit of 31 the whole time in that show. I'm like that guy's. I'm waiting for the twist where someone outs him as an adult.
Speaker 2:It's like I told you when my brother-in-law came to visit from England and he went to a high school game and he's watching and he sees the cheerleaders when does the high school team play. Because he assumed they were all middle schoolers, because movies had twisted his mind of what high schoolers look like in America.
Speaker 1:Oh no, these are actual teenagers. No, they're real.
Speaker 2:That's them.
Speaker 1:I mean I'm watching 90210 in my head. I'm just retconning in my head that Luke Perry's part of 21 Jump Street and he's actually a cop. We just never see the part where he solves crimes.
Speaker 2:That's all off screen. That's a different show. Yeah, that's a spinoff I. That's a different show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I'm just like it's a spin off. I was like this guy is not in high school. I can sort of accept the other 20 year olds, but Luke Perry paid someone to cast that show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I will, I accept this.
Speaker 1:I accept this theory, so I'm just like he's just solving crimes.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:We just don't get to see that part. We just see the part where he's okay, it's it's la, it's a big city yeah okay, cory, so I have eight people.
Speaker 2:Is that is that who you have? Okay, I just want to go from the bottom up yeah, let's do it through this. So we've got farkas, who's the? He's the antagonist for a bit. He's misunderstood. He's. He's just. He's the metal head that has the long hair. He has a deep, deep-rooted insecurity that makes him act out yeah and he's. He's played by eduardo. Uh, franco, yeah, who's been in a couple of movies.
Speaker 1:Up until now he was usually the friend, he was usually the lovable friend, but now he's been demoted to bully. He has who dies in 30 minutes of the movie.
Speaker 2:Spoilers he tries to grind Corey, that's the best death in this whole movie.
Speaker 1:The fact that he tried to grind, because that was part of being a millennial.
Speaker 2:It was Did you ever have soaps?
Speaker 1:I did not.
Speaker 2:Did you ever have the skate shoes? I didn't have skate shoes.
Speaker 1:I know what you're talking about the skate shoes with the piece of plastic in the middle meant for grinding.
Speaker 2:Yeah for grinding, but the skate shoes like the wheelies on the back. They were banned before anyone could get their hands on them Very quickly.
Speaker 1:Some teachers got wind of those real quick and I never saw them in school Before anyone could buy a pair. They were like these are not. They banned soaps after a year in middle school and that's just because of a couple of broken arms, just like some kids, like I'm gonna grind the bleachers Nail the gym floor.
Speaker 2:You can't get all the way across it.
Speaker 1:It was bad. They were soaps were a bad idea, they probably they were cool, but they were bad. I had some and I don't think I ever tried to grind on anything because I was just like I'm gonna get hurt. It's alright.
Speaker 2:Well, cory, who did you cast for Farkas?
Speaker 1:I, okay, this is probably one of the deepest dives I've ever done, because I don't normally say the people no one knows. Okay, but Charlie Talbert, who the only movie I know of ever came out like the 90s yeah. Angus.
Speaker 2:Charlie Talbert. He just looks like a bully. Okay, they spell it right Talbert, talbert, talbert.
Speaker 1:Talbert Movie Angus.
Speaker 2:Angus, this is so deep that Google doesn't even have it for me there.
Speaker 1:This guy okay yeah, I've never seen that man in my life. Hilarious. This guy Okay yeah, I've never seen that man in my life. This is the only movie I know he's in. The movie poster is hilarious.
Speaker 2:Angus is hilarious. It's a great Kathy Bates and George C Scott from the producer of Cool Runnings. Yes, it's a great movie. Okay, it's a deep cast too. A deep cast, okay, very interesting.
Speaker 1:There's like way more people in that movie. It's like when you see indie movies now, but they have all these weird a-listers that are like.
Speaker 2:I had time in between a project right, I need some money. I was killing time. I put a pull in. That's before I blew up. I was just getting the dvd straight to dvds out of the way.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, I could I could see that I can see the bully and he doesn't really want that movie, and so I was just like he's my fargus, okay okay, I chose jim vanderbeek okay I think he has a funny bone in his body for 100, because I think we saw it later in life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you grow his hair out like I know he's right in the varsity blues era, but that makes it fun to like flip the script james.
Speaker 1:James vanderbeek is the bad kid, he's the bully kid in angus.
Speaker 2:Oh is he. Yeah, he does he, he had, he had an early career heel run.
Speaker 1:He's like hulk hogan like no one remembers him being heel, but he he started as a heel.
Speaker 2:James Van Der Beek.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's the quarterback bully type, like the stereotypical, so he just got stuck in a little pocket.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, he's got the Leonardo.
Speaker 1:He looks like a douche in there. He does yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I would give him the big wig, just like Arfarkis from 2024.
Speaker 1:But he'd be blonde. He'd look like Jay from Jay and Silent Bob Put a beanie on.
Speaker 2:The layup of this would have been to just put Jay there, but I was like that's stupid, Don't do that. Yeah, Alright. So from there we have Soccer Chris, who Eli keeps calling Soccer Chris, and I don't know if it's like some weird mental game he's doing to like try to screw with him because he wants to date, because Chris is dating Laura, and he's finally like stop calling me that.
Speaker 1:But it's great when he finally is like I'm not, it's just Chris, but I actually think the whole Soccer Chris thing again really signifies that era in time where you labeled everyone everything. Dude, we lived in a world of labels, that's true. We were just absolute labels, and so, of course, it's Soccer, chris.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he's a jock. He labels and so of course it's sucker chris. Yeah, but he's, he's a jock, yeah, he's. You know, he's just the douche. He's like a jerk and we've all. We all know that guy played by kid laroi who apparently is not well liked on the internet.
Speaker 1:Gory, really he doesn't like him I, he put out that one song and I never heard from people cheered for his death in the movie why do people hate him? I don't know, wait, did they cheer for him because they don't like kid laroi, or they didn't like the?
Speaker 2:kid leroy mainly, but I'm sure it helped that he was playing a douche okay, was unaware.
Speaker 1:Is he problematic? Did he do something wrong?
Speaker 2:or is it just?
Speaker 1:people are like we sick of this kid.
Speaker 2:Maybe they're just sick of him. Kid leroy. What are you? What have you been up to, leroy?
Speaker 1:yeah, let's do some actual digging here. Do we need to be part of this cancellation, do we?
Speaker 2:need to confirm the cancellation here. Uh. Kid laroy public addressed his mental health struggles, uh damn, so we're hating him for having problems grief over the loss of his mentor juice world.
Speaker 1:Uh, I don't see anything so the kid's just struggling and the internet says f you for having why did kid laroy cancel?
Speaker 2:is a search, unforeseen circumstances outside his control? The reason for cancel is that he was deeply sorry for any disappointment he caused.
Speaker 1:Okay, wait, this isn't answering sounds like he's just going through it.
Speaker 2:He issued an apology after canceling $800 meet and greets with fans on a national tour, so maybe a little problematic.
Speaker 1:Not in a terrible way. It sounds like he's having mental health issues. I mean, we still love Adele and she canceled a whole residency twice.
Speaker 2:That's fair.
Speaker 1:That's people flying from around the world to see her in Vegas, and she did it to him twice. That's just because she was sad about her dumb boyfriend, Rich Paul, who keeps ruining basketball.
Speaker 2:You're right. Moving on, I cast Justin Timberlake in 1999. I just think he's at the height of nc's popularity. You know he's got the same. He has trauma billy, he has acting chops and I think he would have fun playing a douche and some people probably would say like because he is a douche. But I don't know that, but it kind of might be he may be.
Speaker 1:I mean, I would imagine he's got some douche traits, but he also seems like he's probably likable also at the same time. Yeah, he's smart enough to play into any dislikability yeah, and you know, he proves himself to be a decent actor later in life yeah, yeah, for sure and so um I, I gave you james franco that's who is problematic, but not in 1999 as far as we knew, freaks and geeks, but he was more the stoner in freaks and geeks, wasn't yeah?
Speaker 1:but this is the year he comes out with uh, what's that first movie he was in right before. Whatever it takes, never been kissed oh, he's never been yeah he's like the.
Speaker 2:He's like a douchey popular kid interesting yeah, never been kissed in 99 and just serve him for check, gory, don't forget about that.
Speaker 1:No, that little nugget of uh but he's in a movie with shane west the next year called whatever it takes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's his first movie and then it's yeah, it's whatever it takes if tomorrow comes, and then spider-man in 2020 or 2002.
Speaker 1:So he, he got a big role real quick like that interesting so but yeah, I think that's yeah, because he he plays a dirtbag really well, douchey kid yeah it's just gonna lean right into it because, it's possible.
Speaker 2:He's a real life, all right. Uh, last of the non, like main five survivors or whatever. Is garrett, who's played by the actor, the writer, director, kyle mooney? Uh, he's just the stoner, the older stoner guy in town. Basically, he works at the video store, he gets, he gives some knowledge to our main characters I kept imdb like is this sam rockwell?
Speaker 1:it just kept giving me sam vibes.
Speaker 2:It's all it did the whole time but no, he's part of the snl cast. He's been a part of them for a while. He was known for many different sketches on that show, um cory. I'm just going to give you the stoner of stoners, pauly Shore.
Speaker 1:That's great. You know, I support that Absolutely In the 90s. It's his time. I'll be sad when he's dead. Well, 99, though he is out the door.
Speaker 2:This is when he's doing. Pauly Shore is dead and he's trying to salvage. We're just extending it. We'll give him here. You know he had biodome in 96 son-in-law 93 goofy movie somewhere in there have we ever confirmed that this whole movie is making with denzel washington's real?
Speaker 1:what movie? I sent you something like there was an announcement that polyshore is going to be in a movie with denzel? I doubt, but like he says a lot of stupid stuff on instagram yeah, his instagram is weirdly kind of sad polyshore's film out of time was a 2003 thriller.
Speaker 2:He was in that movie, I guess. So I mean his career takes a downturn after biodome, according to screen rant. So so, yeah, I don't think. I don't think the movie existed or any whoa inking a deal with the guy. That's an instagram post like.
Speaker 1:He makes instagram posts and you don't know if he's like like, because paulie shore's kind of like a cory feldman, where if cory feldman seems to sort of be leaning into the cringe yeah paulie shore's like I think, unintentionally cringe because he tries to get projects off the ground through instagram, yeah I wouldn't. It's kind of sad.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't lean into it too hard, cory, I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it's gonna happen he made that short about richard simmons and then richard simmons died and like his estate was gonna sue and he got really upset okay, and he he was begging them online to let him make the movie. Oh no.
Speaker 2:Well, it's going to be fun to watch him try to fight a robot made of appliances and stuff Agreed, so it'll be good. It'll be good. Who do you have for Garrett?
Speaker 1:I put Jason Lee Okay, yeah, that's good. Of Mallrats, yeah, of Mallrats fame.
Speaker 2:Earl for for the lead singer still water from almost famous yep, yep, yep all good shout outs. No, that's, that's good, he'll, he'll nail that for sure oh, for sure he'll have a good time, okay, so uh, these are also in real life a pro skater before he was an actor there was a lot of guys like did you know that?
Speaker 1:jason lee was like a really renowned pro skater.
Speaker 2:No like huge really. Yeah huh, before he got into acting interesting maybe he just he saw like everybody's breaking bones as he's like you know, acting's easier that or it might have.
Speaker 1:He might have been a casualty of like when one of the skateboarding fallouts, but I yeah, because I don't know, I don't remember if he was like a vert guy. And then you know, vert went away for a long time and streets I think he was a street skater though I typed in why did jason lee leave?
Speaker 2:and it immediately put scientology, scientology's like listen we do not condone skateboarding. Citing age pressure to maintain his top-level skill loss of passion for the sport.
Speaker 1:Tony Hawk ruined it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what happened, tony.
Speaker 1:Rock came in and just ruined it. The X Games ruined it.
Speaker 2:You're telling me I could have had Jason Lee Pro Skater 2 and 3 instead of Tony Hawk.
Speaker 1:Could have, but Tony Hawk, just you know, he rewrote history and took it all.
Speaker 2:Oh well, history and took it all. Oh well, it's a shame, it's real shame there. All right, uh, the first of our survivors at the end is ash, played by lashlyn watson. Uh, she's been known for some smaller stuff, but, uh, she was on the sabrina the teenage witch remake that metflix did. Okay, I enjoyed her in that. So, like, when I saw her I was like, oh, that's, it's that girl, I like her.
Speaker 2:It's that kind of situation she's a fun character because she's one of the female metalheads yeah, which my school had some yeah, and she, but and the one that's like secretly kind of kind of a babe yeah like, oh, like, and you see her like now.
Speaker 2:Now you're like, oh, you'll be really cool like in in college and stuff and everybody's gonna look back and be like she was pretty cool actually. But like she deals with the same thing of like getting treated like like the rumor that because she like sleeps with one of them and they're like, oh yeah, she's a slut and like she has to like deal with that a lot and that sucks and that's a thing that happened and happens still probably.
Speaker 1:For sure, for sure.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I picked. Who did you pick? I went first last time.
Speaker 1:I picked Natasha Lyonne.
Speaker 2:Okay, from she's like she's in Detroit Rock City. She's an outlier of American Pie Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she is a peripheral character in american like they always pull, they're always like.
Speaker 2:And natasha leone's here and I'm like she was in that movie. What did she do? She's the friend, okay, I think she's a lesbian in the.
Speaker 1:Okay, that makes sense. Okay, sure, sure. This is a really popular show now called like poker face. Yeah, she was in that russian doll show too yeah, um no, I could see that for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she, the raspy voice plays into it well, and stuff. She's gonna wear the red hat on the red hair, which will be funny, which will be awesome. Yeah, I picked chloe 70. Uh, she's kind of no more of like an indie actor kind of person, but she kind of fits the look of uh leishman a lot. So I kind of felt like there were other like girl types like that, but they were all kind of involved already in that, a role similar to that, like the rose mcgowans, the christina ritchie's of the world yeah so I was like let's let's, let's let her have something about miro savini for a second.
Speaker 1:Yeah, from american beauty, she seemed like she would have been good because she usually plays pretty girl right but in lose she was in a movie called loser with jason biggs, that's right, and she was kind of the indie girl, yeah she's got two tickets to iron maiden man she does.
Speaker 2:That's right, very nice, very nice. Uh, cj, the uh hip-hop head, as he calls himself, he's like so everyone else is trying these terrible freestyles and he's the only one that actually puts any thought into it. But it's that over the top, like I'm trying to be real deep man, the system's breaking us down. Word and it was like and fred durst is like, that's deep killer flow man, I like that, and but he dies saving fred durst too by c.
Speaker 1:And that's how we all want to go down. So I would say that when this character came on screen early in the party, I hated him immediately because that kid existed more in my youth than anyone, because I got into the whole music scene early in high school, like me and my friends. And there was another band in high school called the Fight Song and the thing is we were like my band was like we like Blink-182 and Green Day and we want to write like poppy punk.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that we were in a music scene that's like nah, mainstream's bad, mainstream is horrible, and so you were constantly around conversations like oh, you just listen to mainstream music.
Speaker 2:You just listen to mainstream. I was just like, oh F this kid. I hate this kid so much I can't stand you.
Speaker 1:My friends that were in this band the Fight Song. They would stop listening to an artist if I said I liked them.
Speaker 2:They were like oh, that means it's bad.
Speaker 1:If it's caught on Nekori, it's got too popular.
Speaker 2:And I'm like so all your bands are bullying, that's just stupid, it's super, it's super dumb um. I picked joseph gordon levitt for this okay third rock from the sun era him, uh, he's also in 10 things I hate about you in 99 but I think pretentious he's, he can be, he can play into the pretentiousness he's in 500 days of summer.
Speaker 1:He's in the pretentious indie comedy. I think he's aware of it.
Speaker 2:I think, like he knows, he's like oh, I'll have fun with this don't, yeah, it's like for sure, I like pretentious stuff, but I'll lean in, but I'll also be in a batman movie. Yeah, exactly who did you pick?
Speaker 1:um man, I had a lot down for this one, but this is where I threw justin timberlake, because I think it would have been fun in 99 to make him the pretentious music. He's in the biggest boy band in the world where's the bucket?
Speaker 1:hated by anyone. That's not a 13 year old girl in 1999. And if he's wearing the bucket hat like talking about, that's not a 13 year old girl in 1999. And if he's wearing the bucket hat like talking about like pretentious music, that would have just been and he's got like his high pitch kind of yo yo what up yo, and so it's. I thought about putting usher there I don't think it would have been as good, but no, I think just simply it's too good okay, okay, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2:I like that, just. I like when we lean into the silliness or playing against type.
Speaker 1:I think it would have been good for Justin Timberlake's career.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, to make fun of himself a little bit. Okay, I've got Danny up next, who only makes it through a third of the movie I was honestly a little surprised.
Speaker 1:That was a little shocking. He is like the Scottie Pippen of the movie and then he dies like 30 minutes in yeah, and it's weird because that's the other problem with the movie is the tone shift.
Speaker 2:It goes from like weird and wacky horror elements to now like this very serious, like my friend's dying. I'm trying to pass on some knowledge and you're like oh, okay, that's the tone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does set a weird tone.
Speaker 2:Oh, nobody's safe yeah, no one's safe. Everybody could die, um. But yeah, this is julian dennison. He's the comic relief character we've talked. He does the thong song scene. You know he it's a fun scene, but in your and it's a little cringe because you're like, oh, don't, don't go too far, don't get too crazy. But he does kind of have a moment and that's the things like he's, he's accepting, like his role and getting kind of popular and eli's just struggling to like exist too at the same time and that's the thing is like he's more willing to be like this is who I am and eli's just more reserved of like I.
Speaker 1:I can't be who I am right now I think I hated the character because the idea of someone that likes me just telling me like constantly get over it or just be what I that would give me so much anxiety right, like you have no idea what's going on in my brain and you're pretending like you do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, for sure. So who do you have for danny?
Speaker 1:this is where I put joseph gordon levitt.
Speaker 2:Oh okay I think you're having fun. All right, I think you're having fun like it's the nerdy kid that like is self-accepting okay, so he's.
Speaker 1:He's more like the other small scrawny kid that's like, yeah, like I, yeah I, I took the fat archetype out of it you know the fat friend thing out um, and just said like, like, I'm thinking about his character from 10 things I hate about you're thinking about.
Speaker 2:You're thinking about can't hardly wait. Uh uh, jack from hook.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, like kind of that yeah but, like you know, just take the 10 things I hate about you character. He's like not cool, yeah, but like in this one, make him more self-accepting, yeah, you know that makes sense.
Speaker 2:That makes sense. Um, when they put in the mixtape, I was sitting there going like I immediately was like oh, please be good, please be a good mixtape, because like there was that pressure of like you gotta make the mixtape, you gotta make it good. I have to apologize to like the entire high school football team and varsity sports, probably because like I hijacked the cd player and like put in my mixtape was it just marilyn manson's the beautiful?
Speaker 2:it wasn't all the time it wasn't okay, I wasn't that crazy but it was a lot of new metal, a lot of hard rock, like not a lot of you know like, because the people around where I was at like they wanted to listen to some like old macy dc's, probably some country or something, you know. I don't think we had a lot of rap influence yet, so even that was kind of frowned upon. But you know, you have like your M&M's till I collapse or something on there that's edited heavily, but I have to apologize to them for like hijacking the thing, but I hope they enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:I just remember hearing in high school that the football team just listened to Marilyn Manson's Beautiful People on repeat before a game and I'll beautiful people on repeat before a game. That's, and I'll say this man they only won two games when I was in high school, so that might have been the problem listen.
Speaker 2:We were listening to like in the air tonight before the game, or like we did listen to the friday night soundtrack like it had like this one time we tried listening to it before the game. It's just way too like spacey and stuff and like it puts you in a completely different mind space. But we, we did, we had our, we had our click our staples and stuff. But no, no one was, we were not on rotation of like a repeated song. That's kind of psychotic behavior even for me.
Speaker 1:I remember, like I was in drumline and we were nationally ranked as a high school drumline and we were excused from the pre-halftime speech that the band director would give the horn players yeah and we would go like find a space and listen to battery by metallica, but but the S&M version with the symphony that was every Friday night before us. And it kind of just got your adrenaline down. That's what it did. It just got it out.
Speaker 1:It wasn't like you were hitting stuff, you were just listening, going mm-hmm there was a lot of hitting.
Speaker 2:You're getting ready, you're mentally visualizing and stuff no for sure for sure. So my Danny. I stuff no for sure for sure. So my danny. I picked sean weiss. Uh, people know him as goldberg from the mighty ducks and I it, he's also in heavyweights yeah, as well.
Speaker 1:I just think like you could have done someone like keenan thompson maybe I would have gone with the other fat kid from heavyweights, the main one, oh, the main kid yeah yeah, I feel bad that I don't know his name, his main name jason come on, be jason.
Speaker 2:Big money on Jason here Heavy weights.
Speaker 1:He looks like a Jason, he feels like a Jason.
Speaker 2:Feels like he could be a Jason. His name was Judd Hapitdaw, was in it? Sean Weiss, Paul Feig, Tom, he's not even on the main listing here, Is it? Aaron Swartz damn it up.
Speaker 1:well he's got like a strong jawline he glowed up hard.
Speaker 2:You know who still looks good is is camp counselor julie leah leo. Like she's still killing it.
Speaker 1:She's still a babe I forget that there's a weird arc like love story the big the tom mcgowan falls in love with leah camp counselor, just ben stiller steals the whole movie.
Speaker 2:So that's all I remember but no, I just think he would. He would do really well and like. The thong song scene for me is like I'm like somebody's gotta perform that really well. Yeah, all right, top two here.
Speaker 2:Laura, played by the infamous rachel zegler just really infamous for just taking a part in a disney some people really hate her and then, like other people, it seems more like the gen z liberals of the world seem to love her, because she was like this whole thing's a joke, uh, and she's, you know, part of the free palestine movement and she's sitting there saying that in front of gal gadot, who was an israeli soldier at one point, so I think they're like she gets brownie points with them for like doing kind of like, kind of just going like yeah, I'm gonna sabotage this whole terrible movie. So who's?
Speaker 1:I don't know, that's you know, and like I think talking about that that's a weird thing, because I think that's a fascinating philosophical conversation which is like if you're a celebrity. Do you use the microphone you're given or do you not use the microphone? You're given Cause. I respect both. I do. I respect the fact that I have no idea what Brad Pitt believes in, cause I don't want to know what.
Speaker 2:Brad Pitt believes in. I don't care For sure.
Speaker 1:And it because it comes off that if Brad Pitt all of a sudden started telling me how, like, how, I like, I think that's like a it feels gross when someone with influence starts saying try to promote something, but at the same time the flip is also true which is if I believe in something yeah. I have the ear of millions of people. Why wouldn't I say what I believe?
Speaker 2:in. I think it's a level of what's a paradox like how genuine are you being?
Speaker 2:because, like she, you know she got in trouble for whatever she was saying about the movie. And then the movie, like way before the movie came out even, and like I think they delayed the movie because of that, and at that point I think she was like you know what? I'm already, this thing's already going down because, like, like they were telling her like to take her stuff off, disney was trying to tell her, take your stuff off social media, and she's like no, I'm good which I think that's fair.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think, dude, she has the right to think she's gonna think yeah, I think it's necessarily smart for a career maybe not probably.
Speaker 2:That's the, that's the argument. Yeah, you know, but like but I also think gen z and gen alpha aren't as obsessed with fame as as we were.
Speaker 1:I don't think they are either, like I really don't yeah um, and so I, you know and I and also we're she gets cast as snow white, I think during trump's first term and racism is now accessible, acceptable and everybody's, like Snow White, is supposed to be white.
Speaker 2:Sure, sure, she's Brown.
Speaker 1:And it's like you're a grown man who cares.
Speaker 2:The real conversation about the little people not getting roles in those movies.
Speaker 1:They were also mad about little mermaid being black, it's just like oh my gosh, they're children's movies.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Maybe don't die on this hill. Well, let's talk about gun control. No, absolutely not, not my little mermaid.
Speaker 2:So all right, but yeah, that's why she's infamous. Yeah, all because of snow white. Yeah, well, on a less infamous level, I picked rachel lee cook, who kind of was the girl of that period of time. In 1999 she was in, she's all that, so it's kind of just pulling prove that beautiful girls can be hiding behind glasses right, yeah, and this is this character is kind of an inversion on that or kind of playing off. She's apparently the homecoming queen and stuff.
Speaker 1:Not Janie Briggs. She's got glasses and a ponytail. What is that?
Speaker 2:Take it off and then suddenly you're like whoa.
Speaker 1:I don't like spoof movies very much, but I think not another teen movie. Not another teen movie, if you don't mind really crass humor, nudity and bad language they, I don't they.
Speaker 2:They poke fun at the 90s teen movie they do so it's perfect do you think that maybe like those type movies killed the the run of like teen movies?
Speaker 1:I mean probably yeah like, I mean, it's just, it's something when something becomes so easy to parody and I think and don't get me wrong I think the the fun part about that era is, you know, something has to live long enough to be parodied. Yeah, and the fact that things were changing so fast, things were getting so oversaturated so fast because of the internet. You had a new parody movie every year and then the parody movies became oversaturated in of themselves we had disaster movie.
Speaker 2:We had superhero, meet the spartans. Scary movies.
Speaker 1:Scary movie five and so like it's just, it's that thing and so, but like I think not another team movie was the first. I mean scary movies first.
Speaker 2:Well, technically naked gun and all those things were first in the 80s had hot shots and yeah, those movies.
Speaker 1:But like of the new run scary movie happened? I think not. Another team movie is the best of the modern spoof movies, I think in the fact that captain america is in it and I love that scene. We bet you can't make any girl prom queen. It's like a hippie albino and a girl with a hump, a hunchback, and they're like, no, she's still hot. And then it's just the girl, the attractive girl wearing glass and glasses and a what is that? She's got paint on her jeans. And it's delivered so well. I love it.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a great movie. Who's your Laura?
Speaker 1:then I had Christina Ricci, which is maybe on the nose, but I like it, that works.
Speaker 2:She's at the very end of the teen era.
Speaker 1:She rarely did, though, like the normal it Girl like teen movies and stuff. She got pegged as, like the, the goth queen of that era never really went into any of that, and I think this would have been fun for her, which, by this point, she's probably at the very end of her ability to play a teenager for sure. Sleepy hollow year, yeah, okay, okay, very cool, very.
Speaker 2:She's 22, I think, okay nice, all right, eli jayden martell, who is not? Who is not a martell? Or am I thinking of the martells? Yeah, in game of thrones, but he was in, uh it yeah, he's the main kid from it and then he was also in knives out knives out.
Speaker 2:He did pretty good knives out, yeah um, but he's young, introspective we talked about him a little bit. He's very relatable like, especially for me being like the shy person I was at that period of time. You're like, yeah, I can relate to this guy a lot and and that's kind of the thing that, like this movie, I laughed a lot but I also like felt, I was like I feel I feel this this hurts a lot. So like, yeah, weirdly nailed like the real is rhythm of being that kid in that period of time, but also was like we're, we're being ridiculous because robots are trying to kill us yeah so I'll let you go first on your final pick for eli I originally had some recency bias and I put colin hanks because just watched Orange.
Speaker 1:County which is also a fun millennial movie but again hardly relatable because he goes to a high school that looks like it's a museum and he lives in a mansion and the whole movie's about trying to go to Stanford.
Speaker 2:And so everyone's trying. Not if it's real man. They were really pushing the Ivy Leagues back in the late 90s. Man. They were.
Speaker 1:There was a whole movie called Stealing Harvard, which is the same plot. It's just trying to get someone into Harvard by nefarious means Everyone's in the Ivy Leagues. But actually I pivoted and I put Sam Huntington here. Sam Huntington, he is in the Star Wars movie where they try to see episode one early. He's in Detroit, rock City.
Speaker 2:He's in that.
Speaker 1:Tim Allen movie Jungle to Jungle he's the kid.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, he still looks like him, even with a beard. Yeah, okay, fanboys.
Speaker 1:He was in Fanboys. Fanboys, that's it.
Speaker 2:Jungle to Jungle. Yeah, those are the main things.
Speaker 1:Detroit Rock City yeah.
Speaker 2:So like I thought he would play it really fun, that's a good, really well Like he, he, he, he's kind of like a really handsome Michael Cera.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's just kind of like a always a nervousy tick kind of thing.
Speaker 2:It kind of reminds me of the guy who was on SNL right now, who's, who just looks very young, very clean, shaven and like he he's always, but he does really well. He's always kind. It's like current cast guys come on. Well, while I'm looking at this, I'm gonna tell you who I picked.
Speaker 1:I picked ben foster.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right and like, because I think like he, especially in that age, like he looks like just the, he looks very much like the main character in the original version. I can't find him. He's, he's lost to time, forever and always in our hearts. Uh, it might be. No, it's not. It's not Aristotle something. Anyway, I'll look at it If I think of it. Let's, let's round this baby out. But I think Ben Foster, he's always been a character actor and I think it's just it's he in this point show that like came and went yeah flash forward.
Speaker 1:Oh, and he played the nerdy kid interesting, he did really well.
Speaker 2:Huh, oh, andrew, just just mooks. However, you say his name yeah, he's always pretty fun at first I'm like I don't know if I like you, like you look like you're 20, and then I'm like you're pretty, you, you, you nail every senior in pretty well.
Speaker 1:So yeah, they're pretty good and so, um, but yeah, like I been ben Foster's a good pick Because he did have a small teen run there he did, he tried to be the teen kid and then he said you know what I'm going to go do?
Speaker 2:weird stuff.
Speaker 1:I'm just going to be awful, I'm just going to be incredible at acting Well that's it, that's everybody. If you listened to this episode, we hope that you listen like just got had a good time listening to us reminisce about how hard it was being a teenager in 2000 we're just teenage dirtbags. We really are oh, my gosh nick, we didn't even have, we didn't even have like set music man it was all over the place it was I.
Speaker 1:I actually found a page that will give you what the trl thing was that day. Yeah, like you know, like, oh, this day in 1999, here's the top 10, and you're just like oh, this day in 1999. Here's the top 10. And you're just like what, Dude, this is all over the place. This is just Google it right now.
Speaker 2:I want to know what TRL, the final TRL of the 90s.
Speaker 1:Just say TRL 1999. Okay, okay, yeah, just listen to this man, christina Aguilera. Genie in a bottle Banger Kid Rock. Genie in a bottle banger kid rock ball. With the ball we've already swung the pendulum from one into the other, and that's just from 10 to 9, back when he was cool, ricky martin's living la vida loca.
Speaker 2:We just swung back the other way. There was a whole latin influence going on biscuits, nookie.
Speaker 1:Go back the other way, listen, keep it going, keep going. What's next? 98 degrees, the hardest thing. All right, you know I'm a little proud to see 98 degrees, like squeezing the top 10 of 99, because they were not.
Speaker 2:It's the hardest thing. All right, you know I'm a little proud to see 98 Degrees. They made it Like squeeze into the top 10 of 99. Because they were not, it's the hardest thing they ever had to do. They were definitely B-grade. Swing it again, Corey. What's five?
Speaker 1:Eminem, my Name Is Swing it again. What's next? Nsync. Thinking of you, I Okay, this one's a little easier. Britney Spears, baby One More Time, but swing it again, korn.
Speaker 2:Freak on a Leash and wrap it all up.
Speaker 1:What's number one, corey, though I disagree, Backstreet Boys, I want it that way.
Speaker 2:What a wild time to be alive, Dude.
Speaker 1:That's the top 10 songs in 1999. And it's just everywhere it's insanity. It's just boy bands or new metal or ricky martin, listen, we had a diverse culture.
Speaker 2:We were well represented, all right you got.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, eminem is in the fag ward every two seconds and ricky martin, just trying to live.
Speaker 2:It is interesting that we don't have any like like eminem's, the only rap representative yeah like we hadn't I guess hip-hop and rap hadn't come to the to, uh, the forefront at this point, like we had Tupac and Biggie and P Diddy at the time before he diddied himself and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:I'm not up enough on hip-hop but I wonder if Eminem just kind of led the renaissance of it coming back.
Speaker 2:Like made it kind of cool for a general audience, but that you also have like.
Speaker 1:I mean, like Limp Bizkit is rock rap, yeah, and so is Kid kid rock and it brought it okay.
Speaker 2:So nelly's ride with me was 2000, okay. So I was trying to remember when nelly came in, because that was a nelly kick-started a lot of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nelly, and ludicrous.
Speaker 2:You know like those rappers brought it like mainstream pop yeah you know. So I don't, I don't know. Maybe, maybe that was that's weird. I wonder what I'll have. We'll have to do some research let's do a hip-hop episode, Corey.
Speaker 1:Oh dude. Actually I want to do a new segment before we quit.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, but I shut my laptop. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'll turn right back on New thing, because you brought up the ChatGPT. Okay.
Speaker 1:So I asked Chat, oh God, I just said, hey, let's see who does it. I just wanted to know, because now we can do this For Farkas. They gave me top threes.
Speaker 2:And they sucked.
Speaker 1:Shane West, I mean he'd be a dick.
Speaker 2:I guess he's kind of a dick at the beginning of the movie.
Speaker 1:But then his girlfriend gets cancer and then he turns into a good guy. That's true. Chad Michaelray's a good one, I think, yeah he's just too pretty.
Speaker 2:And then, like my, james van beek was playing off the fact that he was pretty and yeah um, cj um. Also, I think seth green was the only decent pick so they basically just said let's just repeat, can't hardly wait, yeah, pretty much um, because the other one was jason siegel um and I did ask them to cast this in 1999 okay, okay and so this is what they for for Ash.
Speaker 1:They spit out Christina Ricci, katie Holmes and Mina Savari.
Speaker 2:Two of the three are okay yeah.
Speaker 1:Soccer Chris, they gave James Van Der Beek. Oh my gosh, freddie Prinze Jr. It's just only Freddie Prinze Jr can be a bad guy. And then Devin Sawa, which is actually pretty good, devin Sawa's pretty good. Listen, they're not thinking very hard, it's just ChatGPT, man, I don't know what to tell you. It gave me three directors Kevin Williamson of Scream, Okay. Robert Rodriguez of the Faculty. That could be fun. That would have been the right choice. Or Spike Jonze.
Speaker 2:That would have made it weird.
Speaker 1:But the top ones were they did say, for a Fred Derst equivalent. Marilyn Manson would have been their best choice. Okay, have been their best choice. Okay, um, they probably would have asked him if he had a p or if he, like, had his penis removed. Yeah, they would have some weird questions do you? Really have boobs. Yeah, uh, garrett was ben affleck, which I actually think's really good in 99. Okay, laura, rachel lee cook is that who you picked?
Speaker 2:yeah, that's who I picked. Oh dang, I mean, I mean she was the girl.
Speaker 1:All right, all right danny, they actually also threw seth at me.
Speaker 2:Okay, don't love it no.
Speaker 1:And then Eli, they did Joseph Gordon-Levitt.
Speaker 2:Okay, so they kind of just which is fine, it's fine, it's safe. They did a safe casting.
Speaker 1:But I'm going to keep that segment going on the show just because I think ChatGPT sucks at this.
Speaker 2:I think you're right.
Speaker 1:lots of time thinking about this.
Speaker 2:I spent dozens of minutes casting this, but on the main shows where we're casting this, you do spend some time, alright well, I think that wraps it up, corey. I think we're Y2K'd out.
Speaker 1:I am I'm absolutely Y2K'd out.
Speaker 2:We can return to the future, where things are great.
Speaker 1:Things are really going well. Oh man, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2:Maybe we needed y2k to happen might, might have needed that nick.
Speaker 1:We had a actual pandemic and it didn't fix anything it just made things worse.
Speaker 2:It did made it worse I'm trying to think who they would have blamed the robot uprising on uh, be sure to subscribe, hit the like button, follow, subscribe, share with your friends, follow us on instagram and everything. We're still there, we promise, and we're hanging out. We'll have some more stuff coming up soon. We got some stuff with Cass coming up if she decides to come hang out with us. And yeah, we're ready to rock and roll a little more.
Speaker 1:Woo Say goodnight Nick.
Speaker 2:Goodnight Nick.